What if, instead of bombing whole cities and killing millions of civilians they just obliterated enemy airfields...

What about the enemy army then? You need to bomb the barracks and bases. And munitions dumps, fuel dumps. And maybe the factories that makes their weapons and maybe the workers that work those factories too.

"enemies"

They weren't our enemies, man. They tried to save us.

>Was the bombing of Dresden relevant and justified
Absolutely.

>They tried to save us
Not sure how aggressive territorial expansion and war with pretty much every neighbor they had was going to be helpful for anyone.

i love the smell of burnt sauerkraut in the morning

Everything Hitler claimed prior to Britain declaring war on him had been German territory prior to Versailles. But they don't teach that in high school, do they?

user what do you think you're supposed to do with air superiority. Print out a certificate and hang it on the wall?

When did Germany have Bohemia and Moravia?

Fuck the civilians and fuck you. Literally and figuratively

theguardian.com/books/2002/may/01/news.features11

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The railway at Dresden was still largely intact and functional before the attack.

>raping and murdering civilians is ok because they're "nahtzees".

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

The pussy isn't Nazis. The pussy is pussy. If you win the war, you gain the rewards of conquest.

Has been this way for millions of years and it won't change because it hurts your feelings.

Throat the civilians. Kill the males.

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Animals like you deserve a bullet.

Spoken like true cannon fodder

Please stop.

Why do germans turn into such faggots the second they start losing? They invent mustard gas, and that's fine, but then the M97 is too brutal and inhumane. They bomb they shit out of london, but Dresden is an unforgivable war crime. Maybe germans should quit starting shit, if they don' want to get hit.

WW2 airplanes can take off from grass fields. As can STOL and VTOL aircraft

they did both

I blame the Austrians

>When did Germany have Bohemia and Moravia?

bad example

they were never "officially" but heavy Germanic influence in those territories has existed since before Christ was born. read a book my dude.

Yes. Do not be so naive thinking the flames of war won't travel back to your cities, your people.

They were never formally part of Germany and apart from a few border regions, they don't even speak German. Never mind the fact that the idea of a unified German ethnicity is laughable.

Hitler got gassed and taken out of commission by it during WW1 and didn't want to do it to others. Besides, the allied nations had gas too. They didn't use it because Hitler didn't. Dresden was sick, but Hitler also bombed London.

First Reich

Yes. Because dehousing the German workforce and redirecting resources from war production to rebuilding helps win the war.

Also

>The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.

the luftwaffe was already obliterated in january 44

>What if, instead of bombing whole cities and killing millions of civilians
civilians that voted for hilter.
the only good kraut is a dead kraut
you thought you were a big man killing women and children
but when we turn around and fuck you with your own medicine you cry like the little faggot you are.
just like every bully in history

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airfields had 88s, 37s and 20mm. civilian targets had much less AA.

this implies that the allies never bombed airfields and that civilian targets were considered in a vacuum

airfields were a top priority for the allies, and ME262s were primarily targeted on take off or landing
and the luftwaffes airfields were perpetually turned into moonscapes, forcing them to hide their airplanes in dense forest when not in use

as for civilians, their primary target was the industrial centers like factories or logistical centers like roads and railways
the workers tended to live around or near these places, so casualties were a grim but necessary inevitability
and given the horrendous accuracy of primitive WW2 bombsights, several tons were needed to ensure just 1 or 2 direct hits on a target, the rest would be dispersed in the surrounding neigborhood, precision bombing was only a relative term, they often had little choice but to cause civilian harm to hit a target

I would expect them to use highways as runways after that.

>they don't even speak German

German was the dominant language in that part of Europe for two thousand years

>Czecheslovakia

>petty revenge
>morally justified
you realize how incredibly silly it is to say "it's okay because the Nazis did it", right? Wasn't that the whole point of opposing the Nazis? We didn't like the things they did?
>Interment camps are okay when we do it
>Experiments on civilians are okay when we do them
>Firebombing cities is okay when we do it

What the fuck ever, brits bombed German cities for weeks before Hitler approved massed bombing of British cities. Hitler and the high command did not even want to want to waste limited luffwafe resources on urban areas but they were forced to by that satanist half savage Churchill. If hitler had not taken the bait there would have been a good chance the RAF and royal navy would've left southern england or risk being wiped out.

