Guys I am in crisis mode. I am going to start boxing on Monday. I recently found out that I probably won't be able to do gym simultaneously. I wanted to go 3 times a week boxing and 3 times a week gym, on Sunday I rest. I am currently doing 6 times a week gym and I don't have a problem with it.
Since I started going to the gym I made visible progress on my body, and insane progress on strength. Four months ago I couldn't to a single pull up, now I can do 10 with a perfect form, probably even 12-15 if I cheated with momentum.
I am starting to box on Monday and that's definite, but I have questions.
I am asking you this. Besides obviously losing bf% can I see any body gains while doing boxing. My friend told me they have some sort of gym exercises incorporated in the sessions.
Also I've seen those guys that go to this boxing club, they all have V tapers with insane abs and shoulders. Although I am not sure if they do both gym and boxing.
Is there anyone of you that did only boxing and saw gains on back,shoulders,chest,legs and so on... I would like to hear your experience.
>obviously losing bf% uh no boxing wont make you lose bf%, nutrition will
but yes you will fucking SHRED your shoulders and have stronger abs than you ever thought possible. its decent for back and legs as well
Nathan Cruz
I can only speak about Muay Thai but I feel it will be close enough since we do do hands only sometimes. I ended up stopping lifting weights altogether as heavy bag work would just make me in better shape + body weight exercises (abs, push ups etc) got crazy upper body from it and since I do MT, I also get good legs by jump doing lots of kicks and squats and burpees. You will also realize that big muscles wind you off and make you slow....
Cooper Kelly
OP here, I realize that you won't magically erase your bf% but I am already on a decent diet with 120g of protein daily and controlled carb intake.
I imagine that adding an insane HIIT in terms of boxing would probably drop my bf%.
Parker Nguyen
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you can do boxing and lift at the same time...but you cant be great at both. unless you have olympic-tier aspirations though who the fuck cares? lifting and boxing are both fantastic ways to get and stay in shape. you'll get a lot more out of boxing too...increased balance and general agility, new plyometric and calisthenic routines improve functional strength and muscle growth that is literally impossible to get lifting, obviously self-defense and as a result more than likely confidence boost
dont be a faggot and pick one or the other. you should lift, box and run if you want to be a fit and healthy badass
David Perry
That's the thing I wanted to hear desu. Thanks for the intake!
Andrew Peterson
This
Elijah White
Here's the thing. I would gladly do boxing and gym both. I thought about doing boxing 3 times a week and then have some sort of 3 day program I would go to gym for.
But I found out that I can't afford both gym and boxing and that's why I am asking these questions. I was honestly devastated when I found out I can't do both but I will try out boxing for a few months and If I see no gains I will go back to gym.
Isaac Sanchez
oh well if you have to pick one or the other the answer is simple, do boxing. you can absolutely make a complete fitness routine out of a boxing gym. you will probably lose a lot of strength but as the other user mentioned, muscles can get in the way if you start to get serious with boxing
Ian Baker
also start running if you dont already do cardio, it will help a lot with boxing. that first three minute round is going to kick your ass haha im almost a little jelly you're doing it for the first time
Hunter Morgan
Unless you are genetically blessed you probably won't build a whole lot of muscle boxing, but you certainly be able to build some and you will also greatly increase your cardio.
I did a bro-split for a few years, then powerlifting and finally oly lifting before trying boxing and all the OHPs, push presses C&Js etc... didn't really give me any advantage compared to the other newbies. Because of that I cannot really tell you anything about gains, but I can tell you about losses.
I was about 100 kg when I started going 3 x per week and 2 x per week to the gym for regular weightlifting. In most boxing gyms they have pull-up bars and a dip station and these were sometimes incorporated in to our worksouts. All of the punching, push-ups and other sports specific exercises they had us do alongside technique work meant that I hardly lost any strength or size in my upper body, and obviously my muscular endurance increased rapidly.
After a few months I was about 90kg. I attribute that to muscle loss in my legs from squatting about once every two weeks, a very small about of upper body muscle loss and a bit of fat loss.
If I were you I would choose boxing or any other martial art over the gym. When you go to a party and a girl asks you 'wow, do you play rugby?' or 'are you a boxer?' you can say 'yeah, actually I am', instead of 'no I just lift weights to compensate for my crippling insecurities and because I think it would make you want to fuck me'.
Jaxon Davis
I should clarify. Before I started boxing I was going to the gym 5 x a week so I exchanged 3 gym sessions for 3 boxing sessions.
I was squatting about 2 x per week so 4 x per fortnight. This went down to approx 1 x per week.
Ian Scott
1. How long is your average boxing training done for?
2. How long should HIIT intervel workouts be fore? like X minutes of jump rope, X minutes of heavy bag work
Benjamin Scott
you'll definitely look 'athletic' with all the heavy bag work, body weight exercises, sparring, roadwork, but it still doesn't compare to lifting weights as far as looks/strength go. But its a lot more fun and you'll make friends. decide whether boxing or lifting is the greater priority and stick with it. I wish I could do both; now i just try to lift and watch boxing instead of training, although I've picked up Judo
Josiah Parker
I never actually went, I am starting on Monday. Each sessions is 1hr-1hr 30min long.
Jeremiah Cook
>roadwork
?
William Turner
running
Christopher Diaz
I will definitely try out boxing for at least 2 months then we will see.
Tbh I couldn't care less about strength as I only went to gym to look better but I started making serious strength gains as a result. If I don't like my appearance after two months of boxing I will go back to gym and continue working on my bodybuilding.
