Why are yanks so defensive whenever the Chinese military is brought up?

Why are yanks so defensive whenever the Chinese military is brought up?
Can guarantee there will be 10 posts calling me a chunk for even pointing this out

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As an American, it’s because we haven’t experienced a country even approaching us in military capabilities since the 80s, which is before most people on Jow Forums were even born. People are gonna inherently be freaked out when a rising power threatens to reach parity with the current world leader.

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Because we always enjoy a good shitting on lesser nations.

Its what said, essentially. If 4chins was around in the 80s you would see burgers saying the same things about the soviets. Its just how we shit talk potential peer rivals.

CHINA WILL GROW LARGER

because they constantly put out propaganda about amazing new scifi tech they have but they can't even build bridges properly. India world power 2020, etc.

Based C&C poster

>extra, large

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Fuck off chunk

People are annoyed because that one French spammer does the same thing every time and it gets old.

Yeah. I can’t wait for the inevitable unifying nationalist fervor that’ll form as China becomes viewed as a major threat. It’ll be like the 50s all over again, and foreign policy will become consistent with the advent of a target to counter.

>why do you shitpost on the 10 daily bait threads from those pretending to be insects?
You're one dumb chunk.

>posts specifically designed to trigger people end up triggering people

hmmm......that's a hard one, OP.

Also this. Most interesting posts about Chinese hardware becoming shit within like 10-30 replies. Reddit is unironically better when it comes to discussing shit like that.

then you should go back

The rest of reddit sucks, but at least defense subreddits moderate out blatant trolling.

I'm a yank. Dude at this point we couldn't beat Iran. The myth of American military supremacy is going to end very soon. We've got a lot of hardware but everything else is absolutely fucked.

Stop being stupid, then. If you seriously think the US military can’t beat the Iranian military, you have zero understanding of how war is fought. When it comes to conventional forces, there really isn’t a country on earth that can beat the US. China may change that in a few decades, but for now, the US has maintained global dominance for nearly 7 decades.

Chunk

Maybe you don't understand how war is fought. Remember when we did a war game in 2002 and the guy playing opfor as Iran sunk like 16 ships in one day? Then the brass got really butthurt and forced him to follow a script instead. And this was 2002. In 2019 we're even more fucked. These days we crash ships even with no combat.

dumb frogposter

stfu chunk

Why are you so insecure about American superiority?

>Remember when we did a war game in 2002 and the guy playing opfor as Iran sunk like 16 ships in one day?
Oh, you mean where Van Riper bullshitted the simulation system because he was butthurt about getting passed over for a promotion?

>Unironically using Millennium Challenge as evidence for anything but how ridiculously unrealistic war games can be

Nice cope. People thought Rome could do infinite force projection too until they lost three legions in a forest.

>actual war is more "realistic" than a shitty game
>can't win the shitty game because "unrealistic"

lmao, americans


t. Chang

It was like that in the 50s because everyone was white and Christian. Nobody will unite now

Holy crap, the other poster was right. You are stupid.

Cringe and underage

Not an argument

You know, if Iran can manage to figure out light-speed motorcycle travel and supersonic anti ship missiles that can fit on a jet ski, I’ll concede that America is screwed and that we should welcome our new Persian overlords.

Cringe and melanin rich

It’ll be fine. Democracy being better than authoritarianism is something nearly all Americans agree on. If China really does start to expand, the idea of a country that uses 1984 as a guidebook becoming a world leader will unify most of the US, and likely western liberal democracies at large.

Because this board is literally swarming with chinks and gopniks relentlessly shitting on anything American or European.

i am worried about chinese hackers
those knock off apples ii they have are serious business
once they get them to work without bricking every 5 minutes we could be in trouble

At least I'm not so retarded as to think aircraft carriers are anything other than big targets.

>once they get them to work without bricking every 5 minutes
will never happen

Do you honestly think the spics and nogs will care by then? I doubt even the white leftists would support the war

Underplaying the threat posed by China is just as ignorant as pretending they’re some sort of überpower state. They will likely reach military parity with the US before 2050, and if America can’t maintain its global system of alliances, things could get bad for them and the liberal world order as a whole.

They’ll care about as much as anyone else if the various economic advantages of the US being the world leader are threatened.

