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>what camping filter uses revers osmosis?
They are easy to identify because they have a pump built in. Katadyn is a well known brand.

>Filter
Removes debris, doesn't remove chemicals or bacteria.

>boiling
kills bacteria, doesn't remove chemicals

>Reverse osmosis filter
removes everything

Gardening is great, that's a great skill to learn even having nothing to do with SHTF.
I like herbs too because I enjoy cooking, but they are a luxury for SHTF. Worry about more important things first.

oh, and to add: if you are in a situation where you think you might need to convert salt water into fresh water you can buy devices called "watermakers". These are normally installed on boats, but there's no reason why they have to be limited to that. They're a mini desalinization plant. If you live in a costal area that may be something to consider. Of course building a still is always an option too (and would be cheaper), but if you have the dough then a watermaker would be slick.

Another thing to consider for water is containers. Get some big, heavy-duty plastic bags. They take little room to store. Then, as SHTF becomes iminent you can fill them up. They can also be used to store rainwater or water you purified from your still.

Rainwater can contain bacteria but you can solve that problem by boiling it or by adding tablets that kill bacteria, or by adding a little bit of iodine. You can even "pastuerize" it by filling a clear PET bottle with it and leaving it in the hot sun for a while. Google "PET bottle water sanitizing" and you should get plenty of info; there are groups promoting this to be used in the 3rd world for improving sanitation.

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>tfw there will never be a collab between steve1989, peterdraws, reviewbrah and greg from lofty pursuits

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Listen user.

Not wasting my time reading what these people had to say before me but you need to make some MRE's for short distance excursions away from your home. This picture is the one I created. Then you need two water purifiers. One small one for your excursions and being mobile and another larger one for at home. Then you need to load the fuck up on 5 gallon buckets full of Rice, Beans, Wheat Berries, Honey, and you need to get a grain mill. After that procure all the fuel you will need to cook for atleast a year. Then you are set.

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for emergency water storage the recommendation is to use thick garbage bags, double bagged placed in a cardboard box then tied off. makes them much more sturdy and manageable. getting a bathtub bladder or just filling it straight is another option if you have some warning, buy it's hard to beat having some full 5-7 gallon cans if you lose water for an extended period.

And fyi my rations are a 24 hour ration the same size and weight of an actual MRE. Add water to oatmeal before you step off for the day, eat the bars for lunch on the move and for dinner you can fry up the bacon and heat water for the potatoes but all can be consumed cold if need be.

>tfw you could suggest it and see what happens
I mean they could like send each other packages that they know and review it.
Or maybe they make a fastfood MRE for ReviewBrah to try?

>M&Ms
What's the candy for?
Not shitting on you or anything but I personally don't see use in Candy but Maybe im wrong?

>Sealed rice
>Cans of beans and other veggies
>Spam
>Instant coffee/ other drink mixes
>Crackers
Boom you have most of your food groups covered for a fraction of the price. Also either use clean gas cans for water, or just learn how to efficiently purify water.
And for workout? Hike, hike, and hike some more. Your legs are your greatest asset so make them as good as possible. Maybe do some lifting or just hike with more weight on you.

Morale mostly, to keep your chin up in a bad situation

What user said but also yet another good item to eat on the go. You want high carb high energy items. I tested these rations on a 4 day hike where I covered 72 miles with about 40lbs of gear

Fresh water can be a pain in the ass cause most of it looks like this here

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Damn I guess I'll take your word for it then lol
Is M&Ms type candy best like chocolate and nuts or would this stuff do too

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How'd they work out? We're they significantly better than a MRE?

Netherlands?

Comfy

I would not suggest gummies user. In high heat they will melt into a patty. Learned that in Afghanistan. They also are pretty large item for the amount of calories they posses.

I lived on MRE's for 7 months while in Afghanistan except for a few times when we bought goats and chickens from the locals so I have alot of experience with them.

My only complaint with my ration was that it did constipate you a little more than MRE's because my food was chosen specifically to be as calorie dense as possible. There is not much "roughage" in my MRE's

Tell me why French mre’s are great.

