Wtf is depression

Can diagnosed anons or undiagnosed ones who are certain they dont have meme-depression explain to me what DEPRESSION is?

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waiting to die in peace and comfort

That's it?
Isn't that normal?

on the most basic level your reward system is fucked.
you have no desire to do things that most people do like socialise, work, make money, have ambitions because when you do these things your reward system doesn't produce the adequate amount of dopamine and serotonin that makes the average person motivated for each day.
most people look at a depressed person and think "well of course he's depressed he just sits in his room alone". what most people miss is that this is a symptom not a cause. I could literally be on a party boat right now with millions of dollars surrounded by beautiful women and essentially feel the same as I am right now in this dark room on Jow Forums

You feel like shit all the time because you aren't letting yourself enjoy things.
It comes down to attitude, ya dumb dumb.

Its like looking at life through a gray lens. Its a matter of perspective. Prolonged sadness that makes it difficult to enjoy even the little things

>you have no desire to do things that most people do like socialise, work, make money, have ambitions because when you do these things your reward system doesn't produce the adequate amount of dopamine and serotonin that makes the average person motivated for each day.
That's what I said to my psych about how everything feels like a fucking drag, from leaving the house, to taking a shower, to opening my playstation and she told me it's just my personality

For most people? A lack of meaningful positive stimuli from their environment.

Most of the time this isn't their fault (and not in the brain-cucked "chemical imbalance" way, in the "the world is a brutal cruel place" way)

wow I'm cured you're a fucking genius

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psychologist or psychiatrist?

I went to a psychologist once and it was disturbing how un educated she was. I was one step ahead of her at every point. she literally asked "why are you depressed"

Psychiatrist
On the plus side it was only one appointment and she said she needs 2 or 3 to be certain

Get a new psychiatrist/therapist.
You guys are literally identifying with your depression and refusing to let yourselves feel better on a sub-concious level. Most likely from low-self esteem from your sad lifestyles that causes depression and creates your vicious cycle.
Stop being faggots

for me, its being unmotivated to do things that i am 100% sure i like. i train in martial arts, and after i leave a class i feel great, but i never go to class because i really just cant force myself. some days i cant even leave my bed or some chair i sit in until people are practically yelliing at me. i sort of feel like shit most of the time and feel "happy" only for short periods

Lack of energy or will power to get out of bed.

diagnosed and taking meds for adhd and depression btw

even if I managed to beat my depression I'd still be an ugly autist which is likely the stressor that caused the depression in the first place. and it's highly likely in my case that my mental illness is genetic. my family tree is like looking at the dsm.

my mum has anorexia. my dad has aspergers. my grandpa on my mums side had aspergers. my grandma on my mums side was an alcoholic. my grandpa on my dads side has an anxiety disorder and my grandma on my dads side is bi polar.

both of those things are memes

This is exactly the kind of thing I would have ignored when I was depressed, but is exactly what I needed to understand to get better

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Aww, it's not so bad, Quagmire, you could always kill yourself.

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It's when someone doesn't get any positive feelings from stuff. For example, robots are sad for being lonely with no friends nor gf, but they might waste their time playing vidya, eating tendies and watching anime because it feels good. A depressed robot won't want to play videogames or eat junk food or do anything at all because nothing makes them fell better anymore. The causes are diverse and depression might come from the self (muh brain chemistry) or just from having a shitty, lonely life for too long.

>dumb people exist
Very enlightening, user

>A depressed robot won't want to play videogames or eat junk food or do anything at all because nothing makes them fell better anymore

food tastes like cardboard and video games are a chore

Having irrational negative thoughts and believing they are true, feeling empty and lost

Enjoy your aspergers, I'm in the same boat

Have you talked to a psychologist? It's important to do that so that he can determine if your depression (in case you are actually depressed) is clinical in nature, in that case a psychiatrist and pharmacological treatment would be absolutely necessary, or if it just stems from something wrong in your life, in which case the treatment would have to be more focused on fixing your external problems and sorting your psyche.

