You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like

Hudson Cox
Hudson Cox

You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like.

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popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a18141/towing-admiral-kuznetsov-video-tugboat/
medium.com/dfrlab/is-russia-retiring-the-kuznetsov-likely-not-yet-146863d02c02
news.rambler.ru/articles/37389093-granitnyy-udar-podvodnogo-kreysera-tomsk/
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk_submarine_disaster
defenseone.com/technology/2018/04/designer-russias-first-armed-drone-under-arrest/147751/
youtube.com/watch?v=uTYkcnJdDio
youtube.com/watch?v=VVtDX46cTJQ
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin_(1957_icebreaker)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_cruiser_Azov
independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/navy-nuclear-submarine-sex-drugs-cocaine-hms-vigilant-trident-vanguard-women-in-armed-forces-a8024506.html
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_Hultgreen
vivovoco.astronet.ru/VV/JOURNAL/VRAN/03_10/STELLS.HTM
jowforums.com/thread/41967086/weapons
businessinsider.com/us-warns-ally-against-buying-russian-submarines-2018-8
themoscowtimes.com/2018/12/10/russia-overtakes-uk-as-worlds-second-largest-arms-producer-report-says-a63761
themoscowtimes.com/2019/03/11/russia-remains-second-largest-arms-exporter-despite-sales-drop-think-tank-a64763

Brayden Parker
Brayden Parker

True.

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Bentley Kelly
Bentley Kelly

Are they still operating just the one?

Isaac Reed
Isaac Reed

You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like.

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Grayson Lewis
Grayson Lewis

HUMPHHH
MY SHIP GOOD
USE Jow Forums MEME
GET ON MY LEVEL PLEB HEHE REDDIT PLEB HEHE />>>#/r/>>> HE DOESNT USE GREENTEXT
GET ON MY DANK MEME LEVEL PLEB
I'm not playing your fucking game anymore. Post a timestamped picture of your face, or else you're the ugliest nigger shill alive. I wanna see those powered asscheek cheeks you worthless discord tranny, and I wanna imagine breaking them with an iron rod and seeing the post-op pictures in the news of your facial reconstruction.

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John Hughes
John Hughes

MY SHIP GOOD
That's what all of these conversations boil down to.

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Blake Torres
Blake Torres

No.
Kek

Aiden Hill
Aiden Hill

lmao mad

Noah Bell
Noah Bell

Western navies have devolved to building to paper-hulled, undergunned, memed-to-within-an-inch-of-their-life "frigates" and "destroyers" (not even mentioning LCS) that mostly exist to kill incompetent brown people who live in deserts
Russia has enormous submarines and battlecruisers and beefy missile corvettes, but half their shit can't leave port without a tugboat
Why does god enjoy such cruelty?

Jordan Moore
Jordan Moore

undergunned
Ticos carry 122 VLS.

Jordan Kelly
Jordan Kelly

Two scrapped, one undergoing refit, one "operational". Kek, nah.

Kevin Martin
Kevin Martin

aircraft carrier sinks you

It's personal mutt.

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Colton Peterson
Colton Peterson

two deck guns
w
o

youtube.com/watch?v=BwZ3a_Kie8w

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Jaxson Brooks
Jaxson Brooks

lol i wish. Russians event cant came up with good flag for their navy and have to steal us confederate flag

Daniel Clark
Daniel Clark

I'm not even a yank but I wish the USN built a nuclear-powered battlecruiser. That would've been scary af.

Charles Sanchez
Charles Sanchez

Naaaah. His systems are way too outdated and he can't attack ground targets. Because Soviet admirals were fucking stupid. Wait until Admiral Nakhimov comes to service. That would be true peak performance.

Henry Foster
Henry Foster

event cant came up

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Jacob Roberts
Jacob Roberts

Reminder that Nakhimov will have
80 UKSK-M for Kalibr-NK Land Attack Cruise Missile, Oniks supersonic Anti ship Missile for command centric missile swarm attacks, Zircon hypersonic Anti ship Missile, 40N6 Long Range strategic anti air Missile for aerospace targets such as B-52 MALD-J carriers or E-3 AEW and 77N6 Long Range strategic anti ballistic/ anti satellite missile for space or near space targets.
96 VLS for 40N6 or 48N6DM Dal'Naya strategic anti air missile with secondary anti surface capabilities or quadpacked (4x96 with 150km range) 9M96E2 tactical anti air missile with secondary anti surface capabilities. Good against ship sensors or other unarmored parts of a ship.
Koalitsiya 152mm dual cannon. The land version is capable of 80km range using standard shells with a very fast rate of fire and a liquid cooling system making it capable of sustained firing for a long time. Not to mention newer fuzes such as Dinamika for guided shells or new gun fired loitering drones.
Pantsir-SM with 100km range Hermes anti surface missiles or 40km range Hermes-K anti air missiles.
Tor-M2M with 16 missiles, double than that of the original Tor
Capability to launch Shkval-2 guided supercavitating torpedo.

Tl:dr that's not peak performance. Nakhimov is peak performance.

Sebastian Perez
Sebastian Perez

Holy fuck you're mad. Are you Polish by any chance?

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Ryan Cook
Ryan Cook

Is that one canceled yet or is it still in the phase where they pretend they can afford it?

Gavin Stewart
Gavin Stewart

How about two double-barrel aft guns?

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Brayden Anderson
Brayden Anderson

There is no need to be upset :^)

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Oliver Davis
Oliver Davis

Daily reminder that Russian Naval Jack is older than the US as a country.
crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ru~xviii.html#1700j

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Brayden Hall
Brayden Hall

What the FUCK why is it going out angled like that

Luke Reyes
Luke Reyes

42035286
Statistics are unimportant, and are to be ridiculed

That's like 16/50 BLM line of defence.

Caleb Rogers
Caleb Rogers

Scary to think the UK is hell bent on demilitarising itself, yet the real super powers continue to push further

Owen Reed
Owen Reed

The 5 stages of Russian wunderwaffe:

Stage 1: The "Leak". NEW INVINCIBLE SUPERWEAPON """leaked""" to press

Stage 2: The Reaction. Media & Jow Forums all hail the weapon as an invincible doomsday device that the West stands no chance against. Lots of "sky is falling" and declarations of Russian resurgence.

Stage 3: The Interim. Stories start to leak out regarding issues and slowed development. Doesn't get much notice.

Stage 4: The Downgrade. Russia quietly states less will be built than previously announced, or that the device will have less capabilities than previously thought.

Stage 5: The Cancellation. Russia quietly cancels the device. Stage 1 for new device few months later.

Henry Jenkins
Henry Jenkins

It's going to be a real bad-ass when it enters service in 2012.

Caleb Barnes
Caleb Barnes

Because the launch tubes are installed at an angle on every P-700 carrier, presumably to reduce the height, since these are fairly large missiles.

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Samuel Lopez
Samuel Lopez

The 5 stages of Russian wunderwaffe:
Stage 1-4: > a company proposes their own project that is developed by their own initiative and uses media to adv. the said project
Stage 5: >MoD refuses to buy it
That's all. 2/3 of Jow Forums shitposting about Russian wunderwaffes are posts about projects that were not ordered by MoD.

