How come masturbating is supposedly bad for you, but actual sex is not?

How come masturbating is supposedly bad for you, but actual sex is not?

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Because masturbating isn’t bad for you.

It’s the psychological effects of masturbation that are bad, not physical
This question does NOT require its own thread

It's not, and you make the point perfectly that nofap is somebody stupid ass forced meme about which there are several threads per day.

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Do you think that they're the same thing?

The whole idea is you'll get so horny from not jerking off that you're forced to find a gf.

The reality is you end up getting frustrated and depressed and find yourself staring at 50 year old women and getting a boner.

Just jerk off dude.

The point of nofap isn't the pseudoscience that people push about it.

the point is to stop young men wasting time jacking off to degenerate porn that fucks with their dopamine levels, sexual habits and sexual perception
it works for you if you're masturbating too much and watching a lot of porn, because it helps you build better habits and cut down on other shit that's bad for you

everything else is rubbish and should be ignored.

/thread

Ever seen how much you cum when you fuck a woman compared to when you just fap? When I fap it's just a few drops, but I cum a whole dam puddle of cum when I fuck a real woman

Masturbating to nothing is different than watching porn.
Porn and actual sex are completely different to the brain.

it's just incel cope. Masturbation is NOT bad for you, porn is bad for you.

When I come balls deep in my gf I feel satisfied and ready to fuck again in a few minutes. When I jack off I feel depressed and depleted.

>how come artificial foods are bad for you but real food isn’t?

I feel same happy feelings from both jacking off and sex

Am I superhuman

Porn is bad for you jerking it is not

sex is a waste of time as well. just make sure you come on a girls face every 2 week and you're good.

unless that sex is for the purpose of procreation in marriage, then both are extremely bad

no, you are normal. The other user has brain problems.

>puddle of cum

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And why is porn bad for you?

Sex:
>Spend massive amount of time courting women when you could be using that time to lift
>Spend lots of money on going out and gifts
>Risks of STDs and pregnancy (the ultimate gains goblin)

Masturbation:
>Takes all of 20 minutes and you can get back to lifting

No one bothers studying this, no one tries to prove it has negative effects, and there is no "scientific evidence" (as much as companies being pocketed money can follow any real scientific method instead of cherrypicking results) on it, but there are a few sources.

I'm sure yourbrainonporn website can explain it. Most people don't have problems with porn just like most people don't have problems with drinking. But like anything it can become an addiction, and it's clear it makes changes to the brain, for example by shrinking the parts of the brain responsible for decision making (but this is a common trait in all addictions)

Artificial stimulation, thrill seeking, chasing that high arousal sensation that leads you to strange and irredeemable places.

>plagueofstrength.com/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way/
>plagueofstrength.com/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are/
>plagueofstrength.com/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07/
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_intercourse#Benefits
>europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/researchers-say-frequent-ejaculation-could-save-mens-lives/news-story/dedd2ce2cb85c9cf6ff67f24c455dbe5
>webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation

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your bot is late, is it because the word "porn" or "fap" wasn't in the title?

>how come masturbation is different from sex

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1) It sets your brain to accept certain standards in terms of body image, which leads into a cycle of self-loathing and depression countered by masturbating dopamine hit. This cycle is highly addictive.

2) It makes people compliant with their miserable, depressed lives and lazy to make any change. You could argue that this is jacking off in general but when I used to jack off to porn I was, "well this is my life now", but when I jack off to the thought of someones pussy that I know bent of backwards telling me to stick it in then I aspire to be in that situation.

3) Porn companies are 99% owned by jews, nothing they do is for the good of the people.

if you spend more than 5 hours a week lifting and dont make money out of it you're a gymcell loser

Fucks up your ability to understand normal sexuality.
It manipulates you into a narrative and slowly pushes your normal sexuality into something extreme and fucked up.
The dopamine release will in time completely numb you to all other fruitful attempts at earning dopamine. Like work, hobbies, taking care of yourself, getting real pussy.
It will over time numb you to actual sex.
If you are circumcised(you poor bastard)then it will speed up and worsen ketanization that should happen in your late 30's early 40s.
It's also training you to become a passive observer in your life. Like most easy to access dopamine producing things. Except porn is the most potent.

That's just off the top of my head.
Porn is very dangerous.
And there is a reason why easy access to actual sex was gotten rid of by the government user.
"helping the poor runaways" my ass. Even the people who say they are helped by the nsa and escort ads online said it did nothing but make it worse and most escorts are forced back onto the streets where it's 1000 times more dangerous for them.
....
But I digress.

