Friends, I know this may sound crazy, but hear me out

Jack Anderson
Jack Anderson

Friends, I know this may sound crazy, but hear me out. I supported Trump in '16, but sometimes I think we as gun owners would be better off now if Hillary had won. Don't misunderstand me: I despise Hillary, but if she were in the White House right now, gun owners would be very angry and very politically active, with even more zeal than we had under Obama. We would still be buying ammo as fast as manufacturers could make it. Any Republican Congressman who dared to concede an inch to the grabbers would be swiftly excommunicated from the party. Hillary's court nominees would be Borked. Jury Nullification would cut the courts off at the knees. Budget sequestration would bankrupt the ATF long before it could issue any more "rulings." Instead, Trump's empty words and unfulfilled promises have lulled us into a false sense of security while more and more states have colluded with him to pass gun confiscation acts. What the gun community needs more than winning elections is to grow a spine and stand in solidarity with one another.

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Justin Sanders
Justin Sanders

Nice try blueshare. Or is shareblue? I don't even fucking remember.

Levi Flores
Levi Flores

Jow Forums - Weapons

Alexander Ramirez
Alexander Ramirez

The only answer now is boogaloo.

Carter Bennett
Carter Bennett

This post glows

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Dylan Moore
Dylan Moore

Neoconservatives only act pro-gun to be contrarian to the democrats. They still don't give a fuck about anyone other than the goyim in blue and our finest oil/Israel defense forces, having guns.

That being said, Trumpfags are some of the most embarrassing gun owners of recent times. The same people threatening a civil war under Obama, are deafeningly quiet after Trump talked about raising the age to 21, adding more background checks, turned bump stock owners into felons, and talked about banning silencers before telling SCOTUS not to hear a case on them. All because he has an (R) by his name.
inb4 bootyblasted /pol/fags cry //boards.Jow Forums.org/pol/ because people know their hero president is a gun grabbing RINO

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Thomas Lewis
Thomas Lewis

sometimes I think we as gun owners
Shut the fuck up kike

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Jaxson Moore
Jaxson Moore

I supported Trump in '16, but sometimes I think we as gun owners would be better off now if Hillary had won
Literally stopped reading there because is an obvious troll thread that will get 300 replies because this board sucks. Later faggots

Carter Thompson
Carter Thompson

Kinda feel the same. Like that horrible bitch had won, there'd have been protestors armed and ready. Not antifa faggots. The 2nd civil war would've probably been over by now. O well, at least she never got the satisfaction of winning, and we dont have to hear her insufferable voice

Logan Barnes
Logan Barnes

Any post that begins with "my fellow" or "dear [large and unhomogenous collective]" is guaranteed government bait

Henry Cox
Henry Cox

This literally sounds like it was written by a fucking bot

Nathaniel Stewart
Nathaniel Stewart

I got a little bit of news for you. Trump's lips have seen more Jewish tokhes than a toilet in Tel Aviv. Trump has given the Jews absolutely everything they demanded, including his daughter.
Why would the government be encouraging jury nullification? You really have thought this through have you?

Dylan Adams
Dylan Adams

Trump is a Jewish shill, therefore there can't be any pro-dem Jewish shills! The Hegelian Dialectic is absolute, goyim!
t. Seething kike

Jaxson Morgan
Jaxson Morgan

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Michael Parker
Michael Parker

You discord trannies have been using that one a lot lately.

Chase Collins
Chase Collins

This meme doesn't even make sense. You should feel bad about your post because it's bad.

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Isaiah Fisher
Isaiah Fisher

I never said I was pro-Dem. I said that the backlash against Hillary would have been better than losing our rights to RINOs like Drumpf. Our victory in '16 was a Pyrrhic one.

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Nolan Scott
Nolan Scott

2019
still thinking anyone Jewish has a problem with Trump

Face it, Trump is just your typical neoconservative. Campaign Trump was funny and spoke some truth but his time in office has been completely unfruitful in any meaningful way.

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Ayden Clark
Ayden Clark

Then let me explain it to you. It means that just because I oppose Drumpf doesn't mean I am a liberal. On the contrary, I oppose Trump precisely because I am a conservative and Trump is a RINO.

Ryder Long
Ryder Long

muh migapede meme
You shareblue subhuman faggots love (((isreal))) just as much as drumpf does but pretend to hate (((them))) because orange man bad.
obligatory kys

Jonathan Walker
Jonathan Walker

/pol/ was a mistake

Landon Ortiz
Landon Ortiz

If you are not okay with the current status quo, you aren't a "conservative". If you are okay with the current status quo, you're a fucking leftist.

