Just how bad is the Indian Military?

Wasnt it something about it combining the worst excesses of "made by the lowest bidder" and "design by state committee", such that their weapons are made by companies that never made weapons before, that combine numerous weapon features and designs haphazardly because the state mandates it, with parts made by furniture companies?

Like iirc the INSAS costs like $1000 a pop due to the absurd assbackwards labor, numerous companies involved, and amount of """custom riveting""" that goes in.

Probably. India is about the worst possible combination of 3rd world corruption, an underdeveloped and compartmentalized labor and industrial supply, and British bureaucracy.

designated shitting tank

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I think only the furniture is made by an actual furniture company but all the parts are made in separate factories and then forced together at a third location so that there is almost no parts interchangeability. There is also a massive amount of unnecessary complexity to increase costs.

Whats funny is China offered them their old ak clone surplus for like $100 a pop

Its unbelieveable but THAT is actually the extent of India pulling its shit together. India was pretty much Arab tier when it went independent

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You'd think that after the initial production issues are worked out meeting specs and tolerances at different factories wouldn't be an issue

what if chinese are using spy planets ?

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Indians tend to do exceedingly well socioeconomic-wise...outside India.

India as a country has pants on head retarded acquisition system that prioritizes getting the newest, shiniest equipment with zero thought of parts commonality, maintenance, or support.

On top of this you have an impoverished country with a very strict caste system reinforcing a Prussian top down government and military model combined with post WW2 British administration.

They are effectively Saudi Arabia tier minus the oil wealth supporting their acquisition.

i need that map

This is their air force.
>Also Designated Shitting Streets

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I wonder how bad the INSAS actually is, if all the stories about reliability or parts breaking are true. I would love to see a forgotten weapons review on the rifle but I don't know how feasible that is.

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> Indians tend to do exceedingly well socioeconomic-wise...outside India.

Brahmins do anyway. But even Nigerians can do well when they're the cherrypicked .001% and surrounded by whitoids.

They already went back to digging old AKs out and looking for a new rifle so you tell me

>Even their rifles are made of poo

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Designated shitting fleet

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>Brahmins do anyway.
Well, the Brahmins and the Jews think alike, don't they? Big noses, stinky brown flesh, claiming their the chosen people of their gods, satan worship. Yes sireee, mr brahmin is poo cousin of kike.
>Why mr. white man, I'm just a poor shitskin let me help you ! *Stinky whitey, I will help negores finish you off*.

Bob and Vagene. Indian Thirst is real.

>I would love to see a forgotten weapons review on the rifle
Ian would need to go to India for that, but I don't think him being gang-raped by the locals would be worth it.

fuck off, paki.
we are better than your chinese owners. quality> quantity

Yikes

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They've stomped the Pakis in every war, so there's that

you are welcome.

2nd

ok, ok, except INSAS rifle.

you americucks are just pissed we are buying rafaels from france and S400 from russia.
offer us something good (not F35), burger, and maybe we'll consider.

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>gang-raped by the locals
but Ian would not going to sweden

>they
Puneet, if you are going to lie, atleast try to make it believable

All your domestic equipment is shit, the Arjun, the Tejas, small arms, and ect.
Buy more French and Russian equipment, you will just make your logistics a bigger clusterfuck than it already is.

Better than pakistan, but not as bad as china

> domestic equipment is shit
not denying.
why do you think Modi started "Make in India"?
those deals are quite good for indian manufacturing industry.

>logistics a bigger clusterfuck
yet USA can't wait to get into India to wage a war against china
ndtv.com/india-news/india-and-us-agree-to-share-military-bases-your-10-point-guide-to-new-deal-1452191

kek

not too bad, i guess.

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>kicking the shit out of arabs
more efficient militarily than the whole NATO combined, apparently

by
>locals,
not
>le migrante

Arabs are easy to beat.

However, the same qualities that make them easy to win against are also the reasons that if your strategy involves them becoming self sufficient non-inbred mouthbreathers, you're fucked.

fuck, gimme 10 of those please mr.chang

underrated

Thats like saying you can beat up a 5 year old little girl if you have a pipe wrench and pcp....

Most fucking African nations could stomp the pakis.

but look at it this way - India is good enough that the chinese still haven't taken over them.
something, and not just poo, must be keeping the chinks away.

3rd

you mean at back?
t. pajeet near an airbase

well it's socialism
hopefully this may change
unless the gommies and corrupted fucks are usurped

ah, this things!
well, I saw Jupiter too and I thought it was a nova or some shit.
Does the planetary lights blink on high alt?
Or is this some stress induced hallucination like one in the generation kill?

pakis are not arabs

>Most fucking African nations could stomp the pakis
I do not think so
The Himalayas and sheer autism of mountain pajeets and nepalis

This. They are desndenats of Persian farmer and aryans

more like converted by the sword

>Himalayas
what is chinese navy?
i'm talking 21st century chinese military.

>autism of mountain pajeets and nepalis
god bless the gorkha

>i'm talking 21st century chinese military
ok then, there's still logistics problem and lack of bases. INF has some docking and refuelling rights in Singapore, Indonesia, Vietnam and they have a base in Pakistan. Also presence of diego garcia and othrer USN 5th fleet would keep them in check. INF would be lobbying AshMs on Chinese oil shipping if shit goes south.

