Gun control has officially won. Do you know why?

Post bumpstock

>hes done more to restrict gun laws in 3 years than obungo did in 8
total bullshit, he pushed for the ATF to reclassify bump stocks which, while complete grabbing bullshit and not okay, is fucking minor. Obama effectively stopped the entirety of Russian imports to us, which is in and of itself WAY more effectual.
>now we have the biggest spending deficit in US history and are suffering from the beginning symptoms of stagflation
Yeah okay shillbot, how about you go suckstart a 12 gauge and rid us of your demoralization posts.

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>You got gun bans because you didn't accept gun control

That's not the way it works moron.

I am a pansy, I don't want violence. Our issue is a culture/ideology issue, and I will spend the rest of my life educating people on guns and your rights that are given to you by GOD not a government, instead of shitposting and destabilizing people.

>he cant even refute basic economic data
user, I..

>post bumpstock
So you must be completely retarded then and unable to comprehend basic english.
>off the back of these attacks
As in the attacks that just happened, clearly not the one that happened half a decade ago now.
While bumpstock banning was absolute bullshit and indeed was a grab move, it's not significant grabbing in any way. It's the equivalent of the ATF's repeated fuckery with the brace issue which, again while it's bullshit and IS infringement, isn't anywhere close to "gun control has officially won" like the shit-tier OP posted.
>given to you by GOD
Tell me why I'm not surprised that the christcuck is a defeatist. Fuck your religion, it's why you're such a fucking pansy who will inevitably just give up when the tide comes in.
>cant even refute basic economic data
Do you know what the word data means? Because you didn't post any, so there was nothing to refute other than your bland baseless claim.

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actually faggot you should buy more lowers and mags for the next generation,, I don't have the "I got mine" mentality

>he still cant bring up a single point refuting we are suffering from stagflation
seriously man, disregard everything else, Ill play devils advocate and say you are right.

How are we not in the beginning stages of stagflation?

The Boogaloo won't be anymore coordinated or effective than The Troubles in Ireland. Maybe scale it for population but that's it. There is no ethnic or religious zeal to guns in America so you will never get the proper amount of fanatics and normie support that you need. People absolutely will resist, but each year the resistance will be less and less. If the U.K. could survive the troubles than America will survive the Boogaloo.

>How are we not in the beginning stages of stagflation
The onus to prove that we are is on you, you made the positive claim that we are experiencing stagflation.
But regardless I'll bite
>historically low unemployment
>economic growth has been thundering ahead for years now
It's like you don't even understand the terms you're using or something...

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He also hasn't done anything to protect gun owners or repeal gun regulations.

Neither did Obama and he did incredible damage to the public perception of firearms in the US. The goalposts keep moving here, but regardless Trump has not "done more to restrict gun laws" than Obama did, and the whole sentiment that gun control has somehow "won" is complete nonsense.

this. nat'll debt is actually fucking scary and when it comes time to pay it off there aint enough money to go around

The scary thing is the Boogaloo could become ethnic. There's no real way to identify who your enemy is so it's either just going to be mass shooters in bits and pieces until we're at an authoritarian place, or you use racial voting statistics and that's a pretty spooky path. Not that it's one the leftists are shying away from. It's of course why white libtards need to virtue signal around the clock.

Only real hope is another big war, to purge the government of weak politicians and revive the value of manhood in America

you reply to argue not to learn, no matter what I say, youll just shitpost.
Do the research yourself, what is currently happening with unemployment as deficits rise? unemployment is rising as well. During periods of inflation, the beginning has huge job growth (what we saw after trump was elected) then soon industries decline (steel) which then trump puts up tariffs so we can keep the jobs we were losing. This is a simple dumbed down version of whats happening, but do the work yourself. You are a big boy, I dont need to spoon feed you.

This man speaks the truth, we live in uncertain times, I pray that we make it through alright and prosper. Stay strong brothers, the journey is not close to ending yet.

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>when it comes time to pay it off
Do you even understand how national debt works? Who is going to call in a payoff? It literally doesn't work anything like that.

another country will "do the favor" of subsidizing debt off of us in assistance, in exchange for political power elsewhere in the world.

