So now that Due Process is dead for gun owners and red flag laws mean that any angry facebook contact who loses a...

>we basically have to start hiding our stockpiles in cache form now?
you should have already

>burying your guns
The nanosecond some kind of entity tries to confiscate my firearms over some dumbfuck rationale based on my political beliefs is the nanosecond I intend to exercise the 2nd Amendment in its purest, most intended form.

What if you're at work when the abc niggers come home? See my point?

No, you're completely right. We're arguing two different points. All I'm saying is that you shouldn't *solely* roll over and bury your guns in response to gun control, like some Yuro/non-US Anglo-fags have done. Always resist.

Man, I hated 8ch*n and I'm glad that it's gone, but not like this. It shouldn't have died like this.

You're part of the problem, fag. Also 8ch isn't dead just moving stuff around.

Based. Never forget, user, if you think cops coming to take your guns will just let you cone quietly, you're dead wrong. They'll give you the dorner treatment whether you're a threat or not.

Your only pro or negative thpights on his statements is tbe grammar?
Weak as fuck

Fucking this I faced the local seat team. I sued and they one based on the fact that I am considered by them to be an considerable threat to them based on my military experience.
the thing is I was a fucking 88m. a fucking truck driver. I served 3 yrs before being injured in a vehicle collision caused by some drunk infantryman

I'm right about ready to delete my facebook account that I never use anyway, but people tag me on their photos when I take them to the range

you're a fucking idiot if you tell people you have modern guns. only thing i show people is a shitty traditions kentucky kit.

it's called get off social media and don't talk about guns irl you fuckin sperg

>Freemasons love gun control because it brings the new world order closer to being achieved so Jews can rule over a mulatto slave race in a borderless world
That's crazy talk. Next you're gonna tell me rich white people support unchecked immigration also.

Jamal posts a video on Instagram of himself and 3 other validated gang members with stolen weapons making verbal threats about killing rivals
300,000 views
>Feds don't even pick up the phone

White guy talks about the Constitution and has several firearm purchases in the year says the word Jew out loud in a social setting with buddies
>3 year 20 million$ investigation into radical hate speech group that culminates in the door kicking and gunning down of a family of 4 as well as the pet dog

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Really makes you think what these laws are really targeting.

Stop fedposting, retard. None of this shit would have happened if you dumbfucks could go 5 seconds without talking about blowing up the federal government. In Minecraft or otherwise.

If you just kept your head down and did what the gaurds said instead of stirring up trouble talking about storming the gates of the concentration camp you wouldn't get so many beatings

That's what you sound like faggot

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Convince everyone that nationalism and racism is bad
Meanwhile being the most nationalist racists at the same time
And the left wonders why I don't respect them

Then again the Jews are maybe a century away from rebuilding the temple and having the new world order populated by mulatto slaves
Say what you want but they get results

im mildly worried because im a vet who doesnt talk to his family, though they still try to talk to me.
they don't know anything about me anymore but im sure if they were to go to the police they'd tell them how to make sure i dont kill myself or something.
next thing i know im getting a fucking loud knock on my door and getting a gun pointed at me because my family sucks?

and the nra is zero help as usual

i'll blow up your asshole with my cock, you faggot

When they come for the guns, comply, but give them the bullets first, at high velocity.

They fucking better, because the Dorner treatment is what I'll be giving them.

You better believe they can and will use the mechanisms of the state for their own personal ends. I was on the receiving end of my workplace using a federal agency as an HR contractor.

Shit is a lot more traumatizing than people make it out to be whether or not you get something that shows up on a commercial/gov background check (you won't if it's just an encounter though you will have an FBI file). They literally have no idea since they don't think it can happen to them.

Myself, I am personally carrying around copies of the year old NO STEP letter the lawyer wrote for me in case they decide to get glowie again. I wonder if there is some sort of mechanism that you could get a letter from a lawyer inputted into court records saying that any LEO who contacts you needs to go through your lawyer (including a few lines that you are sound of mind and harmless, and perhaps that you desire limited contact with family), but of course that requires paying a retainer fee which some cannot afford.

