1911 buying guide?

You're a retard. The 1911 was used by two generations of Americans before the first Boomer was even born.

What's wrong with newer Springfield GIs?

Those generations are dead, moron. Which leaves you draft dodging old farts as the ones we have to deal with currently. If you're over the age of 30 and on Jow Forums you really need to kys. Imagine being on a meme anime board for young men in your 30s, shouldn't you have a family or something by now?

Auto ordnance is considered high tier production class? Really? They're decent but I thought they were on par with ria not with colt

PSA has a decent GI style Springfield on sale for $499 right now.

palmettostatearmory.com/springfield-1911-defender-45-acp-5-pistol.html

>*sips*
goddamn right brother

Are the CMP 1911s out yet, and are they worth whatever they're charging?

I have an XSE steel frame and the trigger is actually pretty decent but it does add an unnecessary extra few parts.

And at least two generations since the Boomers have continued to use the 1911. The 1911 is not a Boomer gun. It wasn't when it was invented, and it isn't now.

Careful with that edge, sperglord. Might cut yourself on it.

>imagine gatekeeping a meme anime board from *them*
>shouldn't you have an anime pillow or dragon dildo to lay with

>Colt Custom
Isn't that the M45A1?

Its an outdated gun responsible for more NG than your mom wrapping her legs around me before I nut

Everyone knows Glock is best

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Based and redpilled

It looks gay as fuck.

Fucking retards. Usp compact is the modern version of the 1911. Has cocked and locked feature but a decocker so you don't put a hole in moms floor

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Wait, not every modern Colt is an 80, is it? I think the Competition is a 70.

They don't make them anymore.

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The latest issue of Guns and Ammo has a "1911 Roundup" of mil-spec models of the 1911. While I'd add a few offerings out there (no Auto Ordinance or RIA), it was a decent article if too brief.

>Everyone knows Glock is best

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Dan Wesson A2

I'll eat my hat the day that Glock makes anything other than slight variations of the same pistol they've been making since the 80s.

I get that Filipino guns are usually trash, but I'm pretty certain I heard that RIA makes more 1911s than any other manufacturer and they're better than typical fudd brands like Remington, Kimber and Nighthawk or whatever.

Are the 9mm 1911s still single stack? What's the highest cap I could get a 1911 in?

What about the mil spec? Is it any good?

Doublestack 1911s are called 2011s, Remington and RIA make budget ones.

STI and various other makers make pricey ones.

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Has anyone heard anything about fusion firearms? I've seen the name thrown around here and there

>What's the highest cap I could get a 1911 in?

Doublestack 9mm 2011s have flush fit capacity of between 15 and 20 rounds.

Except for crap churned out by Freedom Group companies, 1911's are now made with far better tolerances than the Colt originals due to CNC machining. I've shot a few of the RIA 1911s and they were great considering the price.

Not every part in a 1911 is CNC. Extractors, for example, still have to be tuned sometimes, and triggers still have to be polished.

>What's the highest cap I could get a 1911 in?

There's drum mags and extended mags for a standard 1911, up to 50 rounds, I think. I use Chip McCormick 10 round mags exclusively in my .45.

True. Almost every auto loading pistol gets a few parts changed out or polished/modified to get them just right.

Springfield TRP owner here. It's by far my favorite handgun to shoot, even over my glock 17 that I've gucci'd out. The only problem is that it's finicky with which mags it takes; it doesn't accept the Wilson combat 8 round mags in it, for whatever reason the magazine doesn't seat when loaded to capacity, only works with 7 in the mag.
One thing that also took some getting used to in regards to the TRP is that the front stippling is very abrasive on my bitch made hands. Unfortunately I made the terrible decision to go to college, put myself in massive debt then have extreme difficulty finding gainful employment only to settle on a job way below my education level in which I'm on the computer all day. I have 0 calluses on my hands as a result; the stippling hurt my hands the first few times I took it to the range and shot it. If I joined a trade out of high school and became a welder, plumber, or even a damn elevator installation specialist I'd have hands with +15 damage resistance and I'd probably be running my own company at this point making x4 what I make now while working 1/2 as many hours.

If glock did a limited edition run of these I'm willing to bet they'd later resell on gunbroker for $5,000 each. Lord knows I'd fucking buy one in a damn heartbeat

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They are all modern trash made with the tolerances way too tight for the design.

>If glock did a limited edition run of these I'm willing to bet they'd later resell on gunbroker for $5,000 each. Lord knows I'd fucking buy one in a damn heartbeat
I'd buy one just to piss off my friends that own Glocks. I dislike the Glock grip angle and the stock sights and triggers, but I do grudgingly admit that they are fairly accurate and reliable. I think my biggest problem with Glocks is that they're overpriced for what they are and they stopped innovating; they just make the same gun with few changes other than sizes and calibers.