I want to fuck a fem boy in his asshole. While he jacks his tiny dick off and cums all over his stomach and bolt on titties.
I want to look at his eyes as he moans like a complete retard, trying to sound like a woman, but it sounds gross and stupid. I want to think, "is this my life?".
Then I want to cum in his ass. Lift his ass in the air and suck my cum out of his gaping bitch asshole. Suck his testicles. Then suck his flaccid cock.
Lick the cum off.
I will take him home to his parents house. Kiss him on the lips. Watch his asscheeks hang out of the whore skirt he's wearing and watch his head explode when he reaches his doorstep.
No witnesses left alive. I aint fucking gay.
I only fuck ladyboys to survive. To suppress my ptsd from prison.
I cannot fuck women. I must fuck cock. Or I will kill again.

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30 hours into nofap and i'm literally dying inside.
how can i stop the boredom from consuming my mind?

Play an instrument

Seek out an activity and stick to it for half an hour. For example, decide that you want to watch a series, AniMay, or perhaps read a Mangaka-katana. If you are not a weeb, you could also read for example, a literature book, in order to spend time.

You have to seek out things in which you perform the actions immediately and become immersed in them. Unfortunately for me, I have lost my passion for things, and cannot find the motivation to do things other than fuck around on the web and waste time. If the time was only spend slightly productively, or at least on a hobby of sorts, it would be a little better. Oh well. Such is the life.

Learn how to draw or write something.

It’s not bad for you unless you do it in extreme excess (which a lot of people here do, as a symptom of their general internet/porn reliance).

I stopped fapping just so I could blow huge loads when I have sex. I feel the same day to day.

how are you bored from nofap??? did you spend a lot of time watching porn/jerking off?

Anyone else only get the urge to fap at night?

I don't think about it whatsoever during the day, but the moment I get into bed the urge overtakes me and I feel like I have to

It aint fucking funny.

This. Make a thing where you want to spend for example 1 hour a day drawing, or something. But then, in a big twist, perhaps you are engulfed in the activity, absorbed by it, and more time is spent. This allows you, if you challenge yourself, to become better at the activity than before, in turn allowing you to create even better artwork. This is a brilliant way to spend time, as it is relatively productive, due to the undeniable fact that you are in fact producing something. Yes. For I must say, it truly is a good time when you have created a drawing with which you are happy. Truly, the most ubiquitous sense of purpose is the purpose induced by the grave request of the creation of artwork.

like twice a day... or more.
i want to stop because the kind of porn i watch keeps getting more degenerate.

i guess i will paint a bit...

congrats, you missed the entire point of nofap in the first place

Yeah, the only thing you can do with shit like that is ridicule it.
It's just terribly written gay agenda "TRY HOMOSEX" bullshit that's infesting Jow Forums and most social media and pop media if you actually pay attention.

I'm a triple distilled extra virgin (metaphorically), I haven't spoken to a girl my age in years and have zero prospects to be in a relationship in the coming [insert long time here]. Give me one reason not to beat my meat once a week to porn when I'm bored out of my mind. I actually really enjoy it, and have never slipped past vanilla stuff.

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kek

porn is the only problem

You could be developing a hobby or new skill that improves yourself rather than devolve into a beast beating off

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>and have zero prospects to be in a relationship in the coming [insert long time here]
Why not? You literally just go outside. I haven't been in a real relationship in 8 years. I was so out of practice that one day I said fuck it and installed tinder. I didn't use it for one night stands, just to take a girl out on a date and if we got along cool, if not, also no biggie.

Preys on the constant exposure, lives one hundred percent off the exposure. Its greatest power is the confusion, but the confusion goes away within a few days, a few weeks or a few months depending on how much your retarded reptile brain has been exposed to it.

Brains always go back to default if given the chance. And that's a good thing, because it's the default that got us to where we are now. 90% of men are dominant if given decent success in life and abstinence from outside sources. 90% of men have no confusion with their gender or anything. It's all induced, and it can all be cleansed. Freedom is within reach, but not all will try. The awake brain must want it first, and if the awake brain does not want it, well then you are lost... These things, they cannot touch the awake brain. They do not chance the awake brain. You and I, everyone affected knows this. They know, regardless of how many times they are influenced by it, that it is wrong, and not who they truly are. And this, this is what your brain will return to. The man you truly are. If you only let it. For nofap, nofap is the cure. But actions are the antidote. Yes, the actions, the actions define who we are. The actions replace the void left by the dwindled, rotting, automated responses from the brain, as they dwindle with the abstinence. They are nothing but a virus, a virus that feeds off of addiction, and needs constant sustenance. It can be starved. The viruses can all be starved.

stop writing fucking walls of autistic text you fucking autiust

What the fuck lmao

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learn to read

masturbation: reward with no work
sex: reward for work.

Orgasm the most powerful dopamine release for humans, the moment you start getting it with no work, no effort, you start ditching social interaction and meaningful activities for spending the day alone masturbating and playing games closed in your room.
As long as you are masturbating 1~5 times a week WITHOUT porn you are fine.

What the fuck? And I thought I was autistic.