My depression comes from what is called "dopamine deficiency"
Dopamine is a chemical that is often found partnered with Seratonin, and both together are used as chemicals in your brain to produce the emotions we associate with comfort, contentment, happiness, safety, calmness, and satisfaction
Domapine also is involved in bodily regulations, things like metabolism, but let's focus on the chemical/emotional impacts which lead to depression

To that same concept, all emotions you experience, are a result of chemicals in your brain
When you are developing as a child, these are critical years that determine how you physically form into a matured adult
If you are deficient/excessive in nutrition during your childhood years, it will impact the way you become physically set into adulthood
The same goes for chemical balances in your brain as you grow and progress through adolescence
Because I had an childhood which was mostly filled with stress, anxiety, and sadness, my brain was under constant exposure of chemicals associated with stress, and in this case: a severe lack of dopamine

To such an extent that my brain:
Has a below average amount of dopamine receptors in it
Produces too much dopamine when stimulated to create it

The general result is:
I literally, physically, can never have enough dopamine because I lack the average amount of receptors for intake. My general displacement is to be emotionally unreactive, leaning on the side of feeling melancholy
I CAN feel happy but it is always fleeting, and ends up being exhausting after a bit because the dopamine receptors I do have essentially end up getting fatigued from sustained activation after a wave of dopamine crashes thru my brain. (an example of this in action: being an "introvert", I enjoy being social, but I can only sustain it for so long before it is overstimulating)

If I find something that gives me a steady dopamine flow instead of a burst, anything, I can basically become addicted to it. (vidya)

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There is literally no way to determine whether the emotion precedes the chemical or vice versa. The dopamine theory is bunk science. It's not scientifically testable.

>If I find something that gives me a steady dopamine flow instead of a burst, anything, I can basically become addicted to it. (vidya)
The problem isn't your brain; the problem is the boring dystopian slog of a society you live in. You literally admit to your brain being capable of regular dopamine production in this line.

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nobody knows what depression is desu. it's just something that happens that seems to be both physiological and psychological in nature. depression is a huge mystery that is far more complex than just serotonin/dopamine/norepinephrine levels, although those do play a role on the physical side.

for real. i love modern creature comforts and basically live on the internet, but I think if I could live in a small community that was self-sustained and tight nit without internet that I'd choose it in an instant. this shit just isn't natural.

It actually infuriates me that depression was explained to me for years in purely biologically-centric terms. It kept me spinning my wheels for a decade until I realized "huh, maybe there's a logical thought or belief behind these emotions."

>"Doc, I'm depressed."
>"You are a robot who is controlled by chemical reactions in your skull. Free will is a myth."
>"Why don't I feel better"

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Bad depression hurts all over your body.
.depression is just a logical response to a shitty enivioment. Or lack of control

for real, we don't know much, and people are constantly spewing bad information (just like they are in this thread). don't get me wrong, a lot of what is said is correct in bits and pieces, but they talk about those bits as if they're the big picture and that's just not true.

>Meme meme momo xD
Kill youre self zoomer.

Retarded. Do you know why all depression (dopamine) pills stop working between 6 months and two years? And force you to change pills or dosage? Becuase your brain readjusts to your enivioment

I doubt it's meme-depression, but I haven't lived up to my father's expectations and bc of this I constantly feel like I'm a failure and disappointment so I don't reach high or try to be good at anything, I just get by bc at least that let's me live another day, even though I want to die

Then how come happy millionaires with access to everything get depression?
>Inb4 it is lonely at the top
Shut up

Where did you learn this? A Jordan Peterson video?

Please spare the world of your retarded offspring.

You're trying a little too hard to either be a troll, a know-it-all, or both.
It's funny you use the word "admit" as though you're some sleuth or expert discovering a clue like sherlock holmes.
Except I did not say "regular dopamine flow"
I said steady, as in steady for my particular physiology.
There is also plenty of scientific testing and measurable data which directly links dopamine deficiencies with anxiety, depression, among other health deficiencies.

If you actually want to be a know-it-all, start here and do some searching and reading: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

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Do you even know what that pic is showing? Do you not know about dopamine receptor changes? Lol, you never took neropych, did you?

You are depressed when your room isnt cleank bucko