So basically I saw an article about Muhammad Ali and Bruce Lee

This Ali was a heavyweight, Lee weighed like 135 lbs if not less

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Fuck off retard.

Bruce Lee was a decent martial artist sure, but he wasn't a world class fighter. Ali was one of the best fighters in the world at the time, there's no question there.

Asking this question is like asking if Eddie Hall would out lift Arnold Schwarzenegger on deadlifts. Both of them lift weights but one is a world class strong man and one was a world class bodybuilder.

Lee would kill him in less than one minute. Nigger boy gets him 5 times out of 100

yo retard he took any challenger from across the planet.

"It is almost impossible for a trained man to lose to a nigger. Almost impossible." -Bruce Lee, 1977

Traditional martial arts get btfo by boxing wrestling bjj etc. Lee gets clapped by Ali

except lee wasn't doing traditional martial arts he included everything except grappling

>"It is almost impossible for a trained man to lose to a nigger. Almost impossible." -Bruce Lee, 1977
jamie pull that up. Whats a zionist bro?

kek

Yeah because JKD doesn't use Boxing at all

youtu.be/Jrdnay_7H8c

youtube.com/watch?v=_Yf-Cpvvucs

people dont know because the jews killed him

If they actually said that Lee was an overhyped actor, they were blowing smoke out of their ass. His take on martial arts gravitated towards the practicality of boxing anyway, he was a great debunker of martial arts bullshit and the weeb ideal of shit genes being magically transformed into unbeatable master through fucking... Zumba dances.

Still, he was 5'8 and Ali was a heavyweight champion. Even if Ali was a draft-dodging faggot outside of that, he was still a pure practical, stupidly skilled champion, so the training difference is negligible and the advantage overwhelming.

Boxing is not the same as fighting, Bruce Lee trained to jab with his fingers, ya know, to blind you. Any man who underestimated him for a second in a real fight with no rules would risk being maimed.

we get it... you are black

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>Source: My ass

Smarmy retort for someone who types like a nigger, and uploads thumbnails to match.

Why would it be easier to hit someones eyes than their face? And why would a fist to your face from a heavyweight boxer be less of a concern for you than some malnourished manlet poking your eyes?

You can invent a martial art and write a book about it without having trained one day in your life. How is that impressive?

Because If you methodically train to be able to smash your fingers into someones eye then you will be able to do it. But that's not really the point, big nig trained to hit people hard to knock them out, chink chong trained to viciously attack them like a crazed psychopath.

That doesn't work in real fights, especially on someone like a boxer who is trained to bob their head around and dodge hits/and take hits. There's a massive difference between a trained professional fighter and a martial artist that doesn't train to fight. Muhammad Ali was a 6'3 200+ pound man and Bruce Lee was 5'7 130 pound man. I don't think you seem to grasp that Bruce Lee was not a fighter, the fights in his movies and fancy stunts are not real fights. Ali also fought in "mixed martial arts" (against wrestlers and similar styles) fights and was extremely successful against them. I also indulge you to get in the ring with any professional level heavyweight boxer and continue to believe "they're not fighters".

>his martial art is made to overwhelm someone who has an advantage in height/weight with speed and skill
Every martial art involves speed and skill

>When Lee and Norris initially met there was a lot of animosity and there were rumors on set that Lee might back out of the movie. He was very upset with Bob Wall (director) - someone had told him Norris was an up-and-coming black actor. "I did not make it this far to be on screen with an ape," Lee was rumored to say to several producers. Upon meeting Norris and seeing he was a white man, however, they began an immediate friendship until his death in 1973. "I'm not a nigger! I'm not a nigger!" Norris repeatedly said, to cheers from the other cast members.

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Ali was a much better boxer, a heavyweight and actually fought though

he broke his back with a 140 lbs good morning, i like bruce a lot but i cant see how 140 lbs are dangerous in any way unless you are a cripple grandpa

Bruce Lee wasn't a trained fighter, he was a dancer and actor that practiced martial arts. He did not professionally fight people, I don't know where you get this notion that his martial arts were effective on people, as again he was not a trained fighter.

>Bruce Lee was not a fighter
Didn't Bruce literally take part in street fights in his youth, then professional fights all through adulthood?

of course ali would win, he's a nigger.

he'd just shoot him.

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>Because If you methodically train to be able to smash your fingers into someones eye then you will be able to do it.
And all these pro boxers with much longer reach than Bruce Lee never trained to hit someone in the head or why did they miss Ali? Trying to poke someones eyes isn't magically different than trying to punch someone. And consider the fact that Ali is much better at punching, dodging and has much longer reach as Bruce. That manlet would get knocked out before his tiny hands even got close to Ali.

