What plane Switzerland is gonna buy?

Frrance will probably offer them to join the FCAS project if they buy them, and since Switzerland is 50% French 50% German, they will go with the Rafales

>Something the F-35 is not
Wrong.

The F-35 is fine for their needs. It’s an order of magnitude more capable than the other options they’re considering.

Given that being carrier capable isn't obviously a requirement, and as you said the F-35 isn't really needed I would probably get the Eurofighter

Possible every plane but nothing from EU. After getting blackmailed with gunlaws they´re going with F35

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>Eurofighter
>Less capable than the F-35
>More expensive than the F-35

The F-35 is an offensive plane
Switzerland need a plane that can be good to defend the territory, and manoeuvrable to fly through mountains
So i think the fact of buying a bunch of F-35 for a country like Switzerland or even Belgium is nonsensical

>France is near Switzerland so a contract of training in France is possible

It's also bordering Germany and Italy who operate typhoon.

There are three versions of the Rafale
- Rafale C : Single seater plane
- Rafale B : Two seater plane
- Rafale M(arine) : Single seater and carrier capable
So the Swiss will certainly not buy the Rafale M

It's true

Why SAAB just can't into any competition lately?

Slovakia will be getting F-16s. Bulgaria is also likely to be getting F16s instead.
India might be getting their own F-21s. Swiss WANTED the Gripen, SAAB hasn't it ready in time (No, you can't do flyoffs for NG with C/D). There was also Austria, but the party that actually wanted the Gripen just got kicked out of the government. And Botswana won't really help to improve their credit much.

Swiss don't need planes. Who would attack them?!
They should get rid of them like they got rid of their guns.

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It’s because modern F-16s don’t cost that much more but provide significantly better capabilities for those who can afford them. There’s not much of a market niche for a super low end fighter to occupy these days.

Don't give them ideas, this shit is why Gripen didn't won in 2014.

Swiss rejected the Gripen by referundum in 2014
And Armasuisse found the Gripen garbage

>F-35
>in charge of intercepting anything

>best radar
>best electro optical
>longer legs than God
I dunno sounds g2g

>Still trotting out a long out of date comparison that was never a comparison in the first place

There's definitely some very shaky stuff going on with the Gripen removal, this wasn't on Saab. Switzerland basically changed the rules to exclude them. (ie - Were mandated and chosen to have dates of restriction just a couple short of when they knew Gripen's would be.)

It's very likely because they're afraid of political backlash from the referendum before.

>rafail

Swiss rejected ANY replacement in 2014. As in
>sell the F-5s, and use drones, lol.
And Gripen got booted, because they wanted to skip flyoffs, or went through with different model. Of course Armasuisse sent them home. But they couldn't find Gripen garbage, because they simply didn't got the chance to test it.

Gripen was a no-go from the start due to the referendum, hence the rules fuckery tailor made to exclude them.
The Rafale is less capable and more than twice as expensive as the F-35, so that one is out as well.
It will be the F-35, especially now when the russians are resuming the nigger act, staying in the good graces of the US is important even if you are ostensibly neutral.

I don't think Russia would ever do something against Switzerland, especially because a good portion of Putin's dirty money is probably in some bank in Geneve

Don’t expect a nigger to act rational.
All it takes is a chimp out and russians are notorious niggers on the world stage.

which ever aviation company is illuminati

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>fly through mountains

cute

They are gonna buy the F-35 and it will be the biggest money laundering so far. RUAG already manufactured bomb bay components and was tasked some years back by parlament to collect knowledge on the F35. Lots of money will be wasted and we will get it after everyone else get their scrap metal delivery in like 2045.

>The Rafale is less capable and more than twice as expensive as the F-35, so that one is out as well.

Switzerland wants a piece of the FCAS cake so they gonna buy Eurofighters.

>F-18 Super Hornet
lol
>Eurofighter
Shit and twice as expensive as F-35
>Rafale
Twice as expensive as an F-35 with less capabilities

It's going to be the F-35.

trying to hard

>illuminati
Definitely an Eurotriangle then

>Switzerland wants a piece of the FCAS cake
Source? They aren't even in the EU

This is not relevant.

