Would you choose to be a velite, hastati, principe or triarii?

Would you choose to be a velite, hastati, principe or triarii?

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Equites

My Space Marine chapters were the Velites - the underfunded little brothers to the ultramarines who always took terrible casualties doing the side-stuff that didn't get turned into paintings and most often got ignored.

I loved those little buggers.

That wasn't an option! Also, you can't. You're too fat. Think of the poor horse.

>i have to post anime cute kawaii GIRLS UWU DESU INTO everything I DO AND POST it's my identity baka >_

Whichever lets me fuck centurii chan

Who were the guys who got to operate the balistas and onagers? I want to do that.

>Invested at a seige around another barbarian walled town
>Not much to do atm, foraging parties are all out collecting grain and timber
>Spend the days on baliata duty, we aim our machine at gaps in the enemy parapet.
>Whenever one of them pokes his head up, we take a shot.
>Flavius made an effigy out of straw, sackcloth and captured enemy armor that we display with our standard.
>He stuck a bolt through its head and hung a piece of slate around its neck on which we keep a running tally.
>We're up to XIV this week, just shy of the record.

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Engineers were specialists, immunes. Generally they would have been plebs from the middle class, men with sufficient schooling to be able to read and write and do basic arthmatic and chosen by the existing engineers from the ranks. The opinion seems to be when a vacancy opened up then legionaries were able to apply for it.

principes
>not the meat shield
>not the reserve
>the tried and true spearmen of Rome

In the roman republic they probably recruited from men who had experience with carpentry. Once the legions professionalised with the Marian reforms they probably got less carpenters so had to train their own.

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Triarii isn't an option either, they're the soldiers who got older

>Implying Jow Forums isn't full of fat old boomers

ugh, we're here forever....

you must be the bravest man in the entire century to do that!

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Auxiliary cavalry seems fun.

Riding instead of marching.

i just want to stand amid the chaos and wash of blood with the standard raised to glory.

>tfw want to be Augustus but am actually Lepidus

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depends on when you’re talking about, they can also be the ones with enough money for chainmail+helmet+greaves+weapons but not enough for a horse

You didn't choose. Young roosters up front, old farts in the back.

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>artist's own painful handwriting
>battelfield
yeah no I'm stopping there

>mrseriouspants

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Cringe

uhhhhhhhhhh
caesar :)

cute

Triarii

Back line. Don't need me to risk my ass unless SHTF

Triarii is the most Jow Forums becauses you get to sit in the back and talk shit.

I don't like these options, I'd try to get a job as a Vexillarius.
Get a furry suit, if I feel like going over here to stab someone everyone has to try and come with. Plus everyone is going to rally around you anyway making you the safest spot in the battle, or most murderous if you're advancing enough. Seems like a good gig.

Lepidus was actually a very skilled military commander in real life. He was a victim of Augustan propaganda.

Praetorian is the way to go to be on top of all the other peasants and personal financial standing .

Mind the fantasy armor in pic.

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Reminder if the only history you know or care about is European or Far eastern/japanese specifically, and you don't know much of anything about other regions or time periods, you don't actually give a shit about history and are basically pic related

Even excluding tribal shit and stuff pre-1500AD,There's so many other places with thousands of years of complex societies.

>5000 in the Fertile Crescent, from Bronze age Mesopotamian Sumer, Babylon, etc & Old Kingdom Egypt, to Iron Age Assyria, the Persian Empire & Poltemic Egypt, and various Medieval Caliphates
>4000 in India/South Asia, from the Indus River Valley civilization, to the Vedic giving birth to the Sanskirt epic poems, to India's contact with the Western world in the classic period and the Maurya Empire, various other empires and then under Medivial Islamic rule such as by the Mughals
>3500 in China/East Asia, from China's Shang Dyasty , Unification under the Ming, the 3 kingdoms, subsequent reunification and splits, ancient and medieval korea, etc
>3000 in Mesoamerica from the early Olmec cities and the spread of civilization in the preclassic, the prominence of Teotihuacan & Golden age of the Maya and the Zapotec during the classic, the rise of the Mixtec over the Zapotec+ the Toltec succeeding Teotihuacan in the early postclassic, to the rise of the Aztec empire in the Toltec's stead and their rivalrly with the Purepecha empire in the late Postclassic
>1500 in the Andes, from Moche city-states, the Nazca, etc during the early intermediate, the Tiwanku and Wari Empires during the Middle Horizon, the Sican & Chimu kingdom in the late intermediate, and the domination by the Inca empire during the late Horizon
>1500 in Southeast asia due to it spreading there from India, such as the Khmer & Suhkothai
>1500 in West Africa due to it spreading there from the fertile crescent, such as the Malil & Songhai
>200 in the Eastern US with the Mississippians who then sadly immediately got fucked by European diseases

