What kind of secret advanced technology do you think has been developed in the last while that is kept secret for now?

oh hai we created genetic supersoldiers

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They're still working on the alien spacecrafts that have spawned all technology since the 50s

I don't know but I try not to lose sleep over it. There are plenty of people who have come out of the government saying that there are entire airframes and programs that have been developed, deployed, lived out their service lives and retired that have never been remotely described in the civilian world. I'm certain the Aurora (or at least what the Aurora rumors are playing at) is a real thing. I always think back to how long the B-2 and F-117 were in service before they were revealed in any manner.

There was like a dozen spies passing on the info to the soviet union so not a good example there bro.
"Echelon" was/is the name of the US intelligence effort to tap phones and listen to international calls which began in the 1960's and was well known from the start:

>In 1972, former NSA analyst Perry Fellwock, under pseudonym Winslow Peck, first blew the whistle on ECHELON to Ramparts in 1972,[12] where he gave commentary revealing a global network of listening posts and his experiences working there. Fellwock also included revelations such as the existence of nuclear weapons in Israel in 1972, the widespread involvement of CIA and NSA personnel in drugs and human smuggling, and CIA operatives leading Nationalist Chinese (Taiwan) commandos in burning villages inside PRC borders.[13]

Then you had Edward Snowden spilling the beans on the NSA's spying through the internet only a few years ago.

Something totally nefarious as this is impossible to keep under wraps, whereas a spyplane or something like that is pretty harmless.

>spy
>whistleblower
>pick 1 and only 1
Average Joes everywhere had no idea about it until they were allowed to know.

Hitman robots powered by AI
(non-antropomorphic)

I wonder what kind of stuff they have developed for torture? They turned this guy into a faggot for example.

The "Area Denial" heat ray thingy is surely used for this purpose.

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his secret was he was a faggot all along. this guy isn't even a hero, he's some retarded private who showed up to fort meade and then went wide-eyed upon seeing his first dose of top secret information, so decided to leak it asap.

i can understand snowden but manning? cmon now.

Not saying it was a hero but god knows what they do to people they intend to dispose of anyway without anyone ever knowing?

The tic tac craft thing is about 20 years behind their latest stuff.

Personality wise he's a fucking douchebag but I'm kinda glad he released the stuff out of spite. He should have never made it into the military but I'm thankful he didn't wash out.

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>MARAUDER plasma cannons
>air-launched boost-glide spaceplane possibly under the name "BLACKSTAR", with a mothership closely resembling or based on the XB-70 Valkyrie
>low-observability satellites, but that's basically a known fact with the follow-ons to the KH-11 Kennen series
>a stealth VTOL platform possibly designed alongside the F-117 to act as a low-altitude spotter aircraft, designating targets for Paveways dropped by F-117s operating at higher altitudes
>a nuclear-powered tetrahedral craft tested in winter of 1980 with somewhat unpredictable results, sighted at RAF Woodbridge/RAF Bentwaters on the 26 and 27th of December, then in Texas on the 29th, where it was under escort by a group of Chinooks and possibly suffering a reactor containment failure

I've also been hearing a lot of talk about toroidal plasma engine systems that seems like it could date back to WWII, but that whole side is contaminated by ridiculous bullshit "whistleblowers" talking about secret space fleets and blue avians.

I'm not necessarily saying I think it's right, but I've been thinking about this a lot lately. What if we HAVE completely missed something in physics? Mostly in regard to FTL drive for scifi worldbuilding, but my thought process is that if antigravity or FTL are possible, it's either something so forehead-slappingly stupid that how we missed it will be a marvel, or our entire model is wrong and we need to start over from Newton.

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Same reason you keep making prop planes when you have jet turbines ala WW2. One is already reliable and capable. The other is better in every way but is an unknown due to insufficient testing and experience so you keep both until one completely supplants the other.

Probably some cool stuff but nothing crazy.

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The tic tac has come a long way since the 1970's

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>exhaust and vertical surfaces on the underside
artist does not understand stealth

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Dynamic ether theory is mind bogglingly simple and doesn’t require mathematical hand waving like quantum. It also reconciles gravity, electromagnetism, and the strong and weak nuclear forces.

You don't start over in science, you build and improve. You throw out or legacy the parts that aren't correct or not emtirely correct, shure, but you can't pick an arbitrary point and say that everytjing before is correct but everything past is incorrect.

