F for Fuck SEALs. Imagine getting so embarrassed by a Combat Controller that you work for a decade to deny his MOH...

F for Fuck SEALs. Imagine getting so embarrassed by a Combat Controller that you work for a decade to deny his MOH. Imagine living with the shame that you left him to die.

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Also, what's the story behind this?

SEALs being gigantic, incompetent, man children that can dish but can't take has been pretty much the standard I've heard from everyone that's ever worked with them. Their unit culture sucks and it shows.

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>Also, what's the story behind this?


>SEALs get jammed up because of their SEAL STRONK mentality, wind up fucked in the ass
>Another branch bails them out, this time the Air Force
>Spend the next decade insisting you didn't need help despite crying on the radio and how your Brothers that were asleep on QRF and 4 hours away completely would have come by to get you

It's just like the Red Wing cluster fuck where they still basically refuse to acknowledge any casualty that wasn't a SEAL or admit that Rangers, Group, and PJs saved Luttrells ass.

SEALs are decent divers and pretty meh in just about everything else

But from what eve seen, the air force makes incredible soldiers

>on a rescue mission
>rushes bunker
>kills two combatants in close quarters fighting
>Seals take losses and pull back
>Chapman is MIA at this point. SEALs don’t even bother looking for him
>Chapman fights for hours in close combat and hand to hand while nursing multiple wounds
>QRF turn up at 6am after Chapman had fought all night and been hit over 15 times
>Chapman makes a final stand in a position that the enemy need to lay down devastating fire on landing forces
>goes out in a blaze of glory
>Navy command fights the MOH award for a decade instead of admitting that their team fucked up and learning from their mistakes
>pisses on the memory of an American hero

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Still can't believe the SEALS left him on that mountain. To watch him storm a bunker by himself is some John Wayne shit.

He should have gotten two MOH's. One for himself and one for the bullshit one given to the Seal leader.

They gave Chapman the MOH, but only after they gave one to the SEAL commander who abandoned him first

Imagine being so ass blasted you try to shut down someone from a group whose entire purpose is to rescue people and hostages in intense situations.

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F for chapman

>Still can't believe the SEALS left him on that mountain.
This. And in doing so failing both a comrade in arms AND the objective AND having the gall to call in an airstrike DIRECTLY on the position.
SEALs need to fucking hang, they're awful little shits.

You cant say that fuckface...They all did their jobs, some better then others. end of story.

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skinnied out on a few good deets
youtu.be/3oKMjTqdTYo

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>commander
It wasn't the commander, it was a Master Chief, but he was the head SEAL in charge on the ground.

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Not to arm-chair general this bitch...BUT WHY THE FUCK DO SEALS ALWAYS LAND HELOS LITERALLY ON TOP OF ENEMY POSITIONS? Every fucking time. Operations Redwings as well. It's just the dumbest fucking planning ever.

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>from what I've heard
You haven't heard shit and you know fuck all. These threads are always good for a laugh

literally thanks obama

>SEALs doing anything other than amphibious operations

thats gonna be a yikes from me dawg

F for Chapman

Not to defend them, but it wasn't their first choice of landing positions and they had no idea enemies were there

HOL' UP
>gets blown the fuck out by goat herders
SO YOU BE SAYIN
>blocks medal of honor of man they left to die
THAT WE FINNA BE
>kills fellow service members to hide crimes
THAT WE WUZ
>gets blown the fuck out by goat herders again
SPESHUL FORCES
>refuses to learn basic infantry tactics
'N SHIET?

>SEALs are decent divers
SEALs managed to lose people in calm waters, in completeley unopposed operations during Grenada

You are now aware that shitting all over the SEALs reputation is part of a Russian psyop.
Just another one of the shitty penny ante bullshit Russia is pulling because they believe for some fucked up retarded reason that the SEALs are a super important part of Americans self image, and if they can damage that image Americans will surrender to them or some dumb shit. It probably makes sense if you drink a liter of vodka then think about it.

F, all they do is throw grenades anyways

>everyone who disagrees with me is a russian hacker
desu senpai the seals shouldn't be so incompetent and make it so easy for armchair commandos to shit all over them

imagine that man saving one your guys who is a retard and fell off the chopper, and then when he saves your guy, you then leave him for dead, instead of fighting, and he then wakes up and rambo more fucking terrorists.