*other USN 5th fleet in Singapore
heck USN would be invovled
It'll be a WWI scenario except a lot more bodies

fun fact!
Gorkhas were originally rajputs from rajputana area

>It'll be a WWI scenario except a lot more bodies
so you agree india has, even if just by luck, shit to keep any other "powerful" country's military away.

everyone else's lack of power also counts towards your power.

true.

technically speaking every caste and clan comes from war-faring groups who later on decided they'd rather settle down and make a living building and selling other shit.

This is how it goes down
1.India-side: India/USA/Singapore/Israel/Japan/Burma/Oman/Vietnam and other willing forces with reduced co-op
2.China-side: China/Pakistan/Iran/Nepal and whatnot

>poo fighters

>they'd rather settle down
they were defeated in long war between fellow rajputs and islamic forces and sought refuge in nepal valley. Current gorkhas are descendant from them.
their OG land was in the punjab delta.

Airshow in 2019, they are arcobatics

>USA
add NATO outside support to it. Trump's gonna strong-arm the entire white world so Aus-NZ as well.

>burma
i don't know. we aren't exactly best buds.

>iran
india is one of their biggest oil buyers.
iran would rather stay neutral.

>Nepal
probably not. maybe if china strong arms them?

everything else is right in your post.
but of course, there would never be a war. at least not in the near future. business trumps bloodlust.
but you never know how the chinese brain works.

i meant in the cave-men times, before clans started to settle down.
but yeah, your knowledge is correct.

remove the aussies, they are not to be trusted
They already scuttled Quadrilateral Dialogue between India, USA, Australia and Japan.
>you never know how the chinese brain works
A bug has only purpose of breeding and resource collection.
And in cavemen times they were literal steppeniggers in ukranian plains, so who knows?

>aussies, they are not to be trusted
USA will handle the whites

>A bug has only purpose of breeding and resource collection.
kek. aptly put.

superior Al-Khalid tank
has common parts with almost all the tanks in inventory
>not overweight
>can uses depleted uranium rounds
>can use sabot rounds which can penetrate all poo tanks even arjunk

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it's not about the car, it's about the driver.

fix spelling
Also, is it a chinese type-90II upgrade?

Not him, but the Arjun is incredibly mediocre in every metric possible. Hell, the 120mm ammunition only has 300mm of RHA penetration at 2km.

Only 1/3 out of 1/3 shit on Tanks?

>the Arjun is incredibly mediocre in every metric possible
i know and i'm ashamed.
thank god for capitalism, though.

also, we crushed pakistan's emphatically superior tech in all wars up until 1999 kargil war.
i'm glad we are buying the best tech now.

>i know and i'm ashamed
It's really a shame that your countrymen ignore the problems, and consume propaganda that leads them to think that the Arjun is the best tank in the world.
>i'm glad we are buying the best tech now
That's very debatable.

>consume propaganda
almost all of us in the world do, but still many thinks arjun is subpar wrt T-90 or Abrhams-2 or other NATO MBTs. Liberal idiots generally gather around normie sites to get props and glowing koolaid.
>That's very debatable
So, aren't US and Isreali tech superior to others?
99% of us don't even know this site exists.

>consume propaganda that leads them to think that the Arjun is the best tank in the world
not in the era of super-cheap internet.
of course, corruption makes sure we don't buy the objectively best tech but a hopefully comparable alternative.

>debatable
i mean, the french think rafael is the best plane, americans think F35 is.
we have never seen both of them engage in a dog fight yet.

russia says s400 is the best defense system. usa wants india to not buy it, but refuse to offer a "better" alternative.

kek

in late 90s pak and china decided to co develop a tank which would be further used as a baseline to further develop tanks
china developed it into type-96
while Pakistan developed it into al-khalid
type-96 might seem a better tank but Al-khalid has overall better Armour,has a Ukrainian engine,uses same transmission system as leclerc, better NV system and a better gun

Layers and layers of bait

How much is that lego set?

3 fiddies

I can smell the curry from your unwiped ass

>falling for the bait!

>Trump's gonna strong-arm the entire white world so Aus-NZ as well.
He wouldn't need to. Right now the politicians are chasing profits from selling china resources, but even they're aware that the only thing standing between Australia and Chinese annexation is the American navy.

the resource curse is real

Yeah, but it's more like our country being pretty much fucked once china's housing and infrastructure bubble pops, rather than actually being in danger of being physically invaded.

If that bubble pops, there will be a 3 year recession, what effect is on India or USA or any other country?

Not needing toilet facilities in the field would be an advantage in combat

How about strategically? When your entire garrison is riddled with sickness because they lack proper sanitation.

It'll only matter to countries and companies that sell stuff to china, which is fewer and fewer groups given the recent trade war and china's push to cut out imported raw materials and goods. All their corporations that have exploded over the last 10 years due to their near monopolies on the chinese market will go belly up though.
Also it's going to be much worse than a 3 year recession; the local governments have basically leveraged most of the Chinese public's savings into infrastructure construction loans, while the rest has gone into the phantom housing boom, that the CCP has been propping up by suppressing information about how bad the housing market has been doing in the last two years. So in the next five years or so, all the new money mum and pop investors in china are about to find out that they're flat broke with nothing but crumbling bridges and ghost towns to show for it and all hell will break loose.

The real danger for the rest of the world would be if the CCP gets shaky enough to start looking for a hot external conflict to focus public attention on. And border conflict with India would be a good starting point.

Not much,

fuck!
Well Lads, time to put some oil in my swords, since I live in the frontlines :)

>entire garrison
>lack proper sanitation.
you don't REALLY believe in the memes, do you?

Can't wait to see Yellow Turban Rebellion 2.0 after the peasants judge the Communist Party of losing the mandate of heaven.