Also, why would they want a 6th gen that’s not gonna be flying till 2040 at least?

They wouldn't be buying it now

So why would they bother buying more expensive, less capable aircraft then the F-35 as a stop gap?

There is a massive economic interest to be involved into a 6th developement.

Because it could mean they would get access to the FCAS development, included in the package

Isn't the US expecting to get theirs out for 35?

Because they are better and cheaper than the F-35

The USA operates within a not public made time frame.

Pretty sure they said 35, but whatever.

It's the truth, though. The F-35A is less expensive and more capable than both the Eurofighter and the Rafale.

Anyway, I look forward towards your guys tears when they choose the F-35.

>till 2040 at least?
Supposedly it should be 2035-2040, with a technology demonstrator flight in 2026

>if I claim things often enough they will become true!

The F-35 can't climb, supercruise nor does it have a meaningful supersonic performance.

Switzerland needs an interceptor, so it can only be one of the Eurocanards. It's more the question which country has the better lobbyists

It's cute how you don't even pretend to have an argument, but please keep it coming. It will make you getting BTFO in the end even sweeter.

>I'm just claiming things
>you you don't have any arguments!

4.5 gens came too late to the game. Rafale is capable but it’s nowhere near worth the price tag.

Imagine being a Lockheed shill!

The Eurofighter is neither of those things, user.

F15s would be better than eurojets. No matter how you break it down the rafale is not worth the money.

tell that switzerland

They can do whatever they want. No one actually cares about Switzerland. The F35 selling hundreds of planes causes a lot of butthurt. A lot of us are here just to witness foreign tears.

The F-35 is a full fledged 5th gen multirole fighter with numerous improvements over even the previous generation, touting both strong ground and air capabilities. Some of the highlights could by its native EW suite, low observability, latest secure data links (especially directional), reconnaissance capabilities, and advanced IRST. The F-35 also has considerable internal fuel capacity - more than the hornet with two external tanks, low-profile external tanks are also in development for the F-35. Due to multi-national origins it is being cleared to handle a plethora of munitions. It will have continued platform support well into the end of the century as it's also being adopted by the largest military in the world among numerous other nations. The F-35A (the Swiss most likely choice) is also less expensive than either the Rafale or Eurofighter, the two aforementioned now pushing $120 million. The F-35A on the other hand $85 million respectively.

Happy now, retard?

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Buying crapale.
Costs just as much as a F-35.
No stealth.
What a piece of junk.

>that was never a comparison in the first place

So?

SAR reports the F-35A's PAUC at being just over 80 million USD and CPFH just under 30k USD/hr
the eurofighter and rafale go for over 120 million USD PAUC at the cheapest and you can estimate their CPFH numbers to be at least 40k based on the fact they're twin engine
the super hornet is the cheapest offering but only by ~10mn USD PAUC and 5k USD CPFH, so it's really tossup as to whether or not the swiss value VLO capability

Good job user, you copied what the Lockheed website said
The thing is nobody wants this shit, nearly every country that bought this lemon is upset about it, look at Japan or Belgium. Plus every thing you said the Rafale got it
Even a bunch of F-16A Block 20 would be a better choice

>The thing is nobody wants this shit, nearly every country that bought this lemon is upset about it,
Back that up with some verifiable sources, and we will stop laughing at you.

>nearly every country that bought this lemon is upset about it
Meanwhile in the real world everyone begs to buy them and the Frogs have to beg pajeets and oil sheikhs to order their second-rate 80's tier fighterjet

last luftwaffe commander got "early retirement" because he was talking about how badly the F-35 kicks the shit out of the eurofighter

Embarrassing, you really do have no argument.

>A better choice
You dont seem to know the condition that the EPAF F16's are in, Base maintenance on these old jets is not a fucking joke, not to mention the lack of spareparts that are starting to increase.

This. The F-35 is so much cheaper than the Wuropean offerings while providing superior capabilities. Even if they don’t need a 5th gen for their current Air Force, they tend to operate planes for a long time, and some futureproofing is a good thing.

>lemon
God dammit Pierre!

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