After about 3 years of regular lifting within the confines of my work schedule, I am looking to explore ways to get better returns for my effort.
I am considering purchasing the pic related combo pack, but have some basic questions for those more experienced than me
-Is each 30 ML bottle considered enough for one single cycle? -Can these be safely taken all together concurrently, or should I go through one at a time? -Is Striker Labs known to be a decent brand at all? -Does this stuff actually work or is it a huge meme? -I have a condition that will require me to take opiod prescriptions for a somewhat extended period of time. Will it be safe to use SARMs while taking opiods?
>Is each 30 ML bottle considered enough for one single cycle? It depends on the compound and the concentration of the solution. Rad-140 is usually dosed at 10-15 mg a day. LGD at 5 mg a day. >Can these be safely taken all together concurrently, or should I go through one at a time? It’s best not to stack them because they occupy the same receptors. A stack won’t get you noticeably better results but will suppress you a lot more. However, you can take MK-677 because it isn’t a SARM but a ghrelin mimetic. >Is Striker Labs known to be a decent brand at all? No, shit brand go on r/SarmSourceTalk >Does this stuff actually work or is it a huge meme? It’s alright and a lot of people prefer it because of less side effects, no aromatization and no need for any pct. It’s a great stepping stone into peds though. >I have a condition that will require me to take opiod prescriptions for a somewhat extended period of time. Will it be safe to use SARMs while taking opiods? Not sure, ask on r/peds
Christian Fisher
This particular pack is relatively inexpensive for my budget at $170, and I would much rather prefer to orally dose
Ryder Thomas
Assuming you're actually getting legit stuff, yes, they do work.
No idea about opioids. All of these SARMS have minimal research behind them in terms of identifying drug interactions, but my guess is they would not pose interaction.
Brandon Flores
If you can buy it on Amazon it's not good.
Also, dude, seriously? Taking research chemicals not approved for human use made in a Chinamans bath tub. for... what? 2 years of lifting is enough to get a body normies drool over. 2 years is enough time to get to good health, endurance, power, etc.
You actually have a mental illness of some kind if you want to take potentially extremely dangerous chemicals for extra muscle you don't need.
Thank you, all this information helps alot, especially with pointing me where to go for self-research
Adam Campbell
>Will it be safe to use SARMs while taking opiods?
If you actually get SARMs, yes. If you get "SARMS" (which is much, much more likely. No supplier has ever been tested pure) there's a mix of all sorts of shit in there, most commonly prohormones, which absolutely fuck your liver. I don't know how the body processes opiods but if it involves the liver, avoid it.
Liam Cook
>Taking research chemicals not approved for human use
Implying you need ((them)) to tell you something is ok to take
Henry Clark
While I knew that SARMs in general where in the same legal grey market as recreational research chemicals, I was under the impression that the production was pretty consistent at this point given how many people I've seen enthusiastic about them on Jow Forums. The warnings of sketchyness is enough to make me reconsider and maybe just get more protein powder and press on natty...
Jose Hughes
>No supplier has ever been tested pure
That's wrong. I ran a SARM company. We always had our chems tested by a third party US lab and they were always pure (at least the batches that made it...you do blow through a lot of Chinese frauds) Anyways some doping researchers did a research article on SARMs and ended up buying and testing our sample- concluded it was pure.
Now that doesn't change your overall point that there's a lot of shit floating around. But that's the case with steroids too.
Gabriel Long
He’s wrong, they all get them from China but the difference is some companies third party test. Venogen and Chemyo actually do third party tests and are very reputable. The only times I’ve ever heard of people getting prohormones instead of SARM’s are with companies that sell their stuff in certain supplement shops like Striker Labs. However, if you get paranoid this easily I’d stay away because you’re going to be very paranoid while on cycle.
Zachary Rogers
Is this the irc.bio guy??
Landon Ward
dont trust striker labs. check Jow Forumssarmsourcetalk
Alexander Ramirez
is charles posting on fit?
William Harris
irc.bio under dosed when a guy on youtube tested their shit
Colton Butler
Hear much about Purerawz? I bought form them because they seemed consistently ok on some anabolics forums I use. The worst news I found was it takes time to ship some times
Josiah Watson
Not sure about them now. I got some MK-677 from them a while ago that was great but the Tadalafil I got from them recently is ifffy. I’ve got some Indian pharma cialis on the way now and I’ll post a review on r/SarmSourceTalk if I react the same way I did to the PureRawz Tadalafil.
Sebastian Richardson
Nice one bro, appreciate it
William Jackson
After checking out Venogen it seems like it would be worthwhile to pull the trigger on their YK11 and MK-677 based upon my needs. Does anyone know a good dosing regimen for these?