IRL, 5 stages looks like that:
1 - shit is classified
2 - shit is leaked to specialized forums (that stage can last for decades)
3 - MoD refuses to acknowledge the existence of that weapon
4 - MoD tells that weapon existed, but it was canceled because of high costs.
---Jow Forums shitposting begins here---
5 - weapon is suddenly deployed.

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Josiah Brooks
Josiah Brooks

You're preaching to deaf ears.
2/3 of Jow Forums shitposting about Russian wunderwaffes are posts about projects that were not ordered by MoD.
That's because the absolute majority of Jow Forums are firearms fags that like do dress in women's clothes and stick their AR-15 up their asses who have completely no clue about how military industrial complex functions.

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Jaxson Murphy
Jaxson Murphy

when they sent their aircraft carrier to the Mediterranean to conduct strikes in Syria they had to send a tug along with it to help it manoeuvre

Joseph Rivera
Joseph Rivera

You sound mildly upset.

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Nolan Bailey
Nolan Bailey

Post guns, before You judge other anons.

Lincoln Roberts
Lincoln Roberts

Believing vatnik lies

Michael Mitchell
Michael Mitchell

a company proposes their own project that is developed by their own initiative and uses media to adv. the said project

As if rußian MIC wasn't the bunch of retards leeching 40% GDP via bribery, nepotism and corruption.
There are no "own" funds in the Oboronka and no amount of rußians lying through their teeth will ever change that.

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Ian Young
Ian Young

One is rated as nominally functional but has no weapons loaded and is likely unsafe to operate. The other has been in refit for 21 years and is unlikely to ever reenter service.

Luis Thomas
Luis Thomas

P-700 is primarily a submarine launched anti ship missile. They just tacked it on surface warships. Before launch, ships have to flood the launchers with water to simulate a launch from a submarine.

Isaac Moore
Isaac Moore

why would I be upset about an aircraft carrier needing a tug to accompany it?

Samuel Jenkins
Samuel Jenkins

I have no idea why would you be upset about such a weird fantasy.

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Carter Stewart
Carter Stewart

it happened, not fantasy

John Perez
John Perez

only dreams

Jackson Reed
Jackson Reed

it happened
Sure it did, in your head.

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Tyler Morales
Tyler Morales

lulwut?

Eli Cook
Eli Cook

The ones people like to laugh at on here, like the SU-57, are definitely not private defense companies (Which don't really exist in Russia anyway) hoping to make sales- they're state projects.

Lucas Hall
Lucas Hall

popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a18141/towing-admiral-kuznetsov-video-tugboat/
Okay vatniks

Joseph Myers
Joseph Myers

seething russian cope

Jonathan Myers
Jonathan Myers

The ones people like to laugh at on here, like the SU-57
The first prototype of Su-57 made its maiden flight in 2010, 7 years later in 2017 the first prototype of the final airframe made its maiden flight, on the same year the production engine made its maiden flight, the next year the aircraft launched weapons in combat in Syria and 1 year after that in 2019 a contract for 76 aircraft was signed.
Laughing without a reason is a sign of stupidity.

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Lucas Perez
Lucas Perez

when they sent their aircraft carrier to the Mediterranean to conduct strikes in Syria they had to send a tug along with it to help it manoeuvre
"In February 2012..."
Why are you so upset?

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Adam Turner
Adam Turner

I’m not but you were apparently in denial about the tugboat

Ethan Hernandez
Ethan Hernandez

If you're supposedly not upset, why are you posting a link to an article about February 2012 in response to a claim about the events that took place in late 2016?

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Brayden Butler
Brayden Butler

I’m not upset

Jason Brooks
Jason Brooks

A
FUCKING
RAMP

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Bentley Brooks
Bentley Brooks

Have you fixed your rustbucket after it ended it's climate change inducing voyage in a crane accident yet?

Jace Rogers
Jace Rogers

Probably the only based and functioning part of the ship.

Juan Garcia
Juan Garcia

medium.com/dfrlab/is-russia-retiring-the-kuznetsov-likely-not-yet-146863d02c02

Jonathan Hill
Jonathan Hill

one is literally being upgraded as of now
the second one as per russians they are still trying to decide if its going to be a testbed or a full blown ship
which all things considered i hope it becomes a testbed

Liam Nelson
Liam Nelson

how's your type 45 doin?

Christopher Jackson
Christopher Jackson

Su-47 was an initiative project, Su-57 was too, they began work on it before getting order from MoD. Same goes to a dozens of T-90 and T-72 modifications, BMPT, several Su-27 modifications, a lot of armored cars projects, trucks, and so on. More or less all the "Russia will build a super ship" news are news about projects that were not ordered by MoD. Both carrier projects are in that stage too. They are not approved by MoD, yet news about "Russia will have a supercarrier" are all around.

Okay vatniks
Tugboats and tankers are part of auxiliary fleet. Not contractors, like in UK case.

Charles Hill
Charles Hill

Kek

Carter Kelly
Carter Kelly

send a tugboat to help the damn thing to man
keeps spamming the thread like its a big deal

Camden Myers
Camden Myers

he can't attack ground targets
Lol, are you retarded?
The crew of the nuclear submarine cruiser Tomsk of the Pacific Fleet today in the Sea of Okhotsk successfully launched a cruise missile at a coastal target.
news.rambler.ru/articles/37389093-granitnyy-udar-podvodnogo-kreysera-tomsk/

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David Clark
David Clark

I wish the USN built a nuclear-powered battlecruiser.
The USN has already tried to operate a fleet of nuclear-powered cruisers. It, uhm, how do I put it ...wasn't very effective.

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Asher Flores
Asher Flores

Is that an actual article or is it some April fools joke?

Brayden Watson
Brayden Watson

That's a sub, not a kirov.

Mason Gutierrez
Mason Gutierrez

Retarded meme-poster

"Oboronka"
No such word, user

Henry Flores
Henry Flores

tugboats are part of the fleet, of course they sail around the world and aren't just used in port!

Jaxson Taylor
Jaxson Taylor

A
FUCKING
RAMP
I'll take the Prius

Alexander Green
Alexander Green

You realize it's the same system, right? Like, literally, to the point the missile tube on the cruiser has to be filled with water before the launch to imitate the launch from a submerged submarine?

Caleb Campbell
Caleb Campbell

hahaha

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Austin Long
Austin Long

T. durak

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Jackson Torres
Jackson Torres

42036057
More whataboutism?

Isaac Ortiz
Isaac Ortiz

Before launch, ships have to flood the launchers with water to simulate a launch from a submarine.
what?

Carter Watson
Carter Watson

yes, the country that is building two supercarriers is "demilitarizing" itself
you're an abject retard

Dylan Martinez
Dylan Martinez

super
That word does not mean what you think it means
PROPTIP: if it has a ramp, it is not a supercarrier

Zachary Baker
Zachary Baker

What deck material is that, red painted metal?

Lucas Gonzalez
Lucas Gonzalez

it's a radical carrier

Colton Carter
Colton Carter

What he said. It's to prevent the immense heat from the booster from damaging the launch system and increase missile system's component interchangeability.

