In a straight blow back 9mm firearm would it be OK to make the Bolt out of mystery meat pot metal?
It's not like it actually does anything but be heavy and go back and forth
In a straight blow back 9mm firearm would it be OK to make the Bolt out of mystery meat pot metal?
Ryder Powell
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Ryan Moore
No
Logan Green
Maybe
Elijah Wright
Why?
what could possibly go wrong?
Grayson Carter
I would imagine stress fractures could be an issue. It slams shut pretty hard. It could crack or start to mushroom if it isn't strong enough. It is hard to cushion the closing of a blowback bolt because you can run into issues of not going into battery. So it basically has to slam shut with metal on metal contact.
Thomas Cruz
Possibly ok in a openbolt gun.
Brandon Collins
Yeah let's make a metal battering ram that contstantly jumps towards your face out of random metal lol
Blake Nelson
Yeah, it's fine. It's also already been done. Just go get a hi-point.
Daniel Perry
thats kind of what hi point did.
Elijah Martinez
Back-and-forth motion is still loading the part, so a shitty cast will eventually stress fracture after enough cycles.
Joshua Hughes
>needing more than one shot to eliminate a threat
okay, so people like you can just carry around multiple bolts to change out as you miss, but the fact stands that mystery pot metal will still work
Christian Gomez
Of course, I mean, you've got two hands. If the gun explodes and takes your hand clean off, you can still use the other one.
Zachary Gutierrez
Gun powder isn't an explosive kid
Angel King
Noah Campbell
this is called user error
Kevin Smith
EDM some dog bones and do some tensile testing. Is everyone on this site a fucking mouthbreather?
Eli Jackson
>guns don't explode
>ok ok they explode but only when people do dumb things
What sort of dumb things? Like building a gun out of shit metal?
Parker Green
The 3d printed liberator will work out of plastic. Doesn't mean its a good idea.
Mason Lewis
Boomer
You can make a cannon out of wood
Grayson Jackson
So basically this
Juan Allen
> strips and loads rounds
> houses primer
>rear of pressure bearing part of firearm
Yeah sure make it cheap, should be fine.
Jacob Young
>still has metal binding for support
Brandon Stewart
All the pressuring bearing parts of Hi-Points are steel. Pretty good quality steel actually.
Bentley Davis
black powder 9mm go time
Brandon Miller
You'll still need steel for the boltface as a critical pressure area and fine tolerances, but you could use that shitmetal as the rest of the reciprocating mass.
Nathaniel Cruz
except, yanno, the fucking slide, which is zamak.
Jacob Walker
No, it will deform or crack.
Daniel Lopez
They embed steel plates in various places of the slide when making it, presumably for the breech-face and at other places.
The slide is not 100% Zamak.
William Lopez
With blackpowder, yeah. If you try to make a smokeless cannon out of a log, what you get is splinters going every direction.
Charles Diaz
Explosions don't require explosives.
Wyatt Hill
No, the thing will mushroom on both ends.
Christian Adams
basically just Hi-Point?
Henry Price
No, Hi-Points are steel reinforced.
If you want to see what an all Zamak pistol is like, look at like Bryco, Jennings, Davis, or whatever Ring Of Fire deathtrap is like.
Adam Moore
>an all Zamak pistol is like, look at like Bryco, Jennings, Davis, or whatever Ring Of Fire
Nope. the barrels were steel, the slides and frames were Zamak.
Ethan Wilson
you'd get erosion in the chamber
Jacob Richardson
A 5.56 boltface is close enough to 9mm to open up with nigger tier methods (lapping compound around a case and run that shit with a hand drill, the case will go more than the bolt even steel case, just consider them consumable until your have a fit, or even hand file it open.)
Just buy an AR bolt and cast your shitbolt with a void that it goes in and contrive a way to pin it in, or if you're making a laminated sheetmetal bolt you should be able to use your brain and cut the correct shapes out of the sheets of laminate so when they're assembled your AR bolt fits in.
If you're doing this somewhere you can't get an AR bolt you're probably already doing a hot crime so you may as well try and get a bolt through the mail. Go big or go home.
Mason Thompson
Dunno about the ones you listed, but Phoenix HP-22 does have a steel breechface insert in the slide.
Ayden Baker
It depends. I believe Hi-Point uses Zamak for all their components. The real trick is you want a uniform material so one part won't just shatter and that's a danger with pot metal. In general though, overbuild if using questionable material
Carson Flores
>make the bolt face out of actual steel of some kind
>the rest of the bolt could be lead
The sten used a bronze bolt, just sayin. hardened steel is more important in a locking bolt system.