Fact is that while Newtonian physics are good enough in our every day but when you start to get to extremes your models break down, you need things like relativity and the like to describe the universe more accuratley and that is what science is all about.
The idéa that we are behind in a field of science isn't unfounded but we cannot be shure, that FTL travel and antigrav has to exist is delusion, it is a possibility, but we didn't burn our physics books to invent refridgerators.

It’s not about burning physics. It’s about going back to the turn of the 20th century. Theoretical physics was split between quantum and dynamic ether. Quantum won because it experimented better, practically, and theoretically at the time. There is overlap between the two but the fundamentals are different.

However, the discovery of the Higgs field and the construction of the LIGO interferometer array has many in the physics community re-addrsssing ideas originally put forth by the ether faction in the early 1900s.

While the F117 flew for a decade or so before it was revealed, the B2 was shown publicly only a year or so after it first flew.

Its likely the B-2 reveal was a strategic dickwaving move to put pressure on the soviet union to either come up with their own stealth bomber or some way to defeat it as part of a futuristic arms race like the SDI, forcing them to spend money they didnt have and eventually causing its collapse along with other sources of pressure like the war in afghanistan and agitation in eastern europe.

>What kind of secret advanced technology do you think has been developed in the last while that is kept secret for now

welfare for niggers and spics

This is your reminder that Electric Universe Theory is a poor schizophrenic reboot of Velikovskianism, promoted by schizos and "supported" by arguments that fail Occam's Razor compared to the conventional explanations. Electric Universe schizos literally think the Valles Marineres was carved out by giant lightning bolts from another planet(Jupiter IIRC) that was magically much closer to Mars than it is now, and magically capable of generating planet-hopping lightning bolts many miles in diameter

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Well the original intention of the program was for it to completely replace the B-52 but production was cut when the peace dividend slashed budgets. Had the cold war continued and the original goal me its kind of hard to keep a whole 1/3 of your nuclear forces existence a secret.

Dynamic ether theory is not electric universe bullshit.

What is it? google isn’t turning up many results.

ATHENA laser, next one please.

Is there any info on the MARAUDER project besides the basics outlined on the wiki page for it? I'm really interested in the concept. good post btw

the real thing they developed is that 99% of the super budget going to secret projects is actually going to the pockets of MIC, politicians and lobbysts with no real thing being made, guess you can say the real development here was in the bank accounts in fiscal paradises

That's the thing, it disappeared completely from the open literature much the same as hafnium induced gamma emission. My bet? The testing with Shiva Star probably showed promising results, but much like solid-projectile railguns it ran into power supply issues preventing useful development, so it was shelved at least temporarily. But I hear LockMart has been making some serious investment into fusion tech recently, so that might be less of an issue very soon.

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Much of our stealth tech uses the research from a soviet scientist who though his work on EM wave reflection was useless for the military, so he published it internationally and the USAF translated and Lockheed used it. They probably couldnt get MAURADER to work but don't want to make the mistake the russians did and give them beneficial research.

That would usually fall under the...what's it called, Inventions Secrecy Act? Basically allows the government to appropriate patents and declare them classified, real shady shit.

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I know that a woman who builds small parts for various civilian and military applications came to my school to present to the engineering department and when asked about some of the military contracts she mentioned “plasma weapons” among other less notable things.

MK Ultra is still a thing. they practice mass control through social media and news media and I'm sure they've got highly advanced methods for individual control.

I had a toy of this thing in the 90s. Was it just something drawn up for this ad?

popularmechanics.com/military/research/a25091957/plasma-weapon-history/

i guess its related to directed energy weapons. which is a perfect topic for this thread. its not really a secret that we've had them for a while. maybe the whole 'storm area 51' thing is just so they can play with some stand-up area denial toys when a bunch of idiots actually try it

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As far as I've ever been able to tell, yeah. A couple companies released models looking like it as the "F-19A" in the '80s, and that designation itself is the source of a great deal of debate. I think something similar was in an anime series about ten years back, too? I think Loral just had an artist in love with that design.

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I imagine a few things on the block that we won't see in the public for a while:

1. compact, high density power supply
2. Advanced prosthesis and brain/machine interfaces
3. Advanced AI and drone technology
4. Cyber warfare
5. Stealth technology
6. Alternative fuel sources or ability to use them.

As far as I've ever been able to tell, yeah. A couple model companies released the same or very similar designs in the '80s, using the same F-19A designation as Loral, which itself is a matter of major debate among people in this whole field. Nothing looking remotely like it ever materialized (with or without the capabilities from these ads), I think it was just a design somebody at Loral really liked.

