What in the Jow Forumsube's name is the VA's major malfunction?
What in the Jow Forumsube's name is the VA's major malfunction?
What in the Jow Forumsube's name is the VA's major malfunction?
Government run healthcare, everbodys wet dream as of late.
Never served in ZOG's armed forces, so I don't know anything about it myself. Are there any former ZOGbots here who can tell us whether the VA is as full of incompetent shitskin "nurses" as the average old folks' home?
Private hospitals aren't having much luck either with the recent batches of staph infections. Hospitals in general can just kind of be gross.
The general practitioner they assigned me is an insane old German with a mad scientist accent. He constantly mutters to himself and orders CT scans for every complaint.
Something like 100,000 people a year die from medical malpractice.
muh scary salt guns tho
Does he have birds in the OR?
I hope to never see a VA OR.
staph is ubiquitous in hospitals.
in private hospitals you don't have insane negligent shit like leaving a patient dead in the shower. It's crazy that this would ever happen on the hospital floor, patients only die in acute care, OR, or in codes.
I'm not American myself, but from the horror tales I've read here, I get the impression that there is literally zero governmental oversight on these VA run hospitals.
Remember every enlisted genius who bragged to you about their disability.
And laugh at them
disability is the biggest scam in the military though I have met literally dozens of fags claiming 100 percent disability from the mil somehow and they are working construction of some shit doing just fine. total bullshit
They throw painkillers at us to any little thing at the one I used to go to, I’ve completely weaned myself off the governments teat. I even stopped using my GI bill, only used a semesters worth before concluding that college=big gay and started welding instead. Is the old guys and no shit combat veterans that have been getting fucked over the most, say what you will about the ZOG shit but these guys didn’t know that and most still don’t know how they’ve been duped. I want payback for them and all of us should in the overall struggle against the ZOG.
Back to leftypol retard
Discourage whites from the military so it will be 100% shitskins so a Democrat president can use them to wipe out whitey
Can't expect forethought from the people whose 1000 year reich lasted less than 2 decades.
they brag because they're not that broken, retard.
idk any genuinely disabled dudes who brag about it. i've known plenty of guys who were sure to shoot for 100% as they got out and then bragged when they got it
Wanting whites to join the Israeli Foreign Legion
It's what happens when the government runs something. Personally I can't wait until the Dems get back into power and finally push this shit through on everybody. Then the whole country can experience what it's liked to have Uncle Sam fuck you in the ass while you're dying of cancer.
Not killing sand niggers while getting freebees
Okay /sandnigger/ general. Go cry some more about Brenant Tarant.
Have you ever served in the military? The Army, Navy, and Marines are already almost 100% shitskins. The Navy's ships run on Flips, the Army is basically a nigger's secondary source of gibz, and every spic from San Diego is currently in the Marine Corps, and they even brought their gangs with them. The military is a Fifth Column in this country already, it has been since the 90s.
As a disability attorney, I can assure you that having a mad scientist experimenting on you is the very best care you could hope for at the VA.
Just be glad you didn't get one of the awful Indian doctors who never order tests at all, even when the patient is obviously on the verge of death.
Try four times that.
quality gubment healthcare
The military is primarily recruited from Democrat strongholds like California, New York, and Chicago. It's filled with shitskins and women who are not at all combat effective.
The military is a Fifth Column
Is it really even worth calling them a fifth column if you no longer even have the first four columns to begin with?
The Army, Navy, and Marines are already almost 100% shitskins.
They'd just make excuses for it. Obamacare was a huge fuck up but they still defend it to the death.
I was being hyperbolic, but yeah, 30-40% is perfectly reasonable. And climbing every year by the way, just like our demographics as a whole. This country will be completely controlled by the Democrats and non-white foreigners within 30 years, enjoy the twilight era while you can.
so autistic he doesn't understand hyperbole
thinks brownies have that large of a plurality in the armed forces isn't concerning
Staph is a problem basically anywhere that contains sick people and/or old people and uses ultra high strength disinfectants and antibiotics.
