Is the prevalence of overweight and obesity ever going to decline significantly in the US?

Is the prevalence of overweight and obesity ever going to decline significantly in the US?

There's a website where people make predictions about the future, and they have a question about overweight/obesity in the US in the year 2030. People say it will be exactly the same as it is today. (metaculus.com/questions/1482/what-percentage-of-americans-will-be-considered-obese-or-overweight-in-2030/).

Are things really this hopeless, Jow Forums? Can we ever win the war on fat?

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4191896/
npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/04/11/301794415/gassy-cows-are-warming-the-planet-and-theyre-here-to-stay
theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/29/methane-emissions-cattle-11-percent-higher-than-estimated
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Nah. Fatties gonna fat

I hope not. I love the obesity epidemic. Increases my value of being fit

nah

It also makes trims the amount of datable women to like 10%

>not being in long fulfilling committed relationships with BBW's

yeah but it makes food and insurance so expensive.

Predicting that obesity won't grow is naively optimistic.

Increases your insurance premiums and your tax burden via Medicare/Medicaid, too.

*blocks your path

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the smell

If you're american, a massive part of your paycheck is taken away (under threat of incarceration) and given to grain companies so they can make very inexpensive cheetos to sell to the poor.

Being sedentary and eating junk food is the new normal. I don't see this changing.

How to combat this? I think we should have caps of how much sugar and calories per 100g of food. Taxes on sugar as well. Phasing some shit otu and banning others. People are lazy and stupid, and this will never change.

*stench

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What exactly do they think they're going to do if a real conflict starts?

All their opponents would need to do is cut off their insulin supplies and they'll be dead in a few weeks.

Why is it the vast majority of people who go out of their way to denounce nazism fascism or just even anything right wing, are physically pathetic and support communism and other lefty shit? This fat fuck most definitely can't do a single push up, but wishes for a communist revolution.

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You could say they're "standing up" against ((((fascism))))

People on the far right and far left are losers who are attracted to a simple ideology that they can adopt with zero effort to make themselves interesting.

Option 1:
>I am a fat loser who's accomplished nothing in my life.

vs.

Option 2:
>I am a soldier in this grand battle taking place over the world. I am special and important, and way better than those around me.

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Oh, and it's the same reason people call themselves vegan (100% of vegans are mentally ill weirdos and losers) and used to call themselves atheist, or whatever the meme philosophy of the day is.

If you got these people in shape, you'd do a lot to fix their insecurities, and their politics would likely moderate.

This. The obesity epidemic is nothing but good shit for me
>more retarded fatass cows to make fun of
>Increased value of fitness
>More fetish material
>Easier lays
>cheaper bulking food
>(some) cheaper drugs

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Yes, and no.

Obesity won't decline because people magically stop overindulging, but we will eventually be able to chemically control our weight and body composition.

Humans are made to get fat. Eating keeps you alive, and things that keep you alive feel good. Eating feels good. Things that taste good taste good, and the things that taste good are the most energy-dense, most nutritious things there are to eat. So it follows that people eat lots of energy-dense food, and when the body has an energy surplus it tucks that away as fat. It's what we're built and wired to do. Not doing this is possible, of course, but it's an exercise in willpower that most people don't bother to engage in because why would they?

However, the body is made of levers and if you pull the right levers you can get whatever result you want. Until now we have been doing this fairly crudely, but the pace ever quickens. Imagine a pill you could take which reduces your digestive function by 50%. You get 50% of the calories from food, and your shits become 50% larger. Or a different pill, where your body stores excess calories as muscle instead of fat - no working out required. etc. etc. This is all science-fiction, but it's all doable if you know how. I don't expect to see it in my lifetime, but someone will see it eventually.

In the fullness of time we will all be 10/10 aesthetic Gods that barely resemble actual human beings, and people will become increasingly vain and superficial as they struggle to distinguish between a 10/10 and a 9.999999/10. The dividing lines between manlets and lanklets, or jocks and nerds, etc. etc., will become increasingly trivial and petty. All of this will be achieved with zero effort, and nobody appreciates things that they get for free.