SOME EXPLAIN WHY NEED THE SEALS WHY WOULD WE NEED NIGGERS ON BOATS TO BE SPECIAL FORCES WHEN THE MARINES ARE ALREADY AMPHIBIOUS NIGGERS. NAVY=BOATS, MARINES = AMPHIBIOUS TROOPS.

>SEALs repeatedly being exposed for drug use, rape, murder, etc.
>Literal first-hand accounts from independent sources confirming Chapman fought on and the SEALs pussied out and left
>Physical evidence of SEAL community trying to prevent Chapman getting his own MOH
>Spent 8 years in service as JFO, met three SEALs. All fucking retards.

"It's Russians guys"

Great video. How they can discern what he's doing in certain spots where they zoom in I have no idea but him fighting the dude in hand to hand is great. Pretty hard to flat out kill someone with your hands though must have stabbed or shot him eventually

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>congressional medal of honor
>congressional

This mad me cry bros, like you hear about you know what they did, but watching him do it, and then what he did after which i didn't know i just though they left him and he fought to death. He said a second group, i kinda wish they took the seal's medal bros.

>pisses on the memory of an American hero

more like a retard who lone wolfed without paying attention to the rest of his squad.

>squad follow you
>you get knocked out
>squad says fuck it leaves you
>proceed to lonewolf cause you were abandoned by the elite special forces, you tried to save cause dumb fuck fell off the copter.

fuck you

>proceed to save a second helicopter squad.

Well, if they are famous for backbiting and murdering their own, maybe some quick decimation is in order. Seems to fit with their ethos

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>proceed to save a second helicopter squad.

but he didn't save them, the helicopter got hit by a rocket.

>t. Neverserved

why because i DARED to criticize a national hero?

Because you fail to realise that he didn’t “lone wolf”. Everyone else was pinned. You also fail to realise that the Seals check on the other members of their group when they’re hit but don’t even bother with Chapman. They just disengage down the mountain.

its pretty fuckin badass thats why

the squad didn't even follow him, watch the video. the only person that follows him up the mountain is britt, the team leader. britt was fully aware that chapman was shot and went down but never bothered to check him, he didn't even go inside the bunker and ran right past it.

yes he did,many would have been killed on the disembark if chapman didn't fire onto the squad that was set up to fire on the men getting out of the helicopter.

The helicopter managed to land. This wasn't like redwing where they lost 16 people in one go.

Lol like that's gonna happen as soon as there's war the west will be thirty for Putin's blood.

This mission is in Medal of Honor 2010

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So whataboutism on a national level?
Fucking Russians are retarded, its not like pointing out one US special forces unit is retarded is going to smooth over the fact that their whole military is a underfunded joke still large reliant on old 80s Soviet leftovers and that their "special forces" kill more hostages and innocent bystanders than terrorists.

>Chapman makes a final stand in a position that the enemy need to lay down devastating fire on landing forces

You having a stroke you fuckin retard?

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the helo that came to rescue him was rangers and a few PJs and CCTs IIRC

>the helo that came to rescue him was rangers and a few PJs and CCTs IIRC

The Navy people in JSOC decided they had to get their precious SEALs in there, so they had the SEALs go to relieve the Delta Force guy in charge and the operators he had hand-picked for the job. The SEALs having no fucking idea what they were doing decided to put an OP on the best position on the valley, and the Delta guy told them "Al Qaeda know it is the best position, they must have something there, don´t land a chopper in that place".

The plan they came up with was landing the SEALs some distance away, and climb up. But they had mechanical issues with the choppers, and that would have caused them to land in daylight, so they requested a one-day delay to their insertion. The commander, Gregory Trebon, refused that delay and pushed for them to insert.

So to make the commander´s deadline, they had to land the fucking chopper right on top of the mountain. And by the time the Delta guy that had been in charge of everything and knew what´s what found out, he could do nothing because Trebon changed radio freqs for no fucking reason (maybe to cut the Delta guy, Pete Blaber, out of the loop).

The whole clusterfuck happened, and then Chapman was alone on the mountain when the QRF with the Rangers arrived. Problem is, the QRF had no idea what they were facing because, oh, the radio freq change fucked with the comms, so Blaber couldn´t tell them shit. And it was daylight, so the AC-130s assigned to the op were long gone.