Hudson Parker
MK is 10-25mg a day, YK11 idk dude, I'd stick to the better researched stuff like LGD and ostarine. 5-19mg a day for those
Jose White
Exactly how noided are we talking, and is that kind of side-effect typically across the board for all SARMs? The most noided I've been able to tolerate while still functioning in day to day life was on high doses of Yohimbine. I definitely don't want to act like the people I've known cycling actual roids, they act like they belong in a mental ward.
Elijah Wilson
Thank you for spoonfeeding me, its very helpful. So LGD-4033 and ostarine promote muscle growth well? Also, how many days should one be taking these daily in a cycle?
Christian Gray
Why YK-11? Most people go with rad-140 for strength and lgd for mass. Mk-677 can be dosed at 10-30 mg a day.
Jace Lee
r/peds r/sarmsourcetalk
Some brand shilling with the source talk but a good starting point none the less.
Joseph Young
No, it isn’t a side effect of the SARM’s but I was just saying that if you’re very paranoid about it already then it’ll be amplified while taking it.
Jaxson Garcia
Unless you're roiding, don't take sarms. Waste of money.
Sebastian Harris
I understand, honestly I'm the sort of guy who just throws caution to the wind (within reason). I've seen people post about their success with these substances for so long over the years that my interest is piqued, and I can afford at least one cycle to give it a spin. If I experience bad effects I'll just discontinue use
Sounds like the LGD would be better for me, my strength has built up well over the years but I am having trouble with good hypertrophy for mass.
Brayden Robinson
Are you saying this from experience or because SARMS sounds like a meme? I dismissed it as a meme as well until I saw the same suppliers that I purchase my recreational research chemicals from stocking these compounds alongside them. If they were worthless, these suppliers that I personally use wouldn't bother.
Elijah Turner
Chances are you’ll be able to try all of them pretty soon anyways. You don’t need to PCT for SARM’s with any SERM’s because they don’t suppress your LH and FSH like steroids do. So you can run an 8 week cycle, recover in 4 weeks and then run another cycle. I wouldn’t be surprised if you moved up into pinning test after your first cycle though.
Matthew Clark
I took MK 677 for a while and it helped me with appetite and I put on a little size. The reason I would advise against it is I just didn't find the results worth what I spent on the MK677. You would be further off to do a cycle of Test E.
Isaac Anderson
Mk-677 isn’t a sarm, it’s a ghrelin mimetic and only raises GH/IGF-1 enough to notice water retention and faster recovery. The amount of increase in GH/IGF-1 wouldn’t amount to any hypertrophy and you’d need to pin a lot of actual GH
Nolan Peterson
Decided to go with Chemyo instead for their larger product sizes. Should this do me well for a first time cycle? Thanks for all the help guys.
I simply can't do needles, and being able to order these over the clearweb with a debit card is a big plus. I'm not looking to get completely hulked out as it is, just push over this plateau a bit. Thanks for your input though.
Something tells me your advice isn't the highest of quality
Benjamin Watson
chemyo is good but your reasoning is retarded. The 50ml bottles make it a pain to get the cycles timed with empty bottles. Their prices per mg of product if you actually bothered to do the math aren't anything stellar. They're good and I trust them tho.
Jonathan King
take the MK677 faggot enjoy ur bloat
Sebastian James
LGD should be more than enough for a full 8 week cycle. The MK-677 can be enough depending on what dose you respond to best. You may be able to take 12.5 mg a day or you might need 25-40 mg. I’d personally wait a little longer on Chemyo though as their 25% off code RED25 just expired and they should post another on r/SarmSourceTalk in a few weeks, unless you’re not worried about the money. PureRawz has one BRYAN15 and NarrowsLabs has SULLIVAN25. Venogen doesn’t have one right now as far as I know.
Easton Taylor
Some people like to take the MK-677 for months on end. Others like to take it only after the cycle for 4-6 weeks so that the GH/IGF-1 increase helps them most of their gains from the cycle. That being said, most people respond well to 12.5 mg, I’m just an outlier for that.
Cooper Morgan
At this point I was planning to just use it until the bottle was finished and from there decide if I want to continue cycling seriously. This is just a test run. I did notice that their prices aren't the best, maybe I'll shop around more. I mainly just want to be sure the source is reputable though.
Hell yeah, that's helpful. I take it all of these sources are trusted in the community?
Isaiah Allen
Lol if you don't know anything about any of these questions you certainly shouldn't be buying any muscle building supplements of any kind.