>Maybe scale it for population but that's it
That's literally been every civil war/internal conflict since the dawn of humanity.

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You're thinking the states will bend over and just accept it. Without realizing they will do the same thing Cali et al will do if abortion was banned:
>Fuck off, we're doing it regardless.
Which is where things get dicy - If Governor Abbot says "Fuck off we have our own 2nd amendment" what happens when the ATF tries to bust an off-duty Texan state trooper or Texan representative who has a gun?

>now hes done more to restrict gun laws in 3 years than obungo did in 8

Not because of lack of effort. This narrative always falls flat on its face when you people forget we almost had a permanent AWB pass under Obama. It was only because of SENATORS that it didn't pass, as did other shit. Obama tried his hardest and it's always a shilling crock of shit when you act like he was gun friendly.

You continue to not post anything but conjecture, you are really fucking bad at this man.
>unemployment is rising as well
Good lord how dumb are you? Pic related.
>steel industry in decline
The steel industry in the US has been in decline since the '90s. We had a brief upturn in the industry recently, but all you're seeing right now is that temporary bounce start to level out again. There is not a steel crisis, and you know nothing about what you're speaking of.
>dumbed down
You certainly can call your conjecture dumb.

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>projecting this much
Obungo is a piece of shit, who set up our shitty economy for inflationary policies after he was gone, do not say I am shilling for him

The problem with the gun right movement, and many movements for that matter, is that they don't know how to argue their case.

Everybody brings up 2A. 2A doesn't mean shit. You want to protect 2A? Bring up all the good guns do. Bring up cases where a tiny woman didn't get brutalized by a big man because they had a Saturday Night Special. Bring up cases where simply pointing a gun at an aggressor stopped things from getting worse. Bring up police response times, invasive hog populations, or even how many Americans are employed by the small arms industry.

Then point out how many mass shootings were done with illegally obtained guns (most, if not all) and ask how more laws will help.

In case you want to pretend that there is increasing unemployment in the US. It's literally the opposite right now.

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>ad hominems
>insert blatantly false facts

are we being raided?

You have never taken a statistics course in your life, that graph shows a 1 year interval, this is deliberately misleading you bot.

>blatantly false facts
False how? What is your major malfunction? I literally just posted the Bureau of Labor chart that shows unemployment is FALLING, not rising you nog.
>Ad hominems mean we're being raided
literally fuck off newfag, this entire board has always been riddled with ad hominems. that's this whole site in general, go back to r*ddit you transplant shit.

You're a fucking moron too illiterate and unAmerican to see the bigger picture

How about 5 years, you cum guzzling tranny?

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>graph is over 1 year interval
>asks my malfunction

go to school

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Nah I work for a manufacturer if australia tier gun control passes I will literally lose my house

How about you bring up the IS/LM curve and then bring up these arguments?
What does rising employment mean? it means people are getting jobs more than before? why are more people working now than before? You work because you need money, people are getting POORER so they work more.

learn son.

Look retard I graduated high school during the Obama administration and I was competing for dishwashing jobs with fucking businessmen

>You work because you need money, people are getting POORER so they work more.

Are you really this dumb?

>doesnt know people work more than 1 job
Are you really this dumb?

>You work because you need money, people are getting POORER so they work more.
Holy fucking shit how absolutely retarded can you be?
>n-n-no! I'm not wrong, uhhhh people are working CUZ THEY ARE POOR
Are you literally AOC? That's some democratic-socialist tier retardation.
>IS/LM curve
Ah okay so you're a Keynesian, yeah you're probably retarded for real.
>doesnt know people work more than 1 job
Yeah you're literally making an AOC argument, go back to r*ddit you dumb nigger. Unemployment is aggregate of people seeking and unable to find work, so it's not affected at all by people working multiple jobs. For someone pretending to be a statistical genius and calling people dumb, you really don't seem to know what you are talking about.

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Here's a complete lefty rag that still says you're completely wrong, nigger
politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/18/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-wrong-several-counts-abou/

Stop blaming le jooz for everything.