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This was a bar room conversation, so take it as you will. I was on the road for my work, and was having a beer in a local drinking hole near my hotel. I sat next to a workingman kinda guy who was sharp, lucid, and had a great sense of humor. He asked what I did for a living at one point, and I told him that I teach basic science and math to people who want to pass state tests so they can become licenced technicians in a specific infrastructure field. He told me he saw some science that nobody else ever believed. He was hired as a laborer sometime in the 1980's to help clean out a building in an old Ford Motors plant that was leased by Lockheed Missiles and Space. They found a series of 20 concrete block walls with 10 feet of sand between them and a 2" steel or iron backstop, and a series holes were bored through them where the sand was burnt into glass tubes. The holes when through the backstop, too. He said the site was where the Milpitas Mall is now located. I now believe he was describing early testing of Rail guns or plasma cannons.

>people actually think that we've been innovating since the fall of the soviet union
>people unironically think that every contractor has been subsiding on mediocre shit living from grant to grant
>people seriously think that fun shit gets to happen that doesn't get gimped from the start by the mindless retards who use infernalism as a "save my company from bankruptcy" machine
>implying we get to have fun shit anymore
shiggy diggy

quality post

it flys upside down.

>thinks than no new warfare technology has been implemented since 1991.
Shiggy fucking diggy, lmao.

>implying any tech that's been developed hasn't been lateral instead of vertical
shiggy diggy mo'fuggin doo

>>implying any tech that's been developed hasn't been lateral instead of vertical
LMFAO, shiggy fucking diggy fucking doo-doo!!!11!!11!!1!!! Are you a fucking clueless fucking retard without any research skills, or just a fucking dumbass cunt? Go suck cock, you have NO argument.

lol, retard

Wow, no new tech has been invented since when? Do you live in a cave?

>isolating yourself from the world commjnitybof the best engineers and scientists
>expect anything advanced

Snowden was pretty legitimite but went about it the wrong way, he would have a lot more support if he just stuck to leaking information relevant to what made him leak in the first place. Manning was just a complete faggot with no clue. I had a TS/SCI when I was in, classified information in general is so compartmented that only a handful of people are going to see the full picture. There is probably a shitload of weapons/platforms we have no idea exist.

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Not if you think about it. Would they release a technology that would allow a human in their lifetime to travel among the stars as easy as we go to the corner store? What would happen if 80-90% of the worlds population left Earth for greener pastures off world(s)? There goes your entire tax base man up in smoke. Due to treaties already agreed to space is essentially international waters and no planet or moon can be declared the property of any country. Meaning any newly settled worlds would be sovereign entities.

it's designed to fly super low anyways

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Looks like the way Tom Clancy describes the "Pancake" Stealth fighters in Red Storm Rising.

99.99% of people can’t understand this math stuff including myself so I can’t see it being too hard to keep it under wraps

If it's out there, it's American.

>your next line is: "it's all jews/diversitybudget/embezzlement!"

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Its nothing too spoppy.
>aerial rearmnament
>two[!] Lift fans on a fighter jet that will allow hovering
>robotic manufacturing and assembly

What the fuck is Dynamic Ether theory?

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I'm not convinced that something similar to the B-2 LAP wasn't built, it'd be a perfect thing to complement the F-117 and B-2 if it was scaled down somewhat (and even better for working with non-stealth bomber/strike aircraft). And we all know about the North Sea sighting in '89.

Here's what I'm thinking: one thing that's noticeably missing both from stealth platforms and US aviation in general lately is SEAD/Wild Weasel flights. Which makes sense at first, don't need to kill radars that can't see you, but the big swinging dick of Strategic Air Command and its successors was and is B-52s and B-1s on the basis of pure numbers. What would be a good way to stretch their survivability? Pair them with a stealthy low-flying SEAD platform to clear the way. Pop off a few Quail or wait for the early-warning arrays to start picking up the incoming bomber group(s), then as soon as the SAM radars start looking for targets, the Sneaky Weasel(s) flying ahead blast them off the map with Shrikes/SRAMs/whatever other air-to-surface weapon you like.

That would be because it's probably what he had in mind, those were also designated the F-19A and the idea was very much in vogue at the time.

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The main issue before it got classified wasn't power, it was field stability which isn't something you can just engineer away. Basically rotating toroids are the most stable moving shape, so much so that magnetic fields shaped like that will stick around for a short time, about one microsecond. The fastest they got the bolt to go was 3000km/s and thought they could get it going 10 by 2000, so even at their best it only had a range of 10 meters. The detonation itself had the explosive force of 5 pounds of TNT youtube.com/watch?v=oReMqVSYGoY.
However recent research has produced theoretical toroid shapes that could last into the milliseconds a projectile lasting a millisecond going 10,000km/s would have a range of 10km.