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But why would you want that, they have no idea what they're doing. Anyone they have command over has to run over and help the vexillarius. As long as you don't kill all the reinforcements are going to the vexillarius.
it'd be like pic related, HERE STAB PEOPLE HERE RUN OVER HERE AND STAB PEOPLE

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actually I guess that image was a poor choice given the "military hisotry/idolizes warrior culture" thing and this being Jow Forums

regardless, i'm talking more about which cultures/time periods you care about, even if you care mosyl about military history and warfare you should expand your horizons into other civilizational regions

>3000 in Mesoamerica from the early Olmec cities and the spread of civilization in the preclassic, the prominence of Teotihuacan & Golden age of the Maya and the Zapotec during the classic, the rise of the Mixtec over the Zapotec+ the Toltec succeeding Teotihuacan in the early postclassic, to the rise of the Aztec empire in the Toltec's stead and their rivalrly with the Purepecha empire in the late Postclassic

pic related is a more detailed summary of this

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This is definitely the winner for most pretentious post of the day
>imagine preaching this shit on a weapons forum in a cute roman grills thread

You know, I keep appreciating modern communication technology more whenever I am reminded of just how war was fought in the old times with signals and shit.

>tfw listening to The History of Rome podcast
>Get to Praetorian guards
>End up hating the fuck out of them halfway through
>mfw they were finally disbanded.
And nothing of value was lost.

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>history for 2000 years means one thing
>akshually we've discovered history is about how native american tribes viewed gender identity

Holy fucking shit, fuck off you pretentious faggot.
>Ackshewarlly brown pplz wuz kangz! I hate myself so much.
That's you. That's who you are. You know what real historians do? They specialise in a period, place. We look after our own history, and we expect other cultures to look after theirs.

There's a reason praetorian is now considered an epithet.

Well if you fear getting killed on purpose because you got the flag. It's just a big murderous game of capture the flag. May as well die if the retards can't show up to the flag. Good luck trying to point in a direction to go to and they don't show up to stab people, fucking shit bags.

Based fellow actually misspeller.

not even sure what you are trying to say here user

Litterally all of the groups I posted had actual cities and formal state rule (aside from the Mississippians which only really had one city and proto-statehood, but were just at the cusp of true statehood), so yes, they were kangz

>You know what real historians do? They specialise in a period, place

That's correct, yes, and there's nothing wrong with specialization, but there IS something wrong without knowing the bare basics about other cultures and time periods at all: it robs you of the chance to be aware of what else there is to learn, enjoy, and get interested in. Some of that shit is every bit as interesting and engaging as Greco-Roman history.

>We look after our own history, and we expect other cultures to look after theirs.

What sort of stupid fucking cultural/historiographic isolationist crap is this? Are you fucking Italian or Mediterranean? Are most of the people who talk about nip shit actually japanese? Most historical work on pretty much all the groups I listed other then like with china, korea, india, and southeast asia were done by europeans as well you moron

Fuck off retard. Real historians focus on specific periods and topics. Take your kangz shit back to r/blackedhistory or whatever.

>Litterally all of the groups I posted had actual cities and formal state rule (aside from the Mississippians which only really had one city and proto-statehood, but were just at the cusp of true statehood), so yes, they were kangz

So where are they now?

>What sort of stupid fucking cultural/historiographic isolationist crap is this? Are you fucking Italian or Mediterranean? Are most of the people who talk about nip shit actually japanese? Most historical work on pretty much all the groups I listed other then like with china, korea, india, and southeast asia were done by europeans as well you moron
It's ok, you didn't have to tell me you're a dilletante. I had already worked it out.