So... Chapman was the only fucking guy that could do anything to cover the Rangers, and he did, like a motherfucking hero, at the cost of his life. He saved 23 men.

And this story, coupled with a few others, is why I believe SEALs should be disbanded. Fuck those glory-seeking cunts. Give their funding to Delta and the Rangers or beef up the 24th STS.

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>pic related, the Delta guy when he finally found out what was happening

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SEALs are still very useful...

At shit like maritime raids and blowing up oil platforms.

They invariably suck at stand-up gun battles.

Have you ever seen SEALs train in small unit tactics? Their entire doctrine is to “peel” (retreat) whenever they face contact that can’t be handled by 6 men with M4’s and a SAW.

They’re incredibly mentally tough and sneaky, but sneakybois don’t take down hard targets.

>the Delta guy when he finally found out what was happening

>what do you mean our AC-130 just attacked our Green Beret and Afghan convoy

>what do you mean the SEALs are landing on the summit, I specifically told them not to do that

>what do you mean the Ranger QRF is landing on that summit as well and I can´t tell them to abort because we can´t reach them on comms


SEALs were later assigned Afghanistan as their game turf while Delta got Iraq.

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You're spot on. 6 man teams are generally going to find themselves outgunned in almost every situation. I spent several years in a LRS unit. A lot of high speed infantry guys work on all these shoot move communicate tactics but when push comes to shove, being compromised means your mission is over. Breaking contact becomes your most common battle drill. Rangers, long tabs and other elite units get a mythological narrative but even the best training can't overcome the law of averages.

How exactly do you know all this?

It's a good thing Coast Guard already has operators capable of doing those things and they're intelligent.

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This. This is why shit like UW training is paramount for guys like SF. Shit like getting ambushes down to muscle memory, and being capable of infiltrating behind enemy lines without being detected. Because at the end of the day, without having any "force multipliers" like the element of surprise or ambushing your enemy while their in the killzone via enfilade fire. They're just 12 fucking dudes going up against a force that's more than 12. In straight up fights, it's all about numbers.

give the air force the sticks first

>Coast Guard
don't get me wrong, they're actually pretty badass, but
>Coast Guard

Hey, remember that video? That was from a drone. They had SOLID Intel that there was fighting, that he was alive, and that they shouldn't land there. THEY got everyone killed and should be ashamed.

Maybe they should stop deploying men with specialized knowledge of UNDERWATER WARFARE in the DESERT where this is NO WATER

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>pic related

>Hey, remember that video? That was from a drone. They had SOLID Intel that there was fighting, that he was alive, and that they shouldn't land there. THEY got everyone killed and should be ashamed.

You misunderstand.

1- The SEALs with Chapman try to land on Takur Ghar, their chopper evades enemy fire but SEAL Neil C. Roberts falls off.

2- They go back for Roberts, shit goes down. SEALs retreat mistaking Roberts´ dead body for Chapman´s.

3- The Rangers, called upon to act as QRF but having no comms to know what´s going on, are shot down while Chapman keeps the AQ from taking the bunker he was in, which would have given them even better positions to shoot at the Rangers from.

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tl;dr Chapman was a saint, SEALs lost their cool and left men behind, Rangers boldy went

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SEAL means SEA, AIR, LAND. That last part is very important. Yes, their initial training focuses very heavily on combat diving, but the idea that their training never goes beyond that is retarded.

No it fucking doesn’t

Where the fuck did you learn that? Your never served uncle?

Are you? That sentence makes perfect sense retard.

>another episode of summer faggots ranking spec ops against each other like its a competition.
should be good

lmao

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YOU FORGOT THE BEST PART

> SEALS get in trouble for giving this story to the guys who make the Medal of Honor game

The last mission in MOH 2010 is this story and its all sad because your SEAL character dies.

Press U to honor SEALs and tell the haters to fuck off

UUUU

t. Navy recruiter

Bunch of asspained Chair Force homos hating on their betters.

