Hello Jow Forums, Jow Forums bro here. Economy is about to get fucked so I want to get some gats

Hello Jow Forums, Jow Forums bro here. Economy is about to get fucked so I want to get some gats.

I think I want a 9mm carbine and a 9mm pistol for home defense, under $1000 for both preferably. What do?

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Fuck off. You crypto retards don't know anything about economics.

$1000 ain’t a lot of money for 2 guns. Most of my guns cost at least $1000 just for the gun unless it’s a handgun.

Typically for any gun A good rule of thumb is double the price of the gun for my total budget. For a rifle This gets me decent optics, extra magazines, ammunition, accessories like a sling etc. For a pistol this gets me a flashlight, Extra mags, ammunition, a good concealed carry holster, etc.

B-b-but it will replace physical currency!
The cash of the future!
>crashes exponentially more frequently than any physical currency
I-it's just growing pains!

SHTF is close. Gun control, unchecked immigration, economy entering recession, dissolution of social fabric and the destruction of family unit... all signs point to a massive war.

Stay safe everyone. Hope you did all your preps already and have stocked up on food and water.

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I was told the economy was the best ever by Dear Leader and his squad at Fox.

By a Hipoint carbine- that's $300 or so. Get a Glock that fits you for around $500. That leaves you $200 left over for some ammo, earpro, eyepro, and cleaning supplies. You'll want to spend a bit more for a decent holster. Also, look up the NRA training in your area (one thing they are good at):

firearmtraining.nra.org/

If nothing else, get the pistol.

>9mm
Ah, I see you're one of those long-term thinking guys. If you want something that will last, I'd suggest either a Ruger PC carbine and SR9 combo.

If you really wanted to cheap-out, a Hi-Point C9 and 995 carbine combo. Same magazines and ammo.

shared magazines is a good idea if youre buying both. you can go beretta 92 and beretta storm carbine (if you shop around), beretta 92 and kel tec sub2000, glock and kel tec, glock and ruger pcc, of ruger pistol and ruger pcc.
hi point and hipoint is another option but i wouldnt recommend it, thats lowest budget tier.

I don't have any guns, unfortunately. But I've educated myself on problem solving and flexibility to many different situations. And I have a good network of friends with me.

Plus, I have a good collection of photos to keep my morale going.

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I think Chiappa makes an M1 Carbine in 9mm, and takes Beretta 92 mags.

Isn't hi-point cheap low quality shit though?

>shared magazines
Nice, I like the idea

I'm long on long-term bonds right now.

Take ~500$ from your 401k, and get a CZ scorpion carbine, some full size pistol (glock 19, PPQ, Beretta 92. idk. Go shoot and find what you like).

And I mean. yeah: The Chinese told their central bank to fuck with their currency and added a new layer to the trade war. And yeah, the ECB is probably going to puss out and cut rates just like Powell did. But we are looking fine. People have been screaming about yield curve inversion for almost a fucking year now. I agree that a recession's on the way, that's how it words, but this one won't be terrible.

Hi-points are perfectly fine but unless you plan on carrying a handgun regularly, just buy an AR and plenty of ammo.

get an ar
m193 5.56 has less wounding potential than 9mm jhp after it hits drywall

Fuck Jow Forums and their crypto shenanigans but OP isn't wrong. Longest expansion in US history, china tariffs, yield curve inversion, small business slowdown. Lots of signs pointing to some economic turmoil coming soon.

>Lots of signs pointing to some economic turmoil coming soon

Brexit
uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-royals/the-queen-to-be-evacuated-in-case-of-brexit-unrest-media-idUKKCN1PS005

Its the bongalypse but the qeen is being safe so it is all good, she will spawn many new larvae and make a new nest

"LONDON (Reuters) - British officials have revived Cold War emergency plans to relocate the royal family should there be riots in London if Britain suffers a disruptive departure from the European Union next month, two Sunday newspapers reported."

Now they are having that disruptive departure in October.

independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-riots-prison-food-medicine-shortage-stockpile-a9006431.html

"No-deal Brexit could trigger prison riots as food and medicine shortages grip country, leaked government document says


Leaked document warns of ‘severe consequences’ – and prompts protest that ‘no one voted for unrest in prisons, shortages of food supplies or any of the other indignities’
"

US annexation of bongland when?

>US annexation of bongland when?

That is what they are hoping for! It all makes sense now.

>small business slowdown
My shops been feeling it for fucking sure - we were booming a couple months ago (and even more so this time last year). Now we're laying off.