Jaxon Miller
Jaxon Miller

If it has catobar, you're gonna have a bad time.

Daniel Nelson
Daniel Nelson

windows on a sub
Why ? it's not like there's something to see 100 m under the sea.

Blake Carter
Blake Carter

It's only for when the sub is surfaced, the room with windows fills with water during submersion.

Parker Gonzalez
Parker Gonzalez

Where is the tsushima meme, or the glorious crane battle when situation demands it?

Lucas Butler
Lucas Butler

Russia has a history of filling the rest of the sub with water as well, desu

Juan Wood
Juan Wood

I remember watching the kursk disaster on the news. Still terrifies me. Russian sailors would be alive if it wasn't for their govt refusing US and UK offers of assistance.

Grayson Evans
Grayson Evans

Just let us near you top secret submarine, what could possibly go wrong
You have the millennial man child understanding of the word duty.

Colton Moore
Colton Moore

Ayup, the usual coverup of murderous rußian incompetence by bravado and secrecy.

Nicholas Perez
Nicholas Perez

900 N

Levi Cox
Levi Cox

Incompetence is somehow a justification for letting enemies near your state secrets
Millennial man child incarnate.

Nicholas Cook
Nicholas Cook

Design wasn't new so there wouldn't be any secrets to find. I'm sure those sailors were totally thinking about "duty" as they died.

Elijah Hill
Elijah Hill

aren't just used in port!
With current political situation they're better to rely on themselves. Also, Admiral Kuznetsov's engine is notoriously bad.

Camden Gomez
Camden Gomez

retard

Carter Morales
Carter Morales

peak performance
Pyotr Velikiy with Granit
Not the superior Admiral Nakhimov with UKSK VLS for Onik and Kalibr.

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Nicholas Green
Nicholas Green

There are no "own" funds in the Oboronka
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

Luke Hughes
Luke Hughes

implying any rußian sub possess secrets not already known to NATO

Call me again, when You rebuild ranks of Unit 45707 after the Losharik disaster. 14 high ranking officers, an admiral's son, two Heroes of Federation, all bearing the Top Secret clearance..
That must hurt

Liam Lee
Liam Lee

Most of those for SAM

Joshua Smith
Joshua Smith

Design wasn't new so there wouldn't be any secrets to find
Lol, ok retard.

Colton Reyes
Colton Reyes

See, the thing is that's more than your limithophe appendix of a "country" has ever had.

Brody Ward
Brody Ward

Whatever, kid.

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Andrew Gomez
Andrew Gomez

42036821
(You)
At your pitiful attempt

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Chase Russell
Chase Russell

Retard, after failing numerous times to gain access to the sub the Russians finally asked for help and Norwegians were the ones who actually conducted the rescue operation. Lmfao.

Over four days, the Russian Navy failed to attach four different diving bells and submersibles to the escape hatch. The navy's response was criticised as slow and inept. The government misled and manipulated the public and news media, and refused help from other governments. President Vladimir Putin initially continued his vacation at a seaside resort, and only on the fifth day authorized the navy to accept British and Norwegian offers of assistance. Seven days after the sinking, Norwegian divers finally opened a hatch to the escape trunk in the boat's flooded ninth compartment to find no survivors.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk_submarine_disaster

Noah Bailey
Noah Bailey

Changed Your mind already, have You?

Or do You mean billions found in Alexander Gomzin's pocket?
defenseone.com/technology/2018/04/designer-russias-first-armed-drone-under-arrest/147751/

Adrian Perry
Adrian Perry

Thee engine itself is exceptionally good, the destroyers propelled by it have made it around the world several times without a single cough. It's the lack of maintenance and spare parts in the 90s that ruined sensitive engine equipment beyond any real repair.

Ethan Carter
Ethan Carter

Arresting a corrupt official is bad because...?

Ryan Fisher
Ryan Fisher

It's all fault of Yeltisn, Gorbachev and democracy in '90
But the power generators and security circuits on PG-50 dry dock has been stolen for scraps only recently.

Jose Sanders
Jose Sanders

That's pretty neat.

Ryan Anderson
Ryan Anderson

So where these money come from? State owned military factory being paid by the rußian state?

Benjamin Gonzalez
Benjamin Gonzalez

If you're trying to convince everyone, that Stalin did nothing wrong, you're doing a great job. It's not the point. Point is that you have no idea about structure of Russian defense industry.

Josiah Williams
Josiah Williams

You avoid answering my question, like a handling a hot potato. Maybe You are an Rußian Latverian?

Logan Jackson
Logan Jackson

Yes, the lack of maintenance is the fault of Yeltsin. Gorbachev in the other hand was genuinely trying to save the country. Look up 1991 Soviet referendum and the Union of Sovereign States.

Nicholas Perez
Nicholas Perez

Based russian navy.

youtube.com/watch?v=uTYkcnJdDio

Brandon Stewart
Brandon Stewart

It's a local clown eternally butthurt about Russia, don't waste your time talking to him.

Nathan Cook
Nathan Cook

Your question has no connection to my point, that you've got no idea about a structure of Russian military companies and their funding, especially those who are building their own projects before MoD orders.

Adam Hill
Adam Hill

local
kraut/lauta cancer

Jeremiah Sanders
Jeremiah Sanders

Enlighten us then. Or just say
RBMK reactors doesn't explode
instead.

Leo Hernandez
Leo Hernandez

GENERAL QUARTERS

Brandon Bailey
Brandon Bailey

What did he mean by this?

Levi Nelson
Levi Nelson

Eh, at this point I think such threads are CIA strawman, aimed to lure clueless slavaboos and ridiculize Russian gear by flexing non - existent muscles.

Mason Hall
Mason Hall

Just a little hint: Joint-stock company

Jayden Murphy
Jayden Murphy

one is all you need

Julian Rogers
Julian Rogers

?

Adam Moore
Adam Moore

You actually need two to guarantee one is always available.

Lucas Stewart
Lucas Stewart

Different posters, vlad.

Jack Butler
Jack Butler

Russian anything
working

Andrew Lewis
Andrew Lewis

the red decks are so pretty

David Rodriguez
David Rodriguez

The CGNs were kickass but expensive; what are you on about?

Angel Edwards
Angel Edwards

headed for the scrap yard
peak performance

Jose Adams
Jose Adams

Sell it to China for a billion $. Get 2 new SSN - things Russia is actually good at.

The Chinese get a new huge platform to go crazy with.

Adam Peterson
Adam Peterson

hot launch
Ehh, I prefer cold launched missiles. The way they orient themselves in air before firing the main booster is so sexy.

