SWISS GUN BAN

Does any swiss user know if the ban is about :

1) semi-auto guns (= guns CAPABLE of using "high capacity" mags are banned).

2) or about mags (=guns EQUIPPED with "high capacity" mags are banned) like in Canada ? Meaning that we could be able to buy semi-autos like before but only with 10rds mags and that it would be illegal to put a 30 rds in it without doing the right paperwork.

And what about mags ? I know that "high capacity" mags will not be registered and declared but to buy one we'll have to prove that we can own one... Does this also apply to the guns we already have ? Will I be able to buy 30 rds mags for my AK or my SG550 that I bought before the implementation of the new law (since the guns bought before aren't supposed to be affected by the new law) ?

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telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/1356047/Euro-federalists-financed-by-US-spy-chiefs.html
telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/27/the-european-union-always-was-a-cia-project-as-brexiteers-discov/
politico.eu/article/europe-dependence-on-the-us-was-all-part-of-the-plan-donald-trump-nato/
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I thought they literally gave you a salt rifle in swiss land??

Only to males doing their military service can keep their rifles/pistols (depending on the job and rank). Women that volunteer can also do that.

So if you don't serve in the army no free SG550 or P220 or Glock17 for you.

Litteraly zero mass chimpings in switzerland over the past decade unlike my country yet they feel the need for a standard capacity mag ban. wtf? That makes me want to stock up on more mags myself and I don't even live there.

You are allowed to buy it after your conscription is over. The purchase amount is the cost for the government to convert the rifle over to semi auto only, henceforth why it is called a Privat Einzelfeuer 90 (Private Singlefire 90) after.

Seriously how are they justifying it

EU legal bullshit (real or imagined) as always. Thankfully the EU will soon be over, as soon as the Brits leave the EU as we know it becomes unfinanceable. Post Brexit, the EU either maintains it's budget which means that Germany France and other net giver countries will have to pay a lot more to come up for the now missing UK, or the EU reduces it's budget which means the net taker countries will see their gibs reduced a lot. Either way hostility to the EU will only grow from this point on. Now if only the Brits could finally leave, that would really be amazing and help everyone.

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WHY THE FUCK DOESNT CROATIA TAKE MORE MONEY TO FIX THIS SHIT FUC FUCK FUCK

>France opens up borders since the 1950's and lets shitskins and mudslims come in by millions

>"You are french now Muhammed hon hon hon"

>In the same time France and Germany build an undemocratic and tyrannical 4th Reich named the EU.

>60 years laters Muhammad starts chimping out blowing some bombs and shooting some parisian leftist faggots with an illegal Zastava M70 coming right from Former Yugoslavia because nobody gives a fuck about the EU border although they are supposed to be guarded.

>The EU use these attacks as reason to implement the massive gun ban for law-abiding citizens that they have been preparing for years

>Since the EU wants to ban all legal guns all over the european continent the Schengen Agreement is used to implement the gun ban.

>Switzerland signed the Schengen Agreement with the EU because Shekels

>The EU tells to Switzerland to turn in its guns or to be starved to death

>Swiss leftist faggots and capitalist jewish traitors are afraid to not be able to go to Berlin to do cocain and ecstasy without a visa or to lose some shekels. Some other degenerates just hate guns and use whatever way they have to ban them.


How Switzerland lost its guns rights in 2019 the story

So it’s already a done deal? Damn

Retarded leftism and socialism is ruining the EU

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Not totally yet. The people will vote in 2 weeks to say if they accept the gun ban or not.

But polls show that like 57% of the population is in favor the gun ban. So we are fucked.

>In the same time France and Germany build an undemocratic and tyrannical 4th Reich named the EU.
That's not true though. The EU was made by the USA.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Committee_on_United_Europe
www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/pais/people/aldrich/publications/oss_cia_united_europe_eec_eu.pdf
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/1356047/Euro-federalists-financed-by-US-spy-chiefs.html
telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/27/the-european-union-always-was-a-cia-project-as-brexiteers-discov/

>is ruining the EU

You can't ruin what is already fucking shit.

The EU is not inherently a bad idea.
What they have done with it definitely is.

>That's not true though. The EU was made by the USA.