>But that's not really the point, big nig trained to hit people hard to knock them out, chink chong trained to viciously attack them like a crazed psychopath.
This is absolutely delusional, I bet you are some white kid who owns a katana and is a badass in his daydreams.

Street fights in his youth yes, but those are literally just kids beating each other over food. He didn't professionally fight and wasn't a trained martial artist until his adulthood.

>not a trained fighter
>martial artist that doesn't train to fight
All his books are about fighting, he did nothing but train

Well people usually aren't trained in their profession until they are adults.

>Didn't Bruce literally take part in street fights in his youth
Doesn't mean jack shit, do you think those retards on worldstar could beat any pro fighter?

>then professional fights all through adulthood?
Name one opponent he beat

There's no doubt that lee was a skilled martial artist and one of the fastest out there, but Ali was extremely fast AND had almost a foot on Lee. Lee vs some kind of bodybuilder, sure, but Ali won more legitimate fights and isn't a lumbering beast, he's an equally badass fighter and would likely win.

Fake and Gay.

You obviously don't understand how martial arts work, most martial arts are not Combat Sports. The majority of martial artists do not train to be professional fighters. They train and practice the martial art, they do not actively participate in fights, it's not like in the movies. Again, I don't understand where you've picked up this notion that he was actively beating the shit out of people professionally.

>he did nothing but train
Doesn't mean shit, there are tons of figthers who never really make it who train all day.

Pro fighters are athletes, they typically start training at a very young age and their careers end much earlier than average. In boxing you are lucky if you make it to 40. It's absolutely ridiculous to compare them to your average 9 to 5 job.

bruce lee was a celebrity actor, all his achievements are made up and theres no source for anything

No, he literally didn't partake in martial arts until he was in his 20's. He was in and out of the US and China, and was a full time student until he dropped out. He had learned how to dance, and traded dance lessons for martial arts lessons.

So your saying training to kill someone doesn't make you good at killing them but training to box makes you good at boxing?

>let me hear your opinion Jow Forums?
Wrestling is the single most important skill in a street fight. I reckon Ali was a much better wrestler, simply being in America vs Japan, and he was much larger.
It wouldn't have even been close.

>with speed and skill
Yeah, Ali was known for being slow and unskilled.

He didn't train to kill anyone, when did he actually kill people? He trained a martial art, and used it preform stunts in movies, it's not that hard to understand. HE WAS AN ACTOR NOT A TRAINED FIGHTER.

The difference between combat sports and your 'deadly' weeb martial arts is that the former has fierce competition, elite athletes and rigorous training and the latter is a bunch of scrawny or overweight wimps who are too afraid to get hit in the face to join a boxing gym. You are just playing play pretend and try to look like a badass.

>Doesn't mean shit, there are tons of figthers who never really make it who train all day.
>this methodical psychopath that does nothing but train ant shit
Ali would go in then lee would kick him in the nuts then gouge his eyes out

>people think a actor can beat a actual boxer twice his size
kek
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>this methodical psychopath that does nothing but train ant shit
Except for shooting movies, writing books and training for movie stunts kek

No in his books he shows how most effectively disable someone, like smashing their nuts and kicking them in the liver, shit like that

Ali's arms were longer than Lee's legs, he had far superior reach. Assuming he could even get close to Ali, he would get dropped easily as he wasn't trained to take hits from a 6'3 200+ world champion heavyweight boxer.

>ali stands back
>bruce goes in for a kick
>gets btfo in one punch
No chance.

>chink vs nig
I’ve browsed enough pol to know who wins

It's just delusional idiots who haven't trained a day in their lives. I always get triggered when people act like he was the greatest martial artist ever.

You realize that's common sense stuff correct? Those are extremely basic concepts and are in most martial arts and combat sports. The main difference is that he didn't actually practise any of that on other people.

>smashing their nuts and kicking them in the liver
Truely groundbreaking stuff lmao

Your dead wrong though, I went to a full contact mixed martial art class, it had all different types of people and we beat the shit out of each other and we only used mma gloves, in the advanced class some of the insane people fought bear fist with just mouth peaces. I saw one guy get his nose smashed sideways.

6'1" 290 here. I'd knock that chinks head off desu

Ali would crush Bruce Lee, Ali just has to much of a size and power advantage and he’s fast as fuck. One good hit and it’s all over.

>professional fights all through adulthood?
Not a single one

Simple Test
Name one skilled fighter that ali has beaten
Now
Name one skilled fighter bruce lee has beaten

Then it was combat sports retard, not strictly martial arts.