Humans are disgusting creatures no matter their form. When they are natural they are ugly and base, and when they are refined they are petty and supercilious. Fat or thin doesn't matter. Both are disgusting.

in short: fatties gonna fat

People who cave into extreme ideologies are usually missing something in their lives and expect some revolution will save them (it wont). Extreme ideologies are also a great cope. On the far left they tell you that your opinion is more important if you're female/LBGT/brown/whatever and that's really attractive if you're a fat lesbian failure who isn't making it in life with your worthless liberal arts degree and want to feel important. Same goes for the fat fucks and gangly losers who fall for alt-right nazi faggotry, because they'd rather hear that they're part of a master race with a great destiny than hear that they wasted their chance at success and happiness by playing 10,000 collective hours of video games during some of the most important years of their life.

He wants to feel righteous and important by fighting the nazi boogieman. If "Nazis" were real and not LARPers though I don't think they'd take him in as a member of their master race.

I think it will. The biggest underlying factor is the shit food. Everything is loaded with carbs. Keto is becoming more and more popular. There's a HUGE market for it, and capitalism will turn its head and see dollar signs. That's when more momentum will build and the demand for non-GMO, non-hormone injected, grass-finished beef, pasture raised chickens, wild caught fish will hit critical mass. Demand for grain and shitty corn products will drop, and desire for food that doesn't contain shit-tons of MSG, nitrates and sugar will increase. Once we're there we'll see that people will start losing weight even if they don't move around much. They won't be a fit-fag, but those with pre-diabetes and type-2 diabetes will see a gigantic overhaul of their blood sugars. Pretty much it'll be a win-win, though the price for food will go up significantly. That said, I'd rather pay for better food than pay letter with medication and hospital bills.

Have you ever met a person in real life?

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We need to exterminate the obese population and use their corpses to solve the energy crisis

>because they'd rather hear that they're part of a master race with a great destiny than hear that they wasted their chance at success and happiness by playing 10,000 collective hours of video games during some of the most important years of their life.
I did that(and still am), luckily I didn't fall for extremist shit

Exactly because they want everything to be given to them and everyone to be "equal". That way the overachievers and the underachievers (them) will have the same value. It's a way to bring everyone else down to their level.

Humans burn poorly.

Holy shit it's blue pill incarnate

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Low IQ psychoanalysis tbqh user.

Believe what you will.

Based eco-fascist

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Eh, who cares? As long as someone sincerely supports the 14 words than they’re ok in my mind.

Bad leftists are leftists because they're envious. They have an inflated sense of their own worth and get mad that "others" are getting what "they" deserve.

Good leftists are leftists because they perceive exploitation, unfairness, and/or harm stemming from the hierarchical and competitive economic-political system we inhabit and want to stop that.

Neither are leftists because they want to "bring everyone else down to their level."

You shouldn't talk about things that you don't know anything about.

t. actual communist.

Half of the US has a double digit IQ
it’s only going to get worse

Its not worth your time arguing with people on here about what actually are leftist views. You're pissing in the wind

I'm about 5 seconds away from driving to Hungry Jack's and buying shitty fast food that will make me feel disgusting, and the only thing that can stop that from happening is if I get into an internet fight that's big and acerbic enough to distract me from my cravings.

But I'm aware of the futility.

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Grommunism

Fuck off (((leftypol)))

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I really can't imagine gen z and below won't get their shit together, I just can't. Even if they don't tho, at some point someone someone is going to make the perfect appetite suppressant/fat burning supplement/fat deposition halter/etc and fatties won't even have to try. Also modified gene babbies, robot bodies, etc.

iktf

but also this. fug.

im in a simulation and want out

LET ME THE FUCK OUT

>Aussie commie
Hello Mr.Melbourne degenerate

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BRISVEGAS.

ngmi

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is that really him on the left?