An ant infestation is something a garden variety exterminator can solve for a few hundred bucks.
One is a hazard that comes with the territory, the other is a gross hell that they should have fixed
Back to trannycord
As he lay dying, getting eaten by ants, he probably thought "at least I k-kept Israel safe".
Bro just let the gobernment pay for your healthcare
When Obamacare passed I lost my fucking healthcare and still don't have any
Don't forget the newest development in the Obamacare saga.
They changed my plan to a high deductible plan that's so high as to be useless unless I'm seriously maimed or get cancer but my premiums stayed the same
the retards attacking medical payment reform as if the government will literally shanghai every health service worker in the country and quality will go to shit overnight
Good goy, never question the american healthcare system
I like the idea of the government paying for healthcare, I WANT to be able to support it but everything's so fucked and corrupt that it's impossible for them to not fuck it sideways.
I'd love if these psychopaths could work on lowering costs of fucking living instead of turning us into slaves.
the government seizing all rights to your bodily care is for your own good silly goy!
why would you want another option besides daddy gubmint, youre too poor to afford real healthcare aren't you loser?
insurance is god, your healthcare exists only so far as your doctor is in our network, yes those tylenol cost 500 dollars, yes your medication just increased in price by 5000% my family needs food to eat
Imagine being the sort of subhuman retard who defends the current racket and tries to frame his slavery as freedom
I'd love if these psychopaths could work on lowering costs of fucking living
They don't want to keep costs low nor do the massive healthcare giants that pay their campaign costs, because otherwise they'd be talking about price capping. They occasionally mention Japan when extolling the virtues of nationalized healthcare, which is ironic because Japan's hybrid private/public system is relatively close to the US system, with the major difference being that Japan practices aggressive price capping. Now the extent they go to would almost certainly be too overzealous for the US but letting hospitals play financial shell games by essentially forcing insurance companies and regular consumes to haggle on the costs for literally everything is patently absurd. Universal Medicare is just giving them a big handout to keep charging 500 dollars for disposable bedpans and 2500 dollars for an MRI when the actual costs are probably a tenth of that while the government impotently "negotiates" costs that still end up having 1000% percent profit margins on it. They estimate universal healthcare in the US would cost around 3 trillion dollars a year or the equivalent of the entire federal budget. Anyone who says they can pay for that with anything less than a catastrophically large increase in taxes is patently full of shit.
Imagine thinking that just because I don't want the government to have total control over my body means I like the current system. Eat a bullet, perpetual-adolescent state-worshiping faggot.
Yeah I know it's unrealistic and I'm going to be a slave until I die but I can dream.
You are promoting literal slavery (forcing all health workers to work at the governments whim) and you are claiming that freedom is slavery.
They estimate universal healthcare in the US would cost around 3 trillion dollars a year or the equivalent of the entire federal budget.
How much do americans already pay for medical care through insurance (rates, co-pay, etc) and of out of pocket? If I'm paying less to insurance companies (and business owners paying nothing to have their employees covered) then I'm more than happy to pay more in taxes if I'm overall paying less than I was before
people doing their jobs
lmao, sorry I don't want to fund your third yacht and private island, mr pharma man
Fuck me. I have a Lithuanian motherfucker that was definitely a PA, and then suddenly became a Medical Doctor. Either he was finishing up his residency while working full time at the VA (literally 100+ hour work weeks between the two) or I'm being fucked with by someone without any training.
What firearm out of the several you own would you say is your favorite? Do you actually own guns, fag?
100% die because you can't afford medication
maybe die being bitten to death by ants
it's still worth the ant-death risk
At least we're all in it together, but not really.
How much do americans already pay for medical care through insurance
It depends but most of the cost is taken up by the employer or with Obamacare the government subsidies if you qualify(it's outright exorbitant if you don't). Now in theory under universal healthcare you get those premiums the employer was paying back as wages, but since they'll also see a massive tax increase under this scheme you'd likely see a continuation of wage stagnation in a best case scenario, and maybe even a reduction in wages depending on how aggressive the new corporate tax rate is given wages are already really fucking stagnant. The short answer is you won't be paying less because no one talking about these schemes is actually talking about reducing costs in any real way .i.e capping rates, only having the government footing the bill instead of private insurers but now with an added layer of incompetent bureaucracy.
