How run down is the Belgian military?
Is it worth joining?
How is the public sentiment towards it?
How long do you have to enlist as NCO or officer?
How hard is getting through the selection process?
Kraut here who lives just a few kilometers from the belgian border and considers joining it (the belgian military accepts EU citizens) instead of the ruin called Bundeswehr.
Belgische Defensie/La Défense Belge/Belgische Streitkräfte
Thomas Lee
Ian Edwards
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Thomas Ward
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Gabriel Nelson
Wait - Belgium has a military?
William Cruz
The ones I worked with maintained their F-16s cool guys.
Logan Brown
I don't know the ins and outs of it completely as a burger however from across the pond Belgium seems like a better army than the Bundeswehr. Primarily in equipment and benefits, again outside looking in. I will say though that jigsaw is superior to flecktarn and that's coming from an owner of both
Dominic Martin
reminder that Belgium doesn't even exist.
Jaxson Harris
I had Burger King with a Belgian infantryman in Bavaria. He was a cool dude. Showed me all the chick soldiers from the states he fucked and showed me some awesome spot to go when I went to Munich. Best summer deployment I ever had.
Parker Cooper
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Jonathan Scott
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John Myers
>ruin called Bundeswehr
Wants to join the literal worst armed forces in NATO. kek.
Zachary Campbell
>How run down is the Belgian military?
Almost as bad as the German army.
They spend big money on politically driven prestige projects (like buying F35s), but fail to maintain the core infrastructure. You'll often see soldiers running around with gear with desert camo, because they got it for Afghanistan, but never got the same gear to use in Belgium with jigsaw. So they mix & match.
The army's average age is also pretty old. They need new blood, or soon all the boomers will be retiring and half the army will be gone. On the other hand, that means that if you join up, there's more career possibilities since the older guys are fucking off.
Recruitment remains an issue, especially for "specialized" troops with high mental & physical requirements, like paracommandos.
>Is it worth joining?
No one can tell you that. That's a highly personal question and depends on your motivation to join. And on what you're expecting to find there.
>How is the public sentiment towards it?
The common folk don't really have an opinion about the armed forces. They're "liked" well enough, but in general they won't be thinking about you at all.
>How long do you have to enlist as NCO or officer?
No clue, check mil.be.
>How hard is getting through the selection process?
Not hard if you prepare a bit and don't have any pre-existing health issues. Obviously don't use any drugs, because you'll need to do a drug test. If you smoke weed, be sure to stop a LONG time before going through selection.
Carson Thomas
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Blake Jenkins
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Hunter Fisher
>How run down is the Belgian military?
The main problems are the lack of budget and recruitment issues, some would say that the high command is full of anti-Walloon Flemish officers.
>Is it worth joining?
It depends on what you want to do in the army, if you know the system, there are plenty of opportunities (e.g : working in shift, earn some degrees, ...).
>How is the public sentiment towards it ?
Some North African minorities don't like us.
Former far-left friends from the university cut off contact with me.
>How long do you have to enlist as NCO or officer?
What do you mean ? The age limit ?
>How hard is getting through the selection process?
Be a good runner, be self-confident, don't lie to the psy, know the job which you are applying and why you want it.
Shit, I've been in this room before.
Cameron Jones
>anti-Walloon Flemish officers.
Based
Carter Nelson
Are you ready to die defending the Westvleteren brewery- er... I mean... monastery, if required? And Circuit Spa-Francorchamps as a secondary concern?
John Kelly
Are we going to be invaded ?
Nathan Nelson
I don't know, I'm just trying to ensure the best bits of Belgium are adequately protected else I'll come help and you guys can pay me in Westvleteren XII and their gouda
William Hill
>Westvleteren XII
Just switch to St Bernardus 12, it's basically the same thing and I've only met few people who could consistently tell the difference in a blind tasting.
Alexander Diaz
>it's basically the same thing and I've only met few people who could consistently tell the difference in a blind tasting.
Well I guess I'm one of the few then, but I do adore St Bernie - especially as it's actually obtainable down here in Australia whereas Westy XII I have to bring in with my duty free allowance. Still not as nice as drinking it in the beer garden at In Der Vrede among the hop fields though lol.
