What the fuck is wrong with zoomers?

Matthew Miller
Matthew Miller

28% of young men can’t get laid
18% of young women can’t get laid
What the fuck is wrong with zoomers?

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Luis Clark
Luis Clark

Too much porn. Too high standards.

Austin Reed
Austin Reed

I'm not trying to get laid. Volcel life

Juan Miller
Juan Miller

Cope

John Hill
John Hill

It's hard to meet people if you hate going to clubs or bars

Henry Smith
Henry Smith

It's strange this cause back in my day males and females didn't really hang out socially outside of parties and school. These days I always see mixed gender groups knocking about together.

Jacob Morales
Jacob Morales

That’s neglect. That’s NOT volcel. Volcel is when a guy has to beat women off with a stick because he doesn’t want to fuck.

Nolan Adams
Nolan Adams

What age are you talking about here? After HS mixed gender friend groups have always been common.

John Wilson
John Wilson

How about crystal.cafe?

James Wilson
James Wilson

A socially inept generation raised on the internet alongside the whole MGTOW culture and whatever other shitty subcultures exist contribute to the lower rates

Jonathan Jones
Jonathan Jones

I could've had sex with any of my past girlfriends. How's that neglect? Sorry you're just a degenerate faggot

Eli Murphy
Eli Murphy

90s

Jack Howard
Jack Howard

I mean it's entirely anecdotal for my local area but in the 90s it wasn't really common round here

Charles Johnson
Charles Johnson

Shits crazy popular. When I tell people that I dont enjoy clubbing they look at me like ive grown an extra head. Even my mates who never ever touch alcohol still go clubbing unironically while sober (which must be the absolute worst thing ever). Cant wait until everyone grows out of it desu.

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Cooper Smith
Cooper Smith

ruined by the attention from Jow Forums. It is mostly trannies and larpers now.

Jason Stewart
Jason Stewart

going to clubs sober
what in the god damn.

Nathan Moore
Nathan Moore

Females are too much work. Let chad have them. Less headache for me

Isaac Cook
Isaac Cook

I can get laid, but I would prefer to marry or become a priest.

However the conundrum now is finding a wife who isn't or wasn't a whore.

Jonathan Phillips
Jonathan Phillips

Exactly

Cameron Parker
Cameron Parker

18% of young women choose not to get laid

fixed

Joshua Harris
Joshua Harris

Me too. I choose to be alone because I'm actually happy being alone. It's hard for normies to undestand but I don't really get lonely. I don't need friends or a gf.

Dylan Peterson
Dylan Peterson

I'm sure I could get laid if I wanted to but I'm 212lb and I don't want to settle. When I reach my goal weight of 107lb I'll start sleeping with qt boys

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Tyler Howard
Tyler Howard

Your situation is one that is incredibly unnatural. Matter of fact, I dare say it is the inverse problem of the overly-socialised normies.

The Greeks believed that only Gods or Beasts could thrive alone, and I believe it fair to say that no man here is a God.

Find yourself a mannerbund, lad; you'll surprise yourself.

Gavin Morris
Gavin Morris

Do you also like to travel?

Lincoln Rodriguez
Lincoln Rodriguez

whore

(who am I joking, stop larping fag)

Joshua Howard
Joshua Howard

ive never understood the appeal of casual sex desu. it seems so pointless. society loves to shame virgins for "not being able to get laid" but why would i even want to "get laid"? how does casual sex with promiscuous people benefit me? statistically speaking nothing is more damaging to marriages and families than casual sex. as someone who wants to get married and raise a family why wouldnt i choose to remain pure?

inb4 "dude hedonism lmao"

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Camden Kelly
Camden Kelly

I doubt you’re pure. Keep in mind yiu can’t be re-pured. Have you ever viewed pornography? Thought indecent thoughts?

Justin Rodriguez
Justin Rodriguez

Don't get me wrong, I want a gf and a whole litter of kids. But casual sex is stupid and I'm waiting for a decent girl who isn't a blacked whore.

Jason Young
Jason Young

I'm waiting for a decent girl who isn't a blacked whore.

They don't exist, unless you want to date an elderly woman.