So yeah it's viable, but has probably been sitting forgotten in a filing cabinet since the mid 90's after they couldn't get it working then.

Well, the new HARM, that Im calling the HARM-ER kinds deflates this theory. Its slated to start tests in the early 20s, and is going to make F-35s 5th Gen Wild Weasels.

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t. DARPA

Good lord. Hearing about the already fucking insane battlefield management and SEAD capabilities or the F-35, something like this is going to be another step in the dominance of this fucking plane.

theaviationist.com/2019/04/02/heres-what-three-italian-f-35-instructor-pilots-with-62nd-fs-have-to-say-about-their-first-red-flag-with-the-lightning-ii/

>“The results we have achieved in these two weeks are almost unbelievable: the statistics do not need comments”.

>The F-35 was the most effective asset in neutralizing SAM systems and absolutely essential in the timely sharing of all the specific information needed for the success of the mission.

>“We knew we had an operational advantage, due to the 5th generation technology, but we didn’t expect such a high “kill” ratio: in the 16 OCA missions (Offensive Counter Air) we flew, we neutralized more than 100 SAM systems and never lost a plane,” commented Maj. Emanuele A.

Who was the "red" force? Niggeristan with refurbished Vietnam-era air defenses?

With the capabilities of the F-35, they might as well be. ))))))

>MARAUDER
Goddamn, I want it so bad. So many tank threads with people bitching about who has the best armor vs the best LRPs; soon enough it won't even matter when we can just melt any fucking tank on the battlefield with fucking hybrid plasma cannon railguns.

I bet we have decent anti ICBM defenses, it would have remained a priority even after 1991 and we have seen Israel test out iron dome.

When will you "we have magical secret tech" types understand that machines have to be more or less at the same level as fundamental science?

There is no secret tech that has quasi-magical characteristics you retards! Even things like the SR71 were fully aligned with the level of fundamental science of the period.

There's two problems with ballistic missile defence: it's expensive as hell and to work at all effectively it has to be nuclear-based. Safeguard/Sentinel had the right of it, especially with Sprint (in 1972 the USAF fielded a ground-launched missile that pulled 100G acceleration, going from zero to Mach 5 in ten seconds, so fast that it glowed white from the compression heating) to sweep up stray RVs while the 5-megaton LIM-49 Spartan would slap entire RV constellations out of the sky in transit.

Plus, the sites for it look fucking creepy as fuck in that Cold War brutalist way. And yes, if you played Fallout 4, you do recognize it from the Sentinel Site out in the Glowing Sea.

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Except there is the invention secrecy act and there is every reason to believe that if the US had an aircraft that could strike Russian/Chinese nuclear silos/launchers/airbases/submarine pens without warning it would be kept secret.

If it wasn't such a pain in the dick and time for me to go, I'd make an entire thread for this kind of shit.

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that looks eerie as shit

>to work at all effectively it has to be nuclear-based
If I understand the mechanics correctly, the actually killing factor of nuclear-based ABMs is the EM radiation, not the actual blast, as the latter is significantly less effective at the high intercept altitude. I mean, for the time, setting off a fuckhuge nuke was a pretty good way to create the desired EMP effect for frying MIRVs and individual warheads, but I feel like that at this point there are porbably less explode-y ways to do that. Then again, I also have to imagine more modern warheads are better hardened against such things; I'd have to imagine that for the weight saved going from a larger megaton-class warhead to a smaller kiloton class weapon, you could slap on quite a bit of protective materiel.
In any case, I feel like ABM tech has sorta plateaued until we can really nail down hypersonics and DEWs; It definitely seems that the era of what were eventually jacked-up nuclear SAMs is pretty much over, at least in terms of future American projects.

It is video game thinking. It is in everyone's interest to quickly unveil new creations for it acts as a passive deterrent towards foreign aggression, and puts economical, logistical and intellectual strain on the 'enemy' developing countering/equalization mechanisms. Muh sebret black triangles are for room temperature IQ brainlets that cannot understand game theory or the fact that the real world is nothing like video games or fiction writing.