Frankly, I'd side with the chinamen over liberal democracy and so would everyone else I know.

Name one time in history that the "white and Christian" world united
Typical historically-illiterate poster

>hurr durr if you argue back ur defensive
This is SJW logic.

I won't call you a chink though, I know it's actually yuropoors pretending to be chinamen who are behind the endless spamming of these obvious bait threads.

>As an American
[X] doubt

Then you’re an idiot. Authoritarianism always leads to human tragedy. Democracy isn’t a perfect system, but if you really think life under a dictatorship is better, I don’t really know what to tell you.

Not him but uh, 1095 was pretty good

I am American, though. As someone who follows defense news, I’m not really worried that China is going to overthrow the US-led order anytime soon, but I do think they’ll eventually be just as much of a threat as the Soviets were.

Jow Forumsniggers and /leftypol/ are both the kind of retards who think they'll be in the Inner Party because they're good little believers. The reality is they'll be dead in a ditch from shooting themselves twice in the back of the head.

Your own personal Stalin exists, and he WILL stab you in the back the moment he gets the chance.

You're a bigger idiot. Democracy is the most authoritarian system there is. Trump's election proves that, the people elected an avatar and he has done absolutely nothing for them. The unelected oligarchs running democracies behind the scenes are far worse than any dictator.

>doesn't know about china age demographic problem

Good to know France/Italy/Germany is the entire white christian world

>I know nothing about MC2002 other than what I read in some news article and I would like to broadcast how retarded I am to the entire board!

>Democracy is the most authoritarian system there is.

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Explain exactly how you think it is unrealistic.

Seriously, these types of threads always seem to attract people who like the idea of regimes who’d certainly take guns away. Clearly they’re not from Jow Forums

I think it's hilarious when they start posting that chink copypasta about tiananmen and winnie pooh
a nation of autists

We build amazing bridges. If they weren't amazing, they would have collapsed already.

>Authoritarianism always leads to human tragedy.
doubt

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It's true. Do you think you have a choice? You ever notice how whenever people vote for something the elites don't like they just fix it some other way? If democracy was real gay marriage would be banned in California, instead it is forced on the entire country. Britain would no longer be a part of the EU. We'd have a big beautiful wall at the bottom of our country.

What is 2003

No democracy means no guns. Get off Jow Forums if you love gargling authoritarian cock you piece of shit.

You're not a "yank". You're a cuck.

Here's a few things wrong with the "simulation":
>Fleet was right on the beach with their CWIS turned off, something that would never happen IRL but was required due to the reality of conducing an exercise in one of the most trafficked maritime routes of the world
> Van Riper was given boghammars and Boston whalers which he used to launch silkworm missiles, something that would be impossible IRL
> Red team's "motorcycle" couriers were just programmed into the simulation software as a regular radio system, meaning he had instant and untraceable communications
Van Riper was basically "That Kid", but instead of ruining kindergarten recess he ruined a multi-million dollar field exercise with thousands of deployed personnel that wasn't even supposed to game what he was doing in the first place.

Wrong, under most monarchies of the past not only were people allowed weapons but they were obligated to keep them. These laws are what the 2nd amendment was based on. If we had them today you'd be forced to keep an AR-15 with a combat load of magazines, load bearing equipment, and an IFAK ready to go at all times.

Most democracies have banned guns. This one will too as soon as the left has brought in enough beaners.

1950s America

CWIS is easily overwhelmed with volume of the cheapest sorts of missiles and even if the comms wouldn't be instant, things like motorcycle couriers is what a country like Iran would actually use. Even if all they manage to do is force carrier to go back home limping that will be enough of a symbol to end the myth of American military hegemony.

Yep. It’d still be a bad idea to put a carrier anywhere near the Straits of Hormuz if we decide to go to war with Iran, but the whole simulation spiraled out of the realm of reality pretty quickly. It’s also worth noting that the USS Mason showed that Silkworms and (allegedly) YJ-8 export variants are completely useless against a USN DDG.

I like how you completely ignored everything I said because you got thoroughly BTFO.

imagine being this unironically retarded
also
>authoritarian monarchists are regulars on Jow Forums
fucking hell I want to go back

I think you're just upset because I'm right. We couldn't beat a country like Iran if we attacked them right now.

