So if society goes to shit and the government declares martial law...

So if society goes to shit and the government declares martial law, does that mean I could legally kill someone without future legal consequences?

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Yeah.

yep, or you could enslave some qt hmong girls, or eat some midgets, or inject heroin into your balls in a public park

>government declared martial law
>suddenly this means there is now law
No, it means instead you get shot instead of arrested. Unless you're black, in which case you get shot less than normal but more accurately.

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Let me google that for you

"Martial Law"

Martial law does not equate "lack of rule of law."

If the government (governor, president, etc.) has declared martial law, then that would mean normal civilian law is temporarily suspended in place of the military taking control.

As has said, martial law could possibly involve you being summarily executed instead of being granted a trial.

Based yeah poster

>I could legally kill someone without future legal consequences?
no, it means the cops shoot you without trial

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But you can also shoot the cops and have a better chance of getting away with it.

You might aswell shoot everyone around you and hope there won't be reinforcements, even though there will.

>can i break laws nobody can enforce?
OP asks the big questions.

But they already do that, so what changes?

>Unless you're black, in which case you get shot less than normal but more accurately.
hehehehehe

You get to kill people when the chaos is at max because there won't be police to arrest you. Hell you could probably get away with it forever since war crimes are hard to keep track of unless it is massively organized

No, it means you could ILLEGALLY kill someone without LEGAL consequences. If you happen to be a sicko, you should read Selco's blog about SHTF during a siege in Bosnia. People made literally pay to rape and pay to beat public dungeons. However, all of them ultimately tortured to death after the war by survivors who did not forget their faces.

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>martial law permits murder
No it doesn't, you mouth breathing retard.

Source on the pay to x dungeons stuff?
Never heard of anything like that.

Either you get shot dead by feds or if you survive and hide the body well, then nothing happens

It was here: shtfschool.com/blog/ Unfortunately, its gone now. I'm guessing he felt he was giving up too much information for free, as he is now running survival courses IRL and has a 350 page book. Maybe it can still be found on the forums. It was a year or two worth of articles, with detailed stories of one year survival under Sarajevo siege with civil war infighting. There was no martial law, it was simply 100% lawlessness, and no food for anyone.

Here are some articles still lingering around on a different site: theorganicprepper.com/category/preppers/selco/page/5/ Not all of them, only 5 pages worth.

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I thought martial law just mean the military is now enforcing the law instead of or at least in concert with the police, with due process suspended. So basically no, it's even worse for you than before because they can just shoot you as an enemy combatant rather than having to do any paperwork. How wrong am I?

So just preppers saying it?
No news, or charity or governmental body saying it?
So bullshit, Okay.

Not preppers. A survivor of the siege, who is today a prepper, after he had to go through it as a normie.

>No news, or charity or governmental body saying it?
I don't think you understand what was going on there. Firstly, the city was surrounded by Serbian forces for a year. Anyone who moved during the day got sniped, machineguned, or mortared. Inside the city was a lethal mixture of Serbs, Croats, and Bosnians, aka Orthodox, Chatolics, Muslims. The city consumed all its food in a matter of days, and for the next year, the only food source was UN droping shit here and there, and ethnically and religiously separated armed gangs fighting over the crates. Over 6k soldiers and over 5k civilians died in there.

So someone with a vested interest in you believing the narrative.

I understand what happened, but to say that there's no massive interest in it because of the reasons you stated doesn't make any sense. Look at what happened in africa, with the genocides, people STILL heard about that stuff. To say that no one has a credible source, is dumb user

Not sure what you are suggesting. That he is scaremongering to sell more prepper seminars? Yeh, sure, its a big industry, but i think he started writing his little tidbits on forums way before he started selling anything.

There is plenty of documentation about war crimes committed in the Yugoslav wars. The media mostly focused on what authorities committed. Death camps, direct orders to execute all civilians in a village...that kind of stuff. Selco focused on small scale individual crimes, perpetrated by other civilians and small paramilitary groups and armed gangs, with no direct link to any main army. Unlike in other places, in Sarajevo civilians were free to commit crimes because they were cut off from the universe. In most other places, the army held the front, and the area behind them was fully under control by police, and life was mostly normal.

