France used to be the undisputed masters of warfare and the most martial of all nations and now they’re just...

They’re still belligerent shits, but in the modern world they’ve turned all that frustration inwards

* north algeria

yes but it's much better than having an antigun population who precipitate the loss like in the UK

Ignorant fucktards like you spread a meme you lack the capacity to understand. To keep it simple it was (((leftists)) in the civilian government preventing any meaningful military reforms post WWI. From 1814-1871 and then from 1873-1940, finally 1945-today the French have been better or on par with most other white nations in war.

not really, it miggt be able to slow the erosion of your rights by a few years but that's about it
that's the thing with apathy, they may not be foaming at the mouth for your shit but they sure as fuck don't mind throwing it all down the shitter when given the option, either

>France used to be the undisputed masters of warfare and the most martial of all nations
When they were the largest, most centralized and especially most populous country of Europe. Basically bullying minor Euro countries with tiny populations for centuries.

Metrosexuality

>blocks your grande armee

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Verdun broke them, spiritually.

I mean they took such horrendous casualties that the military literally mutinied at one point but sure.

>buying into French hype and propaganda that they were ever good at war.

France is good at marketing and branding. Not much else.

>UK
>HRE
>Austria
>Spain
>minor Euro countries with tiny populations

They are good at killing niggers in their former colonies.

>dies in the process

Algeria? Indo-China? Better??

Pretty much.

Stop browsing r/historymemes and perpetuating the same 5 epic world war 2 myths

Napoleon committed genocide on all of france's brave men because he was a jewish socialist. The rest of Europe did the same thing to themselves 100 years later and are in the same state of utter pathetic cowardice as france.

lel?

Don't forget Prussia and Russia. Absolute madman.

When talking about the greatest men in history there's only three contenders. Alexander, Julius Caesar, and Napoleon.

Manlets confirmed worse than Jews

Between the revolutionary wars and napoleonic wars France lost more men per capita than during WW1 which is pretty awful for a country that already had a pretty low birthrate compared to England at the time. That's not even counting the genocide in Vendee, Chouanneries and Reign of Terror. Short answer is liberal ideas took hold in France sooner than anywhere else, which explains why its birthrate went to shit and France lost its demographic advantage over the rest of Europe when it mattered the most against during the rise of the German Empire.

The Dreyfuss Affair

> they’re just cheese-eating surrender monkeys.

Nice American education

French are still the most powerful military European country and the only one able to project their force

We recently won a war in Mali, brainlet

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Mmh this is some lovely bait you got there OP

OH NO NO NO not the fuckin French

>The military history of France encompasses an immense panorama of conflicts and struggles extending for more than 2,000 years across areas including modern France, Europe, and a variety of regions throughout the world.

According to historian Niall Ferguson: "of the 125 major European wars fought since 1495, the French have participated in 50 – more than Austria (47) and England (43). Out of 168 battles fought since 387 BC, they have won 109, lost 49 and drawn 10", making France the most successful military power in European history—in terms of number of fought and won.[1][2]

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OH NO NO NO how do they still win wars in the 21st while we're completely irrelevant?

REEEEEEEEEE

Succesful operation Serval in MALI:

youtube.com/watch?v=LMl-O_aP43s

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It got constantly invaded for like 800 years. Mostly by smaller countries.

>the French were good at warfare
During what period?

Just because the US is basically a war-cult continent where industry, politics and culture flow into the military, it doesn't mean that other nations don't have a capable military. For what it's worth, France is plenty capable.

>The military history of France encompasses an immense panorama of conflicts and struggles extending for more than 2,000 years across areas including modern France, Europe, and a variety of regions throughout the world.

>According to historian Niall Ferguson: "of the 125 major European wars fought since 1495, the French have participated in 50 – more than Austria (47) and England (43). Out of 168 battles fought since 387 BC, they have won 109, lost 49 and drawn 10", making France the most successful military power in European history—in terms of number of fought and won.[1][2]

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We still are, it's just American memes and butthurt third worlders.
Freedom fries never 4get, admit going there was a mistake and apologize

Nice numbers but what period were they good at war?

Are you stupid? Look up their history and find out for yourself.

Always brainlet

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Medevial period: invaded multiple times by a country a third of its size
1500-1800: got repeatedly fucked in Italy but no real major wars
Napoleonic war: did well but lost
1850-1945: got fucked by germans
1945-2000: got fucked by all of their colonies

>they did one thing in the second World War
Oh wow that almost makes up for losing their entire country

>that KDA

Nazis always gloat about how the German military got a 10 to 1 kill ratio against the commies or whatever, but man, those Frenchies performed pretty well against even Rommel at Bir Hakeim.

>*Dabs on the North African Campaign*

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Paris commune was defeated, this is what happened.