>They are all modern trash made with the tolerances way too tight for the design.
lmfao! Uh, ok, noguns.

You're the noguns here. The ww1 and ww2 1911s had loose tolerances and were a lot more reliable than the tight tolerance light trigger bitch 1911s of today. Browning did not design the 1911 for competition and a super light trigger. It was designed as a fighting gun. The 1911 poor reliability meme comes from modern 1911s which are designed for range faggot söyboys not men who might actually have to use them

>The ww1 and ww2 1911s had loose tolerances
That's just Fuddlore. Prove me wrong.

No & no

fuddest shit I ever heard

But this is literally true.

>The ww1 and ww2 1911s had loose tolerances and were a lot more reliable than the tight tolerance light trigger bitch 1911s of today.
LMFAO!!!!!! More manufacturers THROUGHOUT THE WORLD are making 1911s than ever! Sig, S&W, Ruger, Colt, CZ (Dan Wesson), Auto Ordinance, RIA and dozens more 1911s are "Unreliable"? That's big fucking news to the shooting world, noguns fucking retard. Go back to your airsoft, pathetic fool.

I own one. My grandfather's he used in WWII and Korea, manufactured 1943. The slide is super easy to pull and if you shake it you can hear it rattle a little. Great gun but definitely made with looser tolerances.

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> RIA better than typical fudd brands like Remington, Kimber and Nighthawk
HELL NO
better for the price is arguable but but you cant even get a nighthawk with ria money
the thing about them prodcing the largest number of 1911s a year is true. which makes sense considering its $400 vs 700-1000 for better brands.

>My grandfather's he used in WWII and Korea, manufactured 1943.
The Army or USMC issued him the same gun in two wars?

Um, OK.

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Yes.
They're excellent

Army, he was an officer so he got to keep his gun. He had two, my uncle has the other one.

AO is a bit above RIA because it has slightly better fit and a forged slide. RIA has cast slide and frame.

You're spewing fuddlore.
You dont own a 1911.

What about Para? Never see them get mentioned anywhere but a local range has a Para 1911 of some kind for sale. Looks decent enough and not very costly, certainly not dirt cheap though compared to other brands.

>Army, he was an officer so he got to keep his gun. He had two, my uncle has the other one.
My Grandfather was an officer in WW2 and Korea in the Marines. He brought back a 1911 that was "off the books" but you don't get fucking issued a firearm for life in the military, dipshit.

Yes and it depends.

I mean, I’d rather spend the

Hard to find reliable magazines is the biggest issue I've heard of. Never shot one, but a few owners I've talked to like them.

Look faggot, he was issued two M1911s by the Army they both say US government property on them and he served in WWII and Korea.

Shove your semantics up your ass you contrarian fuck stain.

>Hard to find reliable magazines is the biggest issue I've heard of.
I went to the Para website. On the home page of it, if you hover over their "firearms" section it pops up a list. Bottom of it says 2014 catalog.

Is this company even still active? Is that why finding mags is hard?

Anons I want to get a Les Baer (probably a premier II). Are they worth the money?

>two M1911s by the Army they both say US government property on them and he served in WWII and Korea.
LMFAO, TWO? One from WW2 and one from Korea? OK, Your gramps swiped guns from 2 wars, I could believe that. He didn't carry the same gun from WW2 and Korea. You're still a back-peddling tard, though.

He lied to you.

what are some good 1911s for carry that wont rust too easily? I have a remington 1911 but im constantly fighting with it to not get spots of rust so its become a range toy. I usually just carry glocks so would a polymer framed 1911 be better then steel?

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Dan Wesson a2.

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What about the ww2 1911s, did those have forged frames and slides, or just forged slide?

stainless steel gun
a poly 1911 wont help since the slide will still rust

It was fun while it lasted

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I put this one together using an AO frame and parts.

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>what are some good 1911s for carry that wont rust too easily?
I've carried a variety of blued and parkerized guns for years, and NEVER had any sort of rust issue, but I regularly clean and oil my guns and wipe them down with lightly oiled rag. Fingerprints will rust bluing, so wipe off your gear if you fingerfuck your hardware. On exposed steel parts (and in the barrel) I make sure they have a fine sheen of oil protecting them. However, I live in Arizona, and Jow Forumsomandos who live in swamp country might have different issues than me.

I know, wrong trigger and grip safety. It fits me.

>he doesn't sensuously rub his guns in oil, wipe and store.
sounds like some gay shit to me

>What about the ww2 1911s, did those have forged frames and slides, or just forged slide?
There were dozens of manufactures of 1911s during WW2, including Rockola, Ford Motors, and Singer Sewing Machines making either parts or the whole gun, and it would be almost impossible to determine exactly how each part was made at this point.