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You do realize that there's a middle ground between keeping a program totally black and showing your hand completely, right? The United States admitted to having a stealth aircraft long before officially unveiling the F-117, effectively putting the pressure on that you mentioned without actually compromising any information on the project itself. In that vein, there's quite a few projects that we know have a basis in reality without knowing any actual details about (plasma weapons, hypersonic spy planes, all sorts of different stealth bullshit, etc.)
Besides, the best deterrent is not to show your enemy what you have, but to to keep them in the dark about whether or not you actually have anything at all. The more transparent you are about your systems, the easier they are to develop counters for. You give them enough information to make them aware that some weapon could be used at some time by someone, and let them fill in the blanks on their own; odds are the scenario they come up with is going to be way scarier for them than the actual weapon, effectively filling the role of the deterrent without revealing much of anything at all.

>tfw 20s doesn't mean 1920s anymore
fuck go back

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As previously stated, the SR-72 exists and the Scram-Jets are being tested to scale. Lockheed Skunk Works has confirmed as much.

I do, however, think they're understating the capability and I'm inclined to believe that the 72 is being developed as a replacement for the B-2 as well as the U-2. They've mentioned that they want to arm the jet, but I've been wondering if it isn't more specifically intended as a hypersonic, stealth delivery system for tactical warheads. Rods from god out of an airplane kind of shit.

Google the SRAM that was SACs sead solution.

The B-21 raider is already in development to replace the B-1 and B-2

Being a turd worlder must hurt.

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Advanced robotics
Lightweight batteries
Lightweight armor
Mass producable exo skeletons
Kill drones
Energy weapons
Active camouflage
Hovercars
FTL travel
Teleportation

At the turn of the 19th/20th century the theoretical physics community was split between two factions. The quantum faction and the luminiferous ether faction. The latter theory stating that there was a medium through which electromagnetism propagates. Dynamic ether theory takes lessons learned from quantum and revisits luminiferous ether theory. Mainly because quantum and subsequently string and M theory and so on require more and more contrived mathematics. The discovery of the Higgs field a few years ago was the catalyst. The universal field through which electromagnetism propagates... sounds familiar?

In the beginning there was the void... but it was not nothing...

Basically it boils down to this. The Higgs field (space) seems to be dynamic. It is compressible, elastic, and frictionless. The presence of substantial energy in a unit of the Higgs field causes it to compress. Enough energy in a small enough volume causes it to reach the limit in which it can compress in 3 dimensions (Planck length). Forcing it past this threshold causes it to be dynamic in a direction perpendicular to the 3rd. The 4th (time as we perceive it). This deflection in that direction causes a 3 dimensional vortex or whirl pool in the shape a cardioid. This is why subatomic particles will sometimes manifest into existence in particle accelerators. The Higgs field flows and stretches towards and into this vortex and then back in time. This is why particles experience time but light/energy does not. If you were a photon, travel would seem instantaneous to you. The “flow” and “stretch” of the Higgs field towards massive clusters of these particles (standing vortices) creates the effect of gravity. It’s not that something is pulling you down when you jump. It would be like swimming in a slow moving river. You push off of a rock and the river slowly brings you back to the rock.

Anyway, that seems to be the current outlook.

Yeah too bad it’s bullshit

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What

It's hardly a stretch to say a Mach 4 + aircraft with stealthy features is beyond the 'fundamental' science of the 1980's. The real question is what kind of retarded fuck would spend billions developing it only to announce its existence? So that it can be countered or scoped out and copied?

Comparing the B-2 and a hypothetical 'Aurora' (don't know what it's actually called so that will do) is absolutely retarded when they are completely different things. Here are the facts:

1. SR-71 was retired and never officially replaced despite Spy Sat's not being able to cover this intelligence gap since they are orbiting the earth in a set pattern and can be avoided by people who have something to hide, whereas the SR-71 could look at whatever with maybe 24 hours notice and nobody would know.

2. The crash at RAF Boscombe down in 1994 was never explained at all, whatever aircraft crashed there was covered in sheets, the SAS were dispatched to guard the perimeter and CIA/US government aircraft, aircraft based at area 51, and a C-5 was dispatched also. (identities of those aircraft confirmed by tail numbers).

So when you put it all together, clearly they have/had some pretty mind blowing stuff under their hat and since it has never been revealed in all these years that means it's still better than anything anyone else has thought up.

It's quite possible that it was retired in the mid 1990's though since it would have been an astronomical drain on the budget and they now have stealth drones in the pipeline, yet still a secret for no doubt good reasons.

Hahahahahaha

considering that nukes might not exist, I think weapons based on tesla's technology exist

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If you think Jow Forums isnt scrapped regularly for OSINT your a fool

>nukes might not exist
Please, do go on.

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