Extremely secure when closed and opening it is very fast and completely silent

>Extremely secure when closed and opening it is very fast and completely silent
Why didn't this style of magazine flap ever become more popular? Far as I know almost no one used it outside of Germany (which did make a modified version for G3's later on) and most countries just defaulted to buttons or awkward peg and loops, you'd think more Eastern Bloc countries would have liked and used it for their own LBE's.

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The US used it for the entire Vietnam war

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Canada used a very similar retention system on the 82 pattern webgear

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Neat, I thought US used the two prong pouches during Vietnam, guess those were a later design then.

I'll give you two prongs, straight up the ass!

China used it too

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the two prong clasp was introduced with the M67 pattern in 1967 but never saw widespread use. The two prong clasp was also used with the ALICE system.

Slot and bail/Spanish fly/whatever it’s called is truly masterrace, the various Warsaw Pact pouches just need a pull tab on the retention flap like Use for ease of opening. The only downside is it doesn’t reseal like Velcro does so you need either a figid and/or heavy lid to retain the contents of pouches that hold more than one mag unless you plan on pausing and using your fine motor skills in the middle of a firefight to seal them up again. Those Chinese type 83 rigs are perfect for 20rnd ak and mini 14 mags, btw

I absolutely love these little pouches and always keep an eye out for them at pawnshops/flea markets/surplus stores.

The Swiss military uses a similar pattern for their webbing model 1990. Worked with it extensively and it's a freaking nightmare under stressful situations. Easy enough to open, but shit to close back up especially if you have pouches made of soft materials without a rigid structure. Couple this with gloved hands in the winter and you have a recipe for some shit gear. This leads to losing mags, flares, grenades and all sorts of shit especially when working in the dark without the possibility of visual confirmation. Had a guy in a buddy's squad lose three full magazines and a flashbang in the same night exercise because both his side pouches didn't close properly and he couldn't see it; the poor fuck had to check the entire field for a couple of hours (1-3am) in order to find the bloody things.
Snaps and velcro aren't silent, but they are just as secure (velcro especially) and easier to use without involving high dexterity movements under stress. It would also benefit the whole thing to have individual mag pouches so that you don't have to close the damn thing up every time you do a mag change, which is exactly what we're switching to as I speak.

TL; Dr, it's a very workable system if certain conditions are observed. Works fine if you don't have to close it back up under stress with freezing fingers.

i think the russians use it currently
also finland uses a somewhat similar system

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So it's only good in theory, but in actual practice it's pretty shitty. Good to know, thanks for the info user.

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Poland used it on field Bags

The Dutch used it

honest to god if you care about how "loud" your magazine pouch is you are fucking retarded

chances are if you are reloading, rounds are already going off

M05 vest was complete and utter garbage but indestructible, pouches are good.
I am using mag pouch for water bottle in my work.

the only problem i had with the M05 vest was that it was too long, as in it got in the way of my legs somewhat and there was no way to adjust that, i'm 180cm tall hungry hungry skeleton and the west was the smallest model
other than that it was pretty ok desu
but yeah the pouches were pretty good but imho the clasp mechanism wasn't all that good because the small locking "spikes" or whatever broke off pretty easily

more fiddling with straps and buckles = more fucking up.

Only thing it needs is good adjustment but apparently that was impossible task for designers.
I used belt with it to make it even somewhat wearable.

>clasp mechanism wasn't all that good because the small locking "spikes" or whatever broke off pretty easily
I disagree, I never met anyone who managed to break them
Pulling straight up was incorrect way to open those, best way was to pull little bit away from body.

What is the name of that?
I recognize that it is East German socialist, a pouch of some kind? For mags?

All I know is that that camo is strichtarn

really?
while i didn't see anyone break one first hand almost everyone had at least one pocket on which the clasp was broken
>best way was to pull little bit away from body
i was instructed to pull it to the side

East German four cell mag pouch in strichtarn

Literally still in use by the Bundeswehr.

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