Josiah Roberts
Josiah Roberts

Trump tries to get border wall funding and the "rinos" you mentioned were part of the obstructionist's in congress. Orange man is a stupid boomer on guns but he's not a rino

Wyatt Turner
Wyatt Turner

Go on twatter and you'll see plenty of (((bergs))) (((steins))) and (((goldmans))) still screeching about racist nazi drumpf
opinion discarded

Adam Thompson
Adam Thompson

You have a valid point. I meant that I am a conservative in the sense that I wish to conserve the traditional liberties we have inherited form my ancestors.
Even without a physical wall, the executive branch has broad authority to restrict immigration. The Supreme Court held so in Trump vs. Hawaii. If he wanted to, he could legally shut down ALL immigration coming from the Rio Grande to Tierra del Fuego, and he could use the military to enforce it.
But of course. The more they screech, the more he concedes to them. He's a cuckservative.

Mason Cook
Mason Cook

The boogaloo has always been the answer. It's the only reason why (((politicians))) are scared of us

Camden Parker
Camden Parker

We are running out of time for that. We do not have the numerical strength, much less the logistical resources for that.

Ethan Reyes
Ethan Reyes

This literally sounds like it was written by a fucking bot

Cameron Jenkins
Cameron Jenkins

a peaceful resolution is unlikely

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Dominic Nelson
Dominic Nelson

His whole goal was stopping ILLEGAL immigration and every time he tries to get something done about it he's obstructed by either existing law, activist judges, rino's and dems. Sure he could bar legal immigration from said places but those people would still get here illegally through the porous mexican border. Then there would be the screeching from the left about his new rayycist policies.

Christopher Evans
Christopher Evans

No shit nigger are you a summer fag or something?

Jaxon Powell
Jaxon Powell

The gay energy is paliple. Get ready to get slotted

Benjamin Bennett
Benjamin Bennett

People are so dumb and I am so smart

Nicholas Price
Nicholas Price

I meant that I am a conservative in the sense that I wish to conserve the traditional liberties we have inherited form my ancestors.
You are a classical liberal. Don't get triggered by the word "liberal" just because leftists have hijacked it, and realize that men like Paine, Jefferson, and Bastiat were all very much "liberal".

Ethan Cox
Ethan Cox

White girls love Chinese cock

Henry Hernandez
Henry Hernandez

What are you talking about? If you're not using this current 'false sense of security' to stack as much as you can while you can (easily), you're crazy.

I've bought more guns and ammo in the last 2 years than I ever did before combined. Be safe and praise Jesus.

Brandon Smith
Brandon Smith

These tiny little setbacks are outrageous! We should be vote for complete gun confiscation instead
Retarded and not subtle. As natural of a poz-grown vegetable.

Austin Hill
Austin Hill

Oh hi, Ben Shapiro, I remember you making that argument before the election.

Asher Clark
Asher Clark

We do not have the numerical strength
that is untrue
otherwise (((they))) wouldn't lobby lawmakers and censor social media so much
they are afraid of our numbers, the only thing we lack is organization

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Ayden Watson
Ayden Watson

I've been to reddit and the communist/anti-gun subreddit has guidelines to call out anybody who comments on Trump's anti-gun policies as leftist to trick right-wing gun-owners to support him taking our guns away.

Gabriel Hall
Gabriel Hall

Gee, I wonder who's behind this post.
Fuck you Yankee, you fucking faggot
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Dylan Hall
Dylan Hall

Jow Forums needs flags and tags.

The amount of shilling that happens here is unacceptable.

Austin Gray
Austin Gray

Fuck Trump, because Supreme Court Justice Maura Healey would have been awesome!

Oliver Martin
Oliver Martin

Based Yankee Marshal telling 'em how it is.

Jace Murphy
Jace Murphy

You are a classical liberal
In that sense, yes, you are correct.
Remember that Hillary won the popular vote. Do you think those millions of Democratic voters are going to sit idly by during the boogaloo?
Flags and tags wouldn't bother me. I have nothing to hide.
The Republicans could have Borked her.

Kevin Martinez
Kevin Martinez

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Juan Price
Juan Price

I have nothing to hide.
You're dumb. Flags are bad for the same reason names and forum reputations are bad, in that they encourage posters to make snap decisions based on superficial characteristics as to whether or not to even consider the post to which the name/flag is attached. They breed a cliquish mentality that results in isolated echo chambers of people jerking each other off about how right they are and how wrong everybody else is.

