F15 vs Su27

>arabfighter typhoon

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Samefag harder, mad boi.

>Bait this obvious
>Not even the same aircraft
>Thinking we're talking about sand niggers since we all know the only thing they're good at is crashing into buildings

I feel so so sorry for your mother, she raised a retard.

SeeNow cry harder

It's not like today's F15 is the same from the 70s though. Altough it didn't get any meme worthy upgrades, like thrust vectoring engines, it did get the ones that matter, like new avionics and missiles.

Yeah, I'd like to see meme thrust vectoring and new more powerful engines but the new needed upgrades are good too,

I mean, AESA pretty much makes the F15 the best conventional (non-stealth) fighter in the world.

And with the new AMRAAM racks the F15X is going to carry, its the ultimate missile truck.

You're right, maybe possibly take down a Su35 if it catches it off guard

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Alright buddy.

It'll see it first and shoot it first, basically every time.

>In the case of the US vs Russia, what would be the outcome of a battle between the F15 Eagle and the Su27 Flanker?
Which modifications?

Presumably the most common models of each in service with each country.
F-15C and F-15E for the US, Su-27SM and Su-27SM3 for the Russians.

The Su-27 would get raped harder than a russian conscript.
Other than doing stunts at air shows, the Su-27 is inferior in every regard.

As demonstrated by numerous A2A exercises, Royal Malaysian Air Force Su30MKM is vastly superior to F-22, F-18F and F-15E/K/SG

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Only nine at most airworthy and shit in anything but BCM

God knows if those nine can even be a threat.

The Su-35 would be caught off guard every time. The first warning that it’s being targeted would be when its RWR warns that an AIM-120 has gone pitbull against it.

>better avionics
from the latest su? doubtfull they are prob the same
>better sensors
same shit both of them have
>better missiles
only for bvr
>better maint
oh yeah like this is a factor when you are dropping like flies
>better doctrine
literally irrelevant no matter what doctrine you have
>better support
depends on where the shit goes down if you are close to russia than usa then no the logistical support to maint damaged aircraft IS A NIGHTMARE for everybody but the one that is closer to his mainland will always have an advantage be it usa china russia vietnam afganistan whatever

Flanker has an advantage in maneuverability only at extremely low speeds, however it does have the Soviet-era Shchel-3UM helmet-targeting system for the R-73.

I don't know if the F-15C is widespread equipped with the JHMCS and the AIM-9X, but if it is then the flanker is fucked in all-aspects from BVR to guns. Only way the Flanker has an advantage is stalking an Eagle with its electro-optical system, but the USAF isn't a third-world air-force, so they'll have better tactics than to get exposed like that.

Here's some guy in DCS murdering scrubs with a Flanker, through stealth tactics using terrain cover, and EO: youtube.com/watch?v=PXtcVF2KD54

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Allow me to quite Jow Forums's favorite old guy, Pierre Sprey...."The pilot is much more important than the airplane." Hate him all you want, he is not wrong here.

this thread is more pointless than the daily pistol caliber shitposting

Yes, and the Russian pilot has like ten flight-hours a year.

>Yes, and the Russian pilot has like ten flight-hours a year.

Yes, believe that and pray for the F15's pilots' soul.

Are these numbers legit?

a jet that has never, ever been shot down, yet has 100's of kills vs slav shit

>only for bvr

Oh yeah, you mean only 95% of a2a kills? Huh yeah no big deal I guess.

>a jet that has never, ever been shot down, yet has 100's of kills vs slav shit

Throw them up against Iran's S300s and let's see how well it fairs against advanced SAMs...granted, that wouldn't ruin it's plane to plane kill ratio, but it would probably make you realize, that while it's a great plane per se, it's not the invincible bird you seem to take for granted.

Egale would eat Flanker alive. End of story

F-14 is the only one that is in doubt becuase it depends on Iran telling the truth. Do note it is Air to Air kills counted.

and a plane armed for SEAD or DEAD will take care of it.

I can't wait till Putin follows the chink example and starts putting up a wall over the Russian internet, so you guys will be gone.

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Funny how all the F-15 shills with muh BVR seem to completely disregard that ECM is a thing and that unlike virtually all of NATO, Ruskies never stopped developing newer and better ones...

With modern ECM, you can forget the 60 mile BVR wet dream, you have to get nice and close to burn through the jamming and at that point the Eagle has literally no advantage, so it'd still be down to pilot training and luck.
A reminder that the Flanker has an electronics package (radar or ECM) in it's ass as well, all the Eagle has on it's ass is a nice blond spot.

>41895323
>Hurr durr Eagle sports no ECM because I said so
Heres (You)

>SU-27 TERMINATOR BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD EAGLE KILLER PUGACHEV COBRA 2019 [360p] [pirates of the caribbean hardbass]

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>through them up against Iraq's sams and let's see how well it fairs
t.person living in 2003

obviously because we live in a world that countermeasures do not exist
or they never work against mutt tech
for some reason

yep
and watching slavs and poos cry is great

>so it'd still be down to pilot training and luck.
so the americans will have the advantage with pilot training and the russian toilet inspectors will have to rely on being lucky? why am i not surprised in the slightest.

will still get slammed in the WVR arena, russia does not even have anything that can even begin to compare to the AIM-9X.

Home on jam the emitter.

Nope. F-15 is at least 104:0 last I checked.
>GOAT

>TFW the tomcat’s reputation is gonna get shit on because we are gonna have to kill Iran
She was a great plane, she didn’t deserve this fate.

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>As demonstrated by numerous A2A exercises, Royal Malaysian Air Force Su30MKM is vastly superior to F-22, F-18F and F-15E/K/SG
Yeah, but thats because they be malysian, not because they are flying Su30. Its well known fact that malysian airforce pilots would be vastly superior even if they were flying CAC Sabres or A4 skyhawks, or Pt-91 Pendekars, becuse its not a question of equipment but rather inherent malaysian superiority.

>what is EPAWSS
>what is IEWS
>what is HOJ
>implying the us was slacking in electronic warfare of all fucking things
the F-15C's TEWS has full 360 degree coverage, that's what the transceiver on the port side vertical stabilizer is for
the ideal firing range against maneuvering targets for most amraam models is about 30 nautical miles, well inside the burn-through distance of your khibiny and sorbitsaya pods
cope harder vatnik

Barely any of them fly so it won't affect the kill count too much.

Their k:c in the Iraq war was so good we wouldn't fuck it up that much by taking the handful they can fly down.

lol what

have you seen the Total Drag x Thrust curve for that thing? If you have you probably wouldn't understand it, but it means its shit

nope

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>>better maint
>oh yeah like this is a factor when you are dropping like flies

go back to ace combat

Based Trips of Vatnik-killing truth
Hey Ivan, what's it like getting the same flight-hours over your career that the average fatnik gets in a month

They finally managed to figure out how to produce 4004 clones so they've gotten several back into service

Ground to air kills don’t factor into air to air kills.