I'm worried. I can feel the hammer about to drop.
I'm supposed to pickup a rifle from my local ffl and I don't even know if I'll pass the background check now.
I just hope they refund my money if I can't take it home.

They might even call the cops. I recall that even attempting to acquire a firearm as a restricted person is a crime.

I've never even heard of a gun store calling the cops for a denial. Usually they just tell you to get the fuck out.

In this climate I would expect that they will fuck you over for easy media exposure, especially just to say "look: see, the gun community is policing our own!".

If you're denied you aren't a customer nor will you ever be again so it's super easy to throw you under the bus for free brownie points.

>mfw red flag laws end up wasting the governments time and money with tons of false leads while the actual threats slip by

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Well I used the j word on k and got an FBI visit.
Hope it's just another thing to add to my file. I don't wanna get swatted or red flagged for purchasing multiple firearms.
True story. This isn't a larp. Don't give the (((monitors))) here a reason to send the thought crime police to your door. I regret it.

>Well I used the j word on k and got an FBI visit.
bullshit.

Get a lawyer and request he write a letter to the field office those agents came from stating that you are his client and they must go through him if they want to contact you. Don't expect a response: I didn't get one.

Use this to get your records: fbi.gov/services/information-management/foipa/requesting-fbi-records

This is the letter template I used (spliced together several online ones):

Dear FOI/PA officer:

This is a query under the Privacy Act (5 U.S.C. § 552a).

I hereby request any and all documents, communication and memos relating to
myself, ______ also know as ______. Please search all relevant indexes in all FBI locations and field offices known to contain data and case files. To aid in the expedition of this request I am providing the following information.

Address:
__________
__________

Social Security Number (SSN): ___-__-____

This is an individual request for non-commercial research and study purposes, and I agree that I will pay up to $30 for fees, if necessary. Please notify me in advance if fees are expected to exceed that amount.

If you have any questions, email me at _________.

Under penalty of perjury, I hereby declare that I am the person named above and I understand that any falsification of this statement is punishable under the provisions of Title 18, United States Code (U.S.C.), Section 1001 by a fine of not more than $10,000 or by imprisonment of not more than five years, or both; and that requesting or obtaining any record(s) under false pretenses is punishable under the provisions of Title 5, U.S.C., Section 552a(i)(3) as a misdemeanor and by a fine of not more than $5,000.

Thanks,
______

>6+ month wait
>offering to pay more won't speed it up
>numbers assignment notified only via snail mail
>last pages show back end database results and case file workflow, including whether your case was "closed" at the time you queried.
Interestingly when my file came back, the lawyer's letter was "missing".

No. I was going pretty hard. And me and the Israeli guys on here started recognizing eachother by image posts. So we went back and forth for a about a year.
Long story short
> I got baited into posting some incriminating stuff
>They sent some screencaps to the FBI and got me soft vanned

I shouldn't have been so hostile with the agents. They were just doing their job. But I was full SHALL NOT mode. Sheriff was escorting them and they said they were with the sheriff's office.
But yeah. This entire board is constantly monitored by j words. It just really bummed me out that foreign nationals can have US citizens investigated . We don't even have a country anymore Bros.

They probably got word of the multiple guns at 1 time purchase since some of those need to be reported by law. As sickening as this sounds they probably also correlated the vet status and perhaps VA records (mental health treatment?)

Hey man. That meant a lot to me. Thank you. I will take this under consideration. But it's like being scared to open your lab results because you might find out you have AIDS. I'm scared to know the truth.
Being on the radar sucks.

>doesn't this now mean we basically have to start hiding our stockpiles in cache form now?

You haven't been doing this already?

If you got it, you got it
Finding out just benefits you

In my case it was just the 2 glows. It was almost like they were on company payroll since the investigation was "closed" the next business day after my direct manager at the time called the SA assigned to the case, as if on command. There were other sickening things in the file as well, such as how the company's HR guy tried to denigrate my position at the time and how he and other managers and executives were describing the company to the agent as if he were an investor, purposely stretching the truth to inflate it into something it is not.