Nolan Robinson
Nolan Robinson

unironically low/no meat diets

Thomas Cooper
Thomas Cooper

Why cant you find a girl that sharrs yout values? Plenty of women out there wanting to be mothers

Joshua Morris
Joshua Morris

hehe

Jaxson Johnson
Jaxson Johnson

I'm not that black-pilled yet

Carter Bennett
Carter Bennett

What constitutes beating women off with a stick? I've been hit on three times this week, but I'm so autistic that I tried deflecting al of them.

Justin Gonzalez
Justin Gonzalez

Yes goyim. Eat more basedfed pork and beef

Landon Hall
Landon Hall

i made a video about this
please be kind to check it out

edit: wow thanks for the gold kind stranger!
youtube.com/watch?v=q52sDFGhaww

Tyler Roberts
Tyler Roberts

18% of women are too repulsive to get fucked by men they desire

Ftfy

Jackson Brown
Jackson Brown

Shouldn't that be 80%?

Ayden Wright
Ayden Wright

Because I'm an autistic fat manlet, who only finds joy in music, math and lifting

Josiah Jackson
Josiah Jackson

this doesn't surprise me. in 2013 the official manlet status was raised to 6'2". in 2016 it was 6'3", this year it will be 6'4". women don't want to have sex with manlets anymore. this graph only shows that 28% of men are 6'4" or under.

Angel Garcia
Angel Garcia

I have the most respect for good looking men who can get laid who choose not to engage in casual sex. Whenever some autist or someone on Jow Forums talks about how promiscuity is bad I don't disagree with them, but it is just a cope. Post body or face if you want to convince me.

Ryan Williams
Ryan Williams

As a 6'4 male I've already scheduled surgical castration for 2021, the manlet status will be raised to 6'5 by then so there's literally no point in even existing...

Adrian Gray
Adrian Gray

Zoomer here, it's the latter. I've tried lowering them but I just feel less attracted to girls that don't look at least 6/10 or if they're are stupid. The first part is probably because ofthe porn.

Henry Walker
Henry Walker

I currently attending university and doing so at 24, I’ve talked to a few teenage guys about shit like this and most of them say they don’t want to deal with women, they sound like jaded mgtows.

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Luke Carter
Luke Carter

fpbp. Absolutely based user.
That's it: porn ruined young people's approach with sexuality and it's a placebo for sex (why make an effort getting laid when I can beat my meat?).
Also females too high standards, social networks such as instagram and tinder ruined them: insta because they look at female influencers with their perfect bodies and luxury lifestyles and tinder because it fills their naive ego.
Anyway even if I'm a 24yo kv I'm happy I quit the porn and social network trap, I don't get laid simply because I'm a loner and I leave home just to work and meet relatives (I lift at home).
I'm not worried about getting laid ever because my time will come (when I'll earn more money than now) and, as Zyzz said:
we are all gonna make it brahs

Sebastian Morris
Sebastian Morris

If you cant land a 6/10 its not your high standards that are the problem fucking zoomer

Carson Murphy
Carson Murphy

High standards. Not in the sense of looks, but i refuse to date anyone that has social media, tinder, casual sex even once, drinks, smokes, or just isnt annoying

Kayden Morris
Kayden Morris

This is the result of the the "free market capitalization" of the sexual market, thanks to apps like Tinder.

Men crave sex more than women. This leads to an imbalance: women are a much more valuable good than men are, and this has logical repercussions: whereas even just 10 years ago, a 5/10 guy could just have sex with another 5/10 girl due to being in the same social circle/living in the same area, nowadays the girl can just go on Tinder and have easy sexual access to an array of 8/10 Chads. Why should she bother with the 5/10?

This extreme sexual free market has the same effect as extreme free markets of any kind of economy: rise in sexual inequalities. A lot of men are being pauperized and will have to settle for a life of sexlessness. On the other hand, and this is not shown by your graph, it has never been a better time in history to be an attractive man. You can literally have hundreds of sexual encounters, they're just a few swipes away.

inb4 yells of "incel REE"

Christian Green
Christian Green

based
casual sex is nothing compared to sex with someone you really love.

Samuel Wilson
Samuel Wilson

Female hypergamy, and male Market Place Value. If a female is not limited to mates of her age and in the scenario of marriage for life - older men will inevitably have more material wealth.

The real issue is finding a woman who is immature and has not fallen for meme activity of fucking around. That is, if you're in it for anything other than sex.