Apparently he is frequently accused of making things up by prepper forum enthusiasts. But as a person from the Balkans, i have some insight into the things that were going on, and many small time trials that took place after the wars. Individual cases that were too small to be reported by the media, who didn't really care about it after there wasn't sheer numbers of casualties to be reported, and through that, viewership to be cashed in on. And i didn't find any of his stuff far fetched. I think it comes down to westerners who are too normal to be able to imagine just how pure evil an individual can be. Their brains just refuse to accept the knowledge of just how fucked up the world can be.

Right but i don't care about your anecdotal evidence. I am asking for a reputable source where there "pay to rape" & "pay to beat" dungeons. Which you've failed to provide. I'm in no way suggesting that human beings are incapable of tremendously monstrous actions [See african genocides] But just giving descriptions and "i'm from the balkans so pls believe" isn't good enough.

Oh wait you're literally le edgy "the west is too civil to understand this things" Just post a fucking source or don't spread hyperbole.

The only ones you should go after are the politicians that sold your future to the banks and corporations

I will post some convincing similar events from other parts of the world when i get home, so i can get my links. ETA 2 hours.

No, i don't want simliar events from OTHER parts of the world.
I want a REPUTABLE SOURCE from what you [Unless you're a different user] Of what you said. Not a blog, but a fact checked source.

Many things will be delivered. So much, that you will regret even entering this thread. Sources from the balkan conflict, because there are no videos, and videos from elsewhere, because there are no sources.

>without future legal consequences
>summarily executed instead of being granted a trial.
That's present, not future, so yeahposter is basically right.

Didn't people who outright murder other people during Katrina get prosecuted following the disaster? Some thing is going to happen following any shft scenario.

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Where do you learn about Katrina as a non burger? I keep seeing it mentioned but know jack shit about what actually happened besides some stadium turning into a hellhole

There was unironic door-to-door firearm confiscation

I am back, so let us begin. First, Sarajevo.

unfpa.org/news/dealing-legacy-rape-and-torture-bosnia-and-herzegovina

>Neighbor turned against neighbor, and her world began to fall apart. Women and girls, as young as twelve, were rounded up and imprisoned in houses in the hills where they were gang-raped and tortured.
>“Every day and every night women were taken. Some never returned,” she recalls.
>The war in Bosnia and Herzegovina killed at least 100,000 people between 1992 and 1995. It also resulted in an estimated 20,000 rape survivors among all ethnic groups, and an unknown number of children conceived by violence.

Grim history of Bosnia’s 'rape hotel': youtu.be/dPgK8wfbxTY
Bosnia:Healing the Wounds of War: youtu.be/hclz6LAZSsI

This is just light stuff, shall i continue with "OTHER parts of the world"?

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martial law doesn't mean that you can kill anyone, dumbfuck

I never disputed that these things happen, i specifically asked for the source of you saying a "pay to rape" & a "pay to beat" dungeon existed.
If you still can't source it just say it man.
What you linked is just about the usage of rape as a weapon which has happened in pretty much every ethnic conflict in the last 70 years.

"other parts of the world" No, i want YOU TO SOURCE WHAT YOU FUCKING CLAIMED.

>Didn't people who outright murder other people during Katrina get prosecuted following the disaster?
they got prosecuted during the disaster.

wikipedia
most sources are extremely retarded or shtf fetishes that pretend that they were there

How'd that play out?

>I never disputed that these things happen
Yes you did and yes you are still doing it. You are denying the events unless you get a news report detailing a particular detail in an event. Why? If a sick soldiers rape 20000 women in an official camp because they wants to, and think they can get away with it, then why wouldn't a sick civilian do it too when he has the opportunity too? Its not like the soldier came from mars. He came from the general population.

>If you still can't source it just say it man.
Read the link and watch the first video in its entirety. It specifically says that this was done by gangs, and not official Serbian army. The only thing that isn't mentioned there is that outsiders could pay to take part. That claim comes from Selco. Just because that specific detail isn't mentioned, doesn't mean it didn't happen. And why does it matter anyway? If people are taken into a rape hotel, and raped 1000 times, does it change anything weather the rapists paid or not?