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If you think WW2 was about anything besides realpolitik, you are naive.

Vae victis

So what? They weren't speaking it Bohemia as a first language apart from the Sudetes.

DO IT AGAIN

I don't but people like to get super morally righteous about WW2 when it was a human rights shitshow by all involved

Because amerimutts and brits and mindless slaves to the Jews. They fought to destroy the man who tried to save the world from the Hebrew menace forever. Now their countries are cucked shitholes full of shitskins and trannies lol.

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People also tend to conveniently forget Dresden was a legit target as its train lines, roads, manpower and warehouses are a major part of the remaining logistics supply for the Germans.

Warsaw, Guernica, Rotterdam, krauts bombed civilians from the very beginning of the war, before brits even got involved.
It just turned out that allies were way better at the game krauts wanted to play.

So?

Poles were killing Germans in east Prussia. Hitler told them to cut it out and they refused, so we took action. If you took shlomos dick out of your mouth for once and study actual history you could likely get it through your thick mutt skull.

Correct, it was just the language of the government and all of the elites for two thousand years. No big deal.

>this is what naziboos believe

This. Even if the Nazis weren't easy to hate genocidal maniacs, a unified continental Europe under German control ran counter to the interests of the USSR (obviously), Britain, and to a lesser extent, the US. Meanwhile, even if you pretend Pearl Harbor and the Philippines never happened, Japan's ambitions in the Pacific were inevitably going to come into conflict with America's. It was really for the better that the US got into the war with Japan when they did.

Good goy. Go sacrifice your son for Israel.

Women and children cant operate aa guns

They'd been Bohemian's since what, the 700's? They've got a far more relevant claim.

Back then, people thought strategic bombing meant bombing anything man-made in enemy territory. Turns out that's not how it works. I think we can all agree and look back and laugh at our mistakes.

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>Poles were killing Germans in east Prussia.
You really are delusional, arent you? Next thing you'll tell me that it was poles who raided gleiwitz radio station.

must be why they targeted specific places

easternct.edu/germinaveris/treatment-of-germans-in-post-war-poland-and-czechoslovakia/
Muttard

ah yes, the "everyone who calls me on the bullshit i spew must be jewish lackey " defence.
You act like one of the leftist strawman caricatures rather than real person.

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Didn’t need to dox yourself mutt. Enjoy getting fired!

>easternct.edu/germinaveris/treatment-of-germans-in-post-war-poland-and-czechoslovakia/
>post war

You fucking clown.

>this is your brain on jewish propaganda

>>(((The jews)))
^^^This^^^

>Didn’t need to dox yourself mutt. Enjoy getting fired!
Take your pills schizo

>this entire thread
>people falseflagging as nazi sympathizers and EBIL NAZIS DESERVED DRESDEN

Don't forget to report these threads.

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jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm

They were after ball bearing factories, steel mills etc. No more panzer for you Jerry.

>jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm

That is literally Nazi propaganda. The Prussians had been shitting on the Poles since before Bismark, they particularly wanted to destroy Catholic schools and replace them with state ones. All the better to make state slaves.

Skimming through the entries, all of these are retaliation attacks against Germans after the invasion. Though I doubt they're credible.

im very mad no one acknowledged these digits

based

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>Was the bombing of Dresden relevant and justified
Absolutely. It was a legal action in 1945, it would still be legal today under the proportionality doctrine.

>be germanic for two millenia
>suddenly in the 8th century people start using a word that was coined by the romans 1,000 years before
>"they're not germanic! not at all!"

not a very convincing narrative I have to say

>Wehrboo: "Did you have to fuck us so hard?"

Yes.

Its been western slavic since the about the 7th century.

They speak a slav language but you are probably a complete idiot who bases everything you think you know about history and culture on "phenotypes".

>Bomb Dresden

>End up killing hundreds of thousands of Jews and other POWs

>Blame the Nazis for their deaths

It was brilliant.

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Only about 25k died though

I'm sure you did a reliable body count in the immediate aftermath

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It was the civil service estimate.

Yeah, I bet he doesn’t even get his facts from a historian who lives in a trailer on his “compound” like we do brother.