Sure, jooz are culturally and situationally predisposed towards nefarious nepotism, but plenty of other non-jewish groups and individuals act in similar fashion without throwing their lot in with da jooz and often times acting against the best interest of Jewish people. Are there a lot of Jews who act against individual liberty, etc? Yes. Are Jews generally more likely to act in this way? Almost definitely. Is it only Jews? Lol no. Are all of the people who act in this way and aren't Jews just doing it in service to some grand Jewish conspiracy or for any reason at all related to Judaism? Hell no. Use Occam's razor. Many people act in their own interests and attempt to further their own ambitions at the expense of others. That their interests occasionally align with Jews or groups of Jews who are doing the same thing is generally coincidental.

>t. not a kike

you are clearly underaged.

we're outnumbered.
fudds will support banning "high capacity" shit because you don't need 30 rounds to hit a deer.
Drum mags are gonna go. Pistol braces are gonna go.

they've successfully created a retarded complacent gib me muh rights please daddy gobment population who doesn't understand the first fucking thing about freedom or how rare it is.

I guess it’s Opposite Day. The tranny trolls are just so easy to spot.

>I have no way to refute you so I'll just call you underaged
Born '93, faggot. Try again.

are you saying his graph shows jobs available compared to population? I dont think someone having multiple jobs is going to make the unemployment rate, a measure of those without, at all user.

Now this is demoralization posting. Y’all should have stopped 2 years ago when this operation was working well and causing apathy. Now this shit is comedy and y’all wake more people up. Please continue to counter signal like this because people aren’t that dumb and it wakes them up in a way that is pretty radical.

You need to fix your brain, you sound like a woman.

There is more guns in the USA than there are people. How in the hell is the government going to possibly controll all of that?

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You clearly lack the understanding of precedent. Banning bump stocks sets precedent for banning accessories via E.O. Now your red dots, foregrips, magazines etc. can all be banned via executive order.

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and how many of those are "military style assault rifles"?

they're not talking about banning guns they want to ban scary black rifles.

>Banning bump stocks sets precedent for banning accessories via E.O
>Tells me I lack understanding
>While erroneously claiming the bumpstock ban was an EO
It was bullshit and is grabbing, but first of all you're wrong out of the gate by calling it an EO and second of all if you think the precedent of "the ATF is allowed to randomly redefine machine gun to classify accessories as such" wasn't already set, you have not done much research into the ATF's history.

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The states will bend over and accept it with few exceptions. 90% of the country doesnt live in those states. Shit, my nearest city has more people than all of Wyoming combined. You think anyones gives a fuck when states with no people and no real economic contribution to the union enact laws like that? It doesnt change anything, its the equivalent of when those Bundy tards seized a fucking cabin in the woods. Nobody cared, because in order for it to mean something they needed to storm the state capital. Just like in order for that to matter, a large state like Texas would have to do it. But that is not going to happen. Texas will be blue in 5-10 years.

The same people who are pushing for gun control are the ones who want to make tranny kindergartners a "thing". I'm not complying with any gun control laws. I'm not being disarmed. Because I refuse to live in the world that is currently being planned for us. I would rather be dead. And it seems like every day I run into more people who feel the same way. Gun control has not won yet. I strongly disagree with the idea that nobody will fight back.
By now, it should be pretty apparent that the only thing standing between the average american and living in a single-party multicultural paradise is private firearm ownership. Demographically, the left is guaranteed to win permanently after just a few years. If the guns are gone, the people in charge are not going to ask politely if you want to be replaced with Mexicans who will work for a 50% pay cut. They're not going to ask if you want to have your children sent to the zoos they call public schools. You're going to be told.
Boogaloo is inevitable. Trump is a piece of shit for many reasons, but his treatment by the media and the establishment woke a lot of people up. That's the best thing that could have happened. Prior to 2016 I thought we would slowly fade away into whatever nightmare world is waiting. But now there are enough people who are awake. The game is up. It's only a matter of time until it comes to blows.

>>While erroneously claiming the bumpstock ban was an EO
Yeah youre right, it's even better that they didn't even need one and just merely needed a fucking memo to do so.