John Davis
typically training boxing is done in 3 minute intervals since it's the length of a round. so if you do some calisthenic you might do 3 min round of 30 second splits: burpees into jumping jacks into pushups into planking, etc etc. if you're punching you might throw a combo, or a single punch, or whatever for 3 minutes straight or break it up....but the tendency is 3 minute long intervals with a short rest in between (30sec training is considered good, you get a minute in a fight)
my trainer has a 'spartacus' workout where you go 7 3 minute rounds of varying mixups with 30 second gaps between them...but the gaps arent rests, its calisthenics. then a 5 minute rest at the end and you do 1 more pass of 7 rounds. its absolute hell
Wyatt Gonzalez
This. When i was doing muay Thai, i came an hour early and lifted.
Then i quit and fell for the home gym meme. Lifted and finished every session with shadow boxing and heavy bag. Best cardio desu.
Going to join a boxing gym in Summer, cause moved and heavy bag isnt possible in my basement gym
Aiden Williams
>shadow boxing >Best cardio truer words have never been spoken
Jeremiah Long
There were two types of classes that I went to:
1. Beginner/Technique Classes (60 minutes) > 10-15 mins: warm up - running around the perimeter of the gym, stretching, light strength training (pushups, air squats etc...), jump rope
> 30-40 minutes technique work: with a partner hitting the palms of each other gloves practicing combos, slipping/ evasion - the coach walks around the class providing pointers and correcting technique
> 10 mins: High intensity work. Often on the heavy bag 30 seconds on, 30 seconds off. Very hard cardio mixed with body weight work.
2. Sparring classes (90 minutes)
> 10-15 minutes: as above > 30-40 minutes as above > 30-40 minutes Sparring: Three minutes rounds w/ one minute rest periods. Depending on the day it could be hard sparring which is almost like fighting, sparring with only hook/jabs/straight hands/one person attacking, the other defending/ light sparring to work on higher risk moves like slipping/ only to the body/ only to the head.
Hunter Lee
Not OP but you fuckers just convinced me to start boxing next week.
Elijah Miller
I done boxing for 2 years. I did like it, the classes were fun, i felt like a hard man and it made me incredibly fit. However i often found it stressing because i didn't like the social aspect of it, i was constantly under pressure to do well and i was worried about getting deformities, every long term boxer i knew had a fucked up nose.
I fucked it off because i got busy with stuff and sorta gradually stopped going. honestly could not see myself going after work because i would be too tired. I much prefer lifting because its easy as fuck compared to a boxing work out and i can do it independently. The only annoying thing about lifting is the diet
Aaron Gomez
>You will also realize that big muscles wind you off and make you slow.... Almost nobody on Jow Forums is muscular to the point where their conditioning would suffer, muscle=slow is a Dempsey-era meme
Just do your weight training after or before your boxing class and boom you've done both
Isaiah Brown
Yeah I would do that if I had access to both gym and boxing lessons. Unfortunately I can only go to one, and I picked boxing for at least month or two for now.
Colton Edwards
most boxing gyms have a strength training sections. barbells and pullup rings and weights etc... You can train before/after your boxing session. Unless you're a machine fag or you use useless shit like dumbells and pullover bars
Isaiah Ramirez
First of all I am definitely not a machine fag since I don't use any machine besides lat pulldown at the gym. And hamstring extension machine at the end of my leg workout.
I really hope that they have those in the gym I will be going. I am certain they have a bar for pullups and station for dips, don't know about barbells and weights though.
Isaac Butler
You could have just said that you autistic fuck
Luke Thomas
You get stronger by doing more weight. not by doing calisthenics.
>big muscles wind you off and make you slow... if anything, doing 100 pushups in sets of 20 will give you BIGGER muscles than doing 5x5 bench. This poster is so fucking stupid.
as for OP I did SS for a couple months, then i started doing Muay thai on top of it. I think it works fine if you only go to the gym three times a week, my body generally recovers over the weekend. And I generally go to MT 4-5 times a week. HOWEVER, I did notice a period of time, around 2 weeks after I started muay thai, of plateau. I just felt so weak in the gym and my lifts were declining. I think it was my body adjusting to more exercise, I was eating around 4k calories a day so I added around 1000 and i felt my strength come back eventually, although it took like 2 months and I was contemplating just quitting altogether because of how discouraging it was. if its cuz of finances, my boxing gym has a strength training gym and coach. Most mildly reputable places should have this. if they dont, then the choice is >Raw strength (if you are doing strength training) >You can reach muscle groups with weight it isn't used to (like legs, or chest), that isnt possible in calisthenics, in the case for bodybuilding >not necessarily good for stamina like fighting, not much real-world application or >Much better stamina, endurance >Actual function in the real world (self defense, which gives confidence boost, security) >Mediocre looking body, especially lower body and chest area, compared to if he you went the gym route
Caleb James
>Hamstring extension useless exercise, waste of time do something else instead >lat pulldown which is just a shittier version of a pullup/chin? Again why bother?
can guarantee you spend an abhorrent amount of time fruitlessly on dumbells.
Charles Rivera
I do lat pulldown with light weight at the end of back workout. My back workout: 5 sets of pullups, 2 sets of chin ups, 4 sets of barbell rows, 3 sets of lat pulldowns and 3 sets of dumbell rows.
Also I do dumbells for my shoulders mainly for mid delts and I can tell you it's most definitely not fruitless.
Logan Foster
>with light weight What is the conceived benefit you think you're getting out of this? That you HAVEN'T already gotten from the 5 sets of pullups, and 2 sets of chins. Also what are your reps on pullups/chins?
Daniel Ward
boxing is the fucking best if you want to get ripped fast. even better than gym. yes i said it.