Is China now the primary military and geopolitical power in Asia or is Russia still continental king ? How do they compare directly and which one enjoys conventional superiority over the other?
Is China now the primary military and geopolitical power in Asia or is Russia still continental king...
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Anthony Martin
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Binkov can be hit or miss when it comes to actual analysis, but this video can at least give some perspective as to what each power is working with.
Charles Torres
think about it this way
russia population: 144 million
china population: 1.3 billion
russia GDP: 1.5 trillion
china GDP:12.2 trillion
not hard to figure out
Jonathan Perry
If Russia could actually transport a useful amount of their experienced troops to Siberia before it's completely overrun, they might have a chance, but they're fucked if the war lasts longer than a year.
Joshua Jenkins
Despite the fact that Binkov immediately went with MUH NUKES in defence of Russie, he at least admitted that China's far larger army, and Russian inability to mobilse swiftly would make for an easy Chinese victory on the border.
Leo Bailey
Isn't most of Russian defensive policy based on "muh nukes" at this point? It's not like they could defend against an invasion from anyone conventionally.
Josiah Cruz
china has air dominance. no way anyone can hide
Juan Clark
Yeah, I really doubt even Russia's IADS will be able to withstand a continued Chinese air campaign. Really, their only hope for victory would be a strategic nuclear exchange with the Chinese, given the sheer disparity in warheads and the fact that most of China's population lives in very dense urban centers.
Charles Morgan
If it reaches a point where China has nuclear parity with Russia, I can't imagine that Russians would be willing to risk a full out nuclear exchange to thwart Chinese aggression. Maybe a few tactical warheads to slow down Chinese forces, but they will not be launching the sarmat and yars at China.
The burgers spent 45 years engaging in reckless adventurism and intimidation of the USSR despite the fact that they each had nuclear parity.
Cooper Smith
>If it reaches a point where China has nuclear parity with Russia
That's a big if, though. China seems mostly interested in increasing the capabilities of their arsenal as opposed to expanding it, and Russia has been intent on keeping their strategic nuclear forces modern (for Russia) and numerous. Nukes will probably be the last field Russia ever allows itself to fall behind in.
Landon Perry
>Is China now the primary military and geopolitical power in Asia
In real terms, they probably are, but it'll likely take some sort of military conflict for the balance of power to actually shift.
Camden Russell
the civilian population in a war between those countries would probably not just be a casualty but a primary target
Lincoln Foster
Given the histories of both of those countries when it comes to civilian casualties, you're probably correct.
Luke Thomas
let me remind you of the last time China attempted to chat shit
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Josiah Harris
China was a 3rd world shithole at time while the USSR was the other dominant power in a dipolar world. Right now, Russia is the crumbling 4th world shithole whereas China is deploying advanced military technologies at mind-boggling pace
Landon Powell
Remind me who the fuck owns these islands.
Carson Phillips
>Binkov
>actual analysis
Eli Bennett
Never said the puppet was great, but he's useful at giving a perspective on the numbers and quality of the forces involved.
Austin Myers
China doesn't care about colonizing Siberia lol. They just want to use it as resource extraction. Russia is willing to oblige as they don't have much interest in Asian side of the Russia and they're mainly focused on eastern europe.
Cooper Clark
>posting Shitkov videos as arguments
kys you stupid dumb low IQ scum
Samuel Edwards
Oh, that Chinese aircraft carrier looks clean, but doesn´t it have 3M-54 Kalibr?
Henry Long
>but doesn´t it have 3M-54 Kalibr?
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Brandon Lopez
China is about to starve from 1/3 of their pigs dying
Carson James
They can afford to put their missiles on ships dedicated for the purpose instead of having to jam everything they can on the few boats they can afford to maintain.
Because they're not slavs who's only naval tradition is sucking and dying.
Evan Hernandez
>Siberia
do you even know what Siberia look like?
Jeremiah Thompson
>Is China now the primary military and geopolitical power in Asia
No
They use exclusively knockoffs of Russian and American tech from ten 80’s
Chinese tanks and aircraft are inferior to their Russian counterparts
For example, China’s Type-99 (their best tank) is too heavy to operate in mountainous and hilly environments, armor is “classified” but most likely inferior to anything Russia or America currently operate, not to mention that there’s only about 1000 of them. Remember that the T-72B is superior and Russia has ~750 of them along with 750 T-90’s, 1000 T-72B3’s, 3000 T-80BV’s and 350 T-80U’s (all superior to the Type-99)
Bear in mind China mostly fields Type-59’s (tech from 1959)
China’s J-10 is an improved J-9 (early 60’s tech) it’s also their air superiority fighter along with the J-11 (A Su-27 with older tech) and the J-7 variants are extremely outdated, while Russian fighters such as the MiG-31, the MiG-29K, the Su-30 and Su-35 are vastly superior
Russian missiles (SAM, ICBM and other ballistic missiles) generally are modern compared to Chinese missiles and are vastly superior compared to some western missiles fielded by NATO
Joseph Martinez
Also this
Hunter Wright
*cough cough*
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Carter Davis
I can't hear you over the engine
Nolan Walker
China is a 3rd world shithole. Even young Russias don't want to go to work there but South Korea or Japan. All the Chinese weapons are cheap Knock-off of the Russian weapons.
Easton Garcia
A few mlrs systems would be enough to hold chinese offensive for days
Hunter Phillips
>Is China now the primary military and geopolitical power in Asia
Levi Nguyen
>A few mlrs systems
ohh mayy.. an expret..
Jason Walker
So were going to ignore ~8500 functional nuclear weapons now or what?
Andrew Sanchez
You’re fucking retarded as shit.
Alexander Ross
>breaks down trying to climb hill
Jonathan Long
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Andrew Moore
Why is Jow Forums so full of china shills anyways? Dont you people have your own knockoff image board behind your chink filter?
Dylan Lee
People are waking up to the reality in the coming years. The memes of the last 2 decades may no longer become relevant.
Thomas Allen
never happened pajeet. Stop projecting your shitty tank which was the one that acutally broke down at the bottom of a """""hill""""".
Benjamin Rivera
>implying I’m Indian
I’m Russian, numbnuts
Samuel Sanchez
That was your tank Pajeet.
Did NDTV mislabel your own forces as the enemy again?
Liam James
>my countries 3rd rate imports are vastly supior
No, you are just Russias retarded cashcow