UK seeks ‘flexible’ approach to Tempest fighter aircraft partnerships The UK MoD is still looking for other states to join the effort but does not want partnerships only for the sake of work-sharing, Bollom told Jane's on 8 August. "My aspiration for this, in the first instance, is rather than setting up a project with fairly rigid workshare arrangements, that we get together in a collaborative way; we look at what each of the partners can bring to the project, and we set the project and the air system up on the basis of the best technology fit."
UK desperately looking for partners for Tempest. With still no partner nation joined Tempest.
Not really. I also can't see how Japan is actually interested in that clusterfuck called Tempest.
Liam Gray
Tempest is fucking dead. ps: and to butthurt britbongs, don't shit on the streets.
Nathan Jones
Russian fear: the thread.
Shill harder, bitches.
Gabriel Lewis
That sounds pretty much like a non-statement.
A small partner will always get a small workshare based on the competency and money it will provide.
It's delusional to think that a nation like Japan for example would pay 50% of the budget but only receive like 20% of the actual workshare.
Tyler Bailey
Huh I thought this was a bong and italian collab?
Samuel Adams
>With still no partner nation joined Tempest. The article contradicts your non-truth bait.
>In July, UK Defence Secretary Penny Mordaunt and Swedish counterpart Peter Hultqvist signed a memorandum of understanding that "commits both governments to work on a joint combat air development and acquisition programme, including the development of new concepts to meet both nations' future requirements", according to the UK MoD. The agreement was possible due to "common ground identified based on similar future Combat Air requirements, including being optimised for air defence", it added.
Jaxon Cooper
Japan is working on their own 6th generation fighter. Why the fuck would they sign up for Tempest
Tyler Young
Tempest project is dead.
Ethan White
He is right though.
Liam Jones
It's another European joint development
>Announce new project will be the most bestest ever >Partner up with other europoors because lol no money to develop on your own >Spend decades coming up with half baked prototype >Other countries leave >Deliver first production model 12 years later
Rinse and repeat
Kayden Lee
FCAS is likely to turn out some form of product, simple because Germany doesn't want to partner with Britain anymore, and the French can't afford to develop something on their own this time around.
Zachary Kelly
>French can't afford to develop something on their own You mean BAE
William Parker
Looking at the list of "potential" partners.
That thing must be ITAR free. Otherwise why would nations like Turkey or India seriously consider Tempest.
Dylan Mitchell
Because military projects routinely are developed by 3-4 US states together, right? Your average European country is much much smaller than the US, it only makes sense to develop stuff together
Charles Phillips
Because there is the British delusion that all those European developements "failed" because based UK was forced to work with other nations. Ignoring that the purely British projects like their naval ships have seen way worse cost overruns and delays in combination with capabilities reduction. Or just went nowhere like that Challenger mid life upgrade.
Ryder James
I'm aware that the airframe design doesn't exist. But couldn't they render something better looking? That CG concept is so fucking ugly, holy shit.
From being pioneers of the gas turbine (steam and fuel) to having to beg for money to create new fighter jet...how the mighty have fallen.
Rudolph Hess tried to warn them but they didn't listened.
Hunter Gomez
Dassault can't afford it either. A new ground-up carrier-capable plane is more expensive to develop nowadays compared to the Rafale in the late '80s.
Evan Anderson
Blame Thatcher.
At the end of the industrial age. Thatcher used the opurtunity to destroy the working class, while France and Germany transitioned to a post-industrial state with maintaining as much industry as possible.
Thomas Cox
You can destroy the working class without blowing the fuck up out of your industrial base. And she didn't just obliterate the heavy industry. Britain had a very strong electronics/computer industry prior to her taking an axe to everything that wasn't banking.
Zachary Kelly
They will actually just deny it that anything went wrong with them. In fact I habe seen using the Type 45 as example of good British engineering.
David Robinson
>Dassault can't afford it either. A new ground-up carrier-capable plane is more expensive to develop nowadays compared to the Rafale in the late '80s. >implying rafale hasn't been more successful in fighter sales than euroshitter and upgraded up-to-date Oh right, bongs are subhumans
Juan Stewart
>Thatcher used the opurtunity to destroy the working class
Go back to whatever socialist shithole board you came from.
She didn't destroy the working class. The British working class destroyed by decades of socialist governments that had left British industry uncompetitive and inefficient. She just took them off life support so that people could be more productive elsewhere.
Anthony Flores
>She didn't destroy the working class.
She was in a fucking war with the unions. And after she won, all those once proud Biritsh companies died one by one.
Gavin Perez
Not only that, but also very importantly have virtually all western countries (except the US) pretty massively cut down their defence spending compared to the cold war era.
Sounds a lot like russian projects, except for the "other countries" bit.
Jose Ward
Military spending as % of GDP is not a very useful metric since most economies have grown considerably in the last 20 years, while military budgets have largely remained static post-1989. The US military budget as % of GDP has dropped to almost a third. Used to be around 9% in the late '60s, it's now just a bit over 3%.
Daniel Adams
But UK knows better
Leo Sanders
kek
Juan Sullivan
>But UK knows better >meanwhile their entire technology would be rusting without outside investors You need concede to a certain extent, otherwise you'll go bankrupt in no time.
Tyler Roberts
I actually like how the Bongs claim that it was always Germany, France or whatever who pullsed bullshit.
But we are in a timeline where no one wants to do something with the UK
UKGov literally ghosted the French last year, when they tried to contact MoD regarding continuing joint development on the new combat drone.
William Mitchell
hahaha
Thomas Clark
I know this thing is early in the developmental phase, but if they keep up throwing retarded buzzwords like this I'm gonna have a fucking explosive diarrhea. A faceful of vomit and piss would have more meaning than whatever fancy words their underpaid interns choose.
Adam Scott
Tempest actually feels like some weird scam to get some funding for Eurofighter upgrades.
Ethan Long
I could buy it, honestly. Like they'd have a cargo cult-y team cooking up mockups and sick CG trailers while the other would be going 'but how do we put this money into the Typhoon?'