China vs U.S.A

Who would win in a war?
>My vote goes to china.

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Right now USA
In the near future China

Right now? The US, almost certainly. 20-30 years from now? China would have a fighting chance.

>china winning against anyone

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Shitposting aside, their current government has yet to win a war, or even fight one since the 80s. That’s going to be a serious handicap if things ever come to blows.

China can easily take on the US by 2030 if not 2025. They are developing their military capabilities and expanding their skills. They are starting to get to play in the sand box and get their hands dirty.

Also, China has shown their only goal is to overthrow the US and are spending every last breath they have on working towards it. The chinks have been playing the long game and the US got to complacent and comfortable as top dog against 80 IQ sandniggers. Unless America changes it's mindset towards China, and start viewing them as an actual threat that needs to be dealt with, the US will be in for a big surprise in the coming conflict.

Remember the last time they went into combat only to run away and let the un workers get blacked

Post your timestamped guns, baby dicked manlet

Unironically when was the last time China saw a large military engagement? I've been told 1989 at tiananmen.

The US is absolutely beginning to see China as a threat. Trump’s trade war is one of the few things he’s doing that is receiving some degree of bipartisan support. If the Chinese ever become the top global superpower in the coming century, the US will, at worst, maintain a position as a close second.

>If they are struggling against sand niggers what makes you think they have a chance against a billion chingchongs.

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Where would the war take place?

If it's in Taiwan or some place right next to China, China can disrupt US force projection pretty badly by blowing up air bases and naval stations in the region with medium range ballistic missiles.

If it's in the Middle East or some shit, China can't even show up to fight.

Sink-Vietnamese war. They managed to lose more men in like 4 weeks than the US lost in a year in Vietnam.

Ultimately people like this are the reason China will be a threat in the coming decades. Because arrogance and choosing ignore an adversary who has shown their only intent is to topple US influence in Asia. Its like they can't even comprehend the failing state of the US military and recent developments of the PLA. The failure to take them seriously will be America's downfall

they're so bad though. so obsessed with america and they try to flex every minute of the day but over half of their people are dirt poor and/or live in squalor and their "economy" is a self-inflated meme. china cant do shit. they're like a bigger north korea at this point.

DELET THIS

Nice guns with timestamp, r/asianmasculinity

Yes, that is a map of North America before the US dismantled the Mexican empire. Not sure what you’re trying to imply about the US military by showing an example of one of their greatest victories.

their brains default to calling anyone who isnt mindlessly sucking America's feet as chang or winnie the pooh memes. chinese people cant even browse this site ffs

Except those dirt poor hoards will be blowing themselves up at your front gates.

Russia.

I mean, the US military is pretty obviously not in a failing state, and is absolutely in a position to take on the PLA for the foreseeable future. I do agree with you that people often severely underestimate China, though. That’s likely to change if/when the Chinese start fighting wars, though.

lmao no they wont. they're too malnourished to carry any weapons.

Russia is still recovering from the cold war maybe in fiddy years.

No, he’s saying a Sino-American war would be to Russia’s benefit, which is more or less correct.

>There's already videos detailing this
youtube.com/watch?v=J3VqF2dXje0

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Yea but russia would most likely start proxy wars with the eu in that event.

Hi Nguyễn Phú Trọng
Hi Pajeet

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Everyone who has ever fought dooncoons has struggled fighting doon coons even when it's durka vs durka. We haven't even waged total war since wwii which is why we blunder our way through every conflict we've been in since then, a full scale all out war would be catastrophic for china.

Binkov has his problems, but this is more or less a believable conclusion supported by hard numbers. Should be required viewing for anyone to comment in this thread.

>I mean, the US military is pretty obviously not in a failing state
5 cent were added to your account

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Does anyone have a source on the pic in the pic?

No, but their shills can and are paid to do it.

Quite possibly. The US would be too busy to focus on Eastern Europe for the course of the war. Due to the naval nature of a Sino-US conflict, American ground troops would likely maintain the ability to secure NATO allies, though.

>Jewtube
of course usa would win its jewtube.

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>stupid poor people doing stupid shit
Militaries aren’t exactly made up of a society’s best and brightest, user. Not sure what you’re trying to imply.

As long as they didn't get involved militarily, and only sold Chinks resources & weapons.. Yeah, Russia benefits.

But if they get dragged into it through the SCO security agreements then Russia is in for a bad time.

>a war
What kind of "a war"?

China cant win a war because of its own internal politics.

China still operates much like it did during the warlord period except warlords its Party members that have still have family control over the different areas of china who each control a different portion of the military.

>chair force
>us military
All they have to do is sit in a chair and play drone strike 4 every day. You don't need navy seals for a desk job dumbfuck

>plagiarizes all of their military technology
>middle class economy is a bubble
>historically collapses every time it's under pressure
>still believes wars are fought in land conflicts
>government is totalitarian and incompetent
>manages a bunch of vassal states but can't actually keep them in line
>everyone rich or smart raised in China immediately tries to leap ship to the USA

China couldn't defeat Australia, let alone the USA.

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gullible

They won't even make it past the south china sea.

oh boy another US vs China thread! I can't wait to see the china shills and American shills go at it with the same exact bullshit as in every other thread for the past 2 fucking years

Wang your nation's history is a joke. I may have my problems but you are no threat to me.