Aaron Mitchell
Aaron Mitchell

russian "navy"

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Elijah Allen
Elijah Allen

Most of those SAMs can target surface ships

Dominic Stewart
Dominic Stewart

nu/k/ is so paranoid about vatniks and buttblasted about russia they can't enjoy cool ships for being cool ships
I want everyone who came here after 2012 permabanned

Gavin Stewart
Gavin Stewart

peak performance
It has the same problems as the Kuznetsov-class CV
Needs convetional boilers supplementing the reactor
in order to pump out enough steam for the turbines.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_nuclear_and_steam_propulsion
Russia never got the hang of above-water nuclear power

Ethan Russell
Ethan Russell

Russia never got the hang of above-water nuclear power
youtube.com/watch?v=VVtDX46cTJQ

Zachary Martinez
Zachary Martinez

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin_(1957_icebreaker)

In February 1965, there was a loss-of-coolant accident. After being shut down for refueling, the coolant was removed from the number two reactor before the spent fuel had been removed. As a result, some of the fuel elements melted and deformed inside the reactor. This was discovered when the spent elements were being unloaded for storage and disposal. 124 fuel assemblies (about 60% of the total) were stuck in the reactor core. It was decided to remove the fuel, control grid, and control rods as a unit for disposal; they were placed in a special cask, solidified, stored for two years, and dumped in Tsivolki Bay (near the Novaya Zemlya archipelago) in 1967.

The second accident was a cooling system leak which occurred in 1967, shortly after refueling. Finding the leak required breaking through the concrete and metal biological shield with sledgehammers. Once the leak was found, it became apparent that the sledgehammer damage could not be repaired; subsequently, all three reactors were removed by blowing them off the ship with shaped charges above a burial site off Novaya Zemlya,[4] and replaced by two OK-900 reactors. This was completed in early 1970.[5]

Jesus Cristo, sledgehammers and reactors should not mix (nevermind that they managed to not notice a partial meltdown)

Jacob Brown
Jacob Brown

Neither should screwdrivers and plutonium.

Aaron Williams
Aaron Williams

Complementary to the nuclear component there are two conventional boilers, installed as a backup in case of reactor failure.
That's not what you're claiming tho

Jackson Hernandez
Jackson Hernandez

U.S navy

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Liam Miller
Liam Miller

all three reactors were removed by blowing them off the ship with shaped charges above a burial site
What

Russian reactor disposal protocols: blow the side of the ship off, hope the reactors fall out, call it a day?

Brody Hill
Brody Hill

those are just festive 4th of july fireworks

Gavin Martin
Gavin Martin

I'm sure at this point, the background radiation around most Russian naval bases is so high, it doesn't really matter how they dispose of the reactors.

Evan Rivera
Evan Rivera

In practice, the reactor outputs barely half of its alleged steam volume and the oil-fired boilers barely work on a good day
kuz engine room for reference

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Ayden Anderson
Ayden Anderson

Those have been torn out last year, shorty before the crane fell on it.

Jace Carter
Jace Carter

Such is life.

James Thomas
James Thomas

And then things got worse.
Russian history in 5 words!
Explains Trotsky and Dostoevsky...

Samuel Cooper
Samuel Cooper

Da.

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Isaac Miller
Isaac Miller

*Tolstoy, not Trotsky

Julian Kelly
Julian Kelly

*blocks your path

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Nolan Barnes
Nolan Barnes

nice tugboats

Christopher Brooks
Christopher Brooks

Who would win:

The Kuzzy in her current state with her regular air complenent
The USS Kittyhawk, pulled from mothballs, manned by random reservists and with the Royal Canadian Airforce as the only airgroup

Anthony Anderson
Anthony Anderson

I like them small.

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Cameron Anderson
Cameron Anderson

Indeed they are Ivan. Need us to loan them to you?

Angel King
Angel King

At least give the Kuznetsov a chance..

Christopher Cruz
Christopher Cruz

What's that barrel on top?

David Ross
David Ross

It's also to ensure that if the missile's motor fails to ignite (launch is via cold gas), the missile will fall into the water and not onto the deck.

Ian Mitchell
Ian Mitchell

Get 2 new SSN - things Russia is actually good at.
Like their super duper stealth new stealth one that has a massive accoustic signature?

David Nelson
David Nelson

Okay, it also gets 4 tugboats.

Daniel Fisher
Daniel Fisher

Yes the ones that travel through Norway and Sweden daily and NATO is happy to detect one or two per year.

Jackson Russell
Jackson Russell

With Russian SRB the danger isn't that it won't light. The booster is made of fuel and oxidizer, and beyond a total failure of the ignition it's going to start.

The danger is that they explode about one time in twenty, rather then a controlled burn, because voids that form in the SRB. With a cold launch you have the advantage that it's not inside the ship when this happens, meaning it's just bad and not catastrophic.

Chase Wood
Chase Wood

Granit is hot launched.

Isaiah Parker
Isaiah Parker

1960s
Next time at least make an attempt.

Hunter Evans
Hunter Evans

They were expensive and extremely ineffective, not worth having nuclear propulsion.

Asher Morales
Asher Morales

Actually it is because they do not know how to make VLS. Their first VLS is their current system which is shit by Tomahawk standards.

Dominic Bennett
Dominic Bennett

See And stay mad, lol.

Eli Morris
Eli Morris

Russians had the first operational naval VLS in the world, you absolute fucking drooling imbecile.

Gavin King
Gavin King

Why do they all have gasmasks on?

Adrian Taylor
Adrian Taylor

Because it's military exercises, obviously.

Gavin Baker
Gavin Baker

Like this?

You have shit taste. I bet you watch Sumo too.

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Dylan Phillips
Dylan Phillips

seething vatnik. Yeah, I bet you have sources too right? Like some Russian propaganda website, amirite? If they had VLS, they would've been using it already.

Brandon Wood
Brandon Wood

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_cruiser_Azov
Fucking drooling retard, fuck off to pol.

John Sanders
John Sanders

Coal storage container

Aiden Cox
Aiden Cox

Yes, those who NATO detect every time they leave or enter port.

Ryan Carter
Ryan Carter

Yes, daddy.

Kevin Moore
Kevin Moore

And it's still just a flanker with a ricer bodykit, slavtard.

Camden Hernandez
Camden Hernandez

Russian aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov" with sensors and systems indicated:
1) MR-750 Fregat-MA surveillance radar; 2) Rezistor K4 aircraft homing system; 3) Kristal-BK satellite navigation and communication system (second one aft); 4) MR-350 Podkat low-level surveillance radar (second one aft); 5) Mars-Passat surveillance radar (four flat aerials on all sides); 6) Korall-BN control system for Granit missiles (second one on the port side aft); 7) Kinjal SAM control radars (four on all corners); 8) Vaygach-1143 navigation radar (second one aft); 9) Kantata-11435 ECM system.

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Jason Gonzalez
Jason Gonzalez

More like russophobe rectum incinerator.

Ian Adams
Ian Adams

Stay mad.

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Zachary Kelly
Zachary Kelly

drydock sinks you
it's incompetence, Ivan

Jeremiah Anderson
Jeremiah Anderson

given that the Kuz has a huge gaping hole in its deck, it's no contest.

if you mean 2016 Kuz? Well, probably 50/50 chance

Jason Gray
Jason Gray

No, it does not, retard.

Thomas Myers
Thomas Myers

lol

Cooper Thomas
Cooper Thomas

Kuznetsov would simply fire her missiles.

Adrian Brown
Adrian Brown

year of our Lord 2019
still underestimating the Russian military
This could be excusable back in 2011, but no longer.