Alternatively stop letting an industry that has proven it can't be trusted to set it's own prices and rates set their own prices and rates.
my beretta 1301
oy begorrah, I've been censored.
tfw got on SSI at 18
TFW plan F medicare also
Yup fuck capitalism, right boys?
And the Medicare/Medicaid system, and Tricare. This is the reason sane Americans don't want government Healthcare, they can't do it right and would probably kill us all.
Universal Medicare is just giving them a big handout to keep charging 500 dollars for disposable bedpans and 2500 dollars for an MRI when the actual costs are probably a tenth of that while the government impotently "negotiates" costs that still end up having 1000% percent profit margins on it.
T H I S
People forget that Obama signed into law a bill that blocked Medicare from negociating the prices of all drugs.
Daily reminder that David Schwimmer's character in Band of Brothers starved to death in a pool of his own shit in a VA hospital. The VA has been complete shit since it was formed in the 30s.
I would literally prefer medicare over my current private insurance PURELY because the deductibles are so fucking high and my out of pocket costs literally cost me a fifth of my income if I need to use it.
The fact that I pay like 2000 dollars a year just for myself no one else but the insurance only covers 80% of the bill up to 5000 out of pocket is fucking ridiculous. Seriously I make slightly too much for obamacare to be absolutely free for me and its this massive difference between paying up to 7000 dollars a year to not fucking die or get cancer screenings or other simple shit and getting it for absolutely free.
And thats basically because every employer is hyper stingy about their heathcare costs. They don't want to provide it or pay for it because it hurts their profits meanwhile you suffer hardcore.
I tried to get bloodwork for a metabolic panel, hormones and nutrients and shit and it apparently cost 1900 dollars and the insurance only covered 1k of it sticking me with a 900 dollar bill. The hospital had no financial assistance and refused to negotiate on the bill. So now I had to borrow money to pay for it because basically if I want to make sure I don't have cancer I need to miss rent.
Almost 5 times that, actually.
Every year. Outnumbering all collective firearm related deaths, every. single. year.
And doctors act like they have a hand in the argument.
You know that's a real good point nobody brings up. If government ran healthcare would be as great as people claim, then how come the VA - the only government ran healthcare program in the US - is an absolutely disgrace and death sentence?
The VA and it's people running it work for the military and unlike the US civilian population the military has little standards when it comes to auditing or denial of work hazards.
This is why the VA is such shit. They're literally all about denying people coverage because they don't want to inadvertently blame the military for you getting cancer. If they do that it means they accept responsibility and the more they can shift blame away means the less "bad" they do.
In Vietnam the VA wouldn't see or cover people with regards to ptsd. It wasn't until ptsd was more accepted and understood did people start to actually get help from the VA but they would vehemently deny that the war had caused any permanent mental health issues. The same goes for agent orange toxicity or napalm toxicity.
the only government ran health care.
Medicare literally does more to help and get people treated than the VA
A more recent issue is the use of burn pits in the Iraq war. Literally throw anything in the burn put and burn it. No we aren't gonna issue you respirators you don't need it.
Meanwhile when you get back to the states and have ludicrous issues because of the toxic shit you breathed in the VA denies that you got it due to the military service and will literally blame ANYTHING else as a reason why you have this oddly specific lung disease or cancer that would only come from burning tires or literal human waste.
Why government health care such a shitfest in the US while Germany and the Netherlands are doing largely fine?
Because in the 50s we actually could have had universal Healthcare because the was a bill that Truman was going to sign but the Healthcare industry even at the time lobbied against it under the guise of "that's socialism and socialism is bad".
It also stems from people being fucking stupid and would rather pay a Healthcare company out the ass and get health insurance that doesn't cover anything than cut out the middleman and actually get coverage without going bankrupt.
