Now I know some of you want to get discouraged by Donald Trump and his view on guns but please don't get discouraged. Trump is making America great again do not listen to the fake news about gun control Trump is not for gun control he is going to make America great again and we have to take guns away from the mentally ill most of the mentally ill are part of antifa anyway so it's all part of a great plan to take out antifa who wants to take our guns anyway.
To the people who are saying that are Maga president is being bad on guns you are never a supporter and never believed in Maga to begin with.
Don't lie for kek sake about the potusa's intentions.
Fuck off. Trump banned more shit than Obama. You can pretend your New York liberal President is a conservative if you want, but leave us out of it.
Grayson Garcia
Republicans would have opposed Clinton, they have no reason to oppose Trump.
Why would they? It's his party now and they'll do whatever it takes for more tax cuts.
Cameron Wilson
Fack off nerd
Carter Mitchell
>they have no reason to oppose Trump. But they do all the time. >Trump banned more shit than Obama. No. And besides, the only reason you didn't get an AWB with no sunset provision out of Obama was he pissed away his first two years getting Obamacare passed, then lost the House in his first midterm, after which the Republicans wouldn't pass one. >Miga brother I don't hate Jews more than I love the Second Amendment, so this means nothing to me.
Adrian Morgan
>this bs again Obama's big 11th hour gun grab was so outrageous that even the ACLU called foul.
Christopher Myers
Name a single gun control act Obama enacted. In Obama's administration we saw >braces become a thing >constitutional carry expand And during Trump's Presidency we have >Red flag laws >further age restrictions on firearms >bump stock ban
Noah James
>my first shill bingo of the night Thanks m8 I haven't been seeing that one lately
Lucas Martinez
Where have they opposed him except on nominations?
Aaron Thompson
>you never believed in maga to begin with Of course I didn’t, because I have enough brain to not trust the baby boomer New Yorker rich guy with a single goddamn thing. He may have been more preferable than Hillary if only because there is not a single positive thing about her whereas at least Trump is sort of humorous, the Republicans have been more than willing to completely fall for him and whatever nonsense he says for shit like tax cuts and getting into high positions by stroking his ego. Time and time again he has made it pretty clear in eliminating due process and just taking away the guns, which is something that would have resulted in nonstop flaming had Obama or Hillary been in. >inb4 MUH OPTICS >inb4 MUH 37D INTERGALACTIC MAHJONG
Owen Hall
>Where have they opposed him except on nominations? LOL were you literally fucking paying attention at all during the first two years of his administration? They cockblocked him on everything from the Wall to the Obamacare repeal.
Matthew Smith
braces were independent, so were state carry laws, there are no federal red flag laws, there are no federal age restrictions, show me a single bump stock seizure case. The only reason Obabo didn't do a AWB 2.0 is because he was such a fuckup that the Republicans regained all legislative superiority.
Chase Miller
>Name a single gun control act Obama enacted Name a single gun control act that Trump enacted >braces become a thing ATF decision, not Obama >constitutional carry expand States made those decisions, the only thing Obama did was not intentionally block a bill to allow carry in national parks. >Red flag laws Again, state enacted and multiple states had red flag laws well before Trump even ran >further age restrictions on firearms State enacted >bump stock ban Admittedly encouraged by Trump, but not enacted by him. Another administrative decision by the ATF just like with the illegality followed by legality of braces followed by illegality of AOWs made via folding braces just like the banning of the Akins Accelerator just like a million other ATF bullshit decisions that were not signed or drafted by the presidents at the time.
>Name a single gun control act Obama enacted. 15 seconds with Google, my dude: ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/summary-president-obama-gun-proposals.aspx >braces become a thing And you couldn't shoulder them until Trump became President, or did you think we'd forgotten that? >constitutional carry expand Those are state laws, over which the President has no control. >And during Trump's Presidency we have >Red flag laws Again, state laws. >further age restrictions on firearms State laws. >bump stock ban I'll give you that - he banned one mall ninja accessory that literally nobody had ever heard of before the Las Vegas shooting.
Jayden Cox
> Republican Party opposing Trump
You don’t oppose the donkey pulling your cart
Cooper Campbell
Right, and?
So we have Obama who failed to do anything to harm us, and Trump who could have told the left to kiss his ass as he does regularly, bending over to betray us for them. Trump is a traitor, I don't care that you want to suck his dick. Do it in private and do not bring that traitors name up to me. So what I see is Trump failing to do anything about gun control, demonstrating that he is ultimately not just an ineffective leader, but a liar, a charlatan, and an antigun-liberal who has done more to sell us out by betrayal, than the left ever could by directly opposing us.
Xavier Miller
fuck off back to Jow Forums
Dominic Miller
Kaslainikov concern ban Ban on 7n6 Ban on barrels used as parts kits Ban on milsurp guns being sold to civilians
>So what I see is Trump failing to do anything about gun control Yes, that's exactly what we want. The idea that ANY president was going to repeal the NFA so you could buy suppressors and full autos at Bass Pro was a fantasy that was never ever ever ever ever ever going to happen. Literally the best we can realistically hope for on a federal level is someone who simply won't do anything about gun control either way - they won't make it better, and they won't make it worse. If we get through eight years like that, we'll have done super well for ourselves. >You don’t oppose the donkey pulling your cart But they did. See
Joshua Watson
Someone please post the listen here cuck meme with the fat redneck
Liam Powell
Satan pls stop believing your own lies
Bentley Diaz
What? Hillary would of course be worse, but the ATF pretzeled the rules to ban bump stocks because the President, their boss, told them to.