Brandon Morales
Brandon Morales

lolwut?
Russian Army has not been relevant since 1940's.

Brody Sanchez
Brody Sanchez

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Jackson Johnson
Jackson Johnson

I guess you missed the absolutely flawless Russian involvement in Syria, which puts all Western militaries to shame when it comes to actually getting shit done.

Charles Fisher
Charles Fisher

ISIS is still alive, American planes can do that amount of sorties a day but chose not to do so because Americans are capable of more efficient and more powerful weapons that what Russia can bring to the Syrian table.

Ayden Phillips
Ayden Phillips

ISIS is still alive
Not in Syria, it isn't.
American planes can do that amount of sorties a day but chose not to
I guess that's why ISIS activity in the region only began to plummet after the Russian intervention started.

Justin Thomas
Justin Thomas

more like: "Why should Murica bomb their own pack of ZOG-Wahabists?"

Kayden Fisher
Kayden Fisher

I guess that's why ISIS activity in the region only began to plummet after the Russian intervention started.
Are you insinuating that ISIS is funded by Russia? If so then you have a point.

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

No, I'm insinuating that one of two things is true : either the US military didn't want to fight ISIS, or the US military didn't know how to fight ISIS effectively.
But if you want to cling to your illusions as to the US being pure and worthy, and/or the US military being competent, feel free to ignore the last 70 years of world history, lad.

James Butler
James Butler

If you discount the whole thing about having to tow their only "operational" carrier there and back home again maybe.

Brody Watson
Brody Watson

"Flawless"
The vast majority of anti-ISIS fighting was done by the West and GCC inside Iraq. Russia and their embarrassing facade hardly factor in

Juan Campbell
Juan Campbell

What type of engines are those, Diesel?

Henry Wright
Henry Wright

Russia and their embarrassing facade hardly factor in

Except for BTFOing all of ISIS west of the Euphrates, while the US used airstrikes to shepherd allies to travel West into Syria.

Not to mention Russia is also currently destroying the ISIS of Western Syria, aka HTS/Nusra Front/FSA, currently all of Idlib.

Fuck off with your ass-hurt MUTTNIK lies.

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Liam Sanchez
Liam Sanchez

Say what you want about the Russian navy, but at least they're not letting women ruin everything like the US and UK

Tyler Bailey
Tyler Bailey

The primary function of an aircraft carrier is to be a moving airfield. The Admiral Kuznetsov was perfectly usable in this regard.
The vast majority of anti-ISIS fighting was done by the West and GCC inside Iraq
Right, you turned Mosul into a pile of rubble, killing tens of thousands of civilians into the process, and completely failed to remove ISIS from the region. It's already starting to spring back into action as we speak. Excellent job.

Jose Allen
Jose Allen

they're not letting women ruin everything
Russian men seem to be more than capable of doing that on their own.

Kevin Walker
Kevin Walker

independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/navy-nuclear-submarine-sex-drugs-cocaine-hms-vigilant-trident-vanguard-women-in-armed-forces-a8024506.html

Jose Jenkins
Jose Jenkins

I would like vodka fueled hijinks over cocaine fueled degeneracy any day

Jacob Lewis
Jacob Lewis

Junior officer LTJG Sarah Coppock pleaded guilty to a single criminal charge of "dereliction in the performance of duties through neglect contributing to the deaths" for her role in the collision.

Carson Cooper
Carson Cooper

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_Hultgreen

Ethan Jackson
Ethan Jackson

It won’t reach FOC until 20 years after the F-22 entered service, wont be procured in any real numbers, and it’s doubtful that the RCS is smaller than the F-22.

Meanwhile, the US already has more F-35s than Su-57s are even planned and will eventually get 2000 of the fuckers.
inb4 armatard asking how many F-22s in whatever year as if that has any relevance.

Liam Howard
Liam Howard

Daily reminder that we may soon be living in a world where Poland operates more 5th gen fighters than Russia.

Christian Ross
Christian Ross

F-35
come-on-now.jpg
Meanwhile the F-22's only real advantage over other aircraft is stealth, it lost simulated dogfights to the fucking Rafale of all things several times. And as the US learned in Serbia, stealth is actually just a meme.

Angel Cox
Angel Cox

"There are many disbelievers in
stealth, more than a few of them truly technically ignorant and proud of it."-Sherm Mullin, Skunk works

Xavier Brooks
Xavier Brooks

F-35 is bad
single BFM exercises mean anything
getting the outcome of that specific BFM exercise wrong
Serbia stealth is a meme
You’re fucking retarded.

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Gavin Collins
Gavin Collins

t. part of a company that pushes the stealth meme
What were you expecting him to say ?

Owen Taylor
Owen Taylor

Okay. This is the part where you prove that you're smarter than the military planners and aerospace engineers of:
US
UK
Russia
China
EU
Japan
S. Korea
Let's hear it.

Justin Moore
Justin Moore

If stealth is a meme then why is every country with an air force trying to get it? I mean fuck, even the chinks using their J-20s in their version of red flag are saying that it’s a huge leap over their older airframes.

Is every air force in the world wrong or are you? Use those top notch thinking skills.

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Lincoln Sullivan
Lincoln Sullivan

And as the US learned in Serbia
They learned alright, they fixed the flaw that got it shot down in the first place. Flying missions routinely in the same area didn't help it.

Justin Smith
Justin Smith

It won’t reach FOC until 20 years after the F-22 entered service
Cool story, care to provide a single source suggesting this?
20 years after the F-22 entered service
It's almost as if something happened in Russia about 30 years ago that postponed their military program schedules.
wont be procured in any real numbers
Your opinion on what "real numbers" are is irrelevant.
it’s doubtful that the RCS is smaller than the F-22
It is irrelevant what you find doubtful. Chief designer commented their goals regarding RCS long ago.
Meanwhile, the US already has more F-35s than Su-57s
And? What do they care about your F-35? Go try to use them against Russia and watch your country incinerate in several thousands artificial sunrises.

Asher Hall
Asher Hall

To be fair, stealth tech is indeed a significant step forward, but it's still nowhere near as effective as fighter aircraft manufacturers like to claim it is, at least for now. And it's also horrendously expensive and really hard to implement effectively, to the point that it can become detrimental to other essential areas of an aircraft.
The F-35 is a whole other matter, though. How such a complete turd of a plane ever got designed, I will never understand.

Lucas Young
Lucas Young

And it's also horrendously expensive and really hard to implement effectively
That was true in the 1980s. It is not true now. The F-35 costs less than it's western European/US competitors.
to the point that it can become detrimental to other essential areas of an aircraft
Such as?
The F-35 is a whole other matter, though
It is the very best fighter available now, with the possible exception of the F-22 in a pure air superiority context (Though that is debatable).

Josiah Clark
Josiah Clark

42045976
thousands artificial sunrises
Why does this guy always use this phrase? It's always shortly followed by the same 3 pictures of Russian ICBMs launching, seemingly ignoring the fact that NATO has nukes too.

