probably the sp-101 with spurless hammer for easier drawing, but if you want to use single action then the regular sp-101
Nicholas Green
I want to buy a Model 10 snubbie for cc. I have a Glock that I hate and I dont feel at all inadequately armed with 6 shots over 10. I hate to fall back on fuddlore but if you arent behind cover in a firefight exceeding 6 shots, you're dead anyway.
Lucas King
I really enjoy my SP-101 4.2 inch barrel. It conceals well and isn't too wide. I carry it with .357 loaded, though there's no reason you couldn't do some hot loaded .38s either. It shoots .357 quite well and isn't too uncomfortable to shoot, though .38 is comfy as fuck to shoot.
Hunter Jenkins
Ruger offers a 3" SP101, which is what I'd get if I wanted to CC a .357 and not just .38+P. Not only can a Ruger handle a steady diet of .357, but the 3" barrel gives you just enough real estate to get that extra velocity.
Colton Bell
where do you carry a 4.2" revolver? IWB? Even three inch seems a little big for CC
Jordan Thomas
IWB at about 4-5 o'clock.
Joseph Murphy
You need at least 3 inches for it to make sense to use .357 over .38 special, IMO.
4" 686 + or GP100 +. If you're a poorfag then maybe a used security six. >inb4 why no 2.25" *insert model here* If im going to bother IWB carrying a fucking .357 revolver in 2019 im going to get as much as i can out of the round while still carrying it comfortably. Otherwise go with .38, 9mm, or .327 if you're a real snowflake.
Kayden Jackson
no you dont fuck you this isnt that thread. fuck off
Jeremiah Ward
See I mean its ONE INCH. Plus the grip will be a bigger deal then the barrel to conceal.
My nigga that's the same position I carry. Way more comfortable than 3 o'clock.
Wyatt Watson
Just because you are too pussy for 357 doesn't make it stupid.
Gavin Butler
Yeah, its perfect for the shorter grip on the SP101, since it nestles well into the small of my back, but not quite on the spine. Its pretty comfortable walking around, though it can get uncomfortable while sitting.
Jackson Martinez
>pre lock das a purty gun user
Justin Davis
>Also 357 snubs are fucking stupid
I agree with the exception of the SP101 due to the weight. I don't like the S&W airweights in .357 or the ruger LCR though.
Justin Roberts
Isn't the issue more about barrel length for the round instead of weight/recoil? Not being smarmy, I don't own any wheel guns so I don't actually know.
Isaac Ross
SP-101 in a 1-3" barrel is great, but it's a little hard to conceal with extended grips. I personally really like the Chiappa Rhino, especially now that the 30DS is a thing. The good o'l J frame is also a solid option that's well proven, despite S&W's decline in quality recently. There is no such thing as "da best eva", it's about what you can use optimally. Just pick from those options what you like
.357 still has higher energy than any .38 out of a snub nose but in many people's opinion including mine shot placement is more important so recoil is an important factor. It really depends on the person. Personally f I can put a 5 shot group on a 6in plate at 15 yards I think it is reasonable enough to carry.
Christian Murphy
You could just train with 357 bro
Isaac Brown
SW model 360 pd
Load buffalo bores new 900 ft lb jhp load
Thomas Allen
I do but I will always shoot better with .38 out of a small revolver than I will .357.
That being said I meet my requirement with .357 and carry it in an sp101 but for lighter snub noses I always use .38+P
Mason King
Nah, you dont need the hammer if its going to be strictly conceal carry use.
I’d recommend an S&W stainless 60 snub, but I shot the barrel out on mine in about 300 rounds. Other than that a surprisingly comfy gun to shoot magnums through despite being pretty small.
Luke Phillips
>about 300 rounds Wow, you better have forgot two zeros.
Connor Smith
>357 still has higher energy
Energy is irrelevant except as it relates to penetration. There are 38 and 9mm loads that have no problems meeting FBI standard penetration/expansion out of snub barrels so all 357 gives you is more recoil, report and muzzle blast. People who carry small 357 revolvers are shoppers not shooters.
This. .357 Mag got its reputation back in the day because it had enough velocity to achieve consistent hollow point expansion. With modern ammo, this is no longer unique to it.
like 110, but i think you can find 90g soft points.