You wanna know how I know you’re a lot of fun at parties

blablablablablablablabla muh based poc!!! apologize wypipo!!

Hastati, you sons of bitches
Do you want to live forever?

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We get it, you read Guns, Germs, and Steel. A general understanding of history is just that, general. You are the equlivant of basic white bitches who like to "travel" but only do the touristy shit. Its superficial and annoying. I have my BA in history, my academic advisor was the department head, after your first year you were encouraged to specialize in something because thats what historians do.

>muh aztecs
They were steamrolled by the Spanish and the other tribes in the area because they were tired of the annual "we need sacrifices for our blood and corn gods" raids. Look! I learned something from the Eurocentric book "Carnage of Cultures."

Go haze yourself, you should be bullied on principle.

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>What was your specialization?
I bounced around for a bit and learned quite a bit. I took a class on the cold war and ended up falling in love with foreign policy and geopolitics. This evolved into insurgencies and counter insurgencies. My capstone was on COIN methods in Southern Africa and the cross pollination between South Africa and Rhodesia. I've continued to learn about things that catch my eye because I'm a nerd and lifelong learning is a workout for your brain. That and I hated how history is viewed as "progress" when I took my historiography class so I had to see if that was actually correct. Pro-tip, its not.

>the Dust Bowl migration with a focus on Okie cultural history.
I took one class on the depression on the request of my academic advisor and wanted to fucking kill myself. Why would you do that to yourself?

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Fuck off back to /his/

Androphagi

God forbid someone be interested in military history and warrior cultures on Jow Forums. God forbid someone be interested in the history of their own people/culture/country.

>IF YOU DONT KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING THEN FUCK YOU
God I hate this mentality. Most people aren’t autistic enough to sit down and read through the entire history of everything.

Most of what you mentioned has very little information about it between either not having a written language, making oral history the only records at all of it, or were so long ago that we have only a few written records that we may or may not be able to translate. For some context on that, the Old Testament/Torah was the only written record we had of several cities in that region and most people thought they were myths until some archeologists followed the directions given therein and found them.

TL:DR: it's hard to care about the history of places that have very little left for us to care about.

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This is a non-setiquor, one has nothing to do with one another. Also if you honestly think all that shit is we wuz tier revionism then that just proves my poiint and justifies me posting it

>So where are they now

Following the periods I described?

>Mesopotamia/the middle east started to lose pace with europe during the middle ages and the success of european imperalism made them relatively un-influential and then increasingly fundamentalist Islam caused them to stagnate
>India got gradually buttfucked by Britain,
>China never really stopped being successful, just not on a global scale
>Mesoamerica got fucked due the way unique Mesoamerican geopolitics operated as a result of their lack of beasts of burden made it so that when Spain showed up, they all tried to use Spain against each other to further their own interests, and then diseases meant that almost the entire native population got wiped out and Spain could benefit in the Aftermath
>Andes got fucked due to a similar situation, but the Inca having a more unified, preexisting imperial rule over the entire civilizational region vs the Aztec Empire only controlling around 1/3 of it and the aformentioned unique elments of mesoamerican politics meant the process went easier
>Southeast Asia gradually got buttfucked by the european colonialism
>Honestly not even sure what happened to West Africa, I'll admit my own ignorance here
>Mississipians had a moderate collapse a century before europeans showed up, then when they did european pathogens wiped them out before they had the chance to recover

>you're a dilletante.
I have a specific focus, I don't know why you, , and are assuming I don'twhich is Mesoamerican history. But the only reason I was able to invest in that as a primary focus is because I bothered to learn more about other major world civilizations and their history and then found a particular area I never realized was as inteesting as it was before that

1/2

Absolutely based

>doesn't know about Africa

Wow, racist much?

It's meant to be cute.