Hudson Ortiz
Hudson Ortiz

ITS ACTUALLY ONLY 15 YEARS LATE!!
20 years, 15 years, whatever. Even 10 years would be sad.
excuses
Irrelevant. Life isn’t fair and shit happens, excuses for why they’re behind doesn’t change the fact that they are.
having an air force that has 1/10th of the 5th gens as a single country they consider their main adversary isn’t objectively bad!
Oh yeah man it’s fucking great. 200 is a smaller number than 2300.
RCS
All hearsay and not worth arguing but considering the vast difference in funding and experience with RAM it’s not crazy to think that Russia is still behind. Rivets, speherical IRST and lack of S-Ducts doesn’t help.
Muh nukes, what does Russia care?
Comparing aircraft to their contemporaries is a great way to gauge their relative capability and is important when considering exports and regional conflicts. Reminder that the Poos backed out of the Su-57 program and they now want F-35s but won’t get them.

Aiden Myers
Aiden Myers

stay mad amerimutts, the f-22 is just an updated, stealthy version of the most successful fighter design in history
Even if this were true, which it isn't, it wouldn't change the fact that the f-22 is 1000 times better than any slavshit.

Julian Butler
Julian Butler

If the enemy can’t detect you until they’re well within the no escape zone of your amraams then it’s safe to say that they’re at a huge disadvantage. VLO aircraft get to dictate if, when, and where they engage.

Evan Lopez
Evan Lopez

lmao Russian fighters are shit
To an extent, yes, but their AA is considerably better than anything else in existence, which is arguably way more valuable to them, given their geopolitical situation.

Hudson White
Hudson White

considerably better
Eh

Pantsir is a flop, And their other systems haven't done great either

Cameron Morales
Cameron Morales

which is arguably way more valuable to them
Like you said, due to their overall situation. Fighters are a much better solution if you can afford/train them. You can't turn a SAM into a multirole strike platform, and you can't use SEAD against a fighter.

Levi Gutierrez
Levi Gutierrez

Facts are irrelevant if they get in the way of my uncontrollable urge to meme and shitpost
No surprises here.
But muh opinion
Your opinion is irrelevant.
hearsay
Surely direct words of the chief designer are but a hearsay, now you, a butthurt no-name anonymous faggot from Jow Forums, on the other hand is a beacon of verity.
Fuck off, clown.

Josiah Green
Josiah Green

Why does this guy always use this phrase?
Because it's a beautiful analogy and I like it.

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Josiah Lewis
Josiah Lewis

seemingly ignoring the fact that NATO has nukes too
The premise that Russia gives a fuck about the amount of F-35 the US can potentially crap out into service breaks against the indisputable fact that any war with Russia that could endanger the existence of the country will end in the enemy getting being scorched away from the surface of the planet.

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Cooper Bailey
Cooper Bailey

Agreed. Russia, though, has no need to project power on the same scale as the US, and it stands to reason, given their history, that they'd focus heavily on their own defence and on spreading weapon systems that are able to shoot down US gear with ease, in order to restrict American interference in what they perceive to be their sphere of influence.
Sure, the Russians can't keep up in all areas of military tech, but they're arguably much better than the Americans at identifying what they need to focus on.

Justin Wilson
Justin Wilson

it’s only 18!!!! You said 20!!!!
sorry man I rounded up two years
it’s subjective to say that 70 aircraft isn’t a lot compared to 2000
You’re objectively retarded.
the designer
Post what he said. Last I heard it had an average RCS of 0.1m^2. Based on the knowledge that the US has been building stealth aircraft for longer and has more money to throw into material science it’s fairly safe to assume that at the very least their RAM is more advanced.

Henry Price
Henry Price

pantsir is a flop
Not really when you have to launch 13+ missiles to overload and destroy one.
It's performance in Syria doesn't really prove anything since it is a point defense system that should normally be a part of a multi-layer network and was brought there to counter UAVs, not IAF airstrikes.

Jack Parker
Jack Parker

I will just keep shitposing, surely this time my memeing will work
It won't. Your opinion on anything is absolutely irrelevant. You are no one and ony due to living in the society infested with post-modernist relativism you are deluded to believe that an opinion of some no-name anonymous retard like yourself is worth shit. It's not. Fuck off, go read a book or two.
compared
No one gives a fuck about your comparisons.
Post what he said
vivovoco.astronet.ru/VV/JOURNAL/VRAN/03_10/STELLS.HTM
it’s fairly safe to assume that at the very least their RAM is more advanced
No, it is not. You are no one, you are not a specialist of any sort, nor know a single fucking thing about RAM. Your assumptions are worthless.

Cooper Jones
Cooper Jones

Warship are not unarmed fishing boat.

Nathan Ward
Nathan Ward

Oh please do go on about how your any more experienced than the other guy

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Jack Brown
Jack Brown

Said the memespouting mobilefag

Josiah Williams
Josiah Williams

Are you bragging that the military is so bad it needs to be backed by the strategic nuclear forces to represent a threat?

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Christopher Nguyen
Christopher Nguyen

Nice Cope ivan

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Hudson Brooks
Hudson Brooks

No, I'm saying that the military doesn't give a shit how many F-35 can Americans crap put.

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Gabriel Turner
Gabriel Turner

Russia's military becomes increasingly dependent on obsolete equipment

I guarantee you they care.

Dylan Cox
Dylan Cox

obsolete
Lol, you wish, clown.

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Jose Robinson
Jose Robinson

Nukes are literally the only defense the country has

Literally North Korea tier

Sebastian Garcia
Sebastian Garcia

Nothing else matters.

Alexander Carter
Alexander Carter

No, nukes just allow the country to give zero fucks about how many F-35 can Americans crap out.

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Alexander Powell
Alexander Powell

That's rapidly where Russia's approaching at this point. Nukes are certainly useful for maintaining territorial defense without putting much strain on conventional forces, but you can't reliably influence global events outside of your country with nuclear weapons. Unless Russia decides it's going to start resorting to some sort of supervillain-esque policy of holding the world hostage every time something doesn't go their way on the world stage, the country's increasingly-anemic military capabilities relative to the US, China, and EU will make it harder for them to project power outside their borders.

Oliver Walker
Oliver Walker

That's all you really need.

And North Korea can't realistically strike the US.

Russia can vaporize most of the US urban centres.

Mason Jones
Mason Jones

This. As long as you get within striking distance, then the stealth or RCS reduction has done its part. As an example, the F-35 needs its VLO since it can only carry glide bombs with a max range of 100km. This means it needs to fly atleast within 80km+ of the target in order to strike. While the Su-57 can make do with its LO configuration because it carries standoff cruise missiles capable of 400+km max range. So although an F-35 can detect it first if it comes within 100km, it doesn't need to. The Su-57 can drop munitions from 350 km away and leave before he gets within F-35 range.

Jacob Jackson
Jacob Jackson

not caring about the strengths and weaknesses as well as force compisition of a potential opponent

This statement dumb as rocks.

Benjamin Jackson
Benjamin Jackson

The F-35 has several weapons that have a much greater range than the SDB/JDAM.

Justin Roberts
Justin Roberts

That's all you really need.

Not if you want a greater geopolitical influence it isn't, its fine if you're a weird hermit kingdom but the fact you don't have a military that could be a major benefit in an alliance is going to make it damn near impossible to challenge any other military power in swaying other countries in any serious alliance.