No, I mean during initial imagery reconnaissance the bunker positions weren't noticed. They knew bad guys were around but they didn't realize bad guys were 50 feet away until their chinook caught a couple RPGs. And yes, the SEALs should absolutely be ashamed about leaving a man for dead and then trying to claim that the guy fighting on in the pred feed was actually Roberts

FU

These are some of the best fighters the world has to offer yet they still were slain by men with no formal education, insufficient combat experience and perhaps a tenth of the equipment the good guys have.

Such an occurrence truly does cause one to contemplate the possibilities, doesn't it?

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retard

lol sorry your seal mascot couldn't even make it thru PJ indoc

They think they are Adeptus Astartes wearing 1,000lbs of armor rated at 20mm high explosive cannon

They aren't

Boarding guys are real fuckin operators. SEALs get deployed once a year for sure-fire in and outs.

CG boarding teams go hard in the paint every 3 days. Fuck the SEALs

>Still can't believe the SEALS left him on that mountain. To watch him storm a bunker by himself is some John Wayne shit.
>He should have gotten two MOH's. One for himself and one for the bullshit one given to the Seal leader
ever played World of Tanks, or any other game, where one guy gets abandoned by the team, still fights for minutes and takes 3-6 guys with him?

All because the team pussied out and didn't want to support him?

Thats what this is in the real world. The man would have lived, and they would have wiped out the base had they nutted up and fought.

The heart is the most important factor and the Taliban have the strongest heart...the Nationalist, racialist, male-supremacist and anti-semitic heart.

Here is the video

m.youtube.com/watch?v=3oKMjTqdTYo

blaming russia wont work and outs you as a kike psyop

You said that in a very gay way, but it is true that one of the most important things in war, if not the most important thing. Is the will to fight, not the weapons or technology or the tactics and doctrine, but the will to fight. It was due to the different willingness to fight that let us march straight into Baghdad with minimal resistance as apposed to borderline having to commit multiple accounts of Genocide against countless Indian tribes during the time of Manifest Destiny due to most of these tribes refusing to submit and obey even with our superior technological gap in those wars.

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UW doesnt work..."force mutlipliers"

LMAO

Armies have been doing this as recently as the French in vietnam post WWII

that shit has never worked and will never work, when fighting against a nation or ideology.

>is why I believe SEALs should be disbanded
or keep them, and keep funneling meathead jackasses in there, so they dont filter out into the useful branches

Like keeping Jow Forums, and /b/ and /news/ alive or /v/ untainted by censorship.....

>met three SEALs. All fucking retards.
story time

>t. coping SEAL

>SEALs are still very useful..
if they were competent. infighting and drug running has rotted the SEALs from the inside out. a complete purge would be needed to get them back to how they were. they should be disbanded and their assets and mission transferred over to other more suitable branches and SF groups.

ahhh yes
the vaunted cykablyat jidf brigade at work

American politicians have no fucking clue what they're doing.

im sure they tried that at one point, but now the SEALs have just become an outright blight on the reputation of US special forces.

>Ambushing enemy forces in a pre determined killzone doesn't work
>coming up from your short comings of having fewer men then the enemy by attacking them by suprise
>reddit spacing
GIT

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>now the SEALs have just become an outright blight on the reputation of US special forces
This is the second instance shared publicly of SEALS panicking and fleeing after taking casualties, the first being Red Wings. You could count the Melgar murder as a third instance of a SEAL breaking down mentally. Wasn't their training was the hardest in the world and designed to weed out the weak?

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The type of person that (typically) wants to become a SEAL is a fucking douchebag with no sense of honor and should not be respected.

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Don't forget they ac130'd his goddamn position

Hard training without a reason is pointless. There's a line (admittedly sometimes blurry) between being hard and being dumb.

Since every other SF unit has basic infantry skills before learning 'special' stuff, they know where the line is. They know when hard stuff is being better at the job, when it's avoidable cope that's still prepared for, and when it's stupid. Seals don't, so not only is their hard stuff sometimes pointless, it metastasizes into stupidity.

sloppy job Putin

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>best fighters

Their infantry skills are mediocre at best. In a straight fight a generic US infantry squad would beat a SEAL squad 6/10 times.

Think less weed out the weak and more select the unhinged sociopaths and then train them to kill while high on speed.

If SEALs were used to kill hot sluts instead of random brown people, they would unironically be based

???
i love me some hot sluts
t. hot slut