Lincoln Rodriguez
For 357 125 grain Is best against people
Dylan Morales
Also liberty makes 50 grain 357
Chase Roberts
Is it legal to make AP .357 mag ammo?
Landon Reyes
No, but I shot .357 Underwood extreme hunters at a 3a panel and they btfo'd it
This panel later managed to stop a 12 gauge brenneke slug with no problem. It could eat 666 grains of lead at 1600 fps, but it was no match for a slimmer solid copper round moving a bit faster. The Lehigh extreme series of bullets seem to cut through kevlar especially well due to their sharp geometry.
So, you got options for soft armor. For plates your fucked though unless you wanna handload some hardened steel / tungsten ammo.
The best concealed carry .357 on the market is probably either the six shot S&W Performance Center 19 Carry Comp (top) or the seven shot Performance Center 586 L-Comp (bottom) depending on if you want to carry a bit larger gun for that extra round. I personally carry a 4 inch 686 Plus with seven shots when I'm not pocket carrying and the weight doesn't really bother me because I carry in a shoulder holster. The 686+ is basically the same gun as the 586 L-Comp I was talking about except it's stainless with an extra inch of barrel, has target sights instead of night sights, isn't compensated, and doesn't have the performance center tuning. I'm sure the 586 L-Comp is better but I haven't shot it.
>The best concealed carry .357 on the market >has a cuck lock
LOLNO
Isaac Lewis
Nope. Actually barely over 300 (three hundred) rounds. I’ve got one last thing to try before I ship it off to S&W, but I’d be wary about the new stuff.
Zachary Hughes
357 is pretty much a stupid choice for CCW in any format. In small guns for pocket carry it sucks to shoot and can BTFO your ears without earpro and if you're gonna move up to belt carry you're gimping yourself on capacity for no real gain in statistical likelihood of incapacitation.
Outside of hunting 4 legged game 357 is practically irrelevant these days.
Hudson Jones
My mom carried a .357 when she was young and single, back in the 80s. A sweet little snub nose S&W, nickel-plated, seeeexy little handgun.
The fact that is a 6shooter makes it stand out, although I'm pretty sure Colt's are also 6 shooters -- more expensive these days though from what I saw.
>like revolvers >go into every revolver thread >always see based model 10 autist posting his collection of cheap guns as if it's the only game in town >always see Fitz special guy bragging about his Fitz special >whenever someone mentions .357 snubs in any way some guy is always a nigger about it
This thread is making it look like these three distinct guys are actually all the same guy. Great, you like .38 special, that's fine. For someone that shoves what he likes into every single revolver thread you would think you could hold back from being such a piece of shit when someone likes something ever so slightly different.
Michael Rogers
I don't get the advantages of a 38 only gun. I don't really feel like reading through this whole thread to find out what peoples opinions are on this subject, because they are wrong.
Owen Hernandez
>hold back from being such a piece of shit when someone likes something ever so slightly different.
Usually the only advantage is they are less expensive and in some cases lighter than the 357 counterpart due to the 38 being aluminum while the 357 is steel.
Robert Bennett
What is the average weight of a 38 snub? My K6 is like, 23.5 ounces, a heavy gun as far as its class goes -- and yet I never ever notice it.
I mean don't get me wrong, it wouldn't be my first pick for a pocket gun or a purse gun though.
I would also prefer the more robust construction that the 357 requires.
Levi King
S&W 442/642 is just shy of 15oz.
>I would also prefer the more robust construction that the 357 requires.
I get that newfags and poorfags worry about durability but you'll find that if you ever move beyond poorfaggotry and really start to get some high round counts you're not going to think like that. By the time you have worn out a modern gun of decent quality you will have gotten your money's worth.
Elijah Cox
YEAH IM GONNA NEED MY GUNS TO LAST THE REVOLUTION, THANKS
Charles Richardson
I do better with my 357 than you do with 38 lol
Cooper Gonzalez
Define "do better".
Cooper Robinson
and yet new .357 snubs are constantly made these days because boomers just got to have "dat versatility"
Kevin Richardson
Since this seems to be the carry version of wheely gat general, can you CC a 4" .357 at an athletic build 5,8" (shorty) and 150lbs?
I'm trying to use a .357 for a do-all gun: HD, targets, shoothouses, CCW, maybe even press ganged into short range hunting.
