I know off topic but hoping this is the Chad board. Kissless virgin here finally trying to lose it. I'm getting maybe 1 or 2 7/10+, 3 average and 3 trainwrecks per day.
I got 10+ at the start but that's gone right down maybe cause being more picky. Got one person who was ready to fuck but backed out very last minute.
Are my raw numbers of matches good? I look pretty mediocre. How does it sound like I'm doing?
Tinder is a jewish site promoting the destruction of family values and bonding ability. Why would you go out of your way to give whores attention and jews money?
I'm a 25 yo neet virgin bro I'm not ready for a relationship just want to lose the fucking thing.
and there lies your problem. you are a fucking adult by this age so should be looking for a wife. not some manchild like (((they))) want you to be.
stop focusing on sex and focus on being a good practical useful man. have a purpose and provide for yourself... if it shows that you can provide for yourself then women with see that as attractive because they see that you can provide for them also and your future children
if you don't have deformities and your expression/posture isn't weird tinder is pretty much all about some dumbass subliminal stuff that a pro photographer will help you fix + your location.
>da j00s
cringe
ah yes, unlike Jow Forums which emphasizes christian values and healthy social habits
suck a festering cock, faggot
go back to your containment board kid
calling anything with sincerity or passion cringe is an obvious symptom of the apoplexy of current generations, you cannot commit to anything worth while or meaningful.
it is easier for you to mock and hide behind your shield of irony
Unlike tinde, Jow Forums has different aspects, you can come here for Männerbüde, outdooring or papercrafting and cocking. Tinder is just for sex. You can be celibat and holy while eeing here, it's actually a good test of disciplin. You're just weak.
This. Peak infantilization.
>cocking
Freudian slip
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More like non-native speaker and too lazy too check which was which again.
just because he has the mindset of a horny 18-year-old when it comes to sex doesn't mean he's infantilizing himself. it's possible to be all about providing for himself and shit and moving forward in his life while still wanting to fuck a random broad or two.
nevermind scratch that i just read the part where he says he's a neet, when it comes to op in particular he's being a faggot. but still what i said can apply to people with actual lives.
He obsesses about a jewish hetero grinder website, he's not just slaying on the side. He'll get some STDs through some thots and make his chick infertile thanks to antibiotic resistant chlamydia. Fucking whores is not something someone with a longterm plan does.
i lost my virginity through tinder 3 months ago, since i placed so much weight on myself being a virgin i botched multiple previous chances since i was nervous, however since i basically swiped right on everyone eventually one really ugly girl, she had large aps between her teeth. messaged me, since i was a desperate 22 year old we messaged and she came over to my place, even though i honestly thought she was repulsive my dick told me otherwise and we ended up having sex, but i was a two pump chump so that didnt last very long and she went home, it was all very tense and nervous.
After that ive had a 30 year old brazilian woman come over and had sex and have dates planned with 3 other girls as well. much better looking.
Only after i lost my virginity did i realize it doesnt matter at all, i do feel its good to have gotten rid of that "mental block" i had before since i am not nervous around women anymore. but i do wish i had given it to someone i actually desired and liked instead.
Ok cockgobbler whatever you want me to think
kek, don't listen to the /sig/tards, user.
Yes you should get a job and have ambition. You should also fuck bitches, because staying celibate will turn you into a dull moron that nobody wants to associate with.
"Focus" is for low-grade individuals who can't handle having multiple things going on in their lives.
Also, your numbers are very good matchwise.
You should have closed the deal by now. Work on your texting game. Straight up asking for sex is not as great as people would have you believe. Women don't like feeling like whores, so ask them to meet up for a beer, not sex, build a little bit of emotional connection and then fuck.
>Fucking whores is not something someone with a longterm plan does.
Jesus Christ I can smell the virgin in that sentence
How many things do I wanna she was just in mind and that I wasn’t able enough for her
Thanks bro can you give me some tips?
This is someone (job: nurse in training) I had no fucking luck with a few days ago I just had zero idea where to take the conversation. Like where am I even meant to go? I brought up nursing then the convo just died after about 5 replies
>Tinder says I have "25+" matches waiting if I buy tinder gold
>Swipe until there's nobody new
>No matches
Fuck tinder.
Based strokeposter quads
>provide for them
cuck
and there you are sounding like a 14yo obsessed with pleasing yourself with any whore you can get your hands on.
It truly is a sad day when this is what has become of our men.