>1/2
Ugh, please don't

cont:

>Guns, Germs, and Steel.
Gun, Germs, and Steel is a shitty book that on top of making a ton of factual errors; straight up fails on a conceptual level by trying to craft a grand narrative of human history and a clear singular cause for why it played out how it did (geographic determinism). It also makes huge misteps in assuming that there's a singular linear path to soceital and technological progression

>you were encouraged to specialize in something because thats what historians do.
Of course, again, not denying that. I'm not shitting on specialization, i'm shitting on not even learning the bare minumum amount of other places to have a true understanding of what your options are and where you can then specialize into/without having grave misuinderstandings about broad, fundamental parts of history: If you know jack fucking shit about all those other places then you don't exactly have fair baseline to choose what to do from there.

Not even just talking frpom an academic perspective, but a hobbiyst one as well.

>They were steamrolled by the Spanish and the other tribes in the area because they were tired of the annual "we need sacrifices for our blood and corn gods" raids

There's not a single thing in this statement that's not horribly wrong, which proves me point: The Conquest of Mexico was one of the biggest turning points in human history and you clearly have no clue how it actually went due to not bothering to even give it a real look.

There were no other tribes in the area becuase Mesoamerica didn't had tribes, It was filled with city-based formal states (obviously with smaller towns and rural communities between them, as with europe) and had been for thousands of yearsThe Aztec empire didn't raid these city-states for sacririce victims; their goal was economic extraction and just made conquered states tributaries they didn't interfere with the governance with.

2/3 need one more post.

>2/3 need one more post.
Nooooooo

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>our own history
we wuz romans and sheeeit

That's because there's so little to say about African history that it remains virtually unknown. You had a few large camps that they referred to as "empires" or "cities" but almost no major structures to support that narrative in the classical European sense... or any real sense for that matter.

An elite Cataphract of the Han Empire, the greatest in the world.

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It's almost like history depends on documents and artifacts, of which Africa produced very little.

*GREAT Han Empire

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The Mali and Songhai Empires were as large as all of Western Europe, and by your own logic the lack of information on it should make it easier to know all there is to know.

The Aztec empire was also not "steamrolled": Cortes miraculously came across shipwrecked spaniards who had learnt local languages to act as translators, was spared by the Republic of Tlaxcala after they soundly defeated him so they could use him to take out their own political rivals, was allowed into the Aztec captial due to the nature of mesoamerican diplomacy and when the force headed by Pánfilo de Narváez arrived to arrest Cortes, since his expedition was illegal, one of the men happened to be carrying smallpox, which then broke out in the captial when Cortes convinced the force to join him instead. They narrowly escaped a civil uprising in the city, which killed Montezuma, and as they regrouped in Tlaxcala; 7-8 city-states saw that the captial was vulnerable due to the death of it's king and the outbreak, and as is the case when political dominant cities in mesoamerica are weak due to each city even in the context of a larger empire viewing itself as a discerete policitical entity in Mesoamerican politics, joined Cortes and Tlaxcala to take it out, and only did so after a long hard fought siege that could have ended either way.

The siege itself had 200,000 Mesoamerican soldiers and only 500 spainards. The Aztec empire was just one of dozen polities in the region, and even with massive population losses from both the intial smallpox outbreaks and subsquent ones which killed 60% of the poulation in 30 years, and 90% within 50 years; it still took fucking decades of warring and multiple seperate campaigns against the city-states there, despite the fact that at all times the Spanish were utterly reliant and dependent on the aid of native states who now viewed spain much the same way they did the Aztecs, not realizing the fundamental difference between Spain's eventual imperalismn and how Mesoamerican empires functioned, or by indepedent states, again, using the spanish against their rivals.

3/? you really pissed me off and got me going

I’m not that user, but I’d like to hear your reasoning for why history isn’t “progress”. I agree with you, I’d just like to hear your thoughts.

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Had stuff played out even a bit differently early on, Cortes would have been fucked, the smallpox outbreak wouldn't have broken out, spain would have never even bothered pursueuiing widespread conquest since it was cortes's intial success and the mad dosh he got that made it worth it to them, and even if they wanted to without the established logistical foothold cortes gave them and the pathogen spread from it, they would have never been able to

Do I expect you to know litterally all of this? Of course fucking not.

