Hypothetically, if war between civilian forces broke out in Portland Oregon how does Jow Forums think it would play out?

Hypothetically, if war between civilian forces broke out in Portland Oregon how does Jow Forums think it would play out?

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National Guard frags a bunch of civvies

>if war between civilian forces broke out in Portland Oregon
Is there something going on there that I haven't heard about?

Yes but then if the national guard were to it may cause more support for the groups they frag. Potentially starting civil war 2.0

It's easily one of the most left wing cities
Lot of Antifa and commie shit
Mayor is also the police commissioner and supposedly just looks the other way

The police arrest everyone and they go to prison.

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I don't see that as being the case. Most people in that position would follow orders. Believe it or not the military is quite loyal

Escalating political violence between antifa and right wing groups. Joe Biggs is planning a rally to "end antifa". Claiming to have over 1000 people coming with him

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What happens if somehow the national guard are so incompetent, they lose?

Not saying that they wouldn't fallow orders, but if the military were to open fire and kill civilians on a large scale it would cause extreme anti government sentiment

Well that just wouldn't happen but for the sake of the argument lets say it does. Then either more Guardsmen or they call in actual Army

Portland here.

This shit is so overblown it's ridiculous. The only time Antifa ever show up is when Patriot Prayer comes over from Vancouver to hold a rally, and even there's more just general, unaffiliated counter-protesters fighting them then actual "Antifa". Portland is just a super white city filled with rich yuppies. It's not on the verge of anarchy or any such nonsense.

>Portland PD
>being able to get anything under control

They’re seriously undermanned and the retarded city politics keeps driving away all the talent, on top of that they’ve completely alienated all the surrounding PDS (Clackamas, Gresham, Beaverton, the Sheriffs) with their underhanded and backstabbing habits. So much that the last time there was an ANTIFA riot (remember? Where that frat boy got rekt with a crowbar?) and the Portland PD begged the other PDs for back up and they all leaned in, licked their lips and said “No”. There are a lot of underlying issues plaguing the Portland PD and the city politics in general that the city and state government want to keep under wraps, ask any PDX native or Oregonian who isn’t completely blue pulled

They can't. Literally, it's not possible to call in the military for riot suppression in the United States. In the event a state national guard failed, federal police would assist, US Marshals, FBI, ect. The National Guard would also retreat, regroup and call up more reservist.

That said: You are right, there is no a point when idiots rioting stand off armed soldiers. The problem when the nasty girls get called up isn't 'how do they win' it's 'how to do this while killing as few of idiots as possible'.

>>the national guard are so incompetent, they lose.

Meh. National Guard are just state-recognized militia fudds. Their quality control has really taken a hit nationwide since the end of Nam'.
Realistically, the police will probably do them in long before the guard needs to be involved, and if SWAT can't do it there isn't a snowball's chance in hell the Nat. Guard would be any help.

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Op here. I am a Vancouver native and have spent a lot of time in Portland. I agree with what you're saying but it only takes a small percentage of extremists to kick something off, to bring those yuppies out of their comfort zone and lose their shit

Yet ironically also a haven for right wing police brutality against blacks and the homeless. The whole city should be nuked from orbit.

I realize you need this to be true, but that's just pathetic. I'm from Seattle son, what you call a 'riot' we call 'a really calm and easy first of May'. There is no crime problem and the police are doing fine.

Calm down. We've had literal radical groups kill cops and nothing happens. People do not give a shit about these idiots 'kicking things off' and the businesses are back open the next day once they sweep up the glass and get new inventory in.

Eh I wasn’t there and from what I heard it was just a bunch of autists trying to out do each other in a designated autism zone. However the Portland PD does have a manpower problem and according to records in the past couple years car break ins (which isn’t a felony or even something you go to prison for atm) and drug trafficking is a real problem in PDX and Gresham Area.

>continuously and ever escalating violence leaking into other cities is fine
>because the violence in my commie ass city is comparatively worse

You’re a faggot who has gotten acclimatized to radical left wing violence which belongs to a bourgeoisie that has entrenched in modern government and legitimized it. This shit is happening in southern cities now too. If you objectively take a look at 5 years ago we are worse off in terms of violence and the faggot ass feds would rather ignore it all because most middle management and above in the FBI are now communist themselves.

The literally called in the Marines for the la riots you fuck

>Hypothetically, if war between civilian forces broke out in Portland Oregon how does Jow Forums think it would play out?

retarded kgb men backslapping eachother in Moscow

>Literally, it's not possible to call in the military for riot suppression in the United States.
Posse Comitatus has been eviscerated. What you are saying just isn't true any more. Waco, Katrina, LA Riots, all had active-component military involved.