>can't handle having multiple things going on in their lives
we arnt supposed to be mating with any whore we find, the primordial truth is that we raise the children we do have with one woman, not leave them to die in the wilderness like some savage
Another one with nothing to go on (she is a student). No bio, 3 pics of her, this one and then one in Paris I think
Most convos will die, even for the most extreme chads. It's like for 10 matches you'll get 1 convo going, and for 10 convo you'll get one date.
It is a grind. But it can be a fun grind if you don't take it too seriously.
found the nigger
i swallowed my pride and downloaded it last night. im trying to get more comfortable talking to women so i dont sperg out around waifu material. i've learned something pretty quick: every girl on there has an ass shot, some office reference, zodiac signs, or some dog joke
>25yo virgin neet
>"i just want to fuck a girl"
>aims for a pretty teenager that straight up says she's looking for long-term
>tries to force a conversation when it falls flat
>too young for him anyway
cringe
I'm married and I'm speaking from experience. It's the virgin which runs after the holes in heat.
tell her you'll love her long time, op
then speak to real women in person.. you arnt going to develop any real world social skills by texting some thot mate.
You're replying to 3 different persons lad.
You're also a sad little virgin with delusions of grandeur. There's nothing special about "today". Men have always gone after women, and all the great leaders have been womanizers. Which you would know if you ever opened a history book. Napoleon, Bismarck, Henry the IVth have all enjoyed what nature gave them.
But hey, sour grapes I guess.
Oh fuck that's a relief. The thing is I'm a 4/10 absolute best, maybe being tall (very skinny though) scrapes me into average. I think my profile was quite funny so worried they're swiping out of curiosity but with zero intentions of sex.
>believing an 18 yo is actually looking for "husband material"
lmfao
Imagine commiting your life to tinfoil conspiracies and blaming an ethnic group for not veing able to get laid
Unlike those great men which actually accomplihsed something and had a wife and kids going, you're just lusting after cunts because you can't control yourself. That's pathetic.
that's not entirely true, i had horrible social anxiety as a teenager and spent a lot of time texting randos. it really helped me prevent becoming the massive sperg people usually become when they're in that situation. by the time i turned 20 i actually had pretty good social skills
>it's not the je..oh
Why would she have swiped right then? I know I'm an autist and Ive tried everyone average looking she just had a profile I couldn't reply to.
>it's different because I said "unlike"
Just like I said, fucking bitches doesn't prevent you from accomplishing anything.
i've tried 3 times and the last attempt, the girl ended up killing herself (other 2 ended poor as well). i have no trouble talking to women in my classes but as soon as i see them as possible gf material, i get a mental block. im 21 now and my mental is fucked so i need to work my up so i dont become a wizard
the dudes right, I regret fucking girls in my teens and not waiting as it screwed with my perception of relationships. Having the mindset of just wanting to fuck around for a few years before you ‘settle’ is wrong, it’s why marriages don’t stay together and kids grow up to single mothers who don’t want them
Value yourself and your relationships, be with people who genuinely mean something to you and no less. I’m not saying abstinence but certainly avoid tinder and chasing pussy.
The horny teenager trope isn't entirely true, they're not as retarded and short-sighted as older people make them out to be.
all the great leaders you listed also had a number of high quality women to choose from being that they were as leaders seen as high providers.
this is contrary to my point of OP and other faggots here choosing to degrade their own worth by sleeping with low grade thots.
I think my point was self evident it wasnt about having highly compatible mates or many wives, it was about self worth.
besides I already have a wife and children you basement dweller
one quote by a jew totally proves all ths conspiracies
Also the existence of the KKK proves all white people want to genocide blacks, SJWs were right the whole time
Of course they aren't that horny. But they are also not looking for "husband material", they are looking for a perfect man that will replace daddy. Teenagers are not interested in the actual hardship of marriage, they don't understand that the way to a stable life is gonna be hard. They want a dude who already has everything which is why they end up banging some old fucks and then complaining "bwah wah why are all men pigs"
nothing in my post related to any ethnic group, wew lad seeing what you want to see there
It does when it's your priority. Men only accomplish something to get laid. That's how civilization got build. If men fuck whores through an app, men do not need to accomplish anything anymore and remain neets or off themselves. Self-discipline and longterm thinking is the only thing which prevents that.
I didn't get any when I tried it but I also live in a small city, used 5km radius and didnt buy premium tinder. Meeting girls offline is not a problem though.
