38 year old virgin here

Did you miss the part where he says he's a 39-year-old VIRGIN? Dude can't be picky. Stop giving him shitty advice.

A (female) kid is just a plus anyways because he can groom her for continously guaranteed pussy in the future when momma starts to sag and droop.

Well, I'm passed the desperation stage so I don't want to do anything dumb and just take anything that comes my way.

Well obviously she wants help with the kid. Is that really the end of the world though? I don't want to be used just for that though. I have no way of knowing what her intentions are.

I don't know the details, we're not super close or anything.

She is extraordinarily pretty. I'm a pediatric dentist.

It's honestly better to be alone, or go for some less attractive single woman or divorcee. Being a single (non-widowed) parent is an indicator of shitty character. Unless she has made noticeable character improvements, she will almost certainly fuck you over.

Also
>Degenerate RP
Get some help.

>I have no way of knowing what her intentions are

Yes you do. You're an ATM to her until proven otherwise. What signs are there of good character in her?

>38yo virgin
>19yo single mom
>5yo daughter

Holy crap, how can someone get into such a fucked up situation?

Do you enjoy spending time with her? is she a decent, responsible person? Do you think she'll be loyal?

go for it OP, plus you can pump out a couple children of your own from her

I fuckin love this board

>Well obviously she wants help with the kid. Is that really the end of the world though? I don't want to be used just for that though. I have no way of knowing what her intentions are.

Considering you are a fucking 38 yo virgin then I guarantee she is not attracted to you.

The only way to know for sure is if she allows you to impregnate her too, which I doubt.

It's obviously a trap, dude... Like even if she doesn't *mean* it to be. It can be okay, it can be great. But you both don't seem like you know how to make great decisions regarding people and how you conduct your relationships.

Plus what could happen to your rep/practice if she goes nutso on you.

I'm not that close with her but she seems like a really sweet girl. She's polite and soft spoke, she seems like a nice mom too. She didn't immediately hop on my crotch when I told her I was single. She told me sometime later she liked me.

Like is a fun ride.

I like being around her, she's a sweet girl. Responsible? Well, depends on why she's a single mom I suppose but from what I've seen she seems like a caring sweet mom. I have no way of knowing if she'd be loyal, I'd just be guessing. She's not a trashy girl though like half the moms I encounter.

>Rich, older dude
>Pretty, young, single mom
>"I don't know what her intentions are."

Dude, you're a smart guy. Connect the dots.

>19
>5 year old daughter
>responsible
>loyal

I quit. OP is a dumbass motherfucker. I hope they get married and she gets every single cent from this retard's pocket.

>pediatric dentist
Are you a Chad? Why are you still a virgin?

Op is a fucking retard. I'm only 20 and I know how this is going to go down. She marries you. You raise the child and help her pay for it. After the child is old enough and you are ancient she divorces your autistic ass and takes your money and leaves to find someone her age. My advice. Jack off and determine if it's worth it. Stop thinking with your dick.

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Nobody likes or respects dentists. They have one of the highest occupational suicide rates.

I'm not rich. I could immediately assume she's just after money but I could also assume that about every woman and then I'll just end up being back where I started. If that's true of every woman then does it really matter at that point? What a conundrum.

Relax. Even if I started dating her, marriage is nowhere near my mind.

Chad? Obviously not. I'm just...some guy? There's nothing special about me. I'm not ugly or socially inept, I'm just some guy. As for why I'm a virgin, I don't know. I'm not a suave charismatic guy so women don't naturally gravitate towards me. I don't know how to approach women, at all. I've never tried. Becoming a dentist is really hard too. So school consumed my life until I was 26 and then I was in this awkward situation where I was working all the time and never socializing. Before I knew it I just ended up like this. I feel like I was in my 20s yesterday, time flies.

The only reason I have a possibility right now is because she approached me about it and I didn't really have to do anything.

>38 year old virgin
Im kinda more interested in what was being a virgin like before the days of smartphones and in the late90s-07

The financial motives are more likely to be there for some women than others. For example, a financially independent woman supporting only herself is less likely to be gold digging than someone who, say, pays for herself and a dependent. It's an odds game is all. Plus like you said, you have no reason to think she's improved herself since being knocked up. And she's also, by your own indirect admission, our of your league physically.

