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Is .45 ACP as effective as 9mm?
Angel Long
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Dominic Bennett
More effective, but you can carry more 9mm.
45 is also pretty good at being suppressed.
Brandon Cruz
Yeah
Kayden Rogers
147gr 9mm supresses even better. When will this meme end?
Christopher Peterson
I never said 9mm was bad at being suppressed, just that 45 is good at it. You really don’t have to look hard for subsonic 45, but with 9mm it’s harder.
Camden Flores
Depends on how many times you plan to pull the trigger. Once, no. But if you want to conceal a gun and have more than 5 shots 9mm is the better choice. It all comes down to if you want capacity and compactness.
Kayden Lopez
I got shot in the hand with a 9mm once and it didn't hurt so I'd go with 45
Jonathan Foster
>147gr 9mm suppresses better
What? You can +P .45ACP and it'll still be subsonic.
You can go from 230gr all the way down to 185gr. Give it +P and it'll STILL be subsonic.
Easton Wood
It's not what you carry, it's how much you should be carrying.
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Liam Hill
9mm is objectively better because it moves faster
Eli Reyes
.45 is the more effective round if we're comparing a single .45 vs. a single 9mm.
Adrian Rodriguez
185gr +p is moving as fast as 9mm 115gr well above the speed of sound.
>1140 fps.
Jeremiah Murphy
Heavier guns, longer barrels, bigger expansion, double stack isn't obnoxiously wide. Exactly what I wanted.
Ryan Howard
You'd be silly to claim that outright. There is too much variety. 185gr +p was picked by SOCOM specifically because it's right in the edge of being supersonic.
William Young
All the 185gr +p loads i see for sale are moving faster than speed of sound at sea level.
Blake White
Velocity is next to meaningless at handgun ranges. 45 punches wider and deeper in soft targets resulting in a higher probability of scoring
an incapacitating hit.
Bentley Sullivan
A 2mm increase in scoring a incapacitating hit.
I’d pick more rounds, lighter recoil and better penetration over that.
Easton Reyes
I dont want to be rude, but what's printed on the box and what the real world results are. Are pretty off. I reload, and that's a chart of various good powders to use. Behind 185grs of lead. They can still, and majority, actually turn out slower than the speed of sound. Even with "+P."
So, my original point that even 185gr +P and it'll still be subsonic, is correct.
And 185gr isnt as popular as 230gr. So therefore 45acp suppresses better.
Along with that, goto a local gunstore. 147gr for 9mm is actually one of the more rare of the 4ammos between 115-147 grain.
Isaiah Smith
The same could be said for 9mm.
Typical 124gr loads from walmart are only pressing 1050-1090 at the muzzle. Still subsonic.
Nathan Mitchell
Well in, whatever this argument seems to be, that 147gr 9mm suppresses better. I dont think any of this anymore actually matters.
What size suppressor has someone bought? 9 or 45? Then there is an obvious choice to be made there.
I'm gonna throw my 2 cents in and say, smart people actually buy 45acp suppressors because the difference between the decibels of a 9mm shooting through a proper 9mm can or a 45acp can is negligible. Having a 45acp can also gives you more room to play with.
Jose Garcia
In my experience 9mm 147 and 124 supresses better than .45, less diamater, less report, both loads being subsonic of course.
Dominic White
Then you're ultimately right, the decibels are less on 9mms shooting through both 45acp and 9mm dedicated cans.
2-6 decibel difference on almost every silencer I can find. How much that matters is up to the pencilnecks.
What 9mm offers in higher capacity or form factor is where it beats 45acp now.
Joseph Gonzalez
.45’s seem to do better at long range though, it looks like.
Bentley Perez
Remember that increasing the diameter of a bullet increases it’s surface area exponentially
Hudson Perry
.45 bigger wound channel, more energy transfer. Depends on where you hit your target. Critical area 1-shot is all it takes. Feel lucky punk?
Nathan Peterson
Still a very small increase in terminal effectiveness.
>also .40 and .357 sig being smaller in diameter having the same wound tract as the larger .45
Owen Thomas
10mm suppresses better then 9mm or 45
Nicholas Davis
>better penetration
I'd rather do 18% more damage shot for shot than have 3 or 4 more rounds at the bottom of my mag.
Jaxon Brown
I load 9s in my silenced 45 and they are perfect. There is a bit more barrel rattle/instability but i can bury the recoil like its a 22 and within 100m accuracy is not a factor.
Ayden Rivera
Why did you have to post this on a Friday.
Angel Adams
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Hudson Ward
Yes, better penetration. That “%18” is marginal at best.
Also, source?
Nathan Sullivan
Noah White
>18% more damage
Ballistics aren't a videogame stat sheet.
They difference between them is negligible. Choose whichever can be carried in larger capacity.
Nolan Rodriguez
cant dispute the numbers with feelings guys
Carter Walker
By this logic 50 cal is the most effective handgun cartridge. It's only in absence of all other factors that 45 wins over 9mm
Dominic Ortiz
go make some warm milk it will be ok
Cooper Martin
This meme is gay. They have .45s with 15 rd capacity
Logan Butler
>50 cal
Honestly a popular gun in 50 GI would be pretty cool, and be a functional defense tool.
A 9mm that size could probably fit 16-20
Joshua Long
If only .50GI was more common and thus cheaper...
Adrian Baker
>A 9mm that size could probably fit 16-20
Yeah and a .22 could fit 35.
Lincoln Gray
Could it do it do it as relaibly as a rimless design? Could it meet the fbi’s criteria?
Robert Wood
I trained my immune system for bulletproofness too. Took 5 years to become immune to .22, almost 20 years for 9mm, and .45 is nowhere in sight. So .45 will be more effective, as you'd have to train from childhood well into middle ages to deflect them and few people are that dedicated, but you will run into 9mm immune people from time to time.
Caleb Cook
Anthony Cox
In my opinion there are only two types of pistol bullets worth considering.
>small, high powder, bullets to fight armor
>examples include 5.7x28 or 22 tcm
>big low powder bullets to deal with unarmored targets
>examples include 44 mag, 45 acp, 50 GI etc
All other bullets are only considered for cost reasons.
Austin Campbell
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Michael Nelson
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Yes
.380 auto, 9mm, 40S&W, and .45 ACP essentially all have the same chance of killing someone.
Maybe if you shot someone, point blank, in the heart, in a controlled environment, with 9mm and then another person with .45, the .45 would win.
But in any shooting situation in which you are under real stress all that matters is getting shots on target as quick as possible.
So don't carry .25 auto or .22lr and you're fine.
/thread
Ayden Cox
Terminal ballistics dumbass.
Charles Wright
Holy fuck, it's Friday??
Brayden Watson
>this kills the argument