I used to respect the FBI as an organization. Now I experienced first hand that they are little more than corporate contract thugs.

not the guy you replied to, but I just submitted an e-file for mine with this info, thank you.

They love to take their sweet time with this. If you had an encounter do not be surprised if their account is a little different than what you remember, not only due to human memory errors and perception but also due to the fact they are fucktards with no integrity. This is why you should record all your interactions with glows since its their word against yours, and they are always more credible. I made that mistake and got lucky since I made it pretty clear that I was harmless and wouldn't be a good case to parade around for media asspats so the file was not entirely false but others won't be so lucky.

I don't know man. Being an armchair revolutionary was all fun and games until you realize what you're up against.
I think the real power comes from just destroying your faith in your fellow man. I don't know if fighting against it is worth it. I mean assange should have been the cause de celeb for all journalists and they just turned their back and went along with it.
Rome wasn't even this powerful at subjugation.
>Rome was also brought down by 5th column foreign Invaders being tolerated
I'm just gonna move to Maine and give up on fighting the good fight.

I wasn't even a revolutionary. Just a person they couldn't find a justifiable reason to fire: they needed my work, but I wasn't willing to play along with their fucked up games. I know there were at least a few coworkers who wanted my job for themselves or their family/friends.

>Convince everyone that nationalism and racism is bad
>Meanwhile being the most nationalist racists at the same time
>And the left wonders why I don't respect them

Amen.

Always keep some guns stored offsite. Buy one of those storage lockers, bury some near your house, etc, etc. Don't tell anyone.

Look at what the world did to South Africa? You think Israel is ever gonna see that kinda unified pressure on them? No. They pass laws here making it illegal to do to Israel what we did to South Africa.
Lethal weapon is never gonna have isralies as the antagonists. It's illegal to divest or sanction them already.

>I shouldn't have been so hostile with the agents. They were just doing their job. But I was full SHALL NOT mode.

Absolutely not, the moment you give them an inch you're fucked. Honestly I don't think you should have even spoken to them until you had a lawyer present. All it takes is one little slip, one honest mistake in your wording and you're up shit creek without a paddle.

I fucked up and used the word crusade
Eyebrows went up
Notes were written
>What do you mean by that
I just meant a crusade for truth and justice. Journalists use the term all the time and get away with it.
Pretty soon truth will be a red flag term that can get you investigated.

This

Depending on lobbyists instead of lead
C'mon guys. I trust one more than the other.

Red flag goes to court because they come to your house. That's due process

>and the nra is zero help as usual
sweet, sweet millennial tears

noguns confirmed

>This isn't a larp.
sure kid

>you go hoisted by your own petard.
BRUH SHOULDA VOTED HILLDAWG BRUH SHE NEVER WOULDA DONE THIS BRUH LOL DRUMPHLERITES ETERNALLY BTFO BRUH

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Man really just stop posting

and thats how gun rights will fade away into death

That's easy. Mass exodus, and regroup in red states. We form our own autonomous realm and hold the boundary against those barbarians.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=kUox_hQAih8

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>I'm a vet
I don't blame you. The last thing I'm sure you guys want is your own people turning on you, on your own home soil. Not even joking

Pay indentured slaves no real wages
Workers can't even demand shit ot they get deported
If you dont feel like paying you just deport them anyways
Literally Rober barons
Pay no taxes
No issues at all with osha, public pays for medical bills

Idk user unchecked immigration is pretty profitable.

>He hasn't planned for a Red Flag raid
>he hasn't hardened his doors to slow down the breach
>he hasn't rigged up cameras
>he hasn't staged firearms throughout his house
>he doesn't keep one on him at all times when out of the house to ensure a death in battle
>he isn't actively hoping for one
Get off Jow Forums

>hoping for one
lol no. In all honesty I just want my family and I to be left alone, but I recognize that chances are slim that they will let us be. Still, I don't hope to be put in a situation that I either die or go to jail and leave my family alone in this shitty world.

>family
Yeah that's gonna be a huge hinderance here in a bit.

Believe me I know, I worry about it all the time.

I feel ya too man. Wife talks of kids and all I think of is the shit hole we seem headed towards.