Is fasting a meme or does it really work? who here has done it properly and gotten results?

is fasting a meme or does it really work? who here has done it properly and gotten results?

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Did it or 4 days, water fast + weightlifting and light cardio. Lost a couple of kilos, didn't noticeably get leaner, maybe got slightly weaker.

Gained everything back within a day or two

Its bad. When you just dont eat your body freaks out and starts consuming muscle for energy.

Imagine speaking so authoritatively about something you don't understand

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It's a meme, what you should really do is eat no breakfast, have a lunch that is 30% of your calories, and then have a dinner that is 70% calories, and you'll be so full that you don't eat anything after dinner.

You’ll lose weight and gain a mental disorder. Totally worth it.

>does going 2000 kcal below maintainance make you lose weight
oh, I don't fucking know.
go back to r*ddit with your dead memes.

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>load up on calories before you go completely sedentary
great plan there chief

Bodybuilders avoid going for more than 500cal deficit because they lose more muscle. Now you're going to say that having 3000 calorie deficit will make you lose no muscle?

bodybuilders generally speaking aren't fat

>He thinks fasting is intended for bodybuilding

It's a meme, literally the laziest and most desperate thing you can do. Choosing to waste away and suffer and not eat anything at all rather than just fix your diet and exercise a bit and get some discipline.

Commonly used by fitizens who don't go outside and have no commitments or responsibilities.

It's like going into hybernation but being fully aware of your hunger and suffering.

Expect to feel like absolute shit and have no energy.

Not advised if any mental health issues or if you have a job or exercise.

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It's literally intermittent fasting.

skipping breakfast != fasting

>They think bodybuilding/eating every 3 hours isn't more memey

but thats wrong retard.

after the inital hunger goes away you don't even remember that you were hungry to begin with. you can actually gain energy for a while from it because your brain is going into survival mode so it works in overdrive and give you a boost to your body so that you can find food if you are in a survival situation. when you eat 3 meals a day you aren't in survival mode so you actually have less energy because your body thinks you don't need that much energy cause you already have food

>have zero calories for 4 days
>does it work
no

That's your opinion.

Look up ketosis dum dum

Exactly. Who is going to be in better shape, a hungry lion or a happy lion?

That doesn't apply to bodybuilders with low body fat. Fasting or keto without muscle loss only works for fat people.

>Does starving myself actually give me more energy?
>Does starving myself actually make me feel better, or have I just forgotten what that feels like?
>Why even enjoy life when I can starve myself?
>Why diet and exercise when I can do the absolute most extreme thing possible and just not eat at all?
>Why am I not posting on a 14yo emo bulemia anorexia suicide girl forum instead so I can be with my own kind?
>Am I actually doing this because i am too self conscious and afraid to go to a gym?

These are important questions user.

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Are you implying there are people on this board who are not landwhales and actually have any muscle?

Everyone here is fat as fuck which is the reason we have a fasting general.

Imagine misunderstanding the point of fasting this much.

Fasting is a sin. Cannibalism is against g*d and going in ketosis is cannibalizing yourself.

>is fasting a meme or does it really work?
Fasting only works if you each shit which you do not know is shit for you.

It's a total clense and everybody who swears by fasting is actually getting the benefits they would get from eliminating something harmful in their diet.

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IF is pretty good.

>fasting is a sin
>jesus went 40 days without food

wat

No, I was replying to the guy mumbling about ketosis, muscle loss and body builder.

babbys first fast thread

Imagine starving yourself for days at a time, calling it fasting so you sound less like an emo teenager, and spending 90% of your time in an echo chamber filled with other barely functioning infidels reassuring each other that you don't have a mental illness.

Get better user. I'm thinking of you.

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imagine stuffing your face full of garbage foods and never giving your stomach a chance to rest and heal itself

imagine..

God on earth doesn't count, dude

Imagine not knowing what ketosis is

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you're not going to do it anyway because you're a gluttonous fuck
you're not going to lift
you're not going to do your cardio
you're gonna keep fapping to porn 3000 times a year
you're not gonna make it

Imagine eating like a normal animal on planet Earth.

Imagine having the discipline to be able to eat and control your appetite and not have to resort to hyperbolic eating where you either eat nothing or eat like a fucking slob and then feel so bad about your lack of control that you starve yourself for another 3 days as a masochistic self hating punishment.

Imagine telling a clinical psychologist or doctor that you only eat two meals a week that consist of thousands of calories and that it's not a mental illness but in fact is totally normal and healthy and it's not anorexia or body dysmorphia but rather fasting and refeeding and tons of people on Jow Forums do it wit a straight face.

Imagine not having to make yourself throw up when you accidentally put something in your stomach before the scheduled refeeding date.

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All neanderthals, homo erectus, homo sapiens and everyone before it that had no access to food commited a sin because they were poor and couldent find food? All of the children that were left starving in chains and entered ketosis, the very definition of fasting, were commiting an act of treason agaisnt god? Imagine being this delusional
Also the fuck do you mean god on earth doesnt count? Jesus had a human body, lived like a human, ate like a human, but he is exempt from the rules? the fuck are you on about

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>Everyone is a fat fuck like me
>There are only extremes in life
Learn some disciple and healthy habits.