>car break ins (which isn’t a felony or even something you go to prison for atm)
what the fuck

lefties spend a lot of blood to kick out the three right wing holdouts in the city and then declare themselves a commie zone, which then gets slowly strangled and then exterminated by the rest of the country

not entirely true. theyve come out in support of left wing groups and help do shit like shut down intersections and attack passing cars. i agree its a bit overblown but its getting worse

And they'd all get put down. The storming of area 51 is manufactured for this exact purpose. Itll be a small scale demonstration of the fact that not only is the government capable of mowing down thousands of civilians, it will do so without a second thought.

ANTIFA is itching to start a war.
and feds are doing jack shit and are not stopping them... and in many cases, they're commies themselves and support this shit.

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>seal off highways and public transit
>city plummits into anarchy
>those that aren't killed by rioting starve to death or die of disease

People would just leave the city. It's not like Portland's on an island.

Set up roadblocks everywhere Raccoon City style.

If war does break out there, please fucking stay there. You're not welcome in central oregon. We don't need anymore soiboi hipster yuppies shitting up our laws.

Or set up a rifleman/flamethrower-operator wall with zero gaps White Plague style.

You've obviously never served in the National Guard.

Not the person you're replying to, but I thought they only had to call in the National Guard?

Columbia county closes Hwy 30, they're blocked off from the west. Not that it matters much, but we hate those faggot.
> all of Columbia County.

It would be surprisingly easy with Portland. Hwy 30, 205 Bridge, i5 bridge, Hwy 26 on both sides. It could be done, if it wasn't for SE Portland's grid being attached to Clackamas and shit.

you mean moskva, fucking baka

Absolute mongoloid

I don't think that it's the feds genuinely support what antifa stands for, but rather they realize if they go unchecked it will cause the right to start retaliating with force. And once that happens people who are not prepared for a situation like this (almost everyone in major cities) will be screaming for a police state.

buddy, both the Obongo-era director of the CIA and the director of the FBI are self-admitted communists. "Deep State" are mostly leftists/communists.

they've been infiltrating all positions of power for decades.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_long_march_through_the_institutions

Breaking the window on a car and stealing a radio or bag is a misdemeanor because the value of the property damaged is low and none is endangered.

No, you are a fucking pussy that can't handle the heat of a city objectively less dangerous and violent then fucking Mayberry. If Andy Griffith can handle a higher violent crime rate then Portland with a special needs deputy and a .38 I think you can survive, princess.

Kill the Hipsters

Read The Brigade.

fuck off back to Jow Forums

>wikipedia is far-right! muh trumb cock sucking biggot!

god damn commie piece of shit.

Yes man, all those sissy bitches that got beat up in 10:1 fights with Antifa faggots need to stop overblowing it. Political violence is normal in the US now, get over it. What's the phrase again? "Part and parcel?"

>country has over 400 million firearms in civilian hands
>"let's just shoot and mow all the civilians down! They can't do shit!"

There are shittier countries with a fraction of the guns that have revolted against their government for much less.

You're making it sound like it's an every day occurrence. It's not. It happens twice a year when Patriot Prayer comes to Portland to hold a rally which they do specifically to incite violence. The other 263 days of the year Portland is a quiet city full of yuppies and hipsters and homeless people.

Nyet the nasty girls got cucked

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>what is the posse comitatus act

Several of my buds are going to that. Might go just to see what happens. There's going to be a lot of prior military personnel going as far as I can tell so I highly doubt Antifa will show.

Depends on who they're suppressing. If it's antifa or occupy then there'd be widespread support. If it's a legal protest that the police escalated for cunt brown then that would be more plausible. Wouldn't be the first time the U.S. needed the guard to quell feral animals.

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>Andy Griffith
Clockwork

Again see And other examples

Some of this is right, but portland is heavily in favor of Antifa and Occupy. The mayor is also a huge cuck, but nothing compares to the shit Kate Brown does to this state. You used to actually be able to go to Portland and enjoy the public attractions, even after dark. Now it's homeless camps on every corner, between every light pole, and under every overhand. Stay out after dark at your own risk, and you'd better have a CHL because if some drugged up homeless fuck doesn't try to mug you a gangbanger will.

Oh and expect your "peers" to by default assume you're guilty if you do use a gun in self defense.

Kate Brown will personally see to it, that this doesn't happen like she's been doing for years.

>It's okay to beat faggots and boomers as long as you claim they're "inciting violence"
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We are excited to offer you an executive position here at Google!

>be city in the middle of suburban sprawl
>disrupt commerce for 1 week
>everyone is out of food and doesn't have the garden space to keep going
>very little in the ways of preppers in the metro area
>implying if half the city tries to flee to the countryside that every freeway and highway wont be gridlocked for miles
>implying agents of chaos wouldn't take out substations and block roads with trains

Didn't say it was "ok" at all did I you illiterate, reactionary fuck. Take your histrionics back to Jow Forums.

I wouldn't go to Old Town or the industrial areas by the waterfront after dark but otherwise Portland is pretty safe. Gets dicey again out past 82nd but the only reason you'd be out there is to do shady shit anyway.