That's a detail. The point is that France and Germany are the two european entities pushing for more and more EU since the 1950's.

If not for these two degenerated and disgusting countries there would be no more EU now.

Fun fact: the EU was literally MADE to be shit. You should some of paragraphs in the TFEU and the like.

It's a system which doesn't function BY DESIGN.

There is a big difference between the idea and what the EU is since the beginning as said by

I'll look into it, but can you provide examples?

>The point is that France and Germany are the two european entities pushing for more and more EU since the 1950's
That's not true either.

Who was pushing for Eastern Europe to join the EU (and NATO)?
Who was and still is pushing for Turkey to join the EU?
Who was and still is pushing for Caucasus countries like Georgia to join the EU (and NATO)?

Not France and Germany, sorry. They went along with when they should have blocked it, that's true of course.

And it's absolutely no coincidence that EU countries are expected to joint NATO and vice versa. Given that the EU and NATO are two sides of the exact same medal, civilian and military.

Another good article, politico.eu/article/europe-dependence-on-the-us-was-all-part-of-the-plan-donald-trump-nato/

Give me a minute or two.

The initial idea was good - free trade and just one tax (instead of being taxed twice or more) across all Europe. That is why people voted yes.
However having bullshit laws made by people that were not voted into office - this is why Bongs wanted out.

Article 48 of the TFEU (for non Europeans: TFEU is the treaty on the functioning of the EU, the EU's constituion if you will).

>6. The European Council may adopt a decision amending all or part of the provisions of Part Three of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. The European Council shall act by unanimity after consulting the European Parliament and the Commission, and the European Central Bank in the case of institutional changes in the monetary area. That decision shall not enter into force until it is approved by the Member States in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements.

Part Three of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union is "Union policies and internal actions"

What this means is that a change in the way the EU functions can only be legally passed if ALL MEMBER STATES AGREE TO IT.

How many member states does the EU have? 28.
How many of these 28 member states are in agreement with each other unanimously? Absolutely never.

This means two things:

1. it means that whatever project of reform of the EU is bound to fail as you will ALWAYS have at least one state which disagrees and therefore cancels those reform plans.

2. it means that powerful EU countries can be cockblocked by weaker ones, resulting in stasis.

Every article of the TFEU is full of kikery like that. The EU is literally non-functional BY FUCKING DESIGN.

Another good one, Article 63 of the TFEU aka why is my rich EU country losing it's jobs to poor EU countries? Why can't we have full employment anymore?

>1. Within the framework of the provisions set out in this Chapter, all restrictions on the movement of capital between Member States and between Member States and third countries shall be prohibited.
>2. Within the framework of the provisions set out in this Chapter, all restrictions on payments between Member States and between Member States and third countries shall be prohibited.

That's so fucked man, I'm sorry for you

Oh man, that's absolutely retarded. Thank you for taking the time to explain.

Europeans have been brainwashed - we've been told that the EU represents certain ideals and an optimistic end; thus critizicing the EU's means and actions can only mean you're against the end.

Article 29 and 32 of the TFEU aka why are my local workers or producers all of a sudden in competition with those of third world countries and their much lower costs?

>Products coming from a third country shall be considered to be in free circulation in a Member State if the import formalities have been complied with and any customs duties or charges having equivalent effect which are payable have been levied in that Member State, and if they have not benefited from a total or partial drawback of such duties or charges.
>In carrying out the tasks entrusted to it under this Chapter the Commission shall be guided by: (a) the need to promote trade between Member States and third countries;

Btw guess who the invented the Euro? Was it France? Was it Germany? Italy maybe? San Marino? Liechtenstein? Andorra?

Nope, it was a Canadian dude named Robert Mundell. Wow, who would have thought?

theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jun/26/robert-mundell-evil-genius-euro

>Thank you for taking the time to explain.
You're welcome. I'd do even many more articles but I won't as I unironically do not want to have a bursted aneurysm or something of that nature.

As you can imagine, my blood is boiling.

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How can people not make the connection between Maduro's leftist government banning guns and within 4 years banning opposition party candidates, righing elections, removing free speech,and running over unarmed protesters?
Over and over we see they first ban guns, and then take away free speech and rig elections.
If they even try this shit in the states I'll not comply, and Ill be joining a militia.