>THE CITIES ARE THE ONLY IMPORTANT PART OF THE COUNTRY
>LOL DOOD DO YOU EVEN HAVE AN ECONOMY OR PEOPLE
Peak coastcuck posting. Have fun feeding your cities without us.
>they didn't even need one and just merely needed a fucking memo to do so
Do you know literally any history of the ATF? They've been doing that for literally decades now. While Trump was fucking retarded for calling the ATF to do that shit, they've done exactly that a million damn times already. Is it bullshit? Yeah of course it is, and it's concerning as hell. But it's not the end of gun rights, and in no way has "gun control officially won".

Fuck user, I've looked at this issue a lot but you just made me look through a different lens. I seen the approach of Socialism/Communism rapidly coming up on the horizon, but I never thought guns were the reason it hasn't yet. But shit, we already are being demonized by the media as a whole, and by 50% of our senators. Once they get gun control, it will not take long for the shit you mentioned to happen because our society is already at that point. I never realized it until now, that's fucking scary.

>>THE CITIES ARE THE ONLY IMPORTANT PART OF THE COUNTRY
>>LOL DOOD DO YOU EVEN HAVE AN ECONOMY OR PEOPLE
>Peak coastcuck posting. Have fun feeding your cities without us.
I don't live in a city, but I understand the impact they have on the economy, when one city has the headquarters of 80 fortune 500 companies, and has 20% of US goods pass through it's ports it automatically has more value than a state with nothing in it. The lefty coastal states have farms too, and plenty o land that can be developed. Plus, plenty of "farm " states are already blue, or like I said, 5-10 years away.

>it automatically has more value than a state with nothing in it
From a purely economic standpoint yeah sure, but you're failing to understand that economic value =/= sociopolitical value.
>The lefty coastal states have farms too
And they are far too inadequate relative to the size of their cities to sustain the population for any significant amount of time.

500 million firearms in America, even if only half of that is of working condition and they are all in the hands of 50million people.
Take 10% of that who will protest. Your still looking at 5 million people who are armed and willing to do something in defense of their natural rights.
Comparing this to a few hundred left wing gangsters is not even a bad joke.
This is nothing close to any country ever.

It only takes 1 visionary millionaire/billionaire and enough funds to obliterate gun control. We need a milling machine where we can produce the barrel etc. No 80% ideas, we need to be able to build modern polymer handguns with a good reliability from the comfort of our home, and we would litterally set hundreds of million people if not billions of people free from being slaves. In europe they banned unlicensed magazines, bolts, firing pins, barrels etc.

Shooting people to enforce your 'view' is stupid and unproductive, you can help by donating such organisations or don't comply at all, without using violence. The perceived threat of possible violence is a deterration on itself. Even bongland would strongly reconsider it's course if there are reliable guns being produced in every street

>From a purely economic standpoint yeah sure, but you're failing to understand that economic value =/= sociopolitical value.
That's strictly what I was referring to, and that's exactly what Civil Wars start over. Nobody cares about sociopolitical power, they care if it's worth fighting you when you break their law because of how much money they will lose.

>they care if it's worth fighting you when you break their law because of how much money they will lose.
Yes, but because of the level of armament of rural/non-coastal states, combined with the agricultural importance of them, guarantees that the coasts won't start the civil war. If the megacities were cut off from even a portion of the food trade with rural areas/states they would starve and devolve into utter chaos in months, maybe only weeks.

Gun control might fail when the grabbers win, governments and society collapse in anarchy brazil or color revolution/3rd world style and billions of now illegal weapons make it into the hands of armed paramilitaries, mercenaries, terrorist groups, vigilante civilians, rogue military units, cultists and black arms dealers

Yup. This would be the first time in both world and American history that rations would be implemented in a time of civil war. Also the government is incapable of sending out troops to ensure farm production. Lastly, Martial law would never work in an American city and nobody would ever support a president who suspends Habeas Corpus.

We are so ready! My infographics that others post on 4channel tell me that our side will win!

Lol ok nigger
My guns fight for the proletariat

Sure thing, rabbi

>Why I am trying to explain differense
retard, learn English

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You people are so desperate to convince yourselves you're winning because you tied yourselves to a failing issue and all the concern trolling in the world won't stop the Fortnite Zoomers from buying ARs en masse when they come of age. Your next line is "but surely they'll turn them in if we promise them swag." No. You created an entitled generation and by God they're gonna save us all.