But here's the thing: The fact that Mesoamerican cultures were nigh-universal polities in urban centers, not tribes is as basic information that bronze age mesopotmaia or classical greece had polities, not tribes. The fact that the Aztec empire didn't directly govern it's conquered cities or antagoize them is basic information. The specific outline of events of the spanish conquest and the specific geopolitical factors that went into it might not be basic info, but it's what caused one of the critical moments in world history to play out as it did.

You said in that you fell in love with foreign policy and geopolitics. What happened with Mesoamerican city-states and how they interacted with each other and the Spanish to further their own agendas, only for it to bite them in the ass in light of both the fundamental different way spanish imperalism worked, and from diseases, is the EXACT SORT OF FUCKING SHIT that you should be into examining given your focus

You cannot and should not anybody to specialize in everything; but you also need to not be totally clueless about anything, and you clearly ARE totally clueless about some things, despite their importance and relevance to both the world today and your specialty.

I doubt you'll read it, but I made this writup about Mesoamerican geopolitcs a few days ago. It might be up your alley: pastebin.com/h18M28BR

4/?

>The Aztec Empire didn’t raid city-states for sacrifice victims
You are extraordinarily wrong. They specifically waged what’s known as “Flower Wars” specifically for the purpose. The Aztec soldiers were even told to capture their enemies rather than kill them in order to acquire more people to be sacrificed. This in turn, led to the extreme antagonizing of literally every other people around them, as well as ensuring it was more of a shock when the Spaniards showed up with battlefield intent to KILL rather than kidnap. All the surrounding peoples, in turn, joined the Spanish after they demonstrated their ability to rape Aztec armies.

The conquest of the Aztecs was a steam roll and accomplished in a relatively short time with relative ease given the circumstances Cortes found himself in. Over the course of your posting, you have proven yourself as nothing more than a pretentious pseudo intellectual.

Sure. Rephrase it how you want, we agree.

I knew this was going to get brought up. The fact of the matter is that the Mali and Songhai left very little in the way of any sort of monument or historical record. Mansa Musa simply chimped out and spent every fleck of gold he could find and the only real knowledge about his reign comes from Arab sources. The Songhai succeeded the Mali but were completely dominated by the Moroccans hardly 50 years after their own rise and no one did anything after that. These weren't "empires" in the sense of an empire anywhere else on the globe, but rather an unsophisticated tribal network that immediately collapsed once faced with any vague external threat by a foreign power.

Flower Wars were not "Raids", the fact you called them that made me not even realize that's what you meant

Flower Wars were used in two contexts: Ritualistically and pragmatically. Ritualistically, they were mutially agreed on, pre-arranged battles between two Nahua city-states that shared the cultural practice and were used for things like cementing alliances. These were the ONLY time Flower Wars were waged amongst already politically subservient or allied states and given it was a mutial affair, was not something they were detested for, but more on that later.

Pragmatically, they were used in place of sieges, which weren't normally possible given the logistical issues with the lack of beasts of burden: No calvary meant a larger emphasis on army sizes, which meant that more people were kept away from the farms, which meant that warfare needed to be seasonal so that soldiers could be back home to tend to crops, especially since the mesoamerican diet was more exclusively crop based; on top of this since porters, who had to be used in place of mules couldn't graze. Flower Wars, however, due to their smaller scale and ritualistic nature, could be employed year long to apply pressure to enemy states and wear them down over time, as they would be preoccupied defending and not tending to their own farms or infanstructure, wheras the Aztec, having a much larger amount of manpower to pull from and only using a fraction of it for them, could bear the brunt.

The entire idea that the various Mesoamerican states "hated" the Aztec is a meme. What happened with the state that allied with Cortes against the Aztec is a classic example of something you see throughout mesoamerican history due to how it's gepolitical norms worked, something I explain in greater detail in the pastebin in .

Seriously, dude, read the pastebin. And pick up Hassig's Aztec Warfare: Imperial Expansion and Political Control

Blow it out your ass faggot.