>not being hotter than pornstars
pathetic
i fap daily and fuck daily
im horny all the time

>find yourself staring at 50 year old women and getting a boner

I fap like 3 times a day and I still get boners like that

>this is your brain on porn

no no, he's got a point. but he probably has some issues with his brain from watching so much porn

Yeah, a mental memetic virus like media induced psychotic homosexuality/bisexuality/transexuality however leaves fingerprints.

The very idea of "just try it, experiment, if you don't you'll never be sure, regret it forever, you are (insert sexuality/sex they are trying to push here)you're just repressing" will leave marks that never truly go away.

The very idea that you'll go back to normal because it's the default is a way for them to let people believe that they can do anything and get away with it. That everything will be "alright" in the end.

But that's not true. If you even say that doing things leaves marks that will never go away ever and that what you think and do matters and you can't just fix stupid decisions that are pushed as normal or courageous or hip then the people who use that to manipulate others will have an outright fucking fit.

Go on.
Tell people that allowing their children to get obese and eat horrifyingly bad food and circumcisions and birth control and just letting them gorge on easy mind ruining dopamine sources will leave permanent scars that will never fully heal.

We can fix these things and learn to deal with the fallout once we are aware of them. But the damage is already done in nearly every case.

Pushing experimentation along with "born this way" and gay is genetic is just a way to push and manipulate people into LGBTQA.

fuck off kike

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Actual sex is bad for you iff it's not someone you care about.
It must have meaning. Masturbation is irredeemably meaningless, whereas sex CAN have meaning.

Actions are more powerful than pornography ever will be. You starve the monster till it's weak, then REPLACE it with healthy sexual experiences with real people...
In a way, you're right. If you act on them, they're not going away. But the fantasies and fetishes entirely induced by porn, and not acted upon can be beaten to a pulp. My aware brain is as clear as day on what I want, like and do not like. There is no confusion. This all comes from the back of it.

Some are beyond saving. But most aren't.

>Ever seen how much you cum when you fuck a woman compared to when you just fap?
Haha y-yeah

If this doesn't then nofap threads should also stop because they're the same thing.

I abhor fapping to porn, however I feel it is healthy to stimulate an erection at least once a day. Too many times have I heard of anons cocks shriveling because of nofap. Get and erection once a day (I still get morning wood every day) and stretch out those blood vessels.

>tfw you fap to yourself in the mirror
Am I porn?

Literally fuck off kike.

Nah, high test move dude. Narcissism is attractive because women have no self esteem.

Based and redpilled.

too many comments saying porn is the problem and nofap is bullshit.

Well my friend, 99% of fappers watch porn. If you dont you would masterbyte every weeks or so, but not as frequent as it is nowdays.

So yeah, nofap may be bullshit, but it does help.

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exactly. half the kike antistudies focus on masturbation too, you ask "is porn a problem?" and get the answer "masturbation is healthy" in response, like they don't know that 99% of people fapping use porn. fucking kike bastards..

>falling for the GMOs are bad meme

Actually, the only bad thing is EXCESSIVE masturbation (the kind you do when you don't get laid) and the gulit or low you feel after doing it (that literally decreases your testosterone - yes it's mental). So yeah, a guy that gets laid is also expected to live a happier and more importantly healthier life ( he has a gf because he isn't a fat fuck or stuffs his mouth with shit food and has acne and maybe actually goes to the gym). Sex and masturbation can be just as bad if done excessively. It's mostly the loss of semen and the zinc in it. Also, when you masturbate you activate the parasympathethic nervous system way more ( you don't feel the chemicals you feel when you're with another person) so maybe because you release so much extra cortisol and other stress hormones you also get shit sleep. But still, it's mostly diet. Eat onions and don't eat any sugar or estrogenic foods like cabbage and nuts and your testosterone will go through the roof. Iodine salt too. Do this and you'll be able to fap up to 10 times a day

Not completely related and I'm also new to this board, but why everytime I check on the internet all the results say that masturbation has no negative effects on gains? You literally waste proteins, how could it not be negative?

Found the hebrew

Because porn is the main issue. Why? Because porn leads to excessive masturbation. 1-2 faps a week won't matter much at all if your diet is on point. Multiple times a day however is super taxing.

I think most athletes don't masturbate. There's something to that. Athletic performance and abstinence. Tyson, probably Ali, etc. None fapped in their prime, I bet.

Til I’m a gymcel loser

1.Because there is a lot of money in making sure that you continue to fap/allow yourself to be turned on by sexual imagery and porn

2.Most of the people saying it has no effect are habitual fappers and shills. It's been proven to have an effect that lowers your ability to make gainz

3.The other half of the people saying it are on steroids. So...their testosterone comes from a bottle. It's not produced naturally anymore.

> and don't eat any sugar or estrogenic foods like cabbage and nuts and your testosterone will go through the roof
wat

It about porn. The original ted talk was about viewing porn. Porn is harmful because of the coolidge effect.

This is true. I know it’s time to JO if I start swiping on black women on tinder