How effective would troops dropped from orbit be...

How effective would troops dropped from orbit be? I'd imagine you'd need to make specialized pods with turrets and other support material needed to ensure a beachhead for the troops landing from orbit VIA Jow Forumscraft.

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Can you imagine landing heavy tanks VIA pods?

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Of you're talking about warhomo 40gay
>loud arrival
>limited crew
>might not even be reusable
>crushing what you land on, which means bridges are gone and roads fucked for the next guys
1/10

>be warboss Squigshagger
>biggest an' greenest boy eva
>jus got dun krumpin' deez week spoiky 'umies with choppas shuv'd up dey poopdakkas
>be drinkin squig extract triple distilled
>BY GORK
>allof a suddden sky starts rainin dakka
>is a bootiful site it 's
>get krumped into da floor
>beakie boyz come rushin out in silence, no WAAAAAAAAAAGH! or nuffin
>get pissed on by grot
They'd be fucking terrifying user, almost no fucking warning and then BOOM! Ten or so shaq-shaped tanks with grenade launcher rifles start mowing you down, implying you didn't get crushed by the impact.

>How effective would troops dropped from orbit be?
Poor aspect ratio makes them really inefficient for orbital bombardment compared to pic related, but I still wouldn't wanna get one dropped on me.

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Look at this grot

Not true. This pod has a successful utilization record of 1.2 trillion simulated and on actual. This lander is ready go on demand.

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What if your trying to secure something like someone with alien tech?

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I still think orbit is dumb, but if you needed to sure up a faltering advance or something, maybe from bomber. Drop dudes into the thick of it. But basically, the type of fighting where this is a viable tactic no longer takes place. I still like the idea of using HALO or some single man drop pod for high altitude insertion from stealth bombers, though. To my knowledge, it never got further than paper.

We can already land tanks from bombers or heavy lift aircraft from the 60's nothing newer can do that because what is technology?

But, I imagine you could do it for pods or just a plate with harness and seats.

assuming you could do it? it'd probably be reasonably effective, but your attrition rates would be really high (off target, hit too hard and knocked out, blown to shit by antimissile systems) so you'd need to drop a fuckload of them at one time for it to matter. plus that's a lot of resources to expend in a single use item, unless you have engineers come back later and retrieve the capsules.
yes, but airdropped vehicles and supplies are (generally) dropped into secure or semisecure areas, not as a direct invasion force (primarily due to the aircraft required being so fucking huge)

>yes, but airdropped vehicles and supplies are (generally) dropped into secure or semisecure areas, not as a direct invasion force (primarily due to the aircraft required being so fucking huge)
So..

Use the drop pods as missiles landing your troops on the enemy troops?

Not the same user but you kinda get why this is an issue. its the same logic as to why paradrops aren't that big of a deal anymore.

You are inserting a small underpowered unit anywhere, and if they are not specops or recon they wont do shit. If you want them to do shit, then you are fighting a force so fucking weak that this is pointless or you are gonna need to send a lot of shit. If you send a lot of shit, you lose the stealth factor of it and you need to deploy in bigger numbers into safer further away zones and so on.

Correct me if im wrong but Wargame is the only RTS where you can attempt to do IRL tactics and see them succeed against any other kind. In the game the only function of the air units is to do recon or to do quick transport all inside friendly lines or to do atacks. Any kind of air unit is absolutely vulnerable, and an orbital drop wouldn't be very hard to notice either.

yeah, even if by "orbital" we mean "extremely high atmosphere" because drops from orbit would take hours, and be hell to target, you're still getting seen by every detection system known to man long before you're on target.
also, if you are dropping specops/recon, they're going to have to destroy or camouflage their drop equipment, which may actually attract more attention, while also getting the fuck off the DZ as soon as they hit.
you pretty much have the same problems SOG did in nam but x100 due to futuretech

They'd die on the way down from gravitational stress. Nothing could survive the impact either

Correct. I do like the tech in paper, but if its not stealthy enough to drop a big force without being detected, or strong enough to support a surprise offensive, then its not gonna work. Parachuting units in modern combat only works when you paradrop a dedicated force made to do a single mission or you have to destroy stealth and have 4 C-17s make huge lines of parachutes visible to everyone alerting everyone that you can only use to drop infantry, and at best, light vehicles.

Helicopter insertions work because they can be much sneakier than airplanes and because of that, they can get away with more stealth insertions and extractions than flat out assault offensives.

Imagine the scene with me Jow Forums

So there is to group of stranded soldiers fighting for their lives while surrounded by rebels.
They require support and, for some strange reason, the command decides to send additional troops on a drop pod instead of giving some CAS.

So this group of soldiers are there shooting their last rounds when at a certain point

BAAAANG a drop pod arrives from the space smaking the ground at 700km/h.

Instantly all the troops (even the enemy) have an erection, everyone plays Halo ost in their head and they expect some bad ass soldiers coming out of the space ship looking thing.

The door of the pod opens, and suddenly a loud
"Sblaaaaarg" echoes on the battlefield.
The grinded remains of several special forces is slowing pushed out of the thin can while everyone alive is now puking and shitting at the same time.

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Yeah

>keeping infrastructure intact
>40k
im laffin

Dont drop pods typically have like fucking parachutes or little thrusters so soften the landing?

If you want a permanent station it will need to be on a perfect polar orbit in LEO, not the best thing to ressuply since it will have a short a rendez vous windows. You'll obviously need a permanent garrison, implying consta,nt resupply of food,guns,... Since it's in polar orbit it will cover all the earth but some time will be needed for the optimal position of the station.
You will be unable to move the station around, just waiting for the time it is above the enemy position. Troops will also need special training.
List could go on.
TLDR : Really expensive, overly complicated, could be a potent wildcard and shift a conflict around. Unlikely to be seen, aircraft carrier can mostly do the same thing on earth. But who knows maybe on mars some sort of station will exist in the future

Depends from the sci novel you choose.
In Halo the ODSTs arrive fast

For tactical uses? Terrible.
At that scale? Terrible.
For strategic airlift at 100t and up? Amazing.
With whats happening in NewSpace we could realistically have an alternative to the C5 galaxy that trades a two increase in flight-cost for a 40 fold reduction in flight-time in under decade.

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Nice use of Penitent Tangent.

In 40K the do have landing thrusters but the whole point is to deliver supermen in powered exoskeleton armour from head to toe to back again so the little thrusters are moot

They're basically fancy paratroopers that deploy not on a parachute but in a metal pod.
They'll get on the ground faster, but they are essentially still no different from paratroopers.

and have a 60% survival rate in a hot lz

>because drops from orbit would take hours
I mean ignoring the time it takes to get enough space between it and the ISS just in case, the Soyuz only takes 54minutes from the start of the deorbit burn to touchdown. And we can absolutely cut time off that.
That doesn't make the concept feasible, but that counterargument has problems.

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Just uhhhhhhhh
Dont drop it on shit you don't wanna break?

They have anti-gravity generators that maintain a constant G force at a pleasant 9.8 m/s2

on earth it's a terrible idea.
maybe stuff like orbit-to-ground weapons like those russian orbital nukes or orbit-launched fighter\bomber planes .
dropping infantry is too expensive,you're very likely to lose the very expensive shit . pods can very easily be intercepted by modern anti-ballistic air defense systems like arrow.

Why do the orks talk like die antwoord

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