>Also the existence of the KKK proves all white people want to genocide blacks, SJWs were right the whole time
Well, I'm not gonna argue my feeling, desu.
lel, just because Tinder exists doesn't mean your sex life becomes disconnected from your accomplishments
>men only do things to get laid
Who's the manchild obsessed with sex now? I do the things I do because I enjoy them and they give meaning to my life. Pussy is a side dish, an important one, not the fucking goal. If all I wanted was pussy I'd be a musician of a chocolate maker, not a fucking physicist.
>providers
You sound like a cuck.
Bismarck was fucking left and right before his rise to power too.
>Who's the manchild obsessed with sex now?
That's how the world has gone to where it is. Men build shit to attract womens eggs. Even if you think you do something for yourself, you're doing what your (preselected for millenia) genes make you enjoy, like competeing with other men, beeing fit and using your brain.
If you want "pussy" bond with one and stay together instead of whoring yourself out and breaking whatever bonding ability you still have.
>18
>25
>too young
Lmao, the average age difference between married couples is the man being 5 years older
Hell my dad is like 13 years older than my mom, he married her when she was 20 and my dad was 33. Their marriage has lasted whereas most of my friends' parents are divorced
>Even if you think you do something for yourself, you're doing what your (preselected for millenia) genes make you enjoy
Yes, natural selection has selected genes to make me enjoy abstract physics calculations, what the fuck am I reading? Evopsych is where original thoughts go to die.
Nigger there's a whole millennia-old institution for people who are accomplished and yet do not seek pussy, it's called the Catholic Church. Sexless elites are a fact of life and put a serious thorn into the foot of your little simplistic theory. Human drives are a lot more complex than that.
And if it's just "gene programming" then Tinder won't affect it.
Yeah relax, you're doing OK
Get a fucking job though, or at least some ambition.
Pro tip: think of tinder as a meme and use it as such. It is a flawed proxy to measure your self worth and if you just have fun with it girls are more likely to be attracted to you as you b urself
I get about 5 per week or so. Unfortunately none of them reply when I send a message. No idea why though. It’s pretty disheartening
They receive hundred of messages. If the hook isn't interesting enough they won't bother.
None but I'm too selective
>"your photographer"
>tfw zero friends or social life
How do I get pictures???
Literally go see a pro. I did that for my resume pictures. It's not expensive and they know how to make you look amazing.
>Nigger there's a whole millennia-old institution for people who are accomplished and yet do not seek pussy, it's called the Catholic Church.
That's called self-disciplin, retard. You aint grown with celibacy. hey sacrifice (open) reproduction for spiritual and sometimes material gain. Which can easily be described as missunderstanding ones bodies sygnals, which does pressure you to go for those things, but to not forget that they are only means for a goal.
And you're again wrong. Nurture can easily deform nature. You wont be your potential height no matter what if you only eat shit and soda.
In like 6 months I'd had 500 matches and fucked 15 of em
Human behavior is complex but he's correct in that everything is genetically determined.
>Yes, natural selection has selected genes to make me enjoy abstract physics calculations
Yes it has, where the fuck else do you think you got them? Being able to perform complex mental calculations is an enormous aid to survival. The fact that you take pleasure in doing so is yet another indication that intelligence was selected for in your ancestors.
I deleted tinder. Used to get maybe 4 matches per week, led to a couple really shitty dates. Do not reccomend. also
>fit
>Chad board
kek
And none of this has to do with the idea that I'm somehow running after pussy without knowing it.
There are hundreds of better strategies I would have followed if it was all about getting sex.
Same thing for priests. Saying "it's self-discipline" doesn't explain why elites willingly choose paths that get them away from pussy. It's also weird that you'd think people would choose that life out of "self-discipline", but wouldn't have the self-discipline to accomplish things if not to get access to pussy.
You're just blabbering the first pseudoscientific evopsych crap that comes to your mind.
Yeah I know, I actually put effort into first messages. Maybe they can sense my autism
There isn't a single archeological trace of hunger gatherers using mathematics besides tallying.
Ive never used Tinder because I'm happily married.
Do people really plan casual encounters on Tinder or is that just a meme?
>It's also weird that you'd think people would choose that life out of "self-discipline", but wouldn't have the self-discipline to accomplish things if not to get access to pussy.
Just like homosexuality, non-reproduction for the greater good of the ethnic ingroup is evolutionary useful exactly because it leads the available pussy to peak performance, as did the Catholic Church through making virginity and monogamy without a right for contraception mandatory. Without thoe guys which do not reproduce themselves, the women without guidance would simply prevented some births or fucked uneless individuals.
Just because you don't understand something, doesn't make is disappear.