Carson Murphy
Carson Murphy

That applies to hookups but not relationships.

William Sanchez
William Sanchez

based

Blake Watson
Blake Watson

Too high standards
Hole
Pulse
Fucking incels, think they're too good to fuck a puddle of mud

Justin Johnson
Justin Johnson

this, unironically

Jace Ramirez
Jace Ramirez

The 20s are a time to "find onself" user, not settle down.

But it's true that if you are financially successful, you can look forward to betabux a used up post prime roastie and finally lose your virginity at 30!

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Lucas Hughes
Lucas Hughes

this doesn't mean what you think it means at all. what it means is that attractive men can more easily capitalize on hookups to create a relationship and that the women who settle do so at an older and older age as the market becomes freer and more saturated by app marketing penetration and the liberalization of sex.

for men it's a chicken and egg scenario. there are certainly some men at the top who are at the top and love casual sex, but for a lot of men who want to compete and land a 9/10 or 10/10 not-crazy wife, they need to be as competitive as the top men. one of the things that top men have going for them past the age of 20 is a history of casual sexual encounters and the sexual knowledge and skill that comes with that, so in order to compete you have to build a history of your own. its obvious if you just think about it for a second.

Isaiah Torres
Isaiah Torres

too high standards
Any explanation where you accuse the people of being an asshole in some way rarely satisfies me.
I remember when I was like... 11. At that point I had high standards because puberty had not fully kicked in.
By maybe 16-17 my standards were:
it'd be nice if they weren't ugly
but if they're ugly and dtf all right
And I am a low t guy, not a high t sex maniac.

I think a lot of these kids are just neurotic and fucked up and not only do they have no idea how to court and be courted: doing so feels like it'd be nothing but anxiety to them.

Nolan Ramirez
Nolan Ramirez

I don't want to die alone

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Oliver Moore
Oliver Moore

bro even if you get laid, you're gonna die alone
divorce rates at 50% and you think a virgin at 20+ you're gonna find lifelong love?

get real

Carter Murphy
Carter Murphy

Sadly, this.
I'm in my early 30s, and the dating pool at my age is horrible. It's either single moms looking for a betabux provider, the grossly deformed, or legit psychos that will eventually stab you 28 times in your sleep.
I could aim down, but 20 somethings are too caught up in their lifestyle. Multiple hookups, party culture, and a bipolar self narrative.
At this point, I've about accepted that I will die alone. I can find random hookups to satisfy that physical itch, but I highly doubt that I'll find someone to settle with at this point.

Christian Hall
Christian Hall

Depressing

Jaxon Sanders
Jaxon Sanders

Or i just might be a god?

Carson Campbell
Carson Campbell

actually what happens is that normalfags (90% of the population) sit on phone all day so they get laid less since not all of them can chad.

if you just want 9's PUA it up , its good for self development but tedious and retarded. and you are not exempt from looking good and having your own shit.

I know all the local PUAs in my city and they all get fat and ugly eventually becuase they stop giving a fuck anymore.

if you want a real relationship with a non broken girl you are shit out of luck by the time you realize it and build your system to get her because:
1. you won't be motivated
2. they are somewhat rare
3. you will be geared towards slags and filtering them will be impossible unless you had your share of slags (and earn point 1 of this list)

Asher Rivera
Asher Rivera

If you're not too hung up over "muh heritage" you can go fishing in latin america, eastern europe or asia.

Nathan Brown
Nathan Brown

Obesity, not even obese people want to fuck obese people.

Dominic Cruz
Dominic Cruz

Mixed race people are physically and mentally less healthy. You should be aiming for healthy children above all, not reliable cummies from your 3D waifu.

Tyler Hill
Tyler Hill

you can filter them out.
just because bipolar 20somethings and single moms are easy doesn't mean there all that is.

there easy because they are dumped more often.

the whole notion of being alone is somewhat correct since the current social dynamic keeps people apart even if they are of the same family.

Brandon Perez
Brandon Perez

The shit still baffles me

Having a good time at friends house, has a bunch of people around, meeting friends of friends, playing drinking games, having a laugh, fridge is loaded with drinks
"Let's all go to a club!"
everyone thinks it's a great idea for some reason
it's about 10 o'clock already
everyone starts leaving, so i just go home
you'd have to
find a way there
pay entry
$15 drinks
can't hear or talk to anyone
shit music nobody really likes
find a way home after

Get texts from various people asking where I've gone
As if not one of them even considered not spending $100 to take some photos and have a drink spilled on them

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Jack Reed
Jack Reed

I've fucked around with enough married filipinas to get me nervous about getting seriously involved where a green card is on the line.
I've still considered the idea though.