Michael Martinez
Anyone who thinks that a Hillary administration that would have gotten two judges on the Supreme Court wouldn't have been a complete fucking disaster for gun rights is: 1) Too young to remember the 90s, with a federal AWB in place and an ATF that really *would* shoot your dog (and your wife, too). 2) Stupid 3) Both Either way, go be young and stupid somewhere else. Under Trump, one mall ninja accessory got banned. Under Hillary, it would have been California rules, nationwide, forever. If you don't think so, you're a fucking idiot.
James Hernandez
When did I dispute that? I'm saying he has never actually enacted any real gun control. He encouraged the ATF to do (more of the same) fuckery, which I'm not making excuses for, but objectively he's not been worse than Obama. That's the point I was making.
Jaxson Mitchell
>proposals Nigger I asked for what he actually DID, not what he tried to do. I understand that Obama was an antigun liberal sack of shit. My concern lies in the fact that Trump does not need to do a single thing against guns, and willingly chooses to do so, and refuses to oppose gun control of any form. >Literally the best we can realistically hope for on a federal level is someone who simply won't do anything about gun control either way Defeatism is the weapon of tyrants, fuck off. You might just be the smartest one in the thread. >kalashnikov concern ban Fair >7n6 Not quite a new ban, it just met the terms needed to classified as armor piercing after some jackass started selling pistols chambered for it. Still terrible. >Ban on barrels used as parts kits That happened years before Obama became President. Moron. >Ban on milsurp guns being sold to civilians Does not exist The only lies being believed here are the ones you believe out of Trump's gun-grabber mouth. An effective traitor is worse than an ineffective enemy.
Eli Thomas
Rick perry wouldve repealed the NFA
Thomas Harris
/thread Trump cucks see nothing wrong with anything he says or does, including "Due Process Second", "Raise the age to 21", turning a piece of plastic even the ATF said was fine, into a prison sentence, and (((enhanced))) background checks.
This makes him more dangerous than a democrat due to sheer ignorance of his gun grabbing nature simply because of the (R) next to his name. I'm voting Biden or Sanders. Enjoy the acceleration, faggots.
Kayden Sullivan
>effective traitor Trump pulling a single bullshit move on bumpstocks does not make him a traitor, you fucking drama queen. And regardless, we're not talking about an "ineffective enemy" because Obama certainly did damage the firearms community, as would any other Democrat elected. Wholesale banning of Russian importations is far more consequential than the ineffective banning of a single accessory.
Isaiah Williams
you're not wrong but Trump was supposed to be the president who wouldn't pander to people who wouldn't vote for him anyways
I'm going to wait and see but if red flag laws pass I'm staying home on election day.
Jose Baker
>Wholesale banning of Russian importations is far more consequential than the ineffective banning of a single accessory. I would put more stock in this if it were a more targeted ban, such as the one on Norinco. However, the Russian bans were quite frankly warranted and part of well earned sanctions against Russia. It's not like they just said "Russian guns are banned because guns are bad" they said "holy fuck how many times do we have to tell you to quit invading every neighboring nation, we're crashing your economy now fuckers"
Caleb Bell
>Defeatism is the weapon of tyrants, fuck off. Realism is the weapon of non-LARPers. Look, I liked Ron Paul too, but he never became President, and nobody with his views ever will. Trump is the closest we're going to get. > Trump cucks see nothing wrong with anything he says or does, including "Due Process Second" Hasn't happened at the federal level. >"Raise the age to 21", Hasn't happened at the federal level. >turning a piece of plastic even the ATF said was fine, into a prison sentence, Name one person who's gotten a federal prison sentence just for having a bumpstock. >and (((enhanced))) background checks. Hasn't happened at the federal level.
Henry Sullivan
It's almost as if the head executive isn't a legislator. Really makes you think.
Michael Morris
>Nigger I asked for what he actually DID He actually implemented most of this and more through executive order. He issued 23 gun control XOs in a single day. Trump isn't great, but the suggestion that he's worse than Obama is a leftard meme.
Dylan Allen
If you think he has no pull, you're wrong. >Realism is the weapon of non-LARPers And realism says I care about one solitary issue: Guns. I don't give a fuck about fags, Mexicans, dugs, God, China, or anything else.
Jaxon Butler
>Guns. I don't give a fuck about fags, Mexicans, dugs, God, China, or anything else. (He really thinks that demographics isn't something that deeply affects gun laws.)
Wow you're stupid.
William Carter
>implying any President or party is capable of demographic shifts in my favor Deport all the spics they want, the ones that are here will still keep having more kids than white people. I think the Us VS Them aspect to US politics just pushes more of them to support leftists positions that don't even benefit them, just cause it's what they're supposed to do. Same as poor white Republican trailer trash will vote for a New York liberal billionaire pretending to be a Conservative.
I understand Trump is a politician and it's his job to lie. I don't understand why anyone would worship him for it.
>Someone please post the listen here cuck meme with the fat redneck Sometimes I wonder if that fat redneck porn Star knows he became a meme and how many anons even know he was a porn Star in the first place.
Cameron Jackson
Just to remind you if Hillary Clinton was president the right would be United against any gun legislation she tried to push. Not the complacency and tolerance of statements like "take the guns first, due process later" and actions like executive order accessory bans.