Rampant corruption within the US state apparatus is by large the biggest issue, along with the ridiculous health insurance industry. Another issue is Americans literally can't be assed to eat decent and live non-sedentary lifestyles.
Surely it's not a (((coincidence)))
Reminder that (mostly jewish) doctors were caught deliberately and intentionally trying to provoke opiate addictions.
Why government health care such a shitfest in the US
Because Republicans exist to turn everything into a public-to-private money funnel. Democrats do it to, just to a lesser extent. Not to mention the private-for-profit healthcare industry in the United States is about as toxic as it gets.
modern superdiseases evolving naturally
ants infesting wounds due to neglect and nigger tier lazines
same exact thing
Ask me how I know youre a worthless liberal.
Was gonna post this
I get the impression that there is literally zero governmental oversight on these VA run hospitals.
It's the opposite problem: VA facilities are RUN by the government. That's *why* they are so bad. Government oversight doesn't improve things. Rather, it makes the problems worse.
More like hospitals are cutting cleaning crew and nurses meaning there are less cleaning people to clean rooms and less nurses seeing more patients which means less time for each one meaning less care for things like hygiene.
Quite a bit more than that user. It’s only the third leading cause of death in the US after cancer and (unsurprisingly) heart disease.
We’d need a purge of the entire country for such a thing to be both achievable and not a giant disaster waiting to happen. I mean on all levels too, from the rich money grabbers and employers/companies to the poor fatties who don’t know anything else but Walshart and Micky Dicks.
Things like lobbying and hunger for shekels. Neither side of the fence is better in this regard btw, both deserve a collective bullet to the back of the head.
Dude the jammer we use to stop IEDs from going off uses a toxic as fuck outgassing which causes brain damage and your hair to fall out. Got curious about the topic because my canadian girlfriend was in the army, she worked with jammers her entire tour and lost all her hair to allopecia and got blurred vision from actual brain damage they called a 'preeexisting condition'.
And dont get me started on heavy metal poisoning, chelation between tours should be mandatory, especially for soldiers who plan on having kids.
Not really "run by the government" moreso the military
Fight for freedom
get devoured by ants
third leading cause
It frequently crosses into #2 and even #1 at times. But nah guns are the problem
a program that gives out money to private hospitals is the same thing as the government running the hospitals
go fuck yourself
We see you have a claim here that you got your oddly specific cancer
yea my doctor says you only get this through biological waste exposure I'm pretty sure it came from the burn pits they told me to get rid of
well I don't think thats really the cause I mean you work in an office and there are bathrooms there you probably got it from the dirty toilets at your office I can't approve this claim because you have no direct proof that your military service caused it sorry kthxbai
US healthcare a shitfest
#1 country for cancer research
An imperialist country doesn't care for its puppets once they've been expended and thrown away. It is merely an empty gesture so people can't claim they aren't doing anything at all, and as such doesn't isn't entitled receive any more resources than it absolutely must.
It's quite a different affair when compared to actual public healthcare, which clearly works properly everywhere else, but is too hard of an challenge for shithole-USA to manage. After all, semi-literally bleeding people dry is more profitable on the short term, than having a healthy and productive citizenry, which only pays off on the long term..
The government provides subsidy so people can go to the doctors
NO THATS NOT UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE.
UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE IS GOVERNMENT RUN HOSPITALS
Pretending that the VA isn't by extension a similar government program for giving people healthcare and somehow medicare isn't that and then conflating the VA with being what Universal Healthcare would be is retarded.
Yea funny how that works
US number 1 for healthcare technology, pharmacology and everything
like the worst for making sure people don't die of stupidly preventable healthcare issues
Isn't that #1 contry, ironically, Cuba?
We get it. You can't add anything to the discussion without mentions jews.