Easton Edwards
Easton Edwards

You need new friends.

Evan Morgan
Evan Morgan

Shouldn't you be chewing gum right now femanon.

Jayden Jones
Jayden Jones

Too high standards is true lmao

Evan King
Evan King

25 year old European here who lived in the US for around two years and has moved back to Europe since.

Short version: Americans are degenerate.

Long version: Americans endlessly regurgitate cultural trends and usually think they're unique and special for doing so. In deepthroating capitalism they have eventually succeeded in turning themselves into the commodity. Like any commodity you need to appeal to the market. With women this is relatively easy, as they have all the resources in the world already at their hands to turn themselves into amateur Instagram models. For men it is relatively harder. Men are ignorant and entitled, so they lack both the knowledge and the willpower to appeal to the market relatively more so than women. Some men have understood the game, they have adapted. Other men (incels) are still lagging behind, blaming external factors instead of changing. The most pathetic form of American man is the nu male, who attempts to adapt, but horribly falls short.

Overall a shit show with no winning side.

Brayden Flores
Brayden Flores

you can filter them out
That's what I'm doing. And in the 30yo age range, there's nothing left. The good ones already settled down, or got turned into one of the aforementioned categories
bipolar 20somethings
I said 20 somethings with a bipolar self narrative. If you don't know the difference, then good luck.
there easy because they are dumped more often
No shit, you expect me to go after married women?
I suspect you either married young or are underage b&

Lincoln Brooks
Lincoln Brooks

when you reach your goal weight your face abs and upper arms will be fucked up since the fat pad around the cheeks will sag making you a 6 at best even if you had good genetics.

you have no chance to compete with 17-23 year old pro slags for their niche (which ,for all of their power in clubs and apps amounts to not much esp given how dumb most are)

stalk the area around the club later at night, its worthwhile just for learning about the insanity that is people , bring 1 good friend so you won't be up in your head all the time.
you will get plenty of adventure for the time put in. all you will miss out is the stupidity.

if you need a place indoors to just meet up any non shit venue will do.

Henry Cook
Henry Cook

If there's no one left, it's because you're low status. There are a ton of academics and career people who are still single in their early 30s, without kids too. They just live in a world you do not participate in.

Grayson Jones
Grayson Jones

Sex without procreation is a pointless act. It doesn't strengthen your relationship, it literally does nothing except release some chemicals into your brain like some fucking crack addict. That's of course if you look at it from a rational perspective.

Kayden Wilson
Kayden Wilson

This is the most pointless post in a thread full of incel posts. He knows that his choices are strippers and other trash, so he obviously knows he's low status. Unfortunately if you fuck up your first go-around at college, there's not really any way to elevate your status in our society short of getting a supremely lucky boss and working 80 hours a week for years on end.

Angel Watson
Angel Watson

the oxytocin deal is legit but then you have to ask yourself what a crack addict will do for a fix if she's starved of crack for a day or two.

Jordan Collins
Jordan Collins

Then why whine about it. It's just entitled to complain about being surrounded by low status women when you're a low status male.

Elijah Powell
Elijah Powell

If your gf/wife wasnt a virgin when youre met then youre pathetic

Settling for an allready used woman is absolutely disgusting

All your ancestors and all men in the past found virgin partners

Asher Peterson
Asher Peterson

It's not a fapping problem.
It's mental issues coupled with shit social skills, aka shit game.
I get laid plenty, but fapping is just convenient.
Nothing can beat some comfy personal time and good porn.
These zoomers are just shit at getting laid.

Hunter Morales
Hunter Morales

I both not trying to get laid and absolutely desperate to do so, what mode is this?

Jose Barnes
Jose Barnes

The disparity might be due to dating sites/apps. Can't be good in any case.

Oliver Kelly
Oliver Kelly

Underage it is
academics and career people who are still single in their early 30s, without kids too
And they all expect to settle down with someone who is of higher status and higher pay grade. You'll learn that when you grow up.
obviously knows he's low status
Mid range, which is essentially the same as being bubba tier trash in today's day and age. And I don't fuck strippers

Jayden Wilson
Jayden Wilson

How do you know? Have you been checking the hymen of every female ancestor?