The US cannot force the EU on anyone. Europeans did this, if the US helped its no different than blaming Europe for that demon George Soros in the US.

Europeans literally voted for this shit, in particular Switzerland who has direct democracy.
Blame yourselves.

Spare me

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>The US cannot force the EU on anyone.
Except they did. It's all laid out in the links.

I'm not even mad at you guys since I generally distinguish between people and elites but yeah.

Europeans voted for what? For Eastern Europe to join the EU? For Turkey to join the EU? For muslim shitholes like Bosnia and Albania to join the EU?

Really? When was that? Never.

The reality is that the few times Europeans COULD vote (like in 2005), Europeans voted AGAINST what the EU was proposing.

>57% of the population is in favor the gun ban
Jesus christ.
I mean most of the ethnic Swiss males have served, so why is the rate so high?
Are you giving voting rights to EU immigrants who moved to Switzerland, and "refugees"?

The plan for the EU was laid out in Codenhove- Kalergi's *Pan-Europa* and *Praktischer Idealismus*.

It was always going to end up this way - that said when it was JUST an economic/trading body (EEC) prior to the Mastricht treaty it wasn't too bad/arguably beneficial, but the end of the Cold War accelerated the Kalergi timetable.

>The EU was made by the USA.

The ideas behind the EU predate the USA's involvement in European politics, (for example Kalergi in the 1920's) that said:

A: NATO WAS made by the US and greatly expedited/aided the formation of the EU, esp. after the Cold War, making it easier for Mastricht.

B: The same elite/ruling class involved with the Kalergi/EU plan gained power in the USA during late cold war era.

My swiss friends, do not despair. Go vote, go talk to your family, neighbors and friends, and most importantly, don't give in to leftie shitpostings.

The polls show nothing, they're only publicized in the most left wing newspapers there is, they're skewed as fuck and always have been.

hey wow what?
im from spain is this gonna affect me?
no more magazines? what the hell?

Bump

>"Your" women
>bake my cake bigot
this is gold

>m from spain is this gonna affect me?
Fuck damned, youre dumb. Like a real mongrel. Do you have ANY idea how the EU works and what role Switzerland does play within it?
Go fuck your aunt or drink Sangria or whatever you spanish losers do in your spare time

Und alle Schweizer so

>MiMiMiMimimimimimimimimimimiiiii

Haha, fuck you, Bergjuden!!!

Rude nogunz
I have literally not heard of any of this, no one has talked about magazine bans here, you still see shops selling 100 rnd drums

Thats exactly why they forced in May.
They cant afford to let any member leave or they lose their 'moral' stance.

>trusting polls
>ever

Enough with the mental gymnastics. It’s the Jews fault. There, argument over.

>Rude nogunz
Wanna see my collection amigo?
>I have literally not heard of any of this
Thats because you dont follow the news, Pedro.
>no one has talked about magazine bans here, you still see shops selling 100 rnd drums
Gee, I wonder why nobody in SPAIN talks about magazine bans there when we are talking about a law going or not going in effect in SWITZERLAND
Do you even know that there are several different countries on this planet? Countries which dont belong to the EU? Is this the state of spanish education system? No wonder you fucks are low on economy and vote left since Franco is gone

Pretty much.

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>Franco is gone
You HAD to say it, didn't you?

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Actually they are also banning standard magazines in Spain, because it is a EU directive, butthurt mountain nigger

I just posted that because I saw all those people ITT talking about the EU
no need to be this rude fren

You have Vox and it's top MILF now.

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>mmmmh dem legs

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Look at fucking Ortega Smith
holy shit how can a man be so based

Yeah I saw him on arte lol. He's the MILF's boyfriend isn't he?

It's a European directive, not Switzerland only.

In France for example, this directive have leaded to the ban of +10 rounds magazines on rifles. But you can still having them by being member of a licenced shooting range. Except that in France, every person who own a semi-auto rifle need to be licenced shooting range member, it's like that nothing never happened. Good way to bypass a law.

In Switzerland however, since a civilian can own a semi-auto rifle without being member or holder of anything, it's kind of different.

