Why is it that we don’t see trench warfare anymore like in ww1?
Why is it that we don’t see trench warfare anymore like in ww1?
Jacob Edwards
Chase Davis
Trenches are being used extensively in Ukraine
Nathaniel Butler
Smart munitions. Modern aircraft. Satellites.
Not to say digging into the ground is a bad defensive strategy. It’s still excellent. But it’s more circumstantially useful and less fundamentally useful.
Easton Gray
remember that tanks weren't a thing yet, but machine guns were.
Ethan Foster
Technology, Ukraine and the Iraq-Iran war is the closest thing we’ll see to WW1 era trench warfare anytime soon.
Matthew Edwards
>tanks designed to cross trenches, crush barbed wire, suppress defenders, destory fortifications to allow infantry to cross
>combined arms between aircraft, artillery, and infantry developed to suppress defenders while attacking to improve attackers odds
>mechanized infantry can quickly keep pace for flanking or exploiting breaks, making the frontline dynamic rather than static
trenches are still extremely useful, and there are many cases where the only way is through rather than around
but its rare for one side to simply sit on their ass and throw troops at a defensive position wasting their men pointlessly
the battle of kursk invovled heavy and massive earthenworks and defensive trench networks, but they functioned in tandem with more mobile forces creating battles of maneuver and attempted break throughs rather than an endless stalemate
not that it wasnt a meatgrinder, it was every bit as frantic and close as WW1, but it involved more movement and positioning
Elijah Evans
Industrial backed logistics to support mobile mechanized forces designed to breach and bypass defenses to strike at the enemies strategic weak points. That being said. You can’t stay on the offense forever. Therefore, when on the defense, creating strong points via trench lines is a very effective means to secure land and to keep your forces alive short of earth penetrating weapons and nuclear weapons.
Isaiah Cook
>tanks weren't a thing yet
ww1 had tanks and if properly made they could definitely drive over trenches
Zachary Reed
Depends on the level of technology involved. We saw and see plenty of trench warfare in Ukraine because both sides are reluctant to put technology on the terrain so as to not escalate.
Jace Lewis
Later in the war and prone to breaking down
Ethan Brooks
Tanks don't always trump trenches. In the Iran-Iraq War they were used extensively buy couldn't break the stalemate. Modern tanks in particular have lots of trouble breaking through barbed wire due to their track design, necessitating support by dedicated engineering vehicles.
Aircraft are a good counter for trenches if they can get into position, but unless you're the US that isn't always feasible.
Jayden Davis
Trenches have been used in pretty much every major conflict since the 1850s, just not nearly as extensively as in WW1. Air support and modern rocket/grenade launchers has made them useless outside of defending a specific point. That's not to say trench warfare hasn't occurred due to a lack of airplanes or modern explosives. Just look at the Iran-Iraq war or Ukraine.
Jack Lopez
Ding Ding
Jackson Stewart
The Ethiopian and Eritrean war in -98.
>The widespread use of trenches has resulted in comparisons of the conflict to the trench warfare of World War I.[54] According to some reports, trench warfare led to the loss of "thousands of young lives in human-wave assaults on Eritrea's positions
Aiden Ward
My god....they’ve advanced to the industrial revolution.
>AY YO TRAVONE, LINK ME UP A COUPLE OF DEM BELTS. IMMA FRONTAL ENFILADE THESE NIGGAS
Wyatt Thomas
I work with some people that lived through that. One of them was in the Ethiopian military. He won't talk about it. But he did "Some tings dat not goot to tok 'bout."
The dude's super friendly, always smiling, but he has that...thousand yard stare. We're pretty sure he has some form of PTSD because he got into some shit at work and started screaming in Ethiopian on the radio. Then proceeded to beat an inmate within an inch of their life...with aformentioned radio. (We work in a prison, if that wasn't obvious.)
He also did some crazy African Boogaloo Operator Tactics on our shooting course. They handed him an AR and he shot EVERY TARGET, all ten, dropped the AR, then ran forward with a 357 and shot six targets.
They told him "That was cool but...you failed. Shoot YOUR targets."
Dylan Perry
Ian Green
not when they built the huge trenches, that was my point.
it was more of a generalization because the OP is too retarded to pick up a History book.
Wyatt Harris
Sebastian Martinez
They are pretty common and get used in most wars if either group stops moving for more than a couple of days.
Its just they arent that much of a big deal anymore.
Michael Wilson
Adrian Phillips
Not to mention the Iran Iraq war
Angel Scott
Because it’s fucking stupid
Austin Cox
They are still used. See Ukraine and Syria.
Austin Kelly
The same reason they dont just line up and shoot each other after marching into a field with horns and drums. It's retarded. Unless you're defending an area, each side building trenches effectively stalemates the war until supplies run out.