Luke Gomez
Luke Gomez

Poor social skills. There's some cool Zoomer bros at my gym that I occaisionally do sets with. They clearly have lots of social anxiety issues and are terrified of approaching girls. Result of too much video games, social media...etc.

Jason Morgan
Jason Morgan

So you are lower status and lower pay grade.

You're a failure, that's why you can't get serious women.

Elijah Jones
Elijah Jones

Isn't it time for you to post HAES in the /fph/ thread? Then go and while about how you can't get the guy you deserve

Nicholas Allen
Nicholas Allen

I meant what you meant, all good.

the dating market is the same as it was 10 years ago more or less, maybe we now have tinder and instagram. you aren't booted out of having a 20 year old girl who is normal if you are good enough for her.

maybe it gets shit by late 40's for most men since you loose a lot of access but you probably could work around that too.

as for womans... personally by 25 their appeal drops off fast for me, but whatever. they got invited to stuff since age 12 and are more socially aware so it more than evens out.

Ryder Perry
Ryder Perry

They got lazy and ugly.
When I was young people moved about much more. We were busy doing things. We were active.
People today are smartphone junkies and are out of shape and ugly.
I see teenage girls today and I would only do 1 out of 10. When I was young even the butterfaces were alright. Back then I would do 6 out of 10.
You all got mislead by bullshit, spend your time with bullshit. There is little self-care and self love nowadays.
And You all sell that failure to yourself as freedom and getting rid of bad standards.

Standards are good, they make you fuckable. You can still become smartphone junkies once you are to old to pick up. Like me.

Thomas Clark
Thomas Clark

technically this age gives you the widest access
For fucking, sure. I turn down butter huffers like
on a near daily basis.
When it comes to getting serious though, that's where it gets depressing.
if its that important to you to marry (are you religious or want a large family for which you can already provide? )
The latter, really. I can support a family where I stand, and I'd like to be able to pass on my heritage.
1. move abroad/new city part time
This is what I've been considering. My work allows for a lot of leeway in location, and I've thought about about trying new places.
2. build a social life around the right places
At least here it seems like most social groups are highly insular, and don't welcome outsiders easily. I could try harder, I suppose.
3. just get that good with game and people that you can make all the good options that remain happen
I'm not /r9k/ tier, but that's probably outside of the scope of my social skills

Chase Wood
Chase Wood

Meant for
I think

Cameron Kelly
Cameron Kelly

Obesity

Brandon Hall
Brandon Hall

I think it was because society operated at the level of 12 year old cognition for the most part so you hit puberty around the time you were about what is 25 in terms of modern personal development today.

look at the ages many famous older scientists got their education done, it was like 12-16

cultures that take a lot of time to develop for men like the masai do have 25 year olds marry 13 year olds though.

our modern culture is complex so women are really only "not stupid" by about 25 (if ever) and you can't just lock them out of their prime years. (but still marriage is dumb and cheats the men on his side of the deal today)

Ian Perez
Ian Perez

It's pretty similar for men and women AFAIK, doesn't explain why there's more sex-starved men than women. I really think it has something to do with modern dating, with 1/5 relationships start online and the "chads" getting more attention than before.

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Owen Moore
Owen Moore

they got invited to stuff since age 12
this completely fucked me in high school(uk)
hearing about this guy or that drink or this drug every day whereas id maybe go to see my friends at the park at the weekend just made me feel like there was no way of competing with or participating in that kind of life, and eventually shut out the vast majority of people in and out of school
luckily i have moved on from it but still feel like a few years of social development went missing
nonces ruin everything

Carter Hall
Carter Hall

Less people are more inclined to fuck a fat guy over a fat chick, guys fuck anything

Jace Thompson
Jace Thompson

the whole point of social groups being insular is enabling this level of trust that you seek.
you are the guy outside a crowded bus trying to get in. wait for a less crowded bus or bring your own.

you aren't trying to be some FBI undercover agent, its like squatting 1.5x bodyweight, doable after building up to it on the right program.

