22 and haven't had sex with a girl. ever. at this point marriage isn't looking too bad...

Then nothing fucking happens holy shit don't be delusional, they get hit on every fucking day, they will forget you in5 minutes. Just don't ask them out right away, at least say few neutral sentrncies first, something like the weather is cold or some shit.
To mature women you can say that you are incel and therefore need their help, once you get fucked by mommy gf talking with younger girls won't be so hard, although it's still scary to ask them out, but it worked for me on my first attempt. It's a cute, but chubby girl from work, short hair, glasses and tiny hands, we'll go see aquaman in few days.

I might try it out for a while but if I don't see results after months of effort, I'm out
it's over for me at that point and I'll have to settle with going to work and coming home
It's over. I'm done

Your fear of rejection is crippling you, it's literally the only thing holding you back, never forget that. According to the incels I have tiny wrists, micro dick, pathetic body(fat ass and stomach), 5/10 face and therefore stand no chance.
I hate Peterson, but in one of his videos he says you should go get rejected on purpose, by asking random women straight away for their numbers to get rid of fear and this is the kind of thing you need to do.

>something like comic-con might work though
No. Those "shy, nerdy" girls are the worst kind, don't fall for their trap.

You have a point. If I don't keep asking them out, I'll never get laid. I just hope my spirit stays high
It's either that or stay at home til I go to work. anyways, Thanks user!

22 is VERY young, don't forget that even if you will fail for a year straight. I fucking wish I didn't wait until 25, so many
girls I missed out on, at least now I got the one that fancies my dick, I love intoverted girls with short hair and glasses and pretty, but not whore like face. Fingers crossed she has no children.

>one that fancies my dick
Meant to say one that my dick fancies
Although the former statement is also true, my mature fwb absolutely loves stroking my dick.

So you're cheating on your gf with the fwb?

I don't mind her face as long as she has a nice and thicc body. one or the either. a hot face or a thicc hot body
if I manage to be with one that has both, then I have gotten to the promised land

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Yes, because fwb mommy can't let my dick go, even thiugh she always encourages me to talk with younger girls and is happy I got one, we work together, my date is also from work, one of the few women there younger than 40, I thought she is taken for sure, plenty of chads there.
It's not cheating yet, because we just sat and talked in a bus on a way home, who knows if she won't change her mind about going out. But I will probably keep on being stroked by mommy gf regardless, what's the harm if it will never turn into something serious because she is fucking 50?

Although if it will turn out to be serious, like very serious, I will ask fwb to stop, just to make sure no one at work finds out.

You are right, but for wrong reasons, I don't think women are bitches, I'm a fucking leftist ffs. I don't like hurting women's feelings, that's why it will be hard to ask fwb to stop, but if we become exclusive as you say, I will do it just to make sure the younger one doesn't find out and gets hurt, the fwb will understand, she wants some girl to hold a tight grip on me.

Damn. I hope things work out for you one day, user. don't give up brother.

>I knew that some couldn't bear to see the nipple

What the flying fuck is happening. Am I not on Jow Forums? Is this not an adult board? You guys are so fucking far gone I swear I sympathise more with roasties than you manbabies

Stop letting him down easy
It's over for him. He's done

15 is short, just accept it user
also, do you gain "confidence" by fucking older woman? why do you think you will have a chance with young girls after fucking a desperate single old milf?

This is christmas, user, the season has the perputal hope. I don't care if I have to get my ass out on some forum and shitpost. It costs me nothing. even if I have to sell my soul to the hiro himself. I am going to lift some random user's spirits!

He has to find mommy gf, it's that simple. Then he will move on to date anyone he wants from any age bracket, women will not assume he was virgin autist until very recently.
I talked with mommy fwb and she gave lots of tips, I'm excited for my first real date with a pretty girl who is at most 10 years older.

>I might as well try to look for girls to marry at this point. They'll all be under six out of ten.
To be honest this is just as impossible.

Wait until marriage op! The Bible says that you should not have sex until marriage.

So, how did you start then? How "mature" are you talking here? What happened? I can't just walk up and fuck mature pussy my guy.

Finding a wife is significantly more difficult than finding some casual sex/gf. Especially if you have ANY basic standards such as no single moms.

I befriended a woman from work, we just work together so happened naturally.
We were talking about stuff and she said my future wife will be lucky I don't drink, I said no one wants me, then we talked about my incel issues, I asked her to find some woman willing to teach my how to handle girls and have sex with me, then I said maybe you will help. So essentially I just told her the truth and she pitied me, but she enjoyed jerking me off while I touched her tits, legs, ass, pussy and wants to do it again. If it wasn't for her I'd still be fearful of talking to women.