You know the US is fucked when some company has hiked the price of insulin so high that people can't afford it and die but its socialism if you think that shouldn't happen.
this dude again
water/electricity cuts out frequently
hospitals literally crumbling around patients because infrastructure is all but nonexistent
often have to wait days for certain machines to arrive just to begin treatment or diagnosis
Cuban doctors claim it's not for the money, while also taking up any and all international contracts they can strictly because the pay is exponentially more
leading to their famous "1 doctor per 150 patients" to go absolutely tits up
Such a great system indeed, truly a modern marvel
Yet, people like you refuse to acknowledge a coincidence, even when acknowledging the repetition and relation.
Treatments and prescribing a fuckton of medication are more profitable than cures.
The boomers have truly done a number on this country.
The only people who cant afford insulin are those without insurance.
Yet nothing, I gave no opinion beyond observing you repeatedly mentioning jews.
Germany and the Netherlands are doing largely fine
This is largely a myth. They are given a set of things they will be measured on (life expectancy, infant mortality, number of successful treatments) and they prioritize these stats over everything else.
1. A million people have disease X, and 10 have a chance of dying.
2. 10 people have disease Y, ten have a chance of dying.
If it costs the same to prevent either situation from happening, or even less for situation 2, they will choose to sink all funding in the first and ignore the second. The guys dying from situation two get laughed at by the socialized system.
1. Treat newborn baby who is sick and has 90% chance of dying with treatment, but if you fail your failure will be recorded as 'died after treatment' and you will receive less funding from the ministry.
2. Dont treat the baby and her death cant be recorded as 'died after treatment' so your funding stays the same.
3. Treat the baby and the 10% chance actually goes through and she survives, your funding from the ministry remains the same.
What option do you think socialized systems choose?
Also they will sink 0 effort into quality of life and maximum effort into extending life, even if your life is a living hell of pain and suffering.
Overall I would much rather be in USA they would still take my money, than in a socialized system which would ignore me because Im just a number.
b-but I didnt say that
point it out where I did
Sure thing pal, the implication is still there
MRSA is due to dirt
Ask me how I know you are an uneducated useless liberal.
The only implication here is that you've yet deny your inability to not mention jews, but sure, whatever keep posting screencaps whilst everyone (myself withstanding) ignores you.
Staph is NORMAL skin flora for humans
The concern in hospitals is transfer of MRSA between patients because the more common strain is MSSA which is easier to treat because of lack of drug resistance. MRSA exists in the community already so lots of people come in to the hospital infected with it already.
VA hospitals are nothing but government oversight. The point of working at a VA for most people is that you have to work less and the expectations are lower. There is limited incentive to work harder.
You don't know how anything in healthcare works, do you
Compensation is kind of standardized off of what Medicare will pay so indirectly, the gov is setting market prices
The high drug prices you hear about are often for drugs not covered because they're new or rare
Did you just completely make this up?
gets relatively the same answer from multiple people
you're all pulling my leg, what's REALLY happening?
Clown world, indeed.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe it's not one big collective meme?
Cuba is near the top for HIV public health because they have mandatory testing and literally send you to a concentration camp if you are positive
I'm a doctor in the US and just a month ago I had a cousin in Cuba who is finishing med school asking me about how she can come to the US to practice. No one wants to stay there, they get shit pay so they try to find international work assignments and try to not go back.
Or their insurance only covers a small fraction or doesn't cover it at all.
Did you just completely make this up?
No, this was an issue in private canadian hospitals too
Cleaners in hospitals are responsible for sterilization you moron.
You cannot sterilize every square inch of peoples skin for a bacteria that naturally inhavits 100% of the population. Not 90%, not 99%, 100 fucking %.
Back to school annoying whiny numale.
Yeah public healthcare ftw! Reminder this is your fate, a slow death while some niggers pretending to be nurses do nothing
Which is actually a smaller fraction than those who are unable to afford it due to lack of insurance altogether.
We are talking about a veteran here. It is unacceptable for ANY of our heros to experience medical malpractice. This is on a different level than it happening to someone who never got off their ass and served.
Cleaners are responsible for cleaning commonly touched surfaces such as handrails and beds including swapping bed spreads and media.
Many of these MRSA issues are literally caused by poorly sterilized areas and cross contamination.