Spain was always a backwater. HRE was a lose confederation and not a centralised state.

Austria was more focused on repeated Ottomon invasion and the UK kept them limited to the continent and eventually defeated them.

Frances achievements were impressive, but as the other user pointed out, they were the biggest, richest and most populous country in Europe at the time.
The only larger country was Russia, and we all know how that invasion turned out.

They were saved by Russia, UK and US of A.

>project their force

Only by ringing up the UK and asking to borrow their planes

THAnk you mate ! Nice planes

>leftists in the civilian government
>From 1814-1871
Not sure if bait or actual retard.

Is is what you proud of? Kek

Better than bombing children if you ask me

>now they’re just cheese-eating surrender monkeys.
>What happened?
A smear campaign by the actual cowards, the British

what's a yellow vest for $500?

I wasn't aware the yellow vests were protesting the new gun laws, I thought the whole thing started because of the increase in fuel prices

>no Fredrick the Great
You disappoint me

Some awful desert tribe subverted them

>France used to be the undisputed masters of warfare and the most martial of all nations and now they’re just cheese-eating surrender monkeys.What happened?

The French were never good at war. The Franks were. Pre revolutionary Frances elite units were swiss, Irish, Scottish etc, Napoleon did have success but ultimately was crushed and his success was based really on the ideal of the national standing army and conscription. He bled France dry and lost but his best troops were not French, see polish lancers etc. They lost again against the Prussians in 1870 and were only saved again by the, scots, irish (and Canadian scots Irish descended troops) and English troops in ww1 and the same pattern repeats in ww2. Really the French army collapsed after the battle of culloden in 1745 after which the English parliament outlawed Scots and Irish going to serve under French arms

Fellow europoor here, how are your gun laws? Can you purchase? Carry?

As an example when Napoleon went into exile of all units he choose the polish lancers as his personal guard, the personal guards and protectors of the King of France on the battlefield were either scottosh, Irish or swiss. Says it all really. If you are in charge of France and have a choice you don't choose Frenchmen to protect your hide.

>387 BC
>France
Anglo-Saxon "historians", everybody.

Samefag another quick point regarding Napoleon, most of his successful period was when at least half his troops were *not French* At La Grande Armée's peak in 1812, more than half the troops that marched into Russia were non-French and represented 20 different countries, including Austrian and Prussian troops. When Napoleon only had French troops he lost. Of course Napoleon himself was not actually French but Corsican. Neither did Napoleon favour French women, he fucked Poles, Austrians and an Italian mistress but never considered French women. Good sense. The French in their own right as opposed to the Corsicans, Bretons etc were always a miserable, physically undersized and cowardly breed particularly in the south of the country due to interbreeding with arabs before Charles Martel acted and using Frankish troops conquered France.

Yes but take away Napoleon whos grand armee was 60% non French and that collapses dramatically. Equally take away their 'victories' in ww1 and ww1 or in the pre revolutionary period (they always lost unless they fielded swiss, scottish, breton or Irish units) its even more pathetic. The French were always shit at war

The grand armee ceased to be grand when it was French after 1812 and the French kings army was a collection of mincing idiots after Scots and Irish stopped coming in 1750. I should know. I was there.

The French are a joke.
Regardless of what is said in this thread. Every man will at some point share the joke with his friends or family about them being faggot surrendering cowards, this is life now france.
You are irrelevant.

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careful or some French mime artist will threaten you with the homosexual wrath of the foreign legion

England has fought 35 wars with France since 1066; England won 23, lost 11, and determined a mutual defeat after the American Revolution.

France you are gey.

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The ones France held were due to the application of foreign elite troops being committed at the crux of the battle. Much as I find to dislike in the English culturally they were better soldiers than the French (not hard) until the industrial revolution, by the boer war they were worn down to shit and the best of them were welsh, scots or irish with the occasional decent officer but ww1 killed off the end of that

>Indo-China
>Post-war wrecked France having huge communists problems at home, huge government instability issues, but still maintaining a frankly token garrison with no clear goal in mind

>Algeria
>FLN getting their shit pushed in all the way until De Gaulle realizes keeping Algeria means keeping 10 millions muzzies who breed like rabbits, giving them full citizenship, on top of a third world colony already soaking up 20% of the budget

Algeria was literally beating up someone in a contest, and then realizing that the prize was literally made of shit.

>The ones France held were due to the application of foreign elite troops being committed at the crux of the battle
t. Most Famous victory over the French was due to Prussians

Check'd

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>Most french people are ok with guns.
In the countryside, yes.
The average weed selling monkey in the suburbs, sure.
The average city dwelling cuckold, fuck no.

Last time I've worked with Americans, I've heard they said we were very "professional".
Most people talking shit about X country/army are ignorant kids who've never done anything in their entire lives.