Arkhain and Göbekli Tepe. Without mathematics there is no astronomy.
I don't have a single decent photo of myself. I don't have a single group photo from the past 5 years to use as proof I'm not 100% autistic.
I downloaded tinder and never made a profile.
I'm not really Jow Forums though so there's this issue as well.
Went through 100 matches over like three months, fucked about ten of them. Kinda was on autopilot for most of it, just to get my nut and chill. My favorites were;
>completely tattooed EXTRA THICC girl with huge tits that was a hardline communist (fucked her to see if I could bullshit myself through it even though I'm pretty conservative politically)
>tiny chinese chick (weird fuck, very satisfying tho)
>french girl with beautiful ass
I also have to admit that I fucked some 5s and a 4 because I just desperately needed to nut (nofap and noporn will do that to a man). As for advice, just grind it and don't think about it too much. I'd write random bullshit, flirt a bit and then set up a meet. Though to be honest, I got much higher quality girls much more easily by just talking to them irl when I had the balls for it, so I recommend just doing that for maximum test boost lol.
Honestly, "just grind through and don't think about it" works for most things in life - overthinking is what leads to feels and autism.
The astronomical hypothesis for Gobekli Tepe is still unconfirmed innit?
And it's only 8000 years ago, there is virtually 0 genetic difference between people 8000 years ago and now.
8000years ago? Are you retarded? They are at least 9800 years old and that's only the upper most structure, three can be found according to Klaus Schmidt who unearthed them. This is Hunter Gatherer civilization. Same goes for Arkaim. They didn't suddenly start building it without prior knowledge of proper math. Just like with the restructured Stonehenge, astronomical usage is pretty much considered fact. You need to stop thinking that modern human where somehow retarded back in the day, when all we know shows that we're just currently coming back to their bodily strength and health.
And what are you on about differences? Of course we're the same, for nearly 400.000 years. That doesn't mean that we haven't epigenetically and therefore genetically evolved.
Zero m8. I swiped for 3 weeks accepting everyone, got zero matches.
Sometimes life throws you a curveball OP.
Just go and lift again, ignore woman, you'll feel happier with yourself.
>8/10 face and body
>still get 0 fucking matches in 2 weeks despite swiping right on average homely girls
I guess I'm an incel now
>This is Hunter Gatherer civilization
by virtue of building complex structures and cities it probably wasn't
more likely there was a series of fairly complex/advanced civilizations that did have collapses and rises going farther back than originally thought
>by virtue of building complex structures and cities it probably wasn't
The Yamnaya civilization was also nomadic in nature and most likely build similar structure to Arkain. There is no reason to think that a HG/ pastoral society can't manage that shit.
Either way, we're pretty much OT.
>One quote by one jew.
I know... That you know... That this is not merely a coincidence.
Had Tinder and Bumble for about a couple of months. Think between them both I had about 350 matches or so in a city of about 1 million people.
Personal stats: 6 foot, bout 12-13% body fat, can lift 1/2/3/4, pretty boy, cool job, lots of good pictures with travel in it, so that might have something to do with my high number of matches.
Strategy: Depended on the girl. I'd almost always start off genuine to feel things out and then get pretty raunchy.
Results: I met 20 girls IRL during this time and fucked about half of them. The first few went nowhere bc I was pretty autistic. The very first date I went on was this porn star looking 20 year old who wanted to fuck but I was so clueless that I couldn't even seal the deal. By the time I uninstalled it I was having sex with four different girls. Tinder was like a boot camp for me in terms of learning how to date and fuck girls.
Feel free to ask me anything, I figured out the Tinder game pretty well. Had everything from more traditional dates, to having girls come over and fuck right then and there.
>all these low numbers
I have literally over 300 matches wtf
a-am I Chad?
>height
>fit
>good job
>aesthetic
Are you happy? Is sex satisfying?
>8/10 face and body
>still get 0 fucking matches
I got some bad news for you, buddy
>provide for yourself... if it shows that you can provide for yourself then women with see that as attractive
Lol western society is only afloat because there's millions of incels working soul-killing office jobs.
>are you happy?
Yeah. I don't believe all the people on here saying fucking thots is empty and not worth it. Maybe it is but it's fun and it makes me happy.
>is sex satisfying?
Completely depends on the girl. There's only been a few I liked enough to have sex with more than once. The others didn't make the cut because they got too clingy and it freaked me out.