According to Duke Joe Billybob 8 million peaceful Christian babies burned to death in the Dresden bombings and that’s the only history I ever need.

-Cletus Bob III
——White makes right——-
~~~~~~1488~~~~~~~
(((((((((Hitler was right))))))))

Yeah it's all nice and wise. But in the grim reality if world waagh airfoces targeted civilian objects as well as military installations. If Americans didn't nuke Japan in 1945, they would fare as well with igniting bombs. They burned a hell lot of cities before Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Returning to the point. Allies tried to bomb Schweinfurt, where all Nazi bearing plants were located. If they were to succeed, all German machine manufacturing processes would stall. But in reality they could rip through AAA grid and bomb Schweinfurt only once. And the result of that raid was minor damage, so Allies switched to easier targets.

Yeah Dresden was a stupid name for a town and had it coming.

back to Jow Forums

>1940-1945 bomb London in blitz and v-weapons till end
>Oh you fucks just wait.
>Take this you Dresden bitches...
>Not fair!

No. It was a vengeful dick waving contest for bomber command, they ignored most of the industrial capacity of the city that was in the suburbs and vouched for the city center packed with refugees and POWs as well as the train yards which were almost entirely devoted to slowing down the Russians (which ironically was more in our favour).

We killed a shit load of civilians just to help the fucking Russians basically and "send a point". Anyone with the slightest bit of foresight could actually see that anything to dely the Russians with outright attacking them was more in our interest. Don't even need a wehraboo perspective to see its stupidity and unneccesery cruelty

>Cruelty
Did pretty good on breaking their spirit and will to fight even more.

Soviets, you mean. Socialists don't operate races and nations. Don't mix the Red threat of he past, and Russian "threat" of today.
t.Russian

Their aim was to destroy railyards and communication, it was part of a nationwide plan to breakdown the German economy. It wasn't just to help the Soviets, it was SOP. There were raids that really had dubious military value, this wasn't one of them

Targeting industry is perfectly valid. Especially when, you know, it's all out fucking war. It's not like Germans were saints in this regard either.

yeah sorry didnt mean to come across anti-Russian, heck there were many impressive and admirable feats achieved by the Soviet forces (and even the Nazis) its just unfourtanate they were both fighting for such aprehensible ideologies.

>Did pretty good on breaking their spirit and will to fight even more
The Germans fought till they only had kids and old men left in tattered uniforms. I think its pretty well accepted now that bombing into submition an enemy population atleast from a psychological perspective actually has the opposite effect. (the Blitz insiting Britih resolve is another good example of this.)

m8 if you had any idea of the state of the Reichs railways and communications by that point in the war, you'd know full well that whatever limited production and transport capability a far eastern German city had at that point in the war, it sure as shit wasn't making itself in any direct to the west. ie. it would almost be fully fledged to fight the Soviets and contribute little if any against western allied efforts.

Even if they for some bizzare reason wanted to direct men and material westwards from Dresden, they physically couldnt, atleast not in any appreciable quantity.

the primary purpose of incendiary raids against tokyo was because japanese industry was crude and decentralized and precision raids were ineffectual, so area bombing to sweep an entire area of any thing that could be used for industry and to cripple its working population was considered justified

it was one of the deadliest air raids in history, but its rooted in a cold logic to target industry effectively rather than simply waking up one day and deciding that tokyo was a nice place to bomb

same goes for hits on germany
their target was always, at least nominally, industrial centers which happened to be located in civilian centers
poor accuracy meant such precision raids looked indistinguishable from terror bombing, but thats a limitation of the technology of the time not because they decided civilians were a good target for bombs

Well dunno about decentralised industry in Japan. In the end US bombers put a burning cross of smoldering buildings in the center of the cities and the rest of air fleet used it as target designation. Considering Japanes built their anti-earthquake straw huts of timber and paper, the whole cities burned down.
On the other end, Hiroshima and Nagasaki held large shipbuilding facilities and Japan Navall Brass, so they were targeted as naval bases, not civilian towns.
Total war as it was.

>m8 if you had any idea of the state of the Reichs railways and communications by that point in the war

I do, it was that way because they were hitting transportation and communication hubs. They weren't just trying to hit targets just near them, they wanted to cause a complete breakdown, which they achieved.