>disrupt commerce for 1 week

Acts of god that literally rip huge parts of a city apart can't keep commerce shut down for a week in America, a few retards trying to block roads would be cleared before the morning rush hour if they weren't shut down in the planning stage by police infiltration as they tried to recruit people to blow up infrastructure.
Good point. Most crime in Portland is heroin addicts fucking with each other or dealers. Unless you seek them out nobody is going to bother you.

I don't have much respect for the NG but they've got some disproportionately talented snipers

The streets would run white with edamame milk.

I live in Portland this is a conversion I had with my landlord. It's being overrun with druggie criminals. Carry a 9mm or 380 with cheap FMJ and wipe your prints off the brass, fire and run if you have to defend yourself. They won't even send cops if only one person calls so the bystander effect might give you enough time to get away.

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If shit happens in PDX the winning move would be a counter strike at the State Capitol, decapitate the Commies

>Stazi
>Gestapo
>KGB
>Ministry of State Security
>Bolivarian Intelligence Service
>Implying police brutality is exclusively a right wing thing
ishiggydiggitty

Overblown or not the fact that it is that way is a problem.

Too many variables. Do the cops say fuck it and go home? How long until the Mayor calls for outside help? Do the staties ride in? What's the objective for the opposition forces?

You need a more descriptive scenario.

Yeah, blowing up a building an hour away in another city will totally be effective.

It wouldn’t, but keep playing pretend user. I live in Portland, it’s a boring white town with low crime and high gentrification. The thing I fear most is a big earthquake collapsing most bridges and older buildings, not some dipshit klanners from Vantuckey coming to get outnumbered by antifa and cry how next time it’ll work out and they won’t get scared off by 80lb children in black jammies with spray paint.

Duh....slurp, slurp, slurp....

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Nah, guard used to be untrained fudds until 9/11 when they started deploying to the sandbox at equal or in some cases greater rates than active duty units. Say what you will about whether that's what they're supposed to be for, but it has certainly made the guard competent again compared to the 80s/90s.

>Mayor is also the police commissioner
How the fuck is this allowed?

This is true.

A good percentage are also under the category of previously enlisted.

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Yea I fled Beaverton/Aloha a few year ago. Have to drill in Portland still and our base gets holes cut into the fence regularly by junkies trying to steal shit. Diesel mainly. What's been very sad is watching the streets fill with more and more homeless druggies over the last decade or so.

Hell we're not even free of them in Wilsonville. The PlaidPantry down the street from me got robbed just a month or two ago, and the hobby town got their till raided not long before that.

>It's harder to be corrupt when there's checks and balances.
t. Kate Brown

I live over by the soccer stadium off west burnside I have to dodge human poop and heroin needles just walking my dog

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Area 51 raid is just a distraction from Epstein’s pedo island adventures with the worlds elite

Lefties don't fight, they run the moment they realize the opposition isn't gonna knuckle under.

Dilate, you discord tranny whore

No. Normal people think political extremism is for retarded people and wont feel bad when you get shot by the national guard.

Oh a useless centrist

Found the discord tranny

>Portland hurts itself in confusion
america wins

Tranny retard
>t. guy who lives past 82nd and division

Libertarian. Stay off my lawn.

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Driving through that clusterfuck of sudo 1 way roads is the primary reason I quit driving for AAA. Did end up picking up a schizo near the rose bowl who after ten minutes said my friend amd I were cops, and this was an elaborate scheme to arrest him under the guise of a service call. He had us drop his car off at a random fire station because he didn't want us to arrest him in front of his house lol.

Gotta love this shithole.

I love Oregon, I grew up here and it's my home. Unfortunately Californians and commies have done a number on it. I think I'm gonna stay and fight though. I had a vasectomy so I wouldn't have to worry about leaving a child without a father. I'm right with my God. Soon we'll fix this mess.

If the NG machine gunned a rally of commies I'd just see them as fulfilling their oaths

take a hike, Jow Forums

>Posse Comitatus has been eviscerated
Posse Commitatus only requires Congressional approval for any domestic law enforcement operations lasting more than 90 days.

>I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC

Apparently protecting American freedoms and values from those who would rather tear it down to replace with a pervasive and oppressive welfare state is Jow Forums

Initially it would be very much a left victory especially given the cucked Portland PD however once antifa gets blood on their hands they'll get cocky and go overboard doing the usual fucked up shit commie apes do when they go mad with power pissing a lot of people off across the country who already hate their guts. Soon you'll have right leaning individuals with nothing to lose going on safari in Portland until the National Guard finally gets called in.
Of course considering how cucked OR is bringing in the Guard might only escalate things until it eventually kicks off the boogaloo

When the time comes give'em hell user. And when you find yourself marching home through heaven's gates I'll hope to see you there.

Must be tough being that poor.