Sebastian Price
You can taste plenty of Belgian beers at the Belgian Beer Cafe Heritage in Sidney.
Andrew Carter
Their range is pretty good - same with the Brissy and Adelaide ones - but a) Australia is bigger than Sydney, and b) by fuck they're expensive. I have an importer that keeps me supplied with Abt.12, Straffe Hendrik and a few others I like to keep handy, but otherwise I just wait patiently for my annual trip to Europe and then go a bit silly in your supermarkets.
Wyatt Martinez
belgian fag here
>How run down is the Belgian military?
What rules us now is a soft-headed, mushy, egalitarian, feminine sort of altruism where we are more inclined to feed the starving picannnies of Africa than to take acount of the fact that every picaninny who doesn't starve to death now will grow up to breed more picaninnies.
>Is it worth joining?
you will be bored except for the morning cardio + beerboarding the afternoon or on the 21st of July under a pouring rain.
>How is the public sentiment towards it?
They don't gives a shit, even the Queen Mathilde as to involved in mine-clearing propaganda to give a good image of it.
>How long do you have to enlist as NCO or officer?
no idea it's full of boot lickers and long term fags
>How hard is getting through the selection process?
Wash your teeth goy and praise europe goy!
>Kraut here who lives just a few kilometers from the belgian border and considers joining it (the belgian military accepts EU citizens) instead of the ruin called Bundeswehr.
It's your choice but you will be as disappointed as I was few years ago, at least you guys trained with most of the special forces around the western world.
Ryder Barnes
>The main problems are the lack of budget and recruitment issues, some would say that the high command is full of anti-Walloon Flemish officers.
I've heard from a flemish guy from the military that they received an order which consisted in: 1) Expel the walloons from the army 2) protect Jewish buildings/institutions/whatever at all cost
Anyone has heard anything about that?
Robert Howard
Well, aren't you a little gullible idiot...
Kayden Martin
never said I believed it moron, the expel the walloons part I've heard more than once though
Lucas Brown
No fucking clue, you won't find many Belgians here I reckon.
Nicholas Foster
>1) Expel the walloons from the army
Kek, from what I know they don't like sandniggers and some big socialist bastion in wallonia like Mons are infested.
>2) protect Jewish buildings/institutions/whatever at all cost
I can't tell about that but belgium's kike are irrelevant apart from the diamond industry taxes, sure they are targeted both by vlaams belang and shitskins but who cares.
Jonathan Cruz
Nathan Torres
>anti-Walloon Flemish officers
Fucking based
Lucas Sanders
>How long do you have to enlist as NCO or officer?
>What do you mean ? The age limit ?
I rather meant the minimum enlistment time if you join as NCO or officer.
I don't know where else to ask.
Julian Cook
There's always this one cunt who thinks he's hilarious
Dylan Sullivan
>That pic
A classic
Nathaniel Thomas
Maybe Jow Forums might have an answer? Jow Forums is mostly US oriented and most of our knowledge on foreign powers is how shit they are. Granted Jow Forums is the furthest thing from what I'd call a reliable wellspring of knowledge
Colton Brooks
Lol hipster faggot
John Gomez
There's a reason many leave to become mercenaries around the world.
David James
>I rather meant the minimum enlistment time if you join as NCO or officer.
5 years after their graduation, for the officers IIRC.
For the NCO, that's another story
Hudson Richardson
>For the NCO, that's another story
How exactly does the NCO track work in Belgium?
Andrew Phillips
Krijgen buitenlanders rare blikken in het leger?
Nolan Turner
Hipster like fuck, you commo faggot. If you're from out of Belgium and can't enjoy their best industry, you're a narrow-minded cunt. If you're Belgian and you can't embrace your best export, you're a sad cunt.
Anthony Lopez
There's actually a lot of belgians on here in relation to our small population but i don't think theres a lot of people actually interested in joining the military but im just making assumptions
Eli Gomez
>How exactly does the NCO track work in Belgium?