Can vouch for the Ruger as an excellent entry level choice

>Yes, they are out.
>There's a 2 year waiting list since they received an 17,000 orders in the window they accepted them for the time being
>Congress only can transfer 10000 pistols per year
>They are worth it if you like a genuine historical piece
>Most service grade condition mix matched USGI 1911's run about $1200-$1500.
>CMP's are $1000
>For some reason people are upset or feel entitled to getting a finite, historical milsurp pistol for $400 because that's what a new Rock island costs.
>Same people don't bat an eye at why a mix match k98 costs 3 times as much as a Savage Axis or other new Mauser action bolt guns.

One with a finish meant specifically for duty carry. Examples would be the Armor Kote from Springfield, the Duty Treat from Dan Wesson, or the Armor Tuff from Wilson Combat.

If you're on a really tight budget get the SR1911. If you can save up a few more good boy points and get another $100 together, get the Colt Competition Series. They are basically the same pistol as far as features go but the Colt competition has the advantage of being made off forgings (whereas ruger is cast) and has a national match barrel included. for $100 more those features are well worth the upgrade imo.

>Can vouch for the Ruger as an excellent entry level choice
2nd this, plus Ruger's customers service is outstanding. I had an old school Ruger Bearcat .22 revolver (30-40 years old?) that was given to me with a timing issue. I sent it to Ruger and they sent it back looking like a new gun a couple weeks later. Me and my friends ran 500 rounds through it-- it shot sweet and would make a fist-sized hole at 50 feet.

>get the Colt Competition Series.
I'm not looking for an argument, but I will never, ever buy another Colt product ever again. The Colt factory has been churning out hot garbage since the 1980's. Many of their recent products have been farmed out to other manufacturers, and they're just selling their name to collectors for profit.

I don't think thats fair to say everything Colt has made in 30 years has been bad. Ever since the mid 90's Colt has been getting better with their QC. The new (as in starting production again in the early 2000's) Series 70 pistols have been pretty well received among the general populus. If people have complaints it's mostly minor cosmetic flaws since they are still polished and fit by hand in custom shop.

And the only products they've outsourced outside of their Hartford plant are the expanse AR's and their rebranded ammunition they import from Russia.

t. noguns

>And the only products they've outsourced outside of their Hartford plant are the expanse AR's and their rebranded ammunition they import from Russia.
Look up their snubby .38s and the .380acp pocket pistols, retard.

>Everyone knows Glock is the best

Imagine being this gay

>The new (as in starting production again in the early 2000's) Series 70 pistols have been pretty well received among the general populus.
My problem with Colt was buying a NIB series 70 1911. Fucking thing shot a pattern OFF TARGET at 25 feet. Four other shooters couldn't print, either. Took it to a gunsmith, he told me to return it or he could repair it for about the purchase price. I took it back to the lgs, and they returned it to Colt. Colt sent it back a month later-- no repairs-- with a letter stating "it was within specs." Since my lgs knew one of the other shooters who tried it, they took it back and gave me full credit for anything in the shop. Fuck Colt, they suck HARD.

Im not sure on the new cobra, I've never seen one in person but the .380 pistols, the mustang and the pocketlite are both rollmarked Hartford, CT

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DW discontinued the whole Valor line, unfortunately.

Sounds like you got a lemon. I've shot 5 or 6 different colts before and none of them have been any better or worse than other full size. Even the cheapy 1991 was pretty good. My competition series can hit a 6 inch gong at 25 yards all day.

Looking for a stainless Series 70 Government, I loved how the one I rented from a local range handled. Damn shame they're not very common

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the sig modernized version of the 1911 design is pretty nice. the changes they made simplify the design, in the right way imo.

the mousegun version, the p238 is really sweet. I liked at the colt .380, but the sights were shit, so went with the p238 instead. the 938 is also quite nice.

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>Im not sure on the new cobra,
It's made by Charter Arms.
The .380 1908 "pocket Pistol" reproductions are made by some other company as well.

They're fucking trash. Bad finish, terrible fit, sideplates don't come close to lining up, rough triggers, machine marks on exterior surfaces.

>Sounds like you got a lemon.
Indeed, I got a lemon, but the factory refusing to correct the issues was unacceptable. Again, Fuck Colt,

Even I'm gay, but I still know that Glock is middle of the road.

>look it up
>RIA makes doublestack 10mm 1911s that weigh near 3 fucking pounds
How did the flips out-burger the burgers

I'm looking at a bunch of them for $900-1,300 on gunbroker right now.