>he doesn't know fasting is for cleansing the stomach
>he doesn't know what intermittent fasting is
>he fell for the status quo 3 meals a day meme
>he wonders why he can't lose weight, feels like shit, and has no energy

projection

>Imagine eating like a normal animal on planet Earth.

you mean feasting and fasting?

this isn't your personal diary, we know you aren't going to do any of that shit

>Imagine eating like a normal animal on planet Earth.
Three evenly spaced meals every single day because you have a constant access to pasteurised and processed foods that have been selectively bred beyond recognition over last few hundred years.

Totally normal

>cleansing the stomach
Do you also rely on crystals to clean your chakras?

t. fatty who can't go half a day without stuffing his face

get some discipline faggot

> Imagine eating like a normal animal on planet Earth.

I wonder why our ancestors never had kidney, pancreatic and liver issues that were related to food? They could never find food, leading to long-term fasting. Our bodies were shaped and developed to those conditions over millions of years. 100 years of easily obtainable food isnt gonna change that, thats why things like diabetes exist. Eating normally is not breakfast, lunch and dinner. Not saying fasting is healthy, but this generally accepted bullshit of eating 3 meals a day is good for you and pushing 3000 calories on daily basis is fine is annoying af

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>thinks his stomach being in a constant state of digestion is healthy and natural

when you sleep your brain get a break, but if you eat 3 meals a day your stomach never gets a break. this is why you'll develop stomach problems one day

>losing more muscle than fat than muscle
Yes

english motherfucker

I'm doing classic calorie cutting right now, but I'm still skeptical whether or not doing some IF like 16:8 has any noticeable effect at all.

I used to do it before, but since I had no idea how many calories I'm eating, it's hard to deduce anything from it.

>I wonder why our ancestors never had kidney, pancreatic and liver issues that were related to food?
Because they died before their 30s

Maybe you’re too dumb to understand

>He thinks average life expectancy means no one lived past that age

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It doesn't, it's simply harder to go above your calories in a smaller window of time

Good argument, Lets just ignore the other 20-30% that lived until 60,70 and sometimes even 80 shall we? And mind you, that most likely did not die of anything that was food related

>muscle than fat than muscle

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Gotta say I also have no fucking clue what you meant. Can you express yourself using more complex language constructs? Thank you very much user.

here's what i do. 8 hour window of eating whatever the fuck i want, and 16 hours of fasting. pigging out during the 8 hours makes it easy to go 16 hours without any food. im not necesarily trying to lose weight though, i'm just doing it for the cleansing health benefits and so i can pig out everyday and not gain weight like i would if i didn't do the 16 hour fast

Imagine putting physiological stress on your entire body and risking thyroid damage in order to do something as vague as cleansing the stomach.

Imagine seeing your weight drop 5 pounds every time you starve yourself for 3 days and not realize most of that is water.

Imagine being such a sperg that you even entertain yjr thought of starving yourself to be less of a fat fuck.

Imagine being so autistic that you put weight loss above meeting even the most basic needs in life.

Imagine being so out of touch that you think in order to get a gf you have to starve yourself.

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>gets in a debate about fasting
>never heard of IF/PF
>thinks fasting always means multiple days without food

classic

yeah this is what i do. I usually eat somewhere in between 1pm-8pm, and then just drink water for the rest. if you really are looking to cut weight, you obviously cant pig out like user. You should control what you eat and enter a caloric deficit. atleast thats how i did

>Imagine putting physiological stress on your entire body and risking insulin resistance in order to do something as vague as eating three meals a day, day in day out

>Imagine seeing your weight drop 5 pounds every time you starve yourself for 3 days and not realize most of that is water.
Thinks water-fasting means not drinking water

>Imagine being so autistic that you put weight loss above meeting even the most basic needs in life.
Insinuating fasting isn't an important need for autophagy

That's just a shitty presentation of statistics, nothing else. Imagine your woman popped out like 10 little fuckers and almost all of them died before they reached teen age because of incurable diseases and whatnot. Some of them managed to live to their 70s or even more. Now take an average of all their ages when they died - you'll get something like 20-30 as you say.

Doesn't say much, right?

Here's a better idea: filter out all the people that died before the age of 15 and THEN take the average. You'll get much more informative number.

>Thinks starving himself is discipline.
>Thinks dichotomic thinking and behaviours is healthy.
>Doesn't realize he has lost so much discipline that he actually has to abstain from eating for days at a time until he feels like he can binge eat and not feel guilty

are people still spreading the retarded myth that fasting makes your body cannibalizes your muscle mass

> Imagine putting physiological stress on your entire body and risking thyroid damage in order to do something as vague as cleansing the stomach

Intermmitent fasting is a thing if you're scared of "psychological stress and thyroid damage". Show me studies of people fasting where there has been that type of damage. After 2-3 days, you dont feel hungry, how can you be psychologically stressed when your body is getting its energy?

>Imagine seeing your weight drop 5 pounds every time you starve yourself for 3 days and not realize most of that is water.