Enlisted to NCO is not the common track.
You have 3 tracks you can get into immediately: enlisted, NCO & officer. All have their own schools (though the basic concepts overlaps for all three). But in Belgium, you can have an NCO fresh out of boot, with zero experience.
Jason Lopez
Either you spend a year to the Saffraanberg Royal school and then you go to your allocated unit for your specialized training (on an internship) and you will be appointed three years after your enlistment or either you're already a soldier (volunteer) and you follow the social advancement courses during 6 months in Saff' in order to be promoted as a sergeant.
With the exception of the mechanics, specialists and other non-combat positions, the NCOs (medics, infantry, paracommando, recce, ...) are recruited on the basis of a 5 years fixed-term contract.
Ian Young
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Cooper Bennett
Are they very selective when choosing NCOs?
Gabriel Turner
>Are they very selective when choosing NCOs?
More or less
Jack Martinez
Henry Garcia
Out of curiosity, how many non belgian citizens are actually in the Belgian military, especially EU foreigners that don't have spent a significant amount of their life in Belgium?
It's appears to me that the idea of the introduction of allowing EU citizens to join was mostly about allowing all the foreigners without citizenship which Brussels and Belgium in general as de facto center of western europe attract (and perhaps people from border regions), enlarging the pool of potential applicants for regular career service after the abolishment of conscription in the early 90s (which here in germany after the shortening of conscription service and massive spending cuts became it's inoffical main and not just as previous side purpose till it's final abolishment 2011).
Angel Ward
Does the linguist split actually shows itself in the military beyond one half speaking dutch and the other french?
Hudson Richardson
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Nolan Morris
How has that pic actually been flying around?
I remember faintly having already seen it like nearly a decade ago.
Austin Cook
How long*
Jordan Price
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Blake Young
Join German military m8. It's budget will soon be increased and due to increasingly integrated security network within the EU, Françafrique may be expanded to be a general EU policy to protect investment in Africa as seen with French EU led mission to Mali (in which Germany was second highest EU contributor). In Germany you'll get better pay, better equipment, and probably more experience than in the Belgian army.
Jaxon Brooks
Join the Foreign Legion plenty of Germans have
Austin Evans
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Landon Campbell
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Jonathan Wood
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Grayson Roberts
The original battle-buddies.
Adam Foster
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Adam Cook
Could some Belgians elaborate on the linguage divide and how it affects the Belgian military?
Evan Cox
Military bases located in the southern part of the country speak French, the ones in the north ; Flemish.
Some units are bilingual and speaking english is the priority.
Officers, RSM, CSM must speak both languages.
Luis Gomez
I can live with all that but dude, Flecktarn is absolutely unbeatable in central and eastern europe.
And Jigsaw is oretty useless everywhere, it looks like a fucking clownsuit.
Gabriel Hill
Are there any hostilities or prejudices between Dutch and French speaking personnel?
Sebastian Parker
Joshua Hughes
Why in 2 languages?
Christian Sanchez
Lierally chink tier. No wonder they ate the niggers in their colony
Easton Sullivan
It's a country with three official languages.
Cooper Diaz
The Belgian Air Force used the Flecktarn during the 1980s and early 1990s, it was called Smarties and not very popular.
Much depends on the unit (a small bilingual , aggressive paratroopers, a military school with "harder" or "cooler" training depending on the spoken language, a big infantry unit full of jarheads, ... ) ... in addition to the typical rivalry between each units.
Blake Harris
Out of curiosity, how elite is actually the belgian EOD service?
Ian Young
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Hudson Rogers
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Christian Torres
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Jordan Baker
Austin Foster
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Gabriel Lee
Belgium soon won't exist, user. Look at the elections. Flemish will join the Netherland, W*loons hopefully wont join Fr*nce and G*rmans are way too cucked for Eupen-Malmedy.
Tyler Bennett
Wtf are they supposed to be camoflauged from?!
Gabriel Sanders
Congo jungle, originally
Juan Russell
Repeating my question from earlier:
Out of curiosity, how elite and hard to get into is actually the belgian EOD service?
Charles Robinson
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