Actually going to go ahead and summarize what's in the pastebin for you since I know you won't read it:

Due to the fact that, as a result of the logistical burden of doing long distance campaigns or occupying a foreign area (see the stuff I mentuion in the prior post regarding siege), almost all Mesoamerican empires ruled via hands off methods. As such, even cities that were a part of these larger empires viewed themselses as disceret entities, since they were: they still had their own laws, customs, rulers, and political relatiosnhips.

As such, Mesoamerican captials had to play a careful realpolitik game of being able to maintain the illluision of (or the actual ability to ) project military force unto potential rebellions/secessions, doing political marriages and formal diplomatic relations to keep alliances/gopod relations, cite generalogical connections to prior respected civilizations and supernatural figures, etc. Obviously this is something that happened in all places with political states, but it was an exceptionally delicate game for Mesoamerican empires. In fact, every time an aztec emperor died, border provinces would rebel to see what they could get away with, and the new emperor's preformance re-subjugating them would color how all the other subservient cities would deal with the new emperor. In one such case, the new emperor, tizoc, was such a failure the entire empire nearly shattered and he had to be assassinated by his own nobility.

Note how in the events I outlined for the Conquest, all of the states only join cortes AFTER Montezuma II is dead and the smallpox outbreak begins: the only one to aloly with cortes before then is Tlaxcala, who; unlike the other states, had been an ACTIVELY in the process of being conquered: No shit they'd have a grudge. Flower Wars were being used against them to weaken Tlaxcala, but the problem here was just that: it was being used as a pragmatic tool of conquest.

Not him, i'm the guy who is apparently annoying everybody but I assume that user is talking about how the concept of there being a linear, set path of technological or sociaological progress that advances over time is wrong.

different socities will progress and change over time in different ways depending on a combination of cultural, geographic, and political factors, as well as based on straight up random chance. This is why you see mesoamerican socities, for instance, never using the wheel for transportation or bronze for weapons despite having and using wheels and bronze metallurgy for other things, and in general ONLY having bronze metallurgy despite being far more comparable to iron age or classical cultures in other ways: they developed in a unique, isolated situation from eurasia so no shit they'd develop along a different pathway.

It's not even necessarily postive progression: Socities can "regress" if that regression is more benecifical at the time,or if they are forced to: Various nativfe american groups went from sendatary agriculture and towns back into nomadism just because the latter yeielded more benefits at a lower cost given the conditions they were in.

>Thread about Rome
>Endless (and in many places, incorrect) shitposting about the Spanish conquest of the Americas

Christ alive these posts emit the foulest of foul freshman odors. Your salt level would decrease 1000% if you spent this time watching youtube guides on how to cold approach girls instead of rehashing garbage from your state level public professor's textbook.

But user, you're racist if exclude Aztecs from a discussion about Romans.

Thing is that history is a somewhat linear process and that the Mesopotamian civilizations are European. I mean Europe included Asia Minor and some of North Africa until the fall of the Roman Empire so your argument's sorta self-defeating. And besides,good job shitting on warrior culture on fucking Jow Forums. Also fuck you for trying to pretend that Europe isn't objectively the center of historical progress for the most part.

ITT: Thread about cute drawn roman military girls turns into a history dick swinging contest

KENT-OOR-EYON

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Here's what I don't understand: How are cataphracts possible in the ancient world when the horse breed then is smaller than horse now?

>collapses at the first big rebellion

*Whips out Dong Zhuo*

youtube.com/watch?v=gZ3IxLGMrYE

The long and the short of it: cataphracts were much lighter than knights because they didn't have the technological advantages, which included larger horses, that the knights did. The saddle and stirrups were a very major part of what allowed the knights to wear more gear because he had more than just his legs holding him onto the back of his horse.

Also, it doesn't take a charger to carry a man in full kit. Mongolian horses, for example, were quite small and slow compared to a destrier.

Shouldn't they be Space Wolves?