Nathaniel Reyes
>At this point I was planning to just use it until the bottle was finished and from there decide if I want to continue cycling seriously
I sure hope you're just talking about mk677 and not a SARM like LGD
Colton Morales
yea seriously dude, do a little research first
Thomas Carter
What does it mean when a compound is labelled a suppressant?
So the LGD should definitely not be pushed past the 8 week every day dosing without a recovery period afterwards?
Well that's kinda what I'm here for.
Andrew Baker
Irc.bio was supposedly the most trusted in that community, but keep in mind that it is reddit of all places. Anyways, irc.bio recently closed and they sold all of their stock and intellectual property to Venogen. Something tells me that it’s still the same guys but they wanted to take a little heat off of them and move out of the US. I have yet to see any negative reviews about them and Chemyo. PureRawz doesn’t have the best customer service but they do have u/leakierdelts helping people out on the subreddit and they’re cheap. I have heard some negative reviews about PureRawz but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s caused by paranoia. Narrowslabs has good direct customer service and are cheap. I haven’t heard anything bad about narrowslabs. Ultimately, you’re going to get what you pay for 98% of the time from PureRawz/NarrowsLabs especially if you’re buying their most popular stuff like the MK-677 and LGD. Meanwhile it’s 100% of the time for Chemyo/Venogen and they have good customer service to patch any issues up. I’d personally recommend just going with Venogen/Chemyo for your first time if you get easily paranoid. Otherwise, take a pick. There’s also ProvenPeptides, some reddit users that just made their own company and a few others.
Adrian Cox
you're on Jow Forums asking us to spoonfeed you shit you could learn on your own. look at Jow Forumspeds
Anthony Walker
>suppressant These drugs will suppress your natural testosterone temporarily. The degree of suppression depends on the dose and how your body personally reacts to the compound. Your body guaranteed fully recover from the cycle within 6 weeks after stopping. There’s no way to avoid this with SARM’s unless you use HCG which is probably very unnecessary and maybe even harmful.
Brandon Jenkins
Forgot to add that these companies all have the same 1 or 2 suppliers and usually receive portions of the same batch.
Jose White
I am an asshole and I am also appreciative of all the help that I've received. I trust it from you guys more than elsewhere.
I used to purchase unrelated compounds from irc.bio so this is all REALLY important information to know, thank you so much.
Interesting... so in layman's terms, these substances replace the effects and production of your natural test with their own effects for the cycle time period, before tapering off back to a natural state during recovery?
Samuel Lee
Yes, it’s extremely unlikely that you won’t fully recover from SARM’s.
Brody Adams
>Interesting... so in layman's terms, these substances replace the effects and production of your natural test with their own effects for the cycle time period, before tapering off back to a natural state during recovery?
this is very very basic stuff that you're asking. I'm surprised you were looking to buy this stuff before even knowing how it works. Its in the name Selective Androgen Receptor Modulator. THINK mcfly, it's exactly what it says on the tin. It activates your androgen receptors in a selective manor.
Robert Robinson
Legit SARMS can no longer be purchased anywhere I'm aware of. All the legit research chemical companies shut down after a certain bill passed Committee, just a heads up if you're probably getting bunk stuff.
Isaac Harris
I’d recommend having some Nolva/clomid on hand though just in case. You never know for sure and just having it can provide peace of mind.
Adrian Young
What is this manor's address?
Chase Richardson
Um no, this isn't true at all. The bill was never passed.
Parker King
It wasn’t passed and the guy that proposed it just retired.
Andrew Davis
They literally all buy from Alibaba.
Charles Stewart
I get that roids and you know what you get (bad stuff), and that SARMs are a relative unknown.
But I don't get the argument they're expensive. I guess most of Jow Forums is actually pretty poor.
itt: someone who has literally never read or researched anything about the stuff they're asking about, and won't use any of the information they're charitably being given in this thread to begin researching (AKA FUCKING GOOGLING ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS), but instead asks more questions like they're owed something. Die in a fire and get no gains you lazy charity case.
Dylan Cox
Genuinely don't understand how this dude hasn't been told to go fuck himself and learn something on his own before this.
Jaxon Collins
The funny thing is some of the advice here will make him infertile and bald. OP deserves it
Because some here still have a bit of fire beating in their heart for their fellow anons, you absolute curmudgeons
Ayden Lopez
Jokes on you, I'm already bald and never want to have kids
Charles Jones
If they're zoomers who don't do research they dont qualify as my fellow anons.
Joseph Allen
I'm 25, but you'll have a field day with this next bit of info. I actually lied about having a medical condition requiring opiods, I am in fact ordering 20 grams of a powerful fentanyl analogue and will very likely be dosing with it while running this cycle. Perhaps I should keep updates on my health lole