>Boer Wars

Yeh that worked out brilliantly for the Boers mate.

>Yeh that worked out brilliantly for the Boers mate.

I take it you are referring to Churchill's continuous homage to their military tactics because you can't be referring to the miserable wretches and specimemins that came from English industrial slums

"40-60% of
volunteers to the army, mainly from working class backgrounds, were rejected on medical grounds.
In some towns nearly all young men were turned away.
In the aftermath of the war, newspapers and writers associated the problems of the British Empire
with the poor health of many British people, arguing that a malnourished and unhealthy nation
could not rule the biggest empire in the world.
The Committee on Physical Deterioration was set up in 1903 and recommended that the
government introduce:
 compulsory medical inspections of children in schools
 free school meals for the very poor
 training in mothering skills for working class women."

Selective cherry-picking at its best, you could say the same about basically any European country of that era.

But good on you trying to make a point out of your meme knowledge of history.

The great merit of the Americans is their willingness to actually fight, the great merit of the French is their ability to make a pretence of their willingness to fight

Reminder that France lost around the same number of soldiers in the 4 years of WWI as the US across their entire history since the revolutionary war, both sides of the civil war included, only to be told by overfed mutts whose only war experience and knowledge is Hollywood movies that they don't know what it means to sacrifice

Niggers

Learn the history of your own country boy, recruiters could not take volunteers from towns in England because they were too unhealthy, so much so it provoked a national crisis and the newspapers of the time in England were full of panic over the issue. The industrial slums, poor nutrition and general conditions of the urban English was appalling resulting in undersized scrawny and physically and mentally weak offspring.

bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/z9924qt/revision/5
A report in 1889 by Charles Booth showed that 35 percent of Londoners were living in abject poverty.
Another report in 1901 by Seebohm Rowntree, found that half the population of York were living in poverty.
During the Boer War of 1899–1902 a third of those who volunteered to fight were rejected because of poor health.

Yet America or the UK was never in serious risk of invasion in WW1. They send men to die defending France, as did Canada and innumerable other places. The French singularly failed in the core principle of being capable of defending their own territory and required other nations to do so. The ability to die is not remarkable by the way, the ability to win is what matters

>Boers Lose
>Become subjects of British Empire

I'm referring to that you moron.

Germany was twice as big population wise, so why don't you level that same accusation against fucking Belgium as well

>The French singularly failed in the core principle of being capable of defending their own territory and required other nations to do so.
By the same token, the US singularly failed in the core principle of being able to fight for their independence since they required both France and Spain in order to do so.

And yes, without both of them US citizens would still be subjects of Her Majesty, sipping tea with crumpets.

This is what your (if you are French) problem is, what you talk about isn't enough. You cant back your shit and when other people do you forget about it over the years and pipe up again.

The Germans curb stomped you twice and now you want to jump into bed with them because you cant stand to admit Britain is was and always will be superior to you. The term cutting your nose off to spite your face comes to mind.

By the way, Bretons do not consider themselves French yet in one of the most insidious acts of cowardice the French make sure to conscript heavily and send them to fight in the worst conditions (and unlike the French, they could fight), utilising WW1 as a means to genocide an entire nationality who's existence upset Parisian civil servants ever since the revolution. Al lot of modern observers make much of the French being occupied by arabs and north Africans...I don't its not particularly new, its all they ever did before and minus Breton, Scots, Irish and Franks they could never defend themselves preferring to offer their women and goods as loot while burying bags of coins for their own use. They were always wretched things like Prussian commoners but the French propensity for craven pretension and calculated cowardice is unique.

Democracy

They got planes from the US

>why don't you level that same accusation against fucking Belgium as well

Because Belgium is not a people it is a modern invention. Its the old battleground. Its always been a battlefield and not much else. 'The germans' were never one people either or the Italians for that matter. They have been mashed together in an unrecognisable mass by the antics of Prussia over the previous century but Saxons and barvarians (and I remember this well) hated Prussians far more than the French

>let me tell you about yourself
embarrassing

And by the way, it's a pure myth debunked by stats and the simple fact that conscripts were not segregated by origin.

As if I care what some half breed French mongrels interpretation of the past is.

Busy rewriting history again eh pierre?

>giving them full citizenship
It's as if you have no fucking idea how the war even started....

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21004040
We got you there
flightglobal.com/news/articles/royal-air-force-lifts-lid-on-sentinel39s-role-in-388092/
We watched over you
ukdefencejournal.org.uk/raf-chinooks-continue-supporting-french-operations-in-mali/
We still have to fly your shit about

You are a JOKE France.

Please tell me how you think it started and how it's even relevant to that post, because it's as if you have no fucking idea what you are talking about