TREE-AR-E-I

TOWN-WATCH

>rehashing garbage from your state level public professor's textbook.
Funny, since I don't know what fucking trash you got taught considering you outright fucking called the groups that aided Cortes "tribes" when it was a set of around 7 city-states; and are misunderstanding how Flower Wars were used

Nonetheless, if you wanna explain what's wrong that I posted I'm willing to give it a read, though I have 0 faith you'll be pointing out anything actually incorrect

You should really read

Also, again, do yourself a fucking favor and read Hassig's Aztec Warfare: Imperial Expansion and Political Control; which is all about this shit; and the the pastebin I posted, though, which goes into FAR more details on the shit I say in , talks about specific instances of all of the political marriages, coups, rbellions, etc I mention in , I include excerpts from Duran's Historia de las Indias de Nueva España, etc

The only reason I am still posting in this thread is for YOUR benefit. I want you to legitmately be more informed on this shit, especially since you are OUTRIGHT fucking have a bachlor degree in history yet seem so woefull ignorant about this, which only proved my initial point about making sure you have a baseline level of good information about all time periods

> Europe...the center of historical progress

It only seems that way because in the end european culture is what ended up dominating. There's no "Center of Historical progress" when every part of the world, or at least each rough cultural sphere or to go even further each landmass is doing it's own thing.

Also it doesn't fucking matter if something is or isn't the "center of historical progess". Bottom fucking line exclusively looking at european or far eastern culture in any amount of depth and not getting a decent baseline in other areas leaves you with tons of misconceptions, a specific perspoective, and not reealizing how much other cool shit there is to learn

It annoys me that she is meek and nice when Centurions were all literal Hartman tier Sergeants who inspired admiration and terror in equal measure. Centurions beat the living shit out of legionaries with canes, sticks and good old fists, there is a story of a Centurion who earned the nickname "another one" after shouting it so often because he kept breaking his canes during discipline sessions.

But they were also utterly fearless madmen leading the entire unit from the front with a smaller shield and less armor, sometimes plunging alone into the enemy formation killing dozens single handedly and never taking breaks even as the men switched ranks to recover their stamina. Centurions were fucking badasses without equal who could single handedly win battles with their on-the-spot, real time tactical manouvers, like in Cynoscephalae when a Centurion saw an opening in the phalanx and decided to just take his unit and go for it.

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I fully disagree here. Many of those regions might have a relative lack of written records relative to rome or china, but Mesopotamia, Egypt, and India still have a fuck ton of records, with Southeast Asia and Mesoamerica still having a pretty good amount as well.

To focus on Mesoamerica, while there's only a dozen pre-contact books that survived the Spanish book burnings but there's still a LOT we have recorded and know about the Aztec in particular thanks to both Conquistador accounts, Aztec chroniclers/scribes and Spanish friars re-recording information during the early colional period

Ss a result we still have hundreds of Aztec-language sources and many times more spanish sources detailing their history, society, cultural practices, etc. Sahagun's A History of the Indies of New Spain is like 2000+ pages alone purely going in depth on Aztec history, governmental system, daily life. medicine, craftwork/art, religion, class systems, econmics, etc. There's enough that there's entire books written about specific Aztec indivuals, such as "The Allure of Nezahualcoyotl" or "Tlaclelel remebered"

There's a lot of Old World civilizations we know less about then the Aztec, eveb. There's pretty decent documentation on at least the political history of the Classical Maya too thanks to a bunch of surviving inscriptions detailing the history of key events, such as construction projects, wars, ascensions, alliances, etc for dozens of Maya cities; Same for the Mixtec, though due to surviving books rather then inscriptions. Other civilizations such as the Zapotec, Purepecha, etc fare less well, but there's still 1-2 colonial records a la the aztec ones for them each and we have archeological data, and info about them from aztec sources.

The reason nobody talks about this shit is that most of it only started to get studied seriously in the past century and most still don't have English translations.

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Well it is a waifu comic. Certain sacrifices have to be made in the name of moe.

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>Military history
>on Jow Forums, a weapons and military board
Go back to being some mouthbreather on /his/, faggot.

praetorian-chan is lowkey best girl

Good god nobody gives a flying fuck about jungle spics on a roman anime girls thread. Why is /his/ quickly becoming Jow Forums tier in insufferable faggotry level?

She has her priorities in line.

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We all know Romans liked their boipucci so why don't the girls get some action too?

say anons, know any good books/media about roman shit? i'd like to know more but i find my current sources to be lacking.

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