Daniel Peterson
Daniel Peterson

This, this, this.

Luke Ward
Luke Ward

I have nothing to hide.
Whether or not you are a shill is debatable, regardless you are making a shill argument.
hello "fellow gun owners"
we totally should vote for the expressly anti-gun party

Remember that Hillary won the popular vote
Retarded statement. Trump too could have done better in the popular vote if the popular vote meant anything. Saying "hillary won the popular vote" is effectively saying "hillary had a fucking retarded ground game" she spent too much time rallying voters in Cali and Ny and not enough time rallying voters in essential states.

Get fucked you disingenuous cunt.

Ian Thomas
Ian Thomas

I think we as gun owners would be better off now if Hillary had won.

LOLOLOLOLOL no. Your gay is also showing. Tuck it in paid shill

Henry Rogers
Henry Rogers

Remember that Hillary won the popular vote.
She won the Marxist gay feminist vote. Not sure how popular they are though

James Russell
James Russell

we totally should vote for the expressly anti-gun party
Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said we should vote for Democrats. I said that if the Democrats had won the Presidency, the backlash against them would do us more good than Drumpf has.
The fact that Hillary won the popular vote does mean something. It means that freedom loving people are becoming a minority in America.

Landon Jenkins
Landon Jenkins

Ur a big gay bait that smell of fish

Juan Campbell
Juan Campbell

Stop putting words in my mouth
You implied that having a Democrat in the whitehouse and having two (3??) SCOTUS picks would be better.

You are either retarded, or a shill.

The fact that Hillary won the popular vote does mean something.
Yes, it means she had a fucking retarded ground game. Nothing more, nothing less.

Jaxon Bailey
Jaxon Bailey

She had the gay vote for gayness. How could she loose?

Christian Mitchell
Christian Mitchell

freedom loving people are becoming a minority in America.

Freedom loving people anywhere are not given freedom by some politician by charity. They take their freedom, hold it and would fight for it. HRC represented the big controlling nanny state in every way, and the democrats are the most anti gun collective in the USA and she was their anti gun candidate.

Jonathan Brooks
Jonathan Brooks

but you said u were a big gay?

David Edwards
David Edwards

All that is true, but taking your freedom by force is very difficult when you are a numerical minority.

Asher Rivera
Asher Rivera

You'd be used to that being a big gay

Isaac Stewart
Isaac Stewart

/arg/ in a nutshell

Austin Sullivan
Austin Sullivan

I don't even like Trump but this is some cringy shit.

Gabriel Cook
Gabriel Cook

You implied that having a Democrat in the whitehouse and having two (3??) SCOTUS picks would be better.
Do you know what Borking is? The president can't appoint justices without the consent of the Senate, and the Senate could have Borked Hillary's nominees.

More importantly, we DO have a Democrat in the Whitehouse. His name is Donald Trump. He's a Republican IN NAME ONLY. All his gun policies are the same as Hillary's.

Yes, it means she had a fucking retarded ground game. Nothing more, nothing less.
It means we're becoming a minority in America. To say otherwise is wishful thinking.

Ethan Clark
Ethan Clark

It's very difficult whenever, when those opposing your freedom hold power and most of your countrymen are too fat and happy to want something so dangerous as "liberty". Those who want freedom were a numerical minority even during the Revolutionary War. Most people just sat back and wondered who would win.

Ryder Thomas
Ryder Thomas

cowabunga when

Julian Bennett
Julian Bennett

This fucking shill.

Do you know what Borking is? The president can't appoint justices without the consent of the Senate, and the Senate could have Borked Hillary's nominees.

So your plan is that we get a worse stance on guns, no SCOTUS pics (for now) and nothing in return? Of course that is until the normies get mad at the senate for delaying on SCOTUS picks, dems flip the senate and we get 2 (3??) anti-gun SCOTUS picks?

fuck off.

James Wright
James Wright

we get 2 (3??) anti-gun SCOTUS picks?
Ah those "pro-gun" SCOTUS picks Trump gave us who banned bumpstocks? Who will now also ban silencers? Who will ban "high capacity assault magazines" (10+ round magazines) next year?