You are exactly what i'm describing, a person who does not believe without a video, because his brain refuses to comprehend that he is surrounded by evil, and there is nothing you can do about it, because you cant detect these psychos.

Furthermore, this happens in shithole countries where there isn't even SHTF. Example: man admits to selling 3000-4000 sex slaves to the highest bidder in 7 years, and raping and KILLING 400-500 who couldn't be beaten into submission or tried to run away. And this isn't even in SHTF, and with no ethnic hatred. And you doubt this going on during SHTF in Sarajevo? You simply chose to not believe, because its a bitter pill to swallow.

I can keep up the stories if you want, the get wore and worse, till i get banned for posting actual videos.

Forgot the actual link: youtu.be/2x91H3eFKVI

You sound like a whiny cunt

Are you mad online?

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Not the user you're arguing with: This kind of shit fills me with terror, knowing that people can get this awful when food and beer aren't plentiful. That they can take out thier rage on others that easily. I hope to God this never happens in the US. I try to be thankful every day for where I live, I don't know why I deserved to be born here but damn I'm lucky. I fear the day that necessities become scarce here and the whole circus falls apart, and people show what they are really made of. Sometimes I have to wonder if authoritarian countries are more likely to survive long term when they are in crisis.

How do you wonder that? Its objectively true

Depends on how bad your definition of shit is.
>blm chimp out? maybe
>hurricane katrina most likely as long as there is no footage of you
>total societal collapse 100%

>That they can take out thier rage on others that easily
People taking out years of pent up anger out on strangers isn't even the worst part. Wait a little while and see how quickly people will resort to cannibalism. Random torture and murder is only the tip

Authoritarian, MONOLITHIC, and anti-globalist, countries have no reason to collapse into crisis in the first place. At least not to that point where there is no food. This stability is the whole point of ehtno national socialism. The US, being the exact opposite of that, probably will collapse into civil war. The good news is that it will take 20-50 years for that to happen so you might die of old age by that time. Its also why guns are important. While they do not guarantee survival, they can guarantee death by a hail of your enemies bullets, rather than death by your enemies gay bukkake torture session. It is also why its crucial for any father to makes sure his daughters are equipped and trained to fight.

I've never been out of the US except once to Canada.

>20-50 years for that to happen
lolno

Lot's of people got arrested after the fact during the LA riots. Even if they were "aggressively" defending themselves

Martial law just means the writ of habeas corpous is suspended and the motary has full powers of arrest. It doesn't mean The Purge is happening. (Although i kind of wish it did).

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>what actually happened
most of Katrina stories in the press are about the Superdome and the city being flooded.
What rarely got reported is what happened in neighborhoods surrounding the cities.

There were roving bands of niggers going and finding shit to take and break. There WAS Navy/Marine and particulary spooky/contractors near the port and Algiers Point, but in the city (like the Oakwood Mall) niggers were going places just because they could because they knew the police couldn't be everywhere. This sort of thing happens WHENEVER there is a loss / outage of infrastructure when you have a city population with >10% niggers. Look at the LA Riots (fwiw - you saw small-scale nigger insurrections coinciding with the LA riots, simply 'because')

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I lived through Katrina. AMA

Actually no, there was a group of white vigilantes during Katrina who paroled their neighborhood and shot every black person they saw. At least 15 blacks confirmed killed, a few dozen others injured. Nothing happened and the whites got off scott free, didn't even have trials

>If Anderson Cooper didn't say it, it didn't happen.

I'd consider some random prepper more credible than CNN, the US State Department, or any Non-Gentile Organization you might name.

sauce?

is all the physical damage fixed and no longer noticeable, at least in the main downtown areas?

No. If the bad guys win, they'll do a pacification, a re-education, and then a truth and reconciliation committee to catch anybody they might have missed.
Thing is, in that situation, survival will be more important than what's coming down the pipe five years from then.

in the main areas? mostly. Still will occasionally see a house with the checked X on the front but thats rare.