Benjamin Brown
The only excuse I will accept for buying a 357 snub is larping SHTF fantasies of being down to your last rounds of ammo in the wasteland and finding a few 357 magnum rounds means you get to live another day. All the other shit people get told(and tell themselves) about why a 357 snub is a good idea is retarded marketing for brainlets.
Luis Cox
If you commit to a year round cover garment it's easy peasy. With the right grips, wide enough shoulders(thin enough waist) and high waisted pants you could probably AIWB under a loose-fitting button up shirt in the summer.
Jaxon Sullivan
So, I'm a 15.5" neck, 38S suitjacket, 30-31" waist (depends on the manufacturer).
I mostly work in white-collar work so I"m either in a suit or I can get away with a vest/waistcoat a lot.
I was thinking about getting a couple of different types and then taking them to a CCW-friendly tailor in the city.
I was considering cross-draw too, but, not with a 4" barrel.
Dominic Adams
If you have the cash to custom tailor all your shit you can afford more than one gun. Is this a LARP or what?
Brody Moore
>muh lock
Jaxon Perez
no, I just want to have one gun for as many purposes so I actually use it. I mean, I have one shotty - for everything from HD to skeet to burds.
One rifle, One pistol - makes sure I actually use them and get gud instead of using range guns at the range and carrying something different.
Joseph Ramirez
The right tool for the right job is a thing for a reason but if minimalism cranks your tractor and you're prepared to suffer daily for it then have at it.
Hudson Lee
it's less minimalism and more reduced logistics. Also, it helps the old lady feel better seeing me like use something instead of just buying and collecting and never using.
Okay, yeah, so I guess we are minimalists.
Suffer how, because they're heavy?
Zachary Perez
340SC
Christopher Richardson
>it helps the old lady feel
I spotted your problem. Man up faggot.
Jack Brown
Love mine, but I also went with Crimson Trace grips as my vision is not great. Practice with .38, load with 357. Also have two speed loaders.
Liam Adams
yeah, I"m going to pick my battles here. I can own whatever guns I want, and as much ammo as I want, and it prevents my house from being overrun with kitschy girly garbage. I'll let sleeping dogs lie.
Brayden Hall
>not sacrificing his marriage for his guns
Why are you even here?
Joseph Fisher
because I can get both without having to rely on traps?
Daniel Wood
IDK why, but this makes me hard for some reason. I want to get a pre-lock M60 .357, but they're hard AF to find. Tons of the .38s though and apparently they're built to near Security-Six load handling.
I dare you to shoot 100 full power 357 rounds out of a 340SC your pic made me lol though
Angel Baker
Is that reviewbrah?
Matthew Nelson
I'd suggest the SP101 as well. It's just so much larger and heavier than smaller carry revolvers to be comfortably shootable and have a good grip but still small enough to easily conceal.
Aaron Young
good little gun. I had a gunsmith fix the shitty ruger trigger and it's a wonderful piece now
Christian Nelson
>doesnt seem like there are too many options in the CONCEALED carry market
That's because it's a super niche product. compact 9mms rule the belt carry CCW world because they are better in every way that matters for CCW.
Nathan Diaz
Snub nosed S&W were the pistol of choice for Detectives for years (50). Most were minimally used. Best buy on the market in my opinion. Or buy a ruger and pay someone to make almost as good as a S&W.
Hudson Barnes
S&W M&P 360
Juan Harris
Not him but I've shot over 100 125 grain soft point 357 magnu. out of my 605 in one range trip. Most of that was one handed too. It's strange to me how many retards shill for 10mm on this board but act like 357 is a wristbreaker round. My Glock 23 is more uncomfortable to shoot than my taurus snub.
Jordan King
It's not that it's a wristbreaker it's that the heavier recoil means slower follow up shots and god help your ears if you ever have to touch one of those flashbangs off indoors without ear pro. And all these drawback come with no appreciable upside or 38+P and 9mm which offer perfectly adequate performance with less recoil, report and muzzle blast.
Jason Hall
Velocity and hardness yeah.
Robert Moore
40 sw recoil is worse then 10mm recoil
Chase Johnson
Ruger LCR in 357 I think
Brayden Nguyen
But 357 is better. It can penetrate 32 inches of gel with a 2 inch barrel
Jack Perez
Can it get out these stubborn tobacco stains on my dentures?