Owen Young
Owen Young

So your plan is that we get a worse stance on guns
Hillary's stance on guns is identical to Trump's, not worse.
Of course that is until the normies get mad at the senate for delaying on SCOTUS picks
Normies are not opposed to Borking. Nobody is opposed to Borking unless the other side is using it.
dems flip the senate
But they didn't flip the senate when they had their chance in '18.
and we get 2 (3??) anti-gun SCOTUS picks?
The Supreme Court hasn't done anything for us since 2010 anyway. If that changes, I'll eat my words, but until that day, I maintain that Trump's court nominees are just as anti-gun as he is.

Chase Rivera
Chase Rivera

To be fair, the Supreme Court didn't ban bumpstocks. They just neglected to do anything about it. Trump was the one who banned bumpstocks by reclassifying them as machineguns.

Jace Powell
Jace Powell

shareblue still trying I see

Benjamin Ward
Benjamin Ward

The only upside with Trump for gun ownership was adding two pro-gun dudes to SCOTUS. That's pretty big, yeah. Other than that, I guess with Hillary in office we might not have had a number of state legislatures and governors turn blue, endangering gun rights in those states. The Republicans would have had a better chance of keeping the House and gaining more Senate seats, too...So, it would have been status quo like under Obama, I think.

2020 Democrats are pretty weaksauce on the whole, but if they get the White House in 2024 while maintaining momentum in Congress and in state governments as a reaction to Trump, it's gonna suck the big asshole.

Justin Wright
Justin Wright

what are federal judges
Go back to sleep

Benjamin Turner
Benjamin Turner

Yep, forgot about those. Had too much sleep, actually.

Samuel Adams
Samuel Adams

They literally don't exist anymore, NPC.

Dylan Harris
Dylan Harris

anybody who disagrees with Trump's policies to ban bumpstocks and silencers is a democrat shill
Fuck off /pol/ you're taking our rights away so we'll fight you for them.

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Justin Turner
Justin Turner

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Christian Lewis
Christian Lewis

excommunicated
colluded
You have exposed yourself, liberal

Adam Stewart
Adam Stewart

None of these things has happened, read Trumps EO on bump stocks.

Hillary's stance on guns is identical to Trump's, not worse.
Shill. Hillary wanted to
- End open carry
- Pick Justices who would change SCOTUS rulings on the 2A
- Allow gun manufacturers to be sued by people killed with guns
- Enfranchise the UN small arms act, basically nuking private sales
- End internet sales
- Double sales tax on guns
- ***ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN****

Meanwhile, Trump banned bump stocks. WOW!

Yeah, totally the same and yeah we should totally vote for the party that is expressly anti-gun.

Fuck off with this bullshit, its insultingly transparent.

Brayden Brown
Brayden Brown

Not even /pol/ likes you fucking faggots anymore, go back where you came from.

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Oliver Lewis
Oliver Lewis

shills dont exist
We have all seen the grabs from your discord, tranny. Now go back to /pol/ and please stop shitting up Jow Forums. Its not going to work.

Jackson Mitchell
Jackson Mitchell

Maybe if I keep calling them trannies, they'll stop talking about all of the negative shit the president does

kek

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John Morris
John Morris

Ok, who are you going to vote for?

Kayden Fisher
Kayden Fisher

Media matters. Their docs got leaked a while back and it included making threads just like this on this exact board. "We're not telling you to vote for Biden, just stay home to protest Trump", "Democrats are better for gun rights than Republicans", etc.

Jack Jenkins
Jack Jenkins

Yeah yo mom calls me the fucking bot. Coz I'm like a machine

Andrew Gray
Andrew Gray

Trump bans our rights
two posts almost back to back shitting on hillary for no reason
Fuck off shill, back to /pol/ with your trump dick suckery
b-but hillary would have been better
THIS ISN'T ABOUT HILLARY YOU FUCKING POL TRUMP DICK RIDER THIS IS ABOUT HOW TRUMP IS (AS IN ACTUALLY DOING IT) SHITTING ON OUR RIGHTS AND WHENEVER WE TRY TO TALK ABOUT IT AND FORMULATE A PLAN ON FIXING IT YOU GUYS (WHO ARE BRAINDEAD NPC'S SHILLING FOR TRUMP EVERY SECOND YOU GOT) JUMP IN AND MAKE IT ABOUT HILLARY WHO LITERALLY DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE.

