Nofap

Is fapping as bad for women as it is for men?

I’m into degrading kind of porn so I can obviously guess it’s bad for me but I can’t stop

Everything else in my life is going well, do I still need to no fap? Can you possibly get rid of a fetish?

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>I’m into degrading kind of porn
Don't worry, that's normal. Women don't have any self respect.

Violent and degrading porn is more popular with women than with men. Due to the demonisation of masculinity and a lack of confident/strong/dominant masculine men.

Women arent getting what they want and its escalated into ever more degrading and violent stuff like that.

>Get rid of this fetish
Date a guy who feminists would hate

You think dating an abusive would make me hate it? Cause I’ve never tried any of my ferishes irl

>I'm into degrading kind of porn
Is the porn progressively getting more extreme? NoPorn.
Is it getting harder for you to get off, particularly with real guys? NoPorn and NoSchlick.

Nah u'd love it. Most chicks Ive done abusive shiet just love it. But its good you are in to that cause you will find someone who will abuse you and give you good old shiney eyes when you want.

Just in case you're dense enough to think he's actually advocating for you to get a genuinely abusive man, don't. Just get someone actually masculine who is down to be dominant and a little rough in bed. Stopping porn might not be a bad idea either. At least you're not a guy who's into femdom porn. A genuinely dominant woman who isn't totally fucked up in the head is a unicorn (and a bit of a natural abomination so maybe that's okay that she doesn't really exist).

No, I mean date a man who isn't an emasculated basedboy.

For example; avoid men who support socialism, who support feminism, who support mass immigration, who are vegan, hipsters, druggies

There is a culture war against masculinity.

You're missing and craving masculinity, like many women, and with nothing apparent around you, you escalate and spiral into the degrading and violent stuff.
Out of all the women I've spoken to when we've talked about sex, every single one is absolutely into being used like a fuck toy, face fucked, choked and slapped around, gang banged, etc. There was only one exception and the sole exception was choking due to having some phobia or traumatic experience about her neck.

I think its gone and escalated a bit far, because of the void of available masculinity.


So if you date someone who fulfills your craving for masculinity then you may no longer need to spiral into complete degradation.

nothing wrong with fapping, porn is the real problem

Yes and it keeps taking longer for me to finish

>real guys
Too autistic

Do you realize how hard it is to find men like that? Leftists are really as weak and bad as the right wing just sitting in their basements discussing their opinions on the internet

Big and true

Yeah, and most women are not worth dating, you're assuming you're one of them, I don't know if you are or not, but you're going to have to compete for them (the men like that) and then actually have to offer something as a person other than simply existing as a female.

Otherwise personally I settle for tying people up in shibari and using them.

This is correct, the right wingers that are strong and healthy are unicorns, all the good men died in the Jew pits white man against white man and profits off of it wars.

>support socialism, feminism, and people from shit countries who want a better life
>wife and father-in-law call me a macho man
Get fucked you low T right wing shitbag

Here's a good example of who to avoid

>calling someone else low T
>b-but muh wife says Im macho
>assuming I'm right wing, so he can set up his personal attack
>implying right wing is inherently wrong
>probably anything right of extreme left is right wing to him
>already chimping out with aggressive insults

post body

You're scottish aren't you?

>Low T

I would call these guys the average American leftist, but even with their shit test scores theyre still better looking and in better shape than the average American leftist.

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>Weaker men more likely to support welfare state and wealth redistribution

Weak men are parasites

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Average is more like this

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women don't fap they just go and fuck randoms

Yes, I see a lot of women with receding hairlines who aren't even in their mid 20s yet. The whole feminist movement is comprised of (mostly) useless and angry women who complain about never being able to be satisfied during sex and saying how they don't need man, all the while bragging about how much they masturbate. It's no surprise that autoverstimulation of one's private parts leads to desensitization and less desire to copulate with another person, much less with the opposite sex. Not trying to be mean, but it also sorta explains why a large % of their them just appear dull (physically, not mentally), overweight, and sloppily groomed. Some probably just don't give a fuck, but I guarantee if you masturbate many times a day, everyday you won't give a fuck about appealing to the opposite sex

>NoSchlick
What kind of a faggot uses terms like this?

Porn is immoral and encourages unhealthy attitudes towards sex. The bible encourages us to deaden our members as respects sexual desires.

Based and redpilled and also objectively true

women statistically are less likely to have the obsessive traits with porn than men, but they are still susceptible to it.
your kink will always be there probably, maybe share the space with other kinks, but if it's taking over aspects of your life, then you need to cut yourself off. there is no way to do so without...actually doing it. no one will come in and take your computer away.
fapping is ok, just fap to your imagination instead of to porn. unless you enjoy not cumming from actual sex.

I'm on mobile so excuse the grammar mistakes.

that's a cuck thing to do

I have a very generic face, people say I look like Natalie Portman and I’m not fat either. I’m just autistic or shut in from shitty childhood which I guess is why I’m into this kind of porn and also just being bored makes me watch more and more degenerate stuff

But I’ve always been submissive and idk how to stop, it used to feel bad after I fapped but I don’t anymore. No guilt.