The porn business is in recession for a while now though user, the trade war with China may have saved the sex toy business but it came too late for young entrepreneurs like you....too late. The overcharging for flecktarn trade and social media marketing are also in recession. Its the millennial great depression

Hi-Point has very affordable 9mm pistol and pistol carbine offerings.

Extar EP9 and a budget 9mm like a G2C should only set you back $650. You can get a more expensive PCC like a Ruger or CX4 and bump that to 850. It's completely doable. You can also get an AR-15 at the same cost. Ammo sharing isn't a huge deal and the rifle chambered in a rifle round is significantly more potent.

>The porn business is in recession

Good, big cum deserves to go down.

>Economy is about to get fucked
That's just the chainlink effect
Just buy a Taurus judge. It can pump and dump via its brilliant interchangeable ammunition design and its nearly as useless as a 9mm carbine

Buy a surplus .40 caliber glock, then a ruger PC-9 or man up and grab yourself an Aero AR with a sightmark or holosun optic. Prioritize based on which you actually see yourself using. Are you doing static defense (defending your home) or a road trip? If static defense, fuck the handgun, get a decent carbine. If road trip, get a decent carbine (pistol ARs). The handgun is of limited utility if you don't have time and money to dedicate to training, but you will be able to put the dot on target with an AR. The same logic applies to a 9mm carbine, but desu there's no reason to use a pistol caliber carbine when there are plenty of 10.5 AR pistols out there with cheaper, more plentiful magazines, easier manual of arms, and more youtube sources for training.

>I don't have any guns, unfortunately
are you a felon?
get a fucking gun you dummy. even the cheapest one is better than nothing.

>big cum
not Big Boner

Why .40?

Close I do CNC

I dunno about you, but where I'm from, you can get surplus .40 glocks from PDs for $300 with 3 mags. They are "broken in", so you can have the comfort that your gun will be pre-comfied and function well.
Get a 9mm if you want, but I think that non-blue-label prices on G17s and G19s are retarded high.

Buy a $500 Glock and shoot yourself in the head for not sorting this sooner.

Get yourself a cheap Ruger or Glock, and a PSA kit. We're also approaching a grand solar minimum and crop loss is going to fucking SLAUGHTER next years food market.

Wouldn't that be offset by the price of 9mm vs .40SW after the fact?

>I dunno about you, but where I'm from, you can get surplus .40 glocks from PDs for $300 with 3 mags.
You'll pay that back double in ammo with the first case, dumbass. Those guns are cheap because nobody wants to pay the price to feed them.

GLONK AND RONI

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Based on what this guy has said, do you really think he is gonna be out training all the time? No. He wants to learn to use it and hold onto it.
Buy 90 rounds worth of hollow points for 3 magazines and you're gucci. I'm sorry if 4cpr is too much for a guy who will probably never fire more than 500 rounds.
Again, don't buy a handgun as a primary means of defense unless you are trying to travel in such a way that having a carbine would be prohibited.

FX9 and Glock
Beretta CX4 & PX4
or Hi Points if you're super cheap, they work tho

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you wanna know, user?
beretta 92FS and Cx4
both use same mag, 92FS can be had as low as 400, Cx4 can be had around ~600

You should be buying bonds at this level you stupid faggot

Vglt master race
Also BTC next target is 13.5k by thursday

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You nigger we've built up a house of cards an order of magnitude worse than 2008. It's gonna make 2008 look like a kindergartners pizza party

If you think the economy is about it to get fucked take your 1k and buy spy puts.

Retard.
Small biz is fine, it's capex from public companies slowing down.
Look at TLT

I'm a bong, looking forward to October when all our chickens come home to roost. 3 years of uncertainty combined with an overall poor economy anyway and years of conservative cuts to emergency services and society in general.

The can keeps getting kicked down the road and all we need is a shock (no deal) to bring the whole thing down and wake people up from their apathy.

2 votes for Cx4 I'll check it out.

From the comments here, maybe a handgun is unneccessary.

Not a felon. I just live in a place where being different is not allowed. But I'll have to think about this a bit. No doubt that we might face an emergency in the future, but I don't want to be imprisoned under false charges either.

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you stupid nigger, you arent gonna get two high quality guns and ammo for less than a $1000 total unless you find some crazy deal on a used gun

People who want crypto to succeed also want dictators to succeed, Iran to be able to bypass sanctions, and US leadership to erode. Crypto fans are unwittingly funding terrorism.

fuck off commie faggot

>tfw 19 year old zoomer with no savings and only realized how soon SHTF would come within the last year
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT

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Your graph is shit. The economy is doing much better than it indicates right now.