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Yep. Trash cans work too. That's what I do for hurricane prep: I put brand new extra-heavy-duty trash bags in my trash cans, then fill 'em up while I still have clean tap water.

>>candy
Morale, quick energy boost

Makes sense, guess that can be offset by either packing canned veggies or just OSPing some greenery

They do make fiber tablets and other "bulk-forming laxatives" which I have considered adding to my MRE. I have started including a multivitamin in my accesory packet and may begin to add a laxative as well.

You just MUST make sure that you are getting enough water if you include fiber tablets otherwise you risk getting an impacted bowel.

Do not get canned anything. Cans are ridiculously heavy for what they offer.

Good to know, I've never gone on long innawoods excursions for weight to be much of an issue

I would set a goal of having atleast a months worth of an "MRE" style ration for hiking or being on the move. The rest of your food storage should be rice, beans, wheat etc etc. Look to the LDS Churches for some guidance on that side of things. Weight and size is not a concern for storage. Something that gets overlooked a great deal is spices. Make sure you stock up on a TON of Salt, Pepper, Chili Powder, Paprika etc what ever you use. Get a ton of vegetable oil as well. You can make candles with cotton twine and vegetable oil if need be.

Probably repeating what other saying, but anyway:

- store everything you have by year of expiration. Once that exceeds 3 years, eat it and replace it.
- Canned food lasts a decade. Dry goods like rice, pasta, sugar and salt will also last a very long time - if stored dry, dark and unopened. Stuff in bags like soup mixes or wrapped stuff like chocolate bars should be used within one year after expiration date - the contents deteroriate even without air coming in.
- Vitamin pills and protein additives are good value for the money, and also by volume. This stuff also should not be kept more than 3 years after end date.
- candy and other such crap is high on carbs and cheap too, but you could use that money and space on better things. Like honey, which literally has no expiration date but lots of health benefits. Also, most candy does not store well.
- Throw in some spices. You risk eating the same meals over multiple days.

Don't forget to plan on how you will cook stuff like rice. Do you have a camping stove? A pot for it? How about fuel?

use the kind of candy you like. skittles and hard candy have pretty long shelf lives, chocolate and nut based candies don't hold up too well over time.

as long as there isn't any chemical pollution that looks pretty nice, i'd rig up a sandbag pre-filter then filter it with a sawyer filter or just boil it.

Yes the Netherlands

it is comfy indeed as long as there arent any roaches around

Thanks.

I like chocolate though plus if im not mistaken you can practically live off it without dying

It tends to be used as drainage for fields which means a lot of cow shit, which means microbes.
I wouldnt just drink out of it but I think it's not all bad if you distill it or some shit.

Yeah, that water can be pretty polluted with nitrates and other things related to cow dung. Also if you're in the south (altough picture looks like Groningen/Drenthe etc to me) you might need to be wary of dumped drug waste :(

Yeah that's gonna be hell.
I'm seriously considering making a pond in my backyard and perhaps an underground water storage.
So far the funds are lacking but a man can dream ;)

The one part of my kit I have not paid probably enough attention to is water filtration. I am currently using a hiking pump made by Katadyn which uses a charcoal filter and then I put 1 or 2 drops of bleach in the water.

>I have a portable carbon filter
You've paid better attention to water than 99% of preppers.

>btw im dutch so if any of you are Dutch
Eurotrash needs to leave

how do you pickle stuff without giving yourself food poisoning

Well good to know then. We drank alot of water which was purified with bleach in the Marine Corps so I am hopeful there are no long term negatives to that process.

I guess lots of vinegar and salt and sealing it in a clean jar?
My grandparents used to store food in hug vats.
Veggies and fruit mostly

Yeah people often go mad for the "cool" stuff but completely forget to be practical.
Hence why im here
>Im also not rich

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Vinny why you posting on here? we already went over there.

A porta-filter is good enough to quench your thirst from the nearest ditch. A little bottle with bleach and a drop dispenser is also very good. In addition I can recommend water cleaning pills; you will find them in the pool remedies section of your hardware store. 200 pills for maybe 20 bucks; each pill cleans a gallon of water for microorganisms in two hours. You might also find something similar as milsurp; this stuff used to be packed in the canteen pouch.