The necessity for an armed peasantry was only due to how wars were fought at the time, not due to any unique qualities of monarchy itself. You’re dumb.

constitutional republic
democracy isn't protecting your guns
if anything it is trying to take them in some places

>I think you're just upset because I'm right. We couldn't beat a country like Iran if we attacked them right now.
If you're so right, then why didn't you counter any of my points? Because you're retarded and can't handle getting BTFO.

Sorry that history proves you wrong.

You're dumber if you think you're going to keep your guns without an "authoritarian" to prevent you from being overrun with beaners.

Look up the USS Mason incident. 9 C-801s and not a single one got within CWIS range. It’s unknown whether missiles or jamming/decoys mitigated them, but the kind of missiles operated by Iran aren’t exactly effective against modern defenses.

But they don't, though. If they did, they would be leagues more ballsy than their current saber-rattling is. They're shit, and they know they're shit.

>Reddit is better for worshipping communists
Gee, who'da thunk?

Outdated, eh? Sounds a lot like what the left says about the 2nd amendment. You're dumber if you think you're going to keep your guns without some kind of "authoritarian" to prevent you from being overrun with squatemalans.

>Democracy being better than authoritarianism is something nearly all Americans agree on
Child pornography. You're an authoritarian, too.

I meant it has less “China numbah one”-esque shitposting than Jow Forums does. I think the relative lack of anonymity and more active moderation on defense subs keeps people a little more in line.

nice pil/pol/ retard

What? A law imposed by elected officials is significantly less authoritarian than a decree made by an unelected monarch. What’s your point?

>What’s your point?
"Democracy" is a sham used by authoritarians to decieve people into thinking that their authoritarian policies are supported by the will of the majority. The people who built this country realized that they would eventually do this, which is why they built the U.S. to be a constitutional repbulic; they knew democracy was fucked from the get-go. Democracy is authoritarianism writ large.

if elected officials said you can't have guns it is better than a monarch saying you can't have guns?

Elected officials are just shills bought by the highest bidder. They don't even really make laws anymore, every major law of the past century or so in America has been created by the kritarchy, the judges.

A constitutional republic is literally just a form of representative democracy. When people say “democracy,” they’re obviously talking about the principal of the people electing representatives, not some sort of Athenian-style direct democracy.

If that’s the case, how is a monarch who has zero accountability to his constituents any better?

Athenian style was far better than what we have right now because they didn't have universal suffrage. Only the upper class land owning men were the voters.

problem in 1776: no representation with taxation
problem in 2019: representation with no taxation

Bruh what. You've got that so fucking backwards. A monarch has way more accountability to the people than some elected retard who will be gone in four years. He's got an actual future to think about beyond "how do I make sure the ruling elites give me a sweet seven figure job when my term is up."

I mean, perfect monarch will always be better than a normal democracy. The problem with monarchies is that you have just as Many Sadam Husseins and Kim Jong Ils as you have monarchs who have the people’s best interests at heart.

Becuase the goyim know they will die for isreal in a ching chong war when the time comes.

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Better than democracy where every single leader is horrible.

>Child pornography
Are you seriously arguing that should be legal? What the fuck is wrong with you?

How would a war with China help the Israelis at all? If anything, it’d reduce US interest in the Middle East, leading to decreased security for the Israelis.

>people who are still libertarians in 2019

he is pointing out everyone is an authoritarian at some level

Bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.
— Thomas Jefferson, 1801

Constitutions are checks upon the hasty action of the majority. They are the self-imposed restraints of a whole people upon a majority of them to secure sober action and a respect for the rights of the minority.
— William Howard Taft

In questions of power, then, let no more be said of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.
— Thomas Jefferson, The Kentucky Resolutions of 1798 (16 November 1798)

[The Bill of Rights is] designed to protect individuals and minorities against the tyranny of the majority, but it’s also designed to protect the people against bureaucracy, against the government.
— Judge Lawrence Tribe

You goyim don't know shit. Gullible to the fullest. Also im sure america would lose the yellow war.
>Almost lost the cold war even after ww2 killed most of them off.
>Imagine ching chongs like the Soviet union, but without a ww2 handicap.

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