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If you want a SHTF rifle, get a .22lr with 30000 bullets.

It's not that close, civilizations fall over generations, not months

We really haven't, a recession is coming but the 08 bubble was on another level entirely

because youll "find" someone's 9mm in no time using an aero like he suggested but it's nice to have something beforehand in another somewhat popular caliber.
Make sure the aero has a good set of backup irons and Id suggest the holosun before the sightmark

It depends on the cause of the collapse
If it’s garden variety inflation/debt catching up to us we’ll probably be ok
If the rest of the oil-trading nations decide to tell the petrodollar to fuck itself we are F U C K E D

Bro, i’m 18 in Australia and i applied for my firearms license last week, have to wait ages while it gets approved, and a potential boogaloo is apparently right around the corner. Just my fucking luck.

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a super nice handgun isnt as important but having something small you can conceal is because you wont always be walking around with a rifle in your arms no matter what happens.
That being said, a rifle in your hands is many times superior to a handgun in all instances you can have it. Im in the opinion you should get an AR though.

at least we can buy silver in the meantime
praying for you ausbro

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There are over 500 million guns in America.
Im sure you'll find something you like when you need it.

So the plan in Bongland is to put the Queen in even more danger then just letting her chill at home. During a non-event.
OK maybe they really do hate the Queen.

I’ve stoked up on beans and rice, she’ll be right.
At least I don’t have to worry about niggers, only manlet chinks.

Don't forget about the 22.5 trillion dollar national debt that grows ever larger

>crashes
its overall trending value is always higher after said "crash" milking retards like you

>need guns to make guns
it applies here too

This. We cant let the Iranians and Russians win. We gotta keep supporting Israel and Saudi Arabia, no matter the cost. These same bitcoin enthusiasts(pedophiles) would also like to see American diversity eroded. This can't happen because diversity is the source of our identity as Americans. Also, remember to declare all your earnings on gun sales. Tax fraud hurts everybody.

>maybe a handgun is unneccessary.
The people telling you that are dumb fucking retards living in hope for their Mad Max fantasy to come true.

If you think society is going to suddenly disintigrate and you'll be strolling the wasteland fighting off raiders in leather chaps then sure, just get a rifle.
On the other hand, if what you're preparing for is an acute economic decline with increased crime and a government much less able to combat it, then get a fucking pistol.

A rifle (or a shotgun) is great for defending your property but unless you plan to spend your life crouched behind a window, scanning the perimeter and eating cold baked beans out of the can then you need something more portable. A good pistol (not a bulky fucking hipoint) will be what you carry on the way to work, the shops or, god forbid, the fucking bank. It's what you keep one hand on when you're waitng at a red light and the neighbourhood isn't as good as it used to be.

For $1000 I'd suggest a PSA AR15 (or a Maverick 88 shotgun, honestly either will be enough for home defense) and pistol that you can CC (a ruger, M&P or Glock if you find one at a reasonable price).

>gotta keep supporting Israel and Saudi Arabia, no matter the cost.
>American diversity eroded
>diversity is the source of our identity as Americans.
i don't think i've ever seen such a based post before

Glock 9mm and a Ruger pcc with the glock magwell so they take the same mags.

You're a dumb fuck. You're not John Wick and neither is this guy. A pistol AR is superior for literally everything except walking around town. If he is planning to defend his house from burglars or to keep something safe from him on a road trip, a carbine is better. You seem to think that he will be walking around inner city Baltimore or some shit during SHTF. This should not happen, and the $500 you will put into a solid handgun with a solid holster and solid self defense ammo with practice ammo (because pistols require much more practice than rifles) would be much better allocated to a decent carbine and optic. You are an idiot, and I hope you are trolling because you are giving this dude advice that will get him killed.

OP, you will rarely if ever need two firearms. Get one good firearm. Either buy a G17 and a fuckton of mags and ammo with a solid holster (or two) or buy a mid-tier AR with mags and a decent optic. Additionally, GET A FLASHLIGHT. There are solid options for pistols and rifles, but don't skimp on illumination, the majority of the times you'll have to shoot someone will not have good lighting.

>40 is twice as expensive as 9mm
No.

>Bong police taking away forks & spoons till this day & probably even now
Jesus, people, I hope all will end well. Just don't forget to guillotine queen in the aftermath.