Congrats on sparring once in your life, that's something you do on a regular basis in every actual martial art. Training like an idiot also doesn't make you a more skilled martial artist, just fyi.

Nah we didn't learn combat sports in that class, we may have sparred that way but the instructor did nothing but train to kill people all day, just like every other martial artist does and people who train like that are extremely dangerous to any human being whether they be athlete or not.

aint even a real martial artist

Not looking for recognition, just saying hes wrong because personal experience

Martial Arts don't train to kill people, but this isn't 1200 bc or something dude. A Combat Sport is where you actively take part in Combat against an opponent, like you did in class. No one was training you to kill someone else.

Cringe

We practiced how to kill each other with fake knives bro, the instructor taught us how to eviscerate people.

How is it cringe? His method of self defense was cause as much harm as possible as quickly as possible, I would think that be logical. Most of it was disable then choke to death.

Ali in his prime was like 6’4 with a decent reach with cat like reflexes and the stamina of a horse. Bruce lee is a hyped action star who hasn’t no verified feats

he was 6'2

Even lee said ali would kill him

Also, he didn't create shit and most of his books were plagiarized.

No arguing with leefags. Even though he has no professional record to speak of everyone swears that he can destroy any human bean 1-on-1 regardless of skill/size/strength/experience. If you use any facts to justify your choice they will tell you about how he could do 1000 handstand jumping jacks or his special eardrum popping head clap technique. They will then tell you about how he fought off emaciated 5'0 foot-tall chinks on a daily basis when he was a teenager.

street fight: bruce lee all the way
boxing max: ali all the way

So one thing I never see brought up here is Muhammad's lack of ground game

In a striking match, I'd say Ali wins 99% of the time; he's a goddamn destroyer, even without kicks. That being said, I don't believe he trained in anything other than boxing.

If I remember correctly, Lee hated grappling, but pushed himself to learn it effectively. Considering grapplers beat strikers (who know little about grappling) almost every time, despite size difference, it seems to follow that a street match might go to Lee.

I remember when Ali was supposed to make his wrestling debut against some Japanese grappler, and, knowing that Ali'ed get stomped if actual grappling was involved, banned it. It ended up looking like this:

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Because as boring as boxing may seem, it's very effective. I mean Ali was great, but he was mostly famous for being a showboater. The Hitman Hearnes and Duran were better in their time. And nobody competes with the King Bruiser, Rocky Marciano... 49-0 the only undefeated heavyweight champion of the world. The Brockton Blockbuster would've annihilated Bruce Lee.

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>practice
>fake knives

Yeah dude, you're not a trained killer. Maybe 0.001% of the human population has purposefully taken another adults life, and only a fraction of those people have trained to do so efficiently with multiple body counts.

Ali was 6'3", 236 lbs. Lee was 5'7", 128 lbs. Any sport that has weight classes has them for a reason. In ANY sport with weight classes, even the slightest advantage in weight is a big deal. Just about EVERY fighting sport is weight class based. It's one thing if it's Bruce Lee vs an untrained guy of that size, but this is arguably the greatest boxer of all time. He was insanely fast, pretty strong, and did I mention he was retardedly fast?

>both sides r stupid

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I hate nigs as much as the next guy but holy fuck Bruce would get killed against Ali lmao

>130lb guy will beat 240 lb guy cuz he knows a little about grabbling

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ya but you said they don't train to kill people when we did. I'm just saying we trained to kill each other with fake knives that still hurt like a motherfucker and one of the knives was literally fucking shocked you. that's like the best training tool and method to get good at knife fights.
>You don't train bro, your not a killer bro
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>See: all of early UFC

Bruce Lee himself said Muhammad Ali would beat him in a fight. Ali was so much bigger than Lee. If you wanna choose a random pre-UFC Asian martial artist to beat Ali in a fight, why not pro wrestler Antonio Inoki?

Royce Gracie was a a really good BJJ specialist, Bruce Lees grappling was shit. So you can't really compare that.

>knife fights
>yeah bro some guy stops 20 feet in front of me and draws his knife expecting me to not have a knife or know how to knife fight???? Lol thats when I draw my knife and show him whats what

If I had a knife and I wanted to mug/kill you why would I put myself in a position where you could easily react? Why wouldn't I just hid behind a dumpster at night and jump you? Knife fights don't happen dude, irl ain't Commando or Resident Evil 4. There are just too many variables and murder doesn't follow mcdojo sparring scenarios. You've been bullshitted by martial artists and Hollywood.

Because inoki was a legit catch wrestler who trained under karl gotch and is fucking huge.

Either lee gets ktfo or snapped

Still much taller than that Manlet