Xavier Wood
Xavier Wood

THIS ISN'T ABOUT HILLARY YOU FUCKING POL TRUMP DICK RIDER
I supported Trump in '16, but sometimes I think we as gun owners would be better off now if Hillary had won

Its literally what the thread is about

Nathaniel Kelly
Nathaniel Kelly

I don't vote in presidential elections, I live in upstate NY and my vote is meaningless. This "Who are you going to vote for" shit is a lame assed attempt by you guys to distract from the fact that the president is a fucking traitor.

Carter Roberts
Carter Roberts

So we shouldent vote for him?

Cameron Morales
Cameron Morales

If you love immigrants, believe in gun control and want to put Israel first, then you should definitely vote for him.

Cameron Rodriguez
Cameron Rodriguez

I live in upstate NY and my vote is meaningless.
Sad, but true.

Camden Nguyen
Camden Nguyen

Trump 2020, cause any democrat will be infinitely worse for gun rights.

Landon Lewis
Landon Lewis

That statement is meaningless /pol/ tier drivel.

But ok, so we should not vote for him, because of your subjective reasoning, and instead vote for the guys who are objectively pro-illegals, objectively anti-gun?

Bentley Foster
Bentley Foster

Worst case you die then why would you care?
Best case you get to reenact Rorke's Drift w/ an AR15 in Detroit.
I fail to see the downside.

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Thomas Rivera
Thomas Rivera

3pbp

Joseph Anderson
Joseph Anderson

No, you shouldn't. You should vote for somebody who actually cares about immigration, actually cares about gun rights, etc.

You keep presenting this as though it's a binary choice between this total son of a bitch and the democrats, which it is not. You are not arguing in good faith here, but I find that this is absolutely typical of the kinds of people who still manage to rationalize their support for Trump.

Blake Ross
Blake Ross

stating facts about our president is meaningless drivel
Lmaoooo

Carter Sanchez
Carter Sanchez

still not answering the question
Who should we vote for?

Nolan Green
Nolan Green

lmao what a fag

Dylan Fisher
Dylan Fisher

Nah it's definitely better to lose a little under someone like Trump than gambling whether or not you can hold the line under someone vehement as Hillary. We already know she'll break the law as much as possible to further her goals it'd have been really bad to have her at the helm. We still haven't lost nearly as much under Trump as under Obama and by now if Hilldawg had been elected we'd have an AWB.

Levi Johnson
Levi Johnson

You keep presenting this as though it's a binary choice between this total son of a bitch and the democrats, which it is not.

Dude seriously if you don't think we're in a bipartisan system you've got delusions of grandeur. Sucks but that's how it is.

Xavier Perry
Xavier Perry

Vermin Supreme. Unironically.

Justin Cook
Justin Cook

It is that way because you let it be that way. Take some responsibility for your own laziness.

The strength of the Constitution lies entirely in the determination of each citizen to defend it. Only if every single citizen feels duty bound to do his share in this defense are the constitutional rights secure.
— Albert Einstein

It’s easy for people to assume that the Bill of Rights will be, as somebody once called the Constitution, a machine that runs itself. I disagree. I think eternal vigilance is the price of keeping it in working order.
— Judge Lawrence Tribe

Carson Davis
Carson Davis

Well of course. But there's nothing you can do to shake it up within the bounds of the law. Both parties are too entrenched and have diehard supporters, you can't possibly drum up enough support for a third party to change that. It's been tried before and has failed.

Wyatt Miller
Wyatt Miller

So try again.

Ayden Reyes
Ayden Reyes

within the bounds of the law.
The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of it’s enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law, and no courts are bound to enforce it.
— 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256

Gavin Rivera
Gavin Rivera

I dunno. Not gonna agree or disagree with its point, but that last panel was pretty damn funny. Just the idea of somebody making a passionate argument in favor of shit eating gets me laughing.

Colton Turner
Colton Turner

Hillary wanted to do bad things
Yes, and Trump supports all those bad policies. The difference is that Trump is able to get away with it because people like you still vote for him even as he's stabbing you in the back. Trump betrayed your trust.
Yeah, totally the same and yeah we should totally vote for the party that is expressly anti-gun.
You voted for Trump. He IS expressly anti-gun.
my vote is meaningless
It's meaningless because you don't cast it. Turnout in most elections is only about 50-60%. If all the people who say "What difference does it make?" actually got off their asses to vote, it would be a landslide victory.
Trump is even worse for gun rights. A false friend is always worse than an overt enemy.
We still haven't lost nearly as much under Trump as under Obama
Yes, we have. Trump is far more anti-gun than Obama. Far more.

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