Portugese

I’m not very interesting, I black out after half an hour and just want to be alone

Fapping isn't bad for men and actually has benefits.

You've fallen for a stupid, flat earth tier meme.

cringe and soipilled

>le Jow Forums masculinity meme

yet every Jow Forums meetup is full of beta incels

Never been to Jow Forums

Its not a meme, its reality.

I meant dull as in skin and hair appearance, not face.

There are studies that show low/fatigued dopamine levels negatively impact sociability and communication with others. Looking at porn spikes and overstimulates your dopamine levels.

Try refraining from porn for two weeks and you'll notice a difference in your sociability. I'm not talking about being outgoing, but you'll notice a difference in your ability to carry on a conversation and better picking up on stuff

Porn is bad for everyone, don't use.
Ejaculating and wasting life force is only bad for men, but that's because women's bodies don't have that function

>right wing
This is a third position board, friend

Brutal

Do people really believe this?
Is this meme a thing outside of Jow Forums and Jow Forumstard channels on youtube?

Please stay on your cancer containment board

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Yes.

Porn has the same effect on the brain, you get desensitized mentally and physically, and you overload and abuse your dopamine reward system.
The only difference is you don't have to deal with erectile dysfunction.

fapping is not bad per se, nor does it provide any magical powers to stop.

The main short term benefits are psychological, since you are forcing yourself to stop doing something that gives you inmediate pleasure in exchange for some long term goal or whatever. It's like cold showers, losing weight or working out, it's a way to boost your motivation and to teach yourself discipline and self-control.

Other than that is a meme.

Either they're retards, (likely, since they apparently don't loathe you),
Or they're mocking you.

I don’t even watch it everyday, like maybe twice a month but I’ll try to quit

That's no excuse.

Fugg off, Shillberg

Jow Forums is a regressive, conservative, pro-patriarchy board, you fucking stupid faggot.

Id like to imagine this whole thread is one stupid person changing ips constantly and talking to themself

>The main short term benefits are psychological
Actually they're not only psychological, but physiological as well. There's countless studies that show porn overstimulates and downregulates neurotransmitters in the brain

>Other than that is a meme
kek

Do people who arent sjw shills actually dont believe this?

>American Psychological Association now >WHO says trans/gender dysphoria is not a mental illness
>Gillette makes ad attacking masculinity - in reality for free publicity
>SJW shills call anyone disliking the ad every different type of bigot they can think of
>Infestation of SJW identity politics in education, comics, vidya, social media

Jow Forums is a fitness board on an anime imageboard, you stupid fucking incel

go back to your discord tranny

samefagging should be punished with death

Would be great if you actually knew how to check for samefagging, dumbass.

Tired of seeing people accusing anons of samefagging because they think itll help their case when theyre too lazy to make an actual argument, and also when they have absolutely no argument.

Its like people who use insults instead of responding to the central points being made, in order to avoid having to do that.

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lmao stay mad

nice trips tho

lmao stay hypogonadded

>discord
Wut

Femdom is as porn induced as it can get. I know I hate the trash. Every conscious second there's not a doubt in my mind that the stuff is retarded, illogical, laughable. Look at women in real life. It's a fucking juxtaposition all kept inside the head.

Men are not this naturally submissive. That's retarded as fuck to think. It takes years to build up a submissive man, the same way it takes years to tear it down. Keeping a man submissive requires constant feeding of sub material, aka the porn they watch. But that's where it's so fucked, because porn is the thing most men are addicted to, so then you DO get that spoonfed sub trash every day, it doesn't subside because it's kept alive. And quitting is difficult, no one is even given the chance to go back. It if makes you miserable, it's not the real you, it's what you've become.

Just venting. Still going to keep trying. I need something to eat my time whole that is relatively productive. I don't care about anything.

yikes

Who would actually go to a meetup tho?

... but those are the most Jow Forums beliefs when you are strong you will understand

>I call this guys the average American leftist

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I feel you. I rationally completely understand that what I've been engaging in is unnatural and harmful to myself but I've been unable to really quit. Perhaps I am just a completely weak person, but I had no trouble quitting cigarettes or painkillers despite serious withdrawals from both of those but every time I've tried to quit pornography I've failed. The failure in a way feeds into the habit even more because at a certain point you convince yourself that even though you know it's wrong, that you really are such a pile of refuse that you deserve to wallow in your own weakness and sin. My fiance has tried to be supportive but I can tell it puts serious strain on our relationship, and if she had really any sex drive at all then I don't think she'd put up with my habit that she will entertain occasionally but it's fairly obvious she is uncomfortable with it on a primal level.

>m'lady fedora
>hair is not overly long and ratty
>no neckbeard
>bit fat but not too huge
>suit looks decent, looks better than leftists and most of /fa/

Fast for 2 weeks and he is probably be pretty good

>im a masculine guy irl
>6'3 broad shoulders wide jawline
>jerk off to sissy porn regularly
>hate myself afterwards

this shit isn't good for me

Maybe. I also want to get an abusive husband. I think I would hate it, but at the same time it would feel strangely karmic and just.