Henry Jenkins
Henry Jenkins

Nukes are important, but not the end all be all some people make them out to be. They are best used as a deterrent, not as actual weapons to be used.

Mason Bell
Mason Bell

UHHHH what is JASSM ER and JSM

Camden Anderson
Camden Anderson

what is jsow/jassm/nsm

You're not completely wrong tho. The first night of the war is long-ranged weapons to cripple IADS. Stealth-enabled glide bombs are for cheaply upping aimpoint rate on days 2-7. Missiles are more economical for total wars (ICBMs) and rare Tomahawk strikes, but the bomb/stealth combo is cheaper for periodically crushing mid-level powers, which is the duty of a superpower.

tl;dr America uses stealth because it's a superpower, Russia copes because it isn't, and Russian cope is great for fooling people who don't understand MIC economics.

Jordan Roberts
Jordan Roberts

It has a bank of fuel-oil boilers that generate steam for a turbine, which runs into a reduction gearbox to run the propellers and feeds the catapults. Normally a very reliable system, but from what we have seen they don't take very good care of the system at all. My guess is that their oil atomizers are broken and the boiler is furred as fuck from low-quality fuel, based on how much smoke she spews whenever she leaves port.

Easton Scott
Easton Scott

Getting involved into an unnecessary arms race against something that you can and will reduce to atoms in case shit hits the fan
Your strategy is dumb as rocks.

Cameron Jenkins
Cameron Jenkins

You can't form strong defense agreements without being able to offer conventional military benefits.

Aiden King
Aiden King

What defense agreements? We're talking about not wasting resources to compete against something that you can and will reduce to dust if it was to be used against you.

Hudson Campbell
Hudson Campbell

What defense agreements?

NATO countries strengthen their defense ties with joint projects and technology exchange, China is bolstering its own ties with Pakistan with new equipment and offers defense agreements with the African countries its trying to develop. Russia can't offer anything and is basically forced into a more and more isolated position.

Owen Cruz
Owen Cruz

T.Assmad Vatnik

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Jacob Torres
Jacob Torres

MAD is a meme. I wish Oppenheimer was here.

Kevin Butler
Kevin Butler

Trotsky was pretty shit.
There's a reason people went along with Stalin's heavy handedness and it wasn't fear

Jason Richardson
Jason Richardson

Is this some sort of elaborate damage control about Turkey preferring S-400 to F-35, and Germany ditching F-35 completely in favour of a joint project with France?

Jonathan Bennett
Jonathan Bennett

Arms race is a meme. Nukes are a way to avoid it.

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Logan Thompson
Logan Thompson

The French and Germans didn’t ditch the F-35 because they were never part of it and Turkey well it’s their loss

Connor Taylor
Connor Taylor

No, Turkey bought the missiles as protest and I think you'll find both France and Germany are members of NATO.

Arms race is a meme.

Nuclear arms races exist and nukes alone is a terrible strategy.

William Scott
William Scott

Soviet union lost the arms race and Moscow will lose the nuclear deterrent through preplanned balaknization after Putin's death. Such is price for not keeping up with the world.

Isaiah Reyes
Isaiah Reyes

looking at history, that didn't seem to have worked
there was still an arms race even with both sides having nukes

Colton Moore
Colton Moore

The next global economic contraction is likely to totally wreck Russia. Expect them to give up atomic weapons in return for food aid.

Tyler Morales
Tyler Morales

Is this some sort of elaborate damage control about Turkey preferring S-400 to F-35,
That was Erdogan partly overplaying his hand and not thinking the US would actually have consequences for him, and partly wanting to punish the air force for their role in the alleged coup.
and Germany ditching F-35 completely in favour of a joint project with France?
A few things:
This doesn't actually counter what he said, they're both NATO countries that cooperate with eachother
The head of the Luftwaffe was forced into retirement for saying that the F-35 was the best choice for the Tornado replacement.

Caleb Fisher
Caleb Fisher

lmaooo

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John Sullivan
John Sullivan

The cope is strong with these ones.

John Hernandez
John Hernandez

You can't actually cope any harder than falling back on nukes because the armed forces are trapped in the past.

Ian Barnes
Ian Barnes

Looking at history and comparing the strategies of Soviet Union and Russia regarding this matter the difference is clearly visible. Russia does to seek to overproduce the entire NATO, it just invests in weapons that can wipe anything NATO can produce in any quantities off the surface of the globe.

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Owen Cook
Owen Cook

N-nukes don't count
They do. Keep coping.

Aiden Lee
Aiden Lee

Arent angled launchers meant to be designed as the ship is doing maneouvres or traveling at high speed?

Mason Edwards
Mason Edwards

If you don't actually have anything to say then don't bother replying. I'm getting so fed up with you double-digiters shitting up this website.

Gabriel Hughes
Gabriel Hughes

I have been hearing the "Russia will fall because it does not keep up with the (((World)))" fantasies since Putin put Khodorkovsky in jail...15 years later Russia accumulates geo-political victory after victory.

Zachary Campbell
Zachary Campbell

With nukes alone the Warsaw pact would have imploded in the fifties for lack of Soviet military support. Having only nukes dooms you to geopolitical isolation.

Levi Cooper
Levi Cooper

What?

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Carter Diaz
Carter Diaz

LGBT, feminist, nigger West has no future so all that Russia has to do is to hold on for a few decades. The West is getting more and more desperate because they know that the clock is running against the West not Russia.

As for Russian military power...it has more or less the same budget as the UK or France and yet it would crush both of them together in a conventional, limited nuclear or all-out nuclear warfare. The "bang for buck" (no pun intended) that Russia achieves with it's resources has no match.

Carson Ortiz
Carson Ortiz

With nukes alone
No one is talking about "nukes alone", except for you, apparently. We're talking about investing in strategic nuclear weapon instead of trying to overproduce a military alliance.

Robert Bailey
Robert Bailey

They were patethically designed with a poor punch power, is not the nuclear power fault

Jason Perry
Jason Perry

Proxy wars exist you triple nigger

Nathaniel Edwards
Nathaniel Edwards

We're talking about investing in strategic nuclear weapon instead of trying to overproduce a military alliance.

Once again this forces a country into geopolitical isolation. Strategic nuclear weapons are only a part a country's armed forces, they cannot be a substitute for failures elsewhere.

Jordan Young
Jordan Young

This is not your safe space. No one gives a shit what you are getting fed up with. Russia is a major arms exporter and claiming that it is being forced into isolation reeks of damage control, especially in the light of recent events. Eat shit.

Adam Baker
Adam Baker

Proxy wars exist
Yeah, last time I heard Syria has freed over 60% of its territory with Russian help and there's nothing anyone can do to stop them.

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Bentley Myers
Bentley Myers

I understand that your fatass is upset that Russia is a failing shithole that hasn't produced a decent weapons system since the USSR days, but again:
If you don't actually have anything to say then don't bother replying

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Caleb Williams
Caleb Williams

I didn't say that it was, I mean that in particular the USN nuclear cruisers were not very effective.