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Even the dog is fat.

What's wrong that normal-looking woman 2nd from the right in the front row though? She passes for human. Does she have severe autism or somethin?

>even reddit spaced
wow you chapofags sure love fighting online and going out of your safespace to do it huh
Post body

Poor dog.

Don't @ me bby. I was redditspacing before you even knew Jow Forums existed.

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Probably came for the crafts/arts section, probably never went to another reddit meetup ever again

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Too bad that the US government gives out 5-7 billion annually on corn subsidies, which is used in everything like start and corn sugar

Hitler did nothing wrong.

see

>pol shitting on plebbit
>plebbit shitting on 4chins
i unironically don't know what the fuck the difference is

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oh no no no
wasn't this the one that was squatting int he smith machine with that menacingly cringey smile

Exactly. The US subsidizes the production of soft drinks and various other poisons, then New York taxes them for health reasons, because Iowa is a critical state for elections. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Opiates? Have as many as you like, suburban, low-income, heavily unemployed counties.

McFatties thrives pumping fat fucks full of subsidized shit beef and chickens coated in oil.

Urban planning is done specifically for cars, lest anyone ever walk to their workplace. What a shit country.

Anyone going to an online meet-up is cancer, but that's still a massive step-up compared to the reddit pic.

Yes. Think that's the one in the avocado picture too.

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I feel vegan issue is more similar to slavery.

Can you own another person.
Can you own another animal.

Similar question.

some real communism would do wonders for them

kek.

yeah, when they develop the obesity pill for the mass market

The only people attracted to veganism are weirdos, sorry mate. And they focus entirely on the ethical issue, and ignore that the nutrition is super difficult. They end up like twig people.

Meat eating might be seen like slavery in the future, in the past it was normal to hang black people for no reason. Probably would be a weirdo if you thought it was wrong.

Not drinking alcohol is also weird.

On that vegan in general live longer than meat eaters. There is no study on vegans that show them living less on average than the normal population, they tend to have a longer lifespan and suffer less heart attacks. On twig people, its probably better to be thin than obese.

Technology will 100% solve our moral problems, like it always has. Meat will be produced in factories and labs with no animals killed. We may even end up banning animal slaughter eventually. Just don't rush it.

It doesn't matter or change the fact that only really weirdos are attracted to veganism. First, your life has to be super comfortable for you to even give a shit about random moral quandries. Most peopl just try to survive.

>On that vegan in general live longer than meat eaters. There is no study on vegans that show them living less on average than the normal population,

Veganism has been around for like 20 years tops. How in the hell is there gonna be a study on that shit? Veganism is at best totally untested, at worst unhealthy.

Anyone else hope it gets higher? My more fatter people means my son and daughter will be seen as more attractive, will have less competition to be top athletes in their respective groups.. all of it. My family will always be in great shape, and thus on top of the social American food chain

or if AOC ever gets elected president/free gibs

You got it backwards man. The pro-capitalists want the businesses to just sel whatever they want (cheap junk food garbage) and to make big profits. It's the progressives who want big regulations to reign this shit in. It was Michael Bloomberg for instance that limited the size of drinks in NYC. There's no direct progressive consensus on what kind of regulations, but they're gonna do something.

They might cap the g of sugar per can.

This is the study
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4191896/

There a large population of religious people in America that are vegan/vegetarian. They are also heavily studied in terms of health.

If most people are obese they aren't really struggling to survive. They might even lose weight if they go vegan.

I feel random moral quandries do matter.

>that are vegan/vegetarian.

Can't conflate those. Vegetarianism has thousands of years of history, and they incorporate milk and eggs into their diet. It makes sense. Veganism is untested weird shit. I guarantee you 90% of vegans don't get enough protein.

We might never win, bros.

I'm conflicted

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4191896/

Did you read the study
"The adjusted HR for all-cause mortality in vegans was 0.85 "

Pretty large sample of people studied. Only fish eaters seem to be healthier than vegans.