>Thankfully the EU will soon be over, as soon as the Brits leave the EU as we know it becomes unfinanceable
Lmao, the EU budget is something like 170 € billions. It's not like the entire thing is going to collapse because the UK is leaving
Hint: the EU could simply impose a 0.000001% tariff on all British goods exported in the EU and make that back tenfold

Imagine being this retarded. It's EU legislation, you retarded ignorant mutt. It affects Switzerland, Spain and all the EU.

Kill yourself faggot.

Euros doing gay shit and banning scury guns?

What a surprise.

That 57% is refugees, immigrants, and jews I could imagine
Switzerland is a state full of immigrants from surrounding countries

just dont comply with the law. seriously. do yoy do everything the government tells you to?

What is Poland spending all that money on?

Well they're the second fastest growing economy in the EU so whatever they're doing it's working

500 PLN per every child in your pocket.

Man sorry Swiss boys to hear about this. People losing freedom anywhere makes me kinda sad. I always love the aesthetics of the Swiss countryside and had alot of love for your country

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No, you're the faggot.
Switzerland isn't in the EU. You have to be more specific.
This is about the Schengen Agreement, which Switzerland signed to become a member of the Schengen Area for limited border controls. Basically Schengen only serves as a convenience. And for this convenience we have to give up our rights, kowtow and let the Central Committee of Brussels buttfuck us until our haemorrhoids rupture.
The fact is, our politicians are cowards at best and seditious traitors at worst. They have consistently rebuked efforts to get a proper deal with the EU. Our government's propaganda has been: "If we don't accept this law we will be kicked out of Schengen and our economy will collapse!!!"
Of course, in reality everything is renegotiable. Additionally, being part of Schengen isn't all that advantageous when you include the loss of revenue from taxed goods that cross the border without being declared, the mudscum and other shitskins who flood into our country from France or Germany on a regular basis and cause increased crime levels, etc.
Our country is cucked and our youth are Leftist hipsters just like everywhere else in the West. Our media's more biased than most. Our state broadcaster makes the BBC look reactionary by comparison. We suffer from the pathology of sheltered people who have yet to experience the full vibrancy of multiculturalism, so our population is less redpilled than other parts of Europe.
There may be some loopholes. Depending on how you interpret the limitation of 10 rounds/20 rounds for shoulder stock firearms/non-shoulder stock firearms. It may be possible to do something like you Burgers in the US: create a stock that doesn't legally qualify as a stock because it's a "brace"; if we had rifles like that, they would fall into the second category and would then legally be allowed to accept 20 round magazines. But this is still somewhat speculative on my part.

and you're going to let them tell you how to live regardless? gun laws are unjust, no matter what faggy politician is writing them.

t. Europol

No. They he PE is a rifle made from the ground up as semi auto.

they are supposed to spend it on stopping their country from being a shithole but it doesn't seem to he working. it still looks like a kip.

Pierogis

This basically.
Also, they want to maximize the sacrifice of blood during the coming collapse of the "civilized structures" in Europe.

The "social ponzi system" is being intentionally overloaded with nonproductive people that our economy and society doesn't need, and in addition they hate us as well.

What do you think Mr Enrichment and his 5 kids (that live off welfare, that never payed anything into social systems, that get their food bought by the welfare system) will do once there is no more money to keep them fed? It's not like they are grateful of respectful because our work keeps them alive in safety.

Additionally, even if the referendum is being accepted, some foreign court could just consider it "against Völkerrecht / Menschenrecht". That is because the cucks and braindead "people" voted No to the "Selbstbestimmungsinitiative" (Initiative that basically wanted to save direct democracy from foreign attacks, but was refused by "the majority" because "muh raicisssm" and emotion).
Sorry for that wall of text, but Swiss politics can be a complicated clusterfuck.

On the other hand, the LGS is booming right now, all the reasonable people of all walks of life and sexes are getting armed and stocking up.

Takehome message: Bezmenov was spot on, and they will do the same in the USA as well.

I'm glad that my grandfathers are already dead and don't have to see this, they would cry, puke and rage at the same time all the time. Female right to vote and be elected was the killing blow that made the majority submissive and naive.

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