Dominic Fisher
Dominic Fisher

Have some

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Joseph James
Joseph James

Oh boy, look at this poor pathetic faggot having nothing to say and posting a picture of his only remaining friend to move the goalposts. Cry more, lol.

Alexander Reyes
Alexander Reyes

Kek, coping vlads are the best.

Owen Bell
Owen Bell

You posted that picture of yourself, dumbass.

Noah Walker
Noah Walker

this forces a country into geopolitical isolation
Except it does not, as it is evident from all the exports of its arms that Russia enjoys. See, real world simply does not support your desirable perception.

Brayden Hill
Brayden Hill

Jesus Christ you're fucking mental. Take your meds.

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Hudson Bell
Hudson Bell

Still mad over the gay propaganda law? Tough shit Westerner...you made faggots and niggers your Gods and now you will turn into another nigger shithole, you choose your path.

Don't worry, we will be responsible Sole Super Power and try to minimized the worst instincts of our Insectoid sidekick ;)

Robert Cook
Robert Cook

geez there are food distribution programs for poor people in Russia! i was totally pwned...

Oliver Brooks
Oliver Brooks

Russia is a major arms exporter

They are really falling behind in terms of exports. They're losing aviation to the Swedes, Chinese, and Americans. In terms of submarines they are falling behind the Germans, Spanish, and the Chinese. Virtually the only thing they can sell reliably are anti-air systems.

Jose Gray
Jose Gray

Don't post pictures of yourself on the internet where you look like the subhuman that you are if you don't want people to save them ;^)
jowforums.com/thread/41967086/weapons

Logan Price
Logan Price

See, real world simply does not support your desirable perception.

They're losing that market because of their inability to keep up with evolving technology.

Leo Torres
Leo Torres

Have food

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Carson Green
Carson Green

The Admiral Kuznetsov was perfectly usable in this regard.
Apart from the moving part.

Brody Miller
Brody Miller

Drydock sinks
Ftfy

Austin Garcia
Austin Garcia

(((Vice News))) the Jew York Times for hipster faggots and a few boxes saying "UNICEF"...i was pwned again.

Evan Brown
Evan Brown

it lost simulated dogfights to the fucking Rafale of all things several times
Fake news.

Tyler Sanders
Tyler Sanders

They are really falling behind in terms of exports
They're losing that market
Nah, not really.

Owen Miller
Owen Miller

OBSESSED
I think you need to call your therapist.

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Lincoln Morgan
Lincoln Morgan

[[[ ((())) ]]

Asher Brooks
Asher Brooks

Have food

Henry Brown
Henry Brown

So. No.

Tyler Myers
Tyler Myers

They're being cut out of markets they used to dominate, there's no other way to describe their position than faltering. There are cheaper and easier alternatives to Su-35/30 and MiG-29/35 and the fact the Lada-class never materialized means they've got no real place in the sub market for much longer.

Bentley Thomas
Bentley Thomas

Russian arms exports increasing and interest in Russian arms increasing
Russian arms exports are flatering
Stay mad (((western liberal democrat)))

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Dylan Reed
Dylan Reed

Small arms

Literal chump change.

Brandon Allen
Brandon Allen

"The US is warning the Philippines to think carefully about plans to acquire Russian submarines, explaining that doing so could be detrimental to the US-Philippine alliance."

Link: businessinsider.com/us-warns-ally-against-buying-russian-submarines-2018-8

Faltering JEWestern Liberal Democracy (tm) getting more and more desperate....

Owen Rivera
Owen Rivera

Imagine being this deluded.

Christian Gray
Christian Gray

We are looking at [South] Korea and Russia and other countries [as source of the submarines]
Russia is reportedly willing to sell the Philippines Kilo-class diesel-electric submarines and offering soft loans if the Philippines cannot afford the desired vessels.

Good lord did you even read the article?

Kayden Adams
Kayden Adams

we're talking about investing in strategic nuclear weapon instead of trying to overproduce a military alliance.
this is how out of touch russians are

No, user. Falling back on nukes is the alternative option to option #1 - peacefully co-opting your potential rivals so that it never comes to war at all. NATO preemptively defused the EU as a independent power that might rival the US by offering them US support so that they'd never dream of arming and becoming an independent faction.

Russia failed to do this, and now they are forced to resort to wars on the periphery, all because their conventional gear is so shit and their policy is so corrupt that no-one partners (i.e. submits) peacefully.

Eli Evans
Eli Evans

the retarded logic you use to try to sell your "RUSSIA IS DOOMED" delusions. Stay mad and good luck with your slow and painful death by niggerification, faggotification and feminification.

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Jose Morris
Jose Morris

second order effects are "retarded logic"

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the level of the Slavic mind.

Jack Bell
Jack Bell

Russia needs to apply the "blackmailed pedophiles promoted to positions of power and influence" method to find partners in the West because right now it is the blackmailed pedophiles owned by JEWestern Liberal Democracy that run the EU town.

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Julian Perry
Julian Perry

The UK no longer exists; it is now the EU, the world as Hitler wanted it to be

Justin Flores
Justin Flores

themoscowtimes.com/2018/12/10/russia-overtakes-uk-as-worlds-second-largest-arms-producer-report-says-a63761
I'm starting to think I know what particularly small location you are from. There is no need to be upset.

Jaxson Clark
Jaxson Clark

Falling back on nukes
See, the thing is no one is talking about "Falling back on nukes", except for you, apparently.
peacefully co-opting
With NATO
Lol, ok dude, whatever makes you sleep at night.

Kayden Green
Kayden Green

Cool, tell me where I even mentioned the UK as a competitor to Russia in my post. The UK arms industry isn't a threat to the Russia's, its those with industries producing equipment for countries that want leaner militaries.

Landon Collins
Landon Collins

russia-overtakes-uk-as-worlds-second-largest-arms-producer
But Russian arms industry is in decline, I swear
Who could possibly be behind this post?

Benjamin Turner
Benjamin Turner

Who could possibly be behind this post?

Someone with a brain. Russia used to be the one stop shop for budget militaries, but now they offer weapons that are neither cheap or modern. The Swedes, Germans, Chinese, and even the US are selling to people who used to buy only Russian. No one needs a maintenance heavy Sukhoi or MiG when they can just get an order of Grippens, JF-17's, or whatever bloc F-16 is making the rounds. The only people interested in Kilo's are those who already have parts for them, but now most are going to Germany, France/Spain, China, and Korea for submarines. These contracts were essential to bring in money for new developments, now that they're drying up developments will inevitably slow.

Hudson Bailey
Hudson Bailey

russia-overtakes-uk-as-worlds-second-largest-arms-producer
Let me explain why this indicates the decline of their arms industry
Ok lad.

Ian Price
Ian Price

themoscowtimes.com/2019/03/11/russia-remains-second-largest-arms-exporter-despite-sales-drop-think-tank-a64763
Exports have been dropping for five years
The five largest exporters, including France, Germany and China, accounted for three-quarters of all arms exports in 2014-18

Michael Gray
Michael Gray

Arms race is a meme
Posts something that was created in an arms race

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David Wilson
David Wilson

This handsome motherfucker was built to protect CBGs from Soviet bombers

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