I am with you there man. I bought the ultimate in underlooked item many years ago and it has paid off big time.

A pressure canner, I now have the ability to preserve any meat which I harvest or acquire after SHTF. I currently can my own chicken and venison but will be able to do it over the fire if need be. It will just be more tempermental.

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Oh, and learn to make a basic filter from fireplace coals, sand and gravel. Boy scout level knowledge.

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No.
I want better rights for the individual in my country.
Seems like everyday unarmed civilians get messed up by pieces of shit.
It doesnt get reported on much but these days the country side seems to attract more drug crime i.e. more organized and dangerous criminals.
Would be a good thing if a 60 year old farmer could pull out a 50 cal and blast the guys instead of hope the police will even do a fuck about it.

Also, this version which I bought is precision engineered so that it requires no gaskets so there is no parts to wear or replace in SHTF

That looks cool but ive no idea what it is?
Think ive heard it mentioned before though.
Something about them being like 100 bucks.

I have some boyscout level knowledge like i can make that tripod properly, but our scout leaders were faggots who didnt even want to teach us to make fire...
So I had to learn a lot of shit on my own.

It allows you to pressure can meats in mason jars similar to how you would do vegetables. You cannot can meat without a pressure canner because normal canners will not get the vegetables up to temperature.

ah okay thats neat.
Whats the life on canned meats?

Years.

I have used some of mine up to 2 years later with no problems.

thats good for making your water clear looking but wont make it safe to drink from microbes. id rather drink boiled brown water than crystal clear intestinal disease water

Jerky does well too no?
Have you thought of having one of those cellars that practically serve as freezers?

Your doing it lopsided. Any shtf event you can imagine is going to affect your ability to access or retain only 6 things;
Food
Water
Shelter
Security
Healthcare
Comms

Build a reasonable stockpile of all of those items to see you through short and medium term events. Build the skills that’ll help you grow, make, produce, or barter for what you need in the long term. If you don’t have a reference library, you’re not prepping. Infographics on your desktop is maximum larp. Get real fucking books, that you can read by candlelight if need be. It doesn’t hurt to have the same books as pdf’s on your phone, as long as you have a solar charger. When you get a new phone, load your old one with pdf’s, YT videos, and as much porn as it’ll hold. The info will keep you alive, the porn will get you friends.

Not feasible in the area that I live, but if it works where you are great!

Jerky can do well but its just so variable in your results. I would rather trust the canning because I know with almost 100% certainty that the meat with be safe to eat. I don't want to get sick in a SHTF world where there are no functioning hospitals.

Thanks Steve

Can confirm I have eaten 10 year old MRE's with no problems.

lol

>porn
lol nice

yeah you definitely dont want to fall ill when there's no doctors around xD

Speaking of which, not sure if you are OP or not. But you should buy the book " Where there are no Doctors". Good book on medicine for the layman.

>Yes I am OP
but that info is good for anyone also thanks :D

Where's the cheapest place to buy Russian MREs?
I found one full day pack on ebay for 30 dollars + free shipping.
Any slavaboos itt?

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Are Russian MREs trustworthy though?

I've eaten some before actually and they taste good, they used to be way too expensive though.

Well as long as they are good im alright with it.
I wouldnt trust american MREs either depending on where they come from.
I mean who's gonna check whether they put some bad crap in there?

have you tried russian dildos before? They are just like regular dildos but have russian letters on them and they cost more, but other than that they are the same.

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I dont know why but using the costanza image just made that 100% better, Jerry! A 100%!!!

Any of you in here?
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>I wouldnt trust american MREs either depending on where they come from.
>I mean who's gonna check whether they put some bad crap in there?
the FDA. it's going to be some of the safest preservative laden onions product you'll ever have the chance to consume.

Really?
I guess it's just the Russian ones then.

There's videos out there of people eating WW1 MRE's and it's still alright.

>it's still alright
it's absolutely not still alright. don't kid yourself.

It’s quick entertainment until you can start brewing beer and distilling booze. Those might take a while to get to, because the resources might not be available right away.

>WW1 MRE's
MREs didn’t exist during WW1. Those people are eating some random canned nasty.