When I've been sexually assaulted it felt that way. I despised everything about it, and I still hate the disgusting feelings, but when I look back on the memories it feels right that it happened to me because I deserve it.

So I imagine that's what it will feel like. It'll also be better for a girl who understands abuse to be abused than some poor girl who doesn't even know what's going on. That's my take on it anyway.

LARP

I'm not

Fuck, girls disgust me. How do we deal with girls like you (a type that's increasing)? We can't even beat you into your senses because you'd get off of that.

I don't know what you mean in terms of "deal with". I mean what are your aims?

If you don't want girls to grow up this way maybe you should encourage men not to rape and molest children or pretend that it's normal. I am the way I am because of those experiences.

Don't do that please, I had an abusive girlfriend and it fucked me up

>Never thought I could hurt a woman
>Always wanted to be very loving husbando
>She starts treating me like shit
>Eventually starts to hit me on the regular
>One day I fucking snap
>Beat the shit out of her
>Break up
>Can't imagine me as my old romantic self again

Deal with as in stop sexualizing degradation and help you gain self- respect. You don't enjoy abuse because you were abused. You enjoy abuse because you're degenerate and hyper-sexual as with most women. And majority of men don't abuse women. At least not in the West.

>nofap 3 weeks
>jerk off
>cum is red/pink

uh oh

jesus everything you say is all me me me, and then you wonder why you hate yourself or think you deserve a shit time.

I'm not encouraging women to be abusive towards men. I'm saying that for someone like us, who have fantasies and desires that involve being abused, an abusive partner might not be so bad.

It doesn't matter to me what the "majority of Western men" are like. It only takes one.

And I'm not naturally degenerate, nor am I hyper-sexual in anything but my own mind. I've had to deal with years of these bizzare and disgusting experiences, and processing it all when I didn't even have words to understand what was happening has led to a lot of malformed ideas about sex that consciously I know are wrong but subconsciously I still wholeheartedly believe. I don't believe in having sex before marriage.

I can tell you one thing, calling me names isn't going to help anyone build "self-respect".

Well I will avoid doing so, but it's hard to actually cite any sort of reputable source on these matters other than my own lived experience, because people don't generally talk about these sorts of things.

What I am saying is, don't get or stay in an abusive relationship because it will fuck you up mentally.

>It only takes one.
People will always commit crimes, crime rates are lower than they ever were yet you're blaming men for being incapable of stopping abuse 100% of the time. That's completely impossible to do. I'm not gonna blame men as a whole if a man robs me, nor would I do so for women.

I didn't claim you were naturally degenerate. But you are degenerate. Most people are, hell I am. My views on sex and what gets me off is fucked up as well. Personally, I blame porn because my interests progressed to become worse and worse since I started watching it at 12. Can't get into vanilla stuff. But women seem to be like this even moreso than men despite them watching less porn. Maybe it's because you were abused but I doubt that. Personally I think it's because people are prone to enjoy social taboos and "evil temptations" such as violence and actions that contradict their core values. Women being weaker than men are more susceptible to this. I think you need to realize that there is nothing wrong with you, and that you are just weak as most people. It takes strength to respect yourself and you don't have that. So either continue being hedonistic until you no longer have shame or try and fight it.

As for calling you names, you're being too sensitive. If you take offense to being called a degenerate when you yourself are seeking help to stop your degeneracy, then that's on you.

Guys, it is fucking hard. Porn is waaaay more addictive than cigarettes and painkillers. It is literally a fucking superdrug, so I understand how fucking difficult it is.
But please understand how important it is, not only to your personal lives, but for society in general. Western society is dying for good, masculine men and you guys can be that by quitting porn. Just know that God forgives failure, but failure means you try. God bless you, guys. And I hope you don't give up and keep on trying to quit the habit.

Perhaps it's simply that I spend too much time here, but I see very often men supporting the doctrine that children and teenagers are viable partners and deserve to be raped/taken advantage of so that men can selfishly enjoy them, and this attitude seems to be spreading. I find this objectionable. That's what I meant by telling men they should put a stop to those attitudes.

Most women don't actually enjoy the level of rough sex that you imagine they do. I know this because when I talk to my friends and other women about what seems normal in relationships or what is pleasurable they find even the idea of handcuffing or spanking super "kinky". Most women, at least the ones I know, are super vanilla but will tolerate their partners' antics for the sake of the relationship. And yes, basic differences in male and female anatomy factor into why males typically prefer to be dominant and women submissive. But that doesn't mean most women would actually consider an abusive partner. Many modern women are sensitive to the point at which they'd break up with a guy for simply being non-PC.

It's unclear to me what about my lifestyle you consider "hedonistic".

Yeah, that's definitely mostly limited to Jow Forums, specifically Jow Forums.

And studies have shown that majority of women have rape fantasies. Your friends perhaps are not being honest with you.

Hedonistic as in giving in to your sexual desires even if that means forsaking your other values and perhaps even your mental health.