Glock 17 and Ruger PC9. I'd get a PSA AR over the 9mm though.

Not the guy you replied to but you're a retard. The practicality of a rifle, even an AR-pistol, is non-existent for a plausible economic collapse unless you live isolated on a farm or in the woods.

Yes. 13cpr versus 20-23cpr for bargain bin tula.

That must be why SOF exclusively uses handguns during building clearing operations. Please tell me what you cannot do with an AR pistol that you can do with a normal handgun, other than concealed carry.

fucking same brother

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>That must be why SOF exclusively uses handguns during building clearing operations
You are so pathetic and painfully autistic

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As I thought, you're a retard who wants to re-enact John Wick scenes.

Do you seriously believe that you're going to be clearing houses and LARPing as SF in the event of a major economic downturn? Are you that delusional?

You dumb cunt, we are talking about defending a house, which takes two forms. One, you don't have anything important outside of your line of sight, so you hunker down and keep your weapon pointed at the door. Two, they are getting into your food stores in your kitchen so you either get aggressive or starve.

We're talking about everyday life in a major economic downturn. A handgun is absolutely necessary and can never be replaced by any carbine just by the fact that you can't conceal a carbine in your pocket. I'm not arguing that a handgun is better suited for defending property, what I am arguing is that a handgun is absolutely necessary, something that refuted.

That's why I said EITHER get a carbine OR get a quality pistol. That $1000 gets eaten up very quickly when you account for holster, light, mags, and ammo.
G17: I'll throw you a bone and assume you can get one for $500
X300: $200 used, maybe
Open holster: $50
CC holster: $50
SD ammo + Mags eat up the last $200.

Get a used Glock 17 and a used Kel-Tec Sub 2000 that takes Glock mags.

Alternately get a PX4 and a CX4 that use the same ammo so you can share mags.

Hi-Points are cheap, but they are perfectly functional guns. They're just ugly and unrefined.

Civilization has fallen over generations.

>That's why I said EITHER get a carbine OR get a quality pistol.
You can't replace a pistol. Are you going to carry a carbine whenever you go into town, into shops? Do you want to announce to everyone that you might have other weapons/ammunition in your home?

You don't need anything for the kick off.

Take off your pants, grab your backpack and SKS. Make it out for youself.

America's decline started in the 60s. It is much closer than you think.

>don't forget about thing that doesn't matter
You and your kind should be lobotomized you are far to excitable and endanger society with your retarded lack of education.

>The practicality of a rifle, even an AR-pistol, is non-existent for a plausible economic collapse
You obviously don't live near the hood. In the event of an economic collapse that would cause rioting and looting all over the United States. I would much rather have a fucking rifle than a pistol in that scenario. Why? It makes things deader faster and I can engage targets easily from 5-300m. There will be no going to work where I live, because leaving the house for an extended period of time without somebody keeping watch would result in all my plumbing and wiring to disappear. If otherwise, the rifle goes where I go in a duffel bag along with mags and medical.

There was an info graphic with budget home defense guns, does somebody still have it?

Do you have any weapons training at all? If not, you should get some range time with your new guns (either with some buddies who can teach you stuff or like a beginners class), because your gun is useless if you don't know how to use it
Other than what has already been said, go look at used guns at your local gun shops, gun shows and pawn stores. But don't tell them what your going to use them for or they'll try to upsell you or get you to buy some weird stuff they couldn't sell otherwise
Any maybe try to get a bigger budget you could invest in more ammo and possibly a ar-15 or similar rifle

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> the rifle goes where I go in a duffel bag along with mags and medical
But that looks fucking conspicuous and isn't very usable if your in a car or out on the street, while a handgun gives you more movement in a car and while on foot

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Who says I won't have both?

>Who says I won't have both?
You
>That's why I said EITHER get a carbine OR get a quality pistol.

>You
I am not the other poster you are referring too. I am not arguing the necessity of a pistol, I am saying that where I live I would much rather have a rifle handy. Because major economic downturn would result in LA riots because things like welfare and food stamps would be cut.

You're realistically looking at 14cpr after shipping for the cheap Russian animal-branded 9mm.

I'm ready honestly. I regret that many will suffer, but the current condition of the US isn't sustainable.

Depends, if we get a big enough recession to pop the student loan bubble it'll make the great depression look insignificant.

It's time Americans practiced economic patriotism. Yes, you might lose money and quality of life but your country will get better.