He knows more about being a man than you do. Stop being a child and grow up
The point is we didn't genetically evolve to do something we started doing a few millenia ago. The ability to do abstract math is a side effect of our brain ability to process information. Similarly, the drive for excellence might be a side effect of sexual selection, but it doesn't mean that any specific individual is motivated by a quest for sex only. The Japanese fighter pilots surviving in the jungle for years weren't waiting for fucking pussy.
You don't need to have inceldom dangling in front of your face to have ambition. In fact the most thriving people tend to be dudes who never had any issue getting pussy.
>The point is we didn't genetically evolve to do something we started doing a few millenia ago.
We didn't start building civilization fro women a millenia ago, retard. Building a safe and comfy cave for your neanderthal waifu meant improving from the status quo and the man which could provise better got the better (or any) woman to give on his seed.
>but it doesn't mean that any specific individual is motivated by a quest for sex only.
That's the only reason you do anything, because procreation is the only thing really important for a human. Everything else you do is a sideproject. getting offspring and getting them as far in front as possible is your priority. if you know that you can't fullfill your prime directive you'll become depressive and want to off yourself, because a life without direct or at least indirect procreation is useless.
>The Japanese fighter pilots surviving in the jungle for years weren't waiting for fucking pussy.
That's indirect procreation. THrough their sacrifice they assured, in their mind, the survival of their sisters and other family members, which was for them genetically beneficial even if they themselves could not reproduce.
You don't understand what you're talking about.
> In fact the most thriving people tend to be dudes who never had any issue getting pussy.
Of course, if you do not need to go 100% to even get a pussy, you can use the remeining energy on productive side quests like leading civilization. Further monogamy and early marriage secure a constant sex possibility for you, freeing your mind from the pursue.
Tinder is the exact opposite. You are constantly obsessing with the next ONS, and never reall settling down, because you'll become unable to bond and sacrifice.
>indirect procreation
See, this is the problem with your simplistic model. When you're trying to make facts fit in it, you're ready to distort anything into "indirect procreative drive". But when you're making normative injunctions based off it, apparently only a really narrow class of behaviour is in alignment with the big "hurr durr everything is about sex" theory.
Really your armchair evopsych system of thought is sophomoric and wouldn't survive even a cursory study of psychology or social psychology. I also thought I was super clever for discovering the concept of libido when I was 15. Then I realized people sublimate their desires in other way than "gotta put my peepee in fecund hole".
>See, this is the problem with your simplistic model.
That's not my model. That's what we know from biology and genetics. That's why with each male birth the later male child has a higher risk of becoming homosexual due to accumulating progesteron and other male induced proteins by each male child. Nature prevents too much male rivalry through making those individuals seek indirect reroduction through succesfully benefit their nearest family. That's how ingroup preferance works, as the biological extension of your genpool. That's how celibat males in high positions can benefit their families genetic succes more than reproducing themselves.
You're just retarded and this discussion is over due to your low IQ replies.
I go to 99+ after about a day or two. I'm not that attractive. Matches are usually like 6+
>that's what we know from biology band genetics
No, neither of those fields describe that pussy is the only drive you can have. That's what you think you know from your lack of intellectual curiosity.
The existence of childless elite can't be explained away by kin selection either because there's a wealth bof successful clerics who either didn't have a family or didn't perform any favors for them.
You're just making the classic uneducated evopsych fallacy of thinking evolution implies that everything that's in our body has a specific purpose. The old "there must be an evolutionary reason that bones are white" train of thought, a.k.a the teleological fallacy. There's a wealth of shit in the human psyche that is a byproduct and not a direct tool for sexual selection.
>Tinder is bad because the constant sex will mean you won't have the drive to improve
>marriage is good because the constant sex will mean you can think about something else
The lack of consistency is astounding too.
>No, neither of those fields describe that pussy is the only drive you can have.
Your biological prime directive does. Nothing else matters if you can procreate and secure your (families) offsprings existance. Nothing else. If you can't grasp that because you're still to much of a pussywiped kid, there is no reason to keep it on. You learn it hopefully yourself once you become a father (if).
>Everything is a fallacy
Ah, it's the fallacy retard. How many times to we need to teach you those lessons, son?
>Tinder is bad because the constant sex will mean you won't have the drive to improve
>marriage is good because the constant sex will mean you can think about something else
Tinder takes away your drive to do anything because you still constantly have to complete your prime directive. Having a preggo waifu at home gives you time to think about other thinks than procreation. Easy as that. And now begone, mongo.
How do you open with a way that makes them at all interested in you, and how fast do you then have to swing the conversation into getting her number/setting up a date
none. Cos I don't play the thot lottery.