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fpbp

give them 50 years

I could see China successfully controlling the SCS in a few decades. It’d basically guarantee that the US is given bases in every country that that borders the region, though. It’d be pretty funny if the US Navy gets Da Nang back.

at least they have a history

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China has issues with Sand People in China. They have tons of Muslims doing #JustMuslimThings and have since Islam became a religion.

They'll soon get into deep shit in Africa to. Then we'll support "moderate rebels" again. And China aill run a barely profitable operation while having RPGs fired in their general direction.

how would you call that an "engagement?" they just shot a bunch of unarmed protesters.
There have been dozens of similar, smaller incidents since then

Only winner would be Mexico, Guatemala and Honduras that have conquered all of the southern states.

This.

Hi coping nogunz manlet

a history of being raped

US. They dont have the governance to upkeep a major conflict if a blockade is formed by the U.S.

They'd force enlistment, sparking discontent with their own population and corporate income, igniting a coup.

t. pol pot

Everyone knows thats for the greater expansion of isreal.
>But in a real war case scenario where the financer elite kikes do as they wish who would win?

Why should the chinks give a shit about the Middle East
Actually why should we give a shit about the Middle East
Actually why should anyone give a shit about the middle east

I can't imagine either country, or the world for that matter, 'winning' if war were to break out between any of the western civilizations.

Im sure those financers would move to china, which is what the financial capitalist usa's "democracy" is run on.

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If China ever wants to become a global power like the US, they’ll need to be both willing and able to send troops to support their interests around the world. This would likely include deployments to the Middle East.

What I don't understand is how Chinese can be so smart, on average but still so incompetent at running their country.

>Have a neighborhood full of thousands of residents
>Bulldoze it because reasons
>Have thousands of now homeless people
>???
>"Eventually they'll go away, right Chow?"
>they never go away

The only reason the u.s does is, becuase it's financed by the 13 families. Untill then if they decide to finance china the u.s would be royaly fucked.
>Remember war is technology, economics, and numbers.

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I mean, if a society has a historical precedent of being densely-populated like China has been, they value human life a lot less.

Nobody would have to do much. The U.S. would give some African tribes a few new toys, then sit back and watch China struggle. Or watch China stomp out the insurgency, then go back to the drawing board. It wouldn't cost all that much compared to what was done in the middle east. Mainly because "nation building" wouldn't be the goal. The goal would just be to fuck with China.

On top of that, we could just smuggle weapons into China for their dissenting Muslim population. Would be funny. I'd do it, if the goal was JUST causing China some headache. Not overthrowing their government or whatever.

But that was the problem. Nobody died. They just had a ton of homeless wandering around squatting.

only if the united states brings back it's industrial might

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China exports goods, US exports war. US would be playing with home field advantage. My money is on the US.

Chinks are like bugs and think as a hive mind where as the us is divided and multicultural

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Hive mind societies have never fared well in warfare compared to liberal western ones. Diversity of ideas and the allowance of dissent in higher ranks tends to produce a more effective military than a complete autocracy.

>smuggle weapons to hadjis
fuck them. just give the weapons to people living in aluminum foil tents or christian chinese. even better flood tibet with weapons.

Diversity is not a strength libtard. Being divided during a full scale war against a nation of 1 billion people is not an advantage

>If China ever wants to become a global power like the US, they’ll need to be both willing and able to send sacrificies to support the interests of Israel around the world. This would likely include deployments to the Middle East.
That doesnt explain why

That’s why the singlularly-minded Nazis and Imperial Japanese beat the much more ideological diverse US and British.

>china isnt divided

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Yes thats why you get kidnapped by a white van in hong kong for saying something anti chinese.

That’s the point

Isreal first goyim

Based Flapjackposter

Nations from different ethnic origins forming an alliance against an invading force is way different than one mixed and racially divided nation going to war against a force without absolutr necessity. Aren't you late for your gender studies class?

No just finished by holocaust semester.

Sink-
Oh, you mean the Sino-Vietnamese war. And Damn, even in Vietnam the US held a favorable casualty ratio. China really has issues.

NEVAAAAR

Seriously, when are those communists going to realize that censorship never works in the long run.

>non-white societies have never fared as good as white ones
ftfy

The irony

Yeah, apologies for autocorrect. It’s pretty fucking embarrassing for them, especially considering this was after they started getting US technological transfer, including NVGs and counter-battery radar.

>Nazi Germany
>Non-white

>anti chinese
bro Chang is getting blackbagged for not being a bootlicker. its the commie way.

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Oh? Do go on.

>still believes wars are fought in land conflicts
Where are they fought then if not in land conflicts??

on land

Spotted the retard.

There is literally no way China can defeat the US in a war. It would take the entire world combined to stand a chance against the US and even then the US is more likely to win.

Pretty sure the US navy alone could probs beat Russia and China combined

>Full US military can't fight off a few thousand militants in the middle east over a 15 year perior
"Derp we kud totes rek chyna and rarsha"

China

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For now. If the PLAN procures Type-55s at the rate they plan to, China will become a major threat to the USN. I doubt they’ll ever surpass America militarily, but they’ll likely reach parity.

Which movie?

>China spams destroyers
>US sinks all of them with LRASM

nothing personnel kid

Fuck. I forgot they have Kung Fu. Wtf is our government doing to close the Kung Fu gap?