Now continously fast for 3 days over the span of 3 months. Are you gonna say the 30lbs lost were all water, and not the fat being burned by ketosis? good meme

>Imagine being such a sperg that you even entertain yjr thought of starving yourself to be less of a fat fuck.

Good argument, im definetly not gonna fast after reading that!

>Imagine being so autistic that you put weight loss above meeting even the most basic needs in life.

The fuck do you mean basic needs in life? Our ancestors didnt have food for weeks, how is it a need of life? water, o2 are more important, those you cant live without. Food? you can last without it for months

>Imagine being so out of touch that you think in order to get a gf you have to starve yourself.

Nobody mentioned that they were fasting to get a gf. again, great point, definetly not gonna fast now!

Scientific studies about what ketosis is, and studies about the benefits of fasting arent enough for some people i guess

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>says this as his fingernails and keyboard are filled with cheeto dust

I lost 150 lbs on low calorie, doing it for a year + will probably give you some kind of an eating disorder. I've tried fasting too, I feel like a 7 day once a month would be more sustainable as a solution if you can maintain the same weight between fast.

"Fasting does not help weight loss any more than other conventional approaches and can be harder to stick with over the long term."

>D-damn guys, looks like I put myself through hell for no reason. I can't reconcile this fact and so cognitive dissonance will force me to find some reason why fasting was a good idea. My brain won't allow me to face the truth because that means I made a mistake, so instead I'll make a post in response to this post questioning the validity, legitimacy, experience, understanding, knowledge, ulterior motive, and qualifications of the doctors who user is quoting. user is surely cherry picking but I am too afraid to Google it myself.

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"Although it is a well-known term in dieting culture, true starvation mode only occurs after several consecutive days or even weeks without food.

So, for those breaking their fast after 24 hours, it is generally safe to go without eating for a day unless other health conditions are present."
You didn't even read your own dumb article

"Fasting is not necessarily better than any other weight-loss method, including reducing daily calorie intake by a small amount.

In a recent study, people with obesity who fasted intermittently for 12 months lost slightly more weight than those who dieted in a more traditional way, but the results were not statistically significant."

K-K-K-KO!!!!

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Honestly not having to think about food is surprisingly nice. Intermettient FASTING is honestly great

You're embarrassing yourself user

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>literally called break fast
>don't eat it
>don't break fast
>it's somehow not still fasting

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>intermittently
Implying intermittent fasting is the best type of fasting to lose weight kek
5 day water with pink himalayan salt/snake juice fasts 2-4 times a month = the best weight loss.
Also how much of a fag can you be by commeting ko on your own fuckign comment? do you think youre some genius because you read an article?

Wow user you're so skinny! How did you do it??

>I drank snake water for 30 days and shit blood, I now suffer from bipolar but it was worth it! See my abs?!?

W-wow user!... Oh hi Chad! Excuse me user...

thank you for that very informative piece of information. Providing 0 evidence on the effects of a 30 day fast and claiming that it will make your shit blood without sources will definetly make me believe your stupidity

>Fasting is a sin
What is Lent?

I did it for... I think 12 days?

Wouldn't recommend it.

You don't actually lose much weight. You are insanely lethargic for those days because you don't get any calories from food.

You'll get headaches because of lack of salt, and you'll be drinking shitloads of water to kill the time.

Your hunger does go away after like the third day because your body turns your digestive system into low mode.

You'd be better off eating a lot of low calorie stuff, as it would maintain your digestive system. You lose a lot of potential "maintenance" caloric losses because your body just stops functioning at 100%.

Don't waste your time.

Sounds like you did it wrong...Fasted for 15 days using Snake Juice and my experience was much different than yours.

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just what is "snake juice?" Like, whats a recipe?

Just finished 5 days. Felt fine. Obviously lost a bit of weight because physics. Then I ate half a lasagna. I'll probably start another fast tomorrow. Works for me.

>You don't actually lose much weight
no
>You are insanely lethargic for those days because you don't get any calories from food
no
>You'll get headaches because of lack of salt, and you'll be drinking shitloads of water to kill the time
no

fasting is incredibly beneficial for your overall health. go watch Snake Diet videos.

hey guy, you're pretty misinformed. there's a ton of science that calorie deficits are not the same as fasting.

so is Intermittent + 500cal fasting a meme or not?

every thread there are mixed opinions on rather or not it works.

eating less should mean weight loss but every thread people talk as though your body will pull some bullshit to return you to status quo if you dare try fasting this way.

I’ve called out enough people for their retardation today, so instead this is why you’re wrong:
Bodybuilders generally stay under 15% bodyfat, muscle loss becomes a problem when you drop below double digits. Bodybuilders are also on gear, most of the bodybuilding rules about nutrition and such were made by the old pros who were gearing before they even knew gear was harmful. Gear can take you past your natty limit, where it’s easy for the body to lose muscle because past the natty limit is mass it just doesn’t need. Do yourself a favor and stay off of bodybuilding forums

You can go to the fast generals and it's at the top. It's basically pink salt, potassium, baking soda in a 2l bottle of water.