I know sometimes it feels like low tier girls chose over highly developed men who compete for them, esp in certain central cities, but that's where the relocation thing comes in.

anyway my whole point with this thread is that this statistic is likely due to normalfags being 90% of the population, not getting laid. most females who get laid do it with 'pros' rather than civilians. aka pickup artists,chads,guys who work in nightlife, and other sex addicts with different tools.

Samuel Torres
Samuel Torres

Maybe the Greeks were idiots you fucking retard

Jonathan Jones
Jonathan Jones

shut up falseflag shill, the global agenda is veganism induced braindamage

meat is good for you

Ayden Brooks
Ayden Brooks

meeting new people is absolute cancer nowadays.
not only is every girl riding tinder's cock carousel, the amount of optical deception that is possible now is absurd.
you're meeting women that are literally wearing masks, pushup bras, pushup asses, heels to make legs look more muscular, pants that flatten the belly, etc. I've pulled girls that don't even look like the same person on the next day without makeup and concealing clothes.

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Luke Williams
Luke Williams

they're are

Ethan Sanchez
Ethan Sanchez

Obesity rates haven't changed.

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Xavier Green
Xavier Green

I'm not trying to have sex with children so your image is irrelevant

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Landon Reyes
Landon Reyes

Well fine, people seem to have gotten fatter, especially adults, but the change isn't that great.

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Leo Walker
Leo Walker

Is a yuropoor seriously trying to explain anything to anyone? Lmfao

Charles Reyes
Charles Reyes

Meaning that increasing obesity is not the cause for the disparity.

Jackson Price
Jackson Price

And considering how Hispanics tend to suffer from obesity more often it could also be explained by them becoming a larger portion of the population.

Carter Taylor
Carter Taylor

Jow Forums is the living proof that looking better than 98% of the population won't enable you to compete with even a 6/10 girl

the reality is that girls are serviced by 'pros' (guys who figured stuff out and set things up) in every niche.
girls already having the pro attention do not typically put serious effort into picking up guys.

I am a coder, a shit coder. in my country there are so many jobs for coders that recruiters (typically nasty 25+ females) will hunt you down and spam you with job offers ALL THE TIME, so this is basically the same thing I was doing with girls till a while ago until I got fired (underqualified for a job :/ ) and put all my motivation into coding.

I know places where you go out in (israel) you are greeted by like 10 different pickup guys you see on facebook groups, and see 20 more guys approach every damm girl every day at rush hour. (not kidding)

many of them suck shit at presenting themselves well
but many are legit chad tier and will still approach average girls for the hell of it, kind of like how it is with me and my last job.

anyway my main point is that by becoming better looking as a guy or even getting more status, you won't compete with pros who know how to get the damm bitch go all the way to their bed and then call them a few dozen more times over a few years when they are horny because they already know them and its discreet.

Blake Richardson
Blake Richardson

Shoo shoo Talmudcel

John Fisher
John Fisher

another gay excuse. idk about the states but if you go downtown here in israel, plenty of good looking natural girls. (again here in the PUA community we consider israeli girls to be bitchy but another story)

for tinder, sorry but only a small amount of female hopes is put into this app and it competes with a lot of guys. many of whom pay up to 800 nis (250$~~) for pro photoshoots by specialist photographers

I suggest either hiring a pro to make it clear how you will cut it in tinder or relocating your efforts to a better area.

if everyone in your american county is fat from whatever it is americans do that fattens them up , you are out of luck. if you were a russian playboy and moved into sydney you are just as fucked as the guy who moved into india and wants a clean toilet.

Thomas Richardson
Thomas Richardson

I know that feel. you are this clueless kid who does typical teenage stuff and then you see half the girls in your school in the teenage "high society" getting into all kinds of weird stuff.

then they complain that a 25 year old dude who finally put 1+1 together does not want to take a 20 year mortgage with their asses.

Brayden King
Brayden King

The greeks believed the brain was a cooling organ for the blood so what

Luke Foster
Luke Foster

I am currently in the same boat, trying to motivate myself to go out again. but being out of a job pulls me into the neet life again.

Christopher Fisher
Christopher Fisher

Hiring a pro photographer is a bit overkill imo. However, I bought one of those cheap tripods for smartphones and spent a whole day taking good pictures, which made a HUGE difference in my amount of matches.

Nathan Rivera
Nathan Rivera

Go get hobbies before it's too late too meet people user

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