>How mature
Around twice your age, I'm 25.

your efforts will be your own demise!
> real date with a pretty girl who is at most 10 years older
on second thought, It's over for you. You're done

pls don't user. don't crush my dreams. Not my hopes and dreams. I still have a chance
>Especially if you have ANY basic standards such as no single moms
pls noo. It has to be easier to look for a girl to marry. Plenty of people do it in their late teens and early 20s
It's all I have left at this point

>pls don't user. don't crush my dreams. Not my hopes and dreams. I still have a chance
I'm sorry user.
There are few women your age who want to get married, and even fewer who would make a good wife and mother.

surely there must be some women still virgins in their 20s, surely

I'm not that guy, I'm not doing kindless cheering, there is nothing to hope for, Christmas or not, you have to just do it.
>10 yers
That's really good after 25 years gap and I'm not sure if it's ten, she is very cute.
15 Is normal and enjoyable enough to stroke for a woman who was in 3 marriages and had tons of men.
She is not desperate, I got jealous when she let her ex touch her butt yesterday and I've seen three men hit on her in a week, even though face wise she is 5/10, but she is slimmer than my new gf lol.
As for other women wanting me, I already got date and I didn't have to beg. I think I made amazing progress is 3 days.

Oh god, I didn't even know you had that as a requirement.
It's not going to happen user, I'm sorry.

I'm telling you this now so you don't spend your 20s hoping for impossible things like I did.

I had my first gf at 25. Others have had one even older than that. I've even met girls your age that were virgins. Don't be such a melodramatic faggot.

Also fuck you retard, it's this all or nothing retard logic that keeps people here incels, there is nothing wrong with dating someone who is 10 years older, women do it all the time. I hope you are a virgin and die one.

yikes. calm down man. Take it easy. If you want older women than that's fine
you're getting mad over a virgins post on 9k, while you're already getting laid kek

>melodramatic
but it's so poetic and cool to be like that. It's better to mask my real feels with melodrama
than to be a husk of a former man

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I got mad because you are missing the point entirely, I'm into schoolgirls, but I'm willing to make compromises for my happiness. Even my fwb milf wants me to find someone who is younger than me, she knows guys want young girls, but she says I should get experienced first with that girl from work.

I guess finding a virgin here is like finding a whore in rome or Afghanistan

you're better than me user. I have to practice to lower my standards so I can be with a real girl. The way my standards are now, it's difficult

You have Chad's standard. Ironically after lowering standard I now feel more Chad than ever, I will talk to more girls today, just in case the one from work reconsiders and I need experience to eventually get big titty goth schoolgirl

It kinda sucks that most women have stacies standard. And I know for sure Chads fuck ugly girls too
they even have relationships with them. While regular guys wouldnt try

I paid for it at 26. Tried popularity, dressing better, pua, being nice, etc. It was legal here. Oddly enough everyone was against it everywhere I asked before, the lesson learned is to ignore everyone and follow your instincts or kys.

nigga you a retard lmfao

I wouldn't say so, maybe really young ones have Stacy standarts, but young ones are also easier more naive and impresionable. I'm not speaking from experience, but I talk a lot about women with fwb mom. She agrees that young women are dumb, she still regrets ditching a perfect guy who was mad in love with her in her youth because he was ginger and she didn't want ginger kids, he is super successful now.

Yes. getting an escort is The Way and The Truth

Lost on your way to Reddit, champ?

Nobody cares. I'm a virgin too but I don't care. I have other things to do, like exercise, work, and do normie shit. When I was a teenager I always wanted to lose my virginity but I realized that sex is just a small part of life. Find religion or something. It not worth having a relationship, everybody sucks anyway.

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why do you keep bumping my thread samefag? let it die already fucking hell

I was like you until I found out what I've been missing out all these years. If you work out you'll find a gf easily.

24 virgin here losing my virginity next week

Cool, with whom?

your mother kek

are you an incel or an volcel?
or have you never even tried because you were too busy

Sweet apple pie strudle, this thread must be kept alive by the blood Hercules
>are you an incel or an volcel or or have you never even tried?
I've been a vocel for years until last year. I tried with a couple girls with no luck. So now I'm volcel again

You realize married people don't have sex? Marriages are about supporting the woman and helping her maintain a comfortable life. You won't get laid and you won't be allowed to have friends/hobbies/etc.

>working out
>gf
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>22
You are delusional to think that being a 22 year old virgin means you are destined for marriage, there are plenty of guys older and more alone than you
>indoor forever like a loser
There is your problem, go outside

not him but there's nowhere to go, the nearest town is 10 miles away. What do people actually do outside in small towns? how do they meet potential women?

>nice wholesome pic
>generic Eastern European whore with bolt-on soccer ball tits #18482957

I have fat ass and tummy, if you go the gym you have no excuse.

He was done from the beginning.

are the nerd girls at the conventionns really much more desperate than some others? I wouldve thought you'd at least have a lot of competition with other thirsty nerds.

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I feel your burden man and any man who can not get some.
I know how fucking frustrating and downright wrecking your confidence this shit is especially as you age.
There is still chance for you I did it at 24.
pro tip: lower standards for now until you get exp. Just think of it like an MMORPG you start by grinding low lvl mobs

>to mature women you can say that you are incel
what? what do you mean by this? can you elaborate please?