>But even Trump supports gun control

And now as predictable as ever the demoralization shill goes "why even vote." Nervous as fuck since Tulsi bent the DNC's girl Harris over her podium and pegged her bloody with a pineapple strapon.

Money isn't real. Debt isn't real. It's all a shell game based on international power.

The job growth is in low value low paying device sector jobs

Ok rabbi as the epstein child rape blackmail ring has actual connections to Mossad

>Money isn't real. Debt isn't real. It's all a shell game

Knowing this has made playing along even worse than already. I'm doing all this shit so someone's luxurious life doesn't become less luxurious, while I'm the one that has to work so my life doesn't literally end

>device
service

Goddamn it

You are a fuckin idiot.

I arguments I see is "we can't allow these crazy people to get guns"

I'm trying to figure the right words to say that red flag laws are a terrible idea.

awesome

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zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-13/epstein-arrest-casts-ominous-spotlight-clinton-linked-socialite-gal-pal
Lmao sounds like a boomers never jumped down the rabbit hole yet

Well spoken fren. It all gets so tiresome when all you see is "lol the kikes amirite?" when people speak about this. Honestly, at this point I wonder sometimes who's worse: the redditcunts who come up with the most outrageous 12D zog conspiracy posts and graphics and post them here for reactions, false flagging, and screencaps to "lol Jow Forums amirite?" on chapotraphouse, or the poltards who genuinely believe this crap and lap it up.
>t. Kike
>inb4 gas urself, kys, discord tranny, mossad lol, etc. I've been here longer than you summerfags

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I keep forgetting Obama isn't progressive enough for your crowd anymore since he believed borders exist and reparations are dumb.

>This would be the first time in both world and American history that rations would be implemented in a time of civil war
How delusional are you? Rationing in cities is what would CAUSE the riots. People get crazy when they are hungry, this is shown eternally throughout history.
>the government is incapable of sending out troops to ensure farm production
In fact they absolutely are incapable of doing that at the scale necessary in any case, because doing so would require literally millions of troops on constant rotation at every major farm which is entirely unfeasible. There are roughly 2 and a quarter MILLION individual farms in the US, that's more than there are police and military COMBINED in the US (roughly 2 million not accounting for people who are both active Mil and LEO simultaneously).
But all of that is completely ignoring the fact that we are talking about states going to war with each other, and sure as shit Indiana isn't going to let New York or federal troops forcibly occupy farms in order to ship food to the megacities, and if you think they would I've got some swampland to sell you.
>Martial law would never work in an American city
It wouldn't these days, not for any real amount of time. People who are starving are generally desperate enough to face down police, and once the masses start realizing they outnumber the peacekeeping forces by a wide margin you'll have to start deploying the military to keep the peace. Then the farms go back to being unmanned and the starvation gets worse.

Oh and then there’s the ex Israeli prime minister who was seen to visit one of Epstein’s apartments in New York frequently, lmao get bent you utter faggot

I personally believe "normal" (ie non-billionnaire) Jews are convenient lightning rods for the higher ups.

Those are nothing but pawns, but if you actually research the whole Epstein case it’s pretty evident that Epstein didn’t become a billionaire by being a child trafficker more like making blackmail on world politicians

What's that supposed to mean?

okay cortez

Again, more bullshit conjecture backed up by nothing. Pic related is wage growth over the last 5 years; If the entirety of employment growth was low-paying jobs you'd see a decline during unemployment increases that turned into stagnation during employment increases. Instead we've had slow incline with some periods of turmoil that inevitably recover, meaning that while buying power might be decreasing because wages aren't growing to match inflation, net number of low-paying jobs are not increasing and in fact is staying pretty close to the same. If you're going to make such bold claims, at least have some modicum of data to back them up so you don't look so pants-on-head retarded.
bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2017/home.htm
>The percentage of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal minimum wage or less declined from 2.7 percent in 2016 to 2.3 percent in 2017
And it has been falling for a long time.

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Betting odds the US turns into Balkans kino?

Based