Eating fish is interesting. I think you can get the same benefits taking DHA and flaxseeds. But, I'm not 100% sure of this.

based and redpilled

I have never been fat and I am fully aware of how insignificant I am in the scope of life and the universe, anything else?

>I feel random moral quandries do matter.
Pathetic.

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Der Untermensch

The average Fitizen could probably take that entire crew on even if they all came at once. A single punch anywhere and these fat fucks are either heading to the hospital or KFC to drown their tears in gravy.

my heart

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You know they'd fuck it up and try to tax meat thinking fruit (sugar) and vegetables (s o y) are obviously better. Don't forget how cow farts are killing the atmosphere!

>Don't forget how cow farts are killing the atmosphere!

Cows do belch out huge amounts of methane though. It's a big chunk of global warming gasses. This is why I can't wait until we get cultured meat going on a big industrial scale. Get a nice big meat paddy, without the stupid useless cow attached to it. Massive increase in efficiency and significantly reduced waste.

npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/04/11/301794415/gassy-cows-are-warming-the-planet-and-theyre-here-to-stay

theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/29/methane-emissions-cattle-11-percent-higher-than-estimated

Emissions from livestock account for only around 3% of total emissions in the US. Plant agriculture is around 2.6%. Meat isn't fucking the planet and allowing ruminants to roam and replenish spent soil does more to sequester carbon than they're given credit for.

Meanwhile frankenmeat requires a fuckton of energy to yield subpar meat and has no positive effect on soil regeneration. It's a fucking retarded idea that's given too much credit. All because you don't have to kill cattle to make a meal.

>Is the prevalence of overweight and obesity ever going to decline significantly in the US?

No, just the life expectancy. Sedentary lifestyles, overabundant, subsidized corn syrup and widespread use of preservatives aren't going anywhere.

The US imports and exports beef, which in addition to having external costs (foreign beef) also has the emissions associated with shipping that may not be factorered.

Because leftist ideology worships weakness. If people got strong, mentally or physically, then there'd be less reliance on the collective.

The solution to this is invariably to kneecap anyone who's doing well and give it to the poor performers based on immutable group characteristics. You're not as clever as you think you are.

who is this

>The solution to this is invariably to kneecap anyone who's doing well and give it to the poor performers based on immutable group characteristics.
That wouldn't solve anything.

>You're not as clever as you think you are.
I'm exactly as clever as I think I am.

If someone invents a sugar substitute that tastes good, is low calories, and doesn't cause cancer then people wouldn't be so far.

Oh wait they did

it didn't change shit

nevermind

The war on fat is a personal struggle, every man must win or lose it himself.

It's going to take a war to turn this shit around

Obesity was becoming a thing in Japan until they started taxing them and passively shaming fatasses.

But hey it's Amerishit where feelings>everything so good luck.

It's free socialism welfare and fulfills their need to feel righteous to disguise the fact that they are fat pieces of shit.

The 1 major factor to the sheer amount of obesity is the overally processed fake food. The exercise, not jogging excuse is not the real reason for the rise in obesity. It contributes but isn't a sole cause.

Literally go to multiple different countries around the world. And see the food selection for the average person. Eastern europe for instance. There is processed food over there like everywhere else in the world. But there is much more real meats, real vegetables that actually go bad in a few days, and markets that have a lot of choice. Even the processed stuff has less flavorings and chemicals added.

Something like Thailand for instance. Even the cheapest food are sourced from farmer markets for ingredients. And street food is usually pretty fresh. The worse food is some insta noodle related food and even that isn't as processed as a typical American grocery store food item.

If the US would stop trying to create all this fake fucking food with an ingredients list longer than Beowulf, the obesity problem wouls near correct itself. Now there is the problem with today's obese parents ruining their kids lives with horrible habits and these foods, so it wouldn't be an immediate effect. But maybe like 2 generations. But not like this shit is going to happen since fake ass mush called "food" is in the best interests of American food companies.

What specifically did they do?