Would a "warrior-culture" style of training regime be useful or better working for creating soldiers in the modern age?
By warrior-culture I mean the whole "raised from birth to fight" aspect you see in Spartans, Samurai, etc.
Would that be effective training for creating better fighter pilots or tank crewmen?
What a stupid thread. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No. We don't poke each other with sharp objects anymore. The nation with stronger economy and better technology wins; which an education based culture is far more conducive to. When we are talking about rifles, jets, tanks, intercontinental missiles, etc someone trained as a young adult is more than enough. You can be as tough as you want but if you get shot you die. Modern small unit warfare is based on maneuver, coordination, and accurate fire, which I don't see a warrior culture being necessary to train into recruits.
Probably but public and international backlash would make it not worth it.
For creating soldiers? No.
For creating men to lead soldiers? Yes
It’s been clearly proven that a peasant army with proper training and under proper leadership will btfo any army of just said warriors.
No because the nature of modern war would mean every single WARRIOR TRAINED (TM) Casualty is a hard to replace guy.
What a stupid post. You should be ashamed of yourself.
This. Somebody would bitch about it.
>By warrior-culture I mean the whole "raised from birth to fight" aspect you see in Spartans, Samurai, etc.
Not possible in the world of today. People are too lazy, irresponsible, addicted to Fortnite/social-media/cape-shit, virtue-signalling, and complete disregard of traditional culture.
>Would a "warrior-culture" style of training regime be useful or better working for creating soldiers in the modern age?
No. It wouldn't change a thing.
>people today could never be WARRIORS
>except for me obviously
Reminder that one of the most elite military forces in the ancient world was the Sacred Band of Thebes, formed of 150 homosexual couples.
They had numerous triumphs, perhaps most notably being one of the only forces to defeat the Spartans with equivalent numbers.
It took Alexander to conquer Thebes, where the Sacred Band fought and died to the last man. Alexander was so impressed he declared any that would tarnish their memory should be put to death.
>traditional culture
>we wuz stronk woryurs an' sheeit
It seems like everyone who buys into these memes are all walking examples of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Dude, Spartans were gay as fuck. What's your point?
I'm going to play the devil's advocate and say yes for special warfare/ unconventional troops. Raiders, spooks and assassins trained from birth to do one job could be very useful, all be it unethical. As others have already said, this would be useless for a conventional military in the modern era.
t. triggered faggots.
Either of those dudes could kick your ass if you talked shit in person, but you're too much of a bitch to.
Samurai were a bunch of cunts so where the knights. The knights did not follow the chivelry or the knights honour nor did the samurai follow the bahido. Warrior class is myth most were shit heads who did bad things
That's not all they'd do to your ass.
>I watched 300 that one time so I know all about Spartans, bro.
>T-They weren't faggots. You're a faggot.
Most gay guys work out they will beat you up then fuck you dude
>all be it
It's albeit, user.
Troll posts like this are a diamond dozen. Don't listen to this guy.
I doubt any of these could beat me up. in any case, that's kinda irrelevant.
ps: are you boys tops or bottoms?
So is there any point in trying to distill war down to a science like the MIC does, or should we all just get trained then wing it?
Not him, but
>implying 300 wasn't gay porn
Cradle-to-Grave warrior culture has proven itself a paper tiger time and time again and is fucking worthless, liable to engender itself towards dim-witted reactionary traditionalism and the inability to adapt to modern times. The Japanese in WW2 had a warrior culture style of training for their pilots. Made great pilots. Really amazing pilots. While the US would make 100 acceptable pilots in the same time, and not hobble them with the myopic faggotry of warrior-culture ethoses. Alexander's men were trained from rustic farmers. Rome's great legions were trained from rustic farmers or those who were once farmers. Swiss Pikes didn't come from an edgy anime warrior-culture upbringing. You want great soldiers you generally get them from country folk (I am not country folk), Vegetius back in the 5th century recognized this. You don't need some sanctimonious warrior-culture faggotry.
You're one of them.
Having a citizen army works better partially because you are convincing your soldiers that they are personally invested; that they are fighting for what they hold dear. That idea that losing the war means their loved ones and homes being erased will make them follow you into the deepest levels of Hell.
Meanwhile, a "professional" army will be full of glory-hogs, adrenaline junkies, and de facto mercenaries who only care about their paycheck. Or in the case of modern times, those looking for gibs.
A strong economy is far more important than individually skilled soldiers these days.
Raising children from birth to become soldiers just means you won't have enough machinists and scientists.
But equally important is strong political will and national morale.
Look at any war lost by a developed nation in the last 50y - they pretty much all come down to the losers lacking the fortitude to handle a few deaths of their own or the ruthlessness to strike at the enemies with truly overwhelming force - just look at Vietnam.
A ''warrior-culture'' that managed to combine the skills and social structure for strong economic growth with a willingness to suffer at the home front (and inflict real suffering on their opponents) in the name of victory is what you want.
The next question you have to ask is whether such a modern 'warrior-culture' is counterproductive to economic growth - would the necessarily collectivist attitude stifle innovation or the like? Impossible to say for sure but I think it's possible.
t. zoomers
>Spartans
Defeated by Athens
>Samurai
Defeated by Korean archers and Chinese cavalry (Chinese logistics honestly)
>thinks modern combat is just pushing buttons
don't forget your pampers
You need to go ahead and retake middle school history.
Pulling a trigger is essentially the same as pushing a button. Obviously there is skill required to do so accurately but that skill doesn't require muh lifetime training.
Wats a top or a bottom? Is that a gay thing if so how do to know about such things ?
Fostering a culture of strength, marksmanship, and tactics through sport and game is probably better than conscripting from birth
A little horticulture never hurt either
No. Too expensive. If it takes 18 years to replace losses, every opponent will simply do attritional warfare. You lose.
It’s a doggy dog world
>Spartans
Essentially nobility class supported by serfs. See: >Samurai
Nobility class supported by serfs. See: Everyone should have some basic familiarization with fighting methods and tools (Hi 2nd amendment.) but trying to devote your entire populace for war requires support from slaves or significant automation, which brings questions on how efficient your military actually is when shit gets real.
Want better pilots and tank crewmembers? Give the average shmuck a reason to use their leisure time trying. Get video games and simulators out there and host tournaments for money, PR the fuck out of it until it is trendy, tax breaks, whatever. Make government ranges accessible to the public for shooting competition with benefits to not just winning but showing up with the right gear. If you could write off a portion of your taxes to gearing and doing this, people fucking would.
They would be fucking useless, more so than our current military, basically niggers.
>cannot read or write
>cannot handle their money
>cannot resolve issues without violence
>predatory jews are going to build entire industries around tricking them out of their money
>tax sinks
>no job prospects
>terrible health by their middle age
Just take some mountain people and make sure they don't get addicted to heroin.
Having an army of conscripts also means you have people who aren't qualified to be there and don't want to be there being forced to do things they don't want to do. Theres a reason conscript forces the world over are shit
>By warrior-culture I mean the whole "raised from birth to fight" aspect you see in Spartans, Samurai, etc.
You know those fucking failed, you know, at the time.