C'mon, man.

Every woman is a gold digger, even the "successful" ones. There are no odds, if she breathes she's a gold digger.

Not true. Gold digger implies she's doing it for personal gain - women only look for better jobs in men because that is a sign that the man will be able to take care of babies. It's all about reproduction, at a base level.

"BIG CHIEF MAN HAVE BIG HOUSE. MANY FOOD. HE FEED BABY GOOD."

no one is gonna ask the most important question?
ok I'll do it : Is her daughter white?

>Gold digger implies she's doing it for personal gain
Which is literally every woman. You're more naive than OP.

It's important to remember that this woman is probably thinking in the long-term, and looking for someone to settle down with. Female standards for men change when they look for a long-term partner.

They want someone dependable, with a good job, with house-making skills, who can help them care for children. So while he might be out of her league physically, that is probably not what she's looking for. She most likely finds him sexy because she got fucked over when she was a young teenager and hasn't gotten the chance to find someone who isn't a degenerate to help take care of her baby and start a better, larger family.

look op, get her number and start to talk with her over text.
text her and get to know her over the course of a week. if by the end of the week, you only want to fuck this chick, then just jerk off.
you should be able to pick up on any red flags personality wise.

i hate women and i plan on staying a virgin forever

Bingo. Women look for providers, but good women love their men for their virtues, and will make sacrifices for them. Gold diggers will be in it only for themselves. And being a single parent often demonstrates a lack of moral fiber and intelligence.

fuck, is the MOTHER white, really

>19 yo with a 5 yo kid

Its obvious shes just trying to fuck you so she can get help with the kid

Coming from a person who was actually raised by a mom who was pretty much in the exact same situation (not the original kid, but actually a kid of the next guy to come along), I can say this situation doesn't always turn out bad. She made a terrible mistake when she was younger, had a shitty life with her child because of it, and then found an older man who she liked, married, and had a bunch of kids with. They had very few marital issues, went out all the time/loved each other (and still do), and all of their kids turned out well - even the original kid. So don't automatically disqualify her, because she might end up being OK.

There will be a lot of pros and cons with such a venture. Good and bad moments, social stigma, but I'm sure you know it.
I'm a lvl 37 wiz, betting my money on getting stabbed to death and reincarnated as a isekai slime this year instead though.

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honestly don't listen to these retards you have an opportunity to lose your virginity you want something from her and she wants something from you

Just do it you'll gain some confidence and maybe have a chance to fuck other girls afterwards, buy her whatever she wants for her kids for a few weeks and then dump her you'll have both gained something from each other

Everyone always says having sex for the first time is terrible, but I wonder how it'd be for a 38 year old man fucking a 19 year old woman

absolutely amazing??
and original

Be wise and make use of the situation, OP. If it evolves into a relationship then you can just think of it as a simple transaction, you get sex and she gets some companionship/support.
Do NOT get invested into it, do NOT give her more money or support her kid more beyond the reasonable, do NOT marry her. Just enjoy the chance, but don't set yourself up for a through financial fucking.
Lastly, contrary to what anons may expect, there are indeed some decent girls, i myself know of one such case where a 20 years old girl stayed with a 40 years old man, the guy even cheated on her multiple times and had a couple of kids with someone else but she stayed with him until he died of old age.

>losing your virginity to a 19 year old qt
Fuck yeah my dude

>19 yo with 5 year old daughter
>she birthed the kid at 14
hot

Get with her and groom the daughter to be your wife

Never said it always happens that way. One of my best buds was raised by a single mom who did a pretty good job and married and honest man. It's kinda like how not all mushrooms you find outside are poisonous. You're not guaranteed to get horribly ill, but there are other food options out there that aren't so risky.

One could argue that if you go on a few dates with her, you could start to coax out her true character and find out if it's worth it. This is true on paper, but it's so easy to have your objectivity compromised by female beauty. I always vote that it's best to not get involved with women with so much baggage.

>19 year old
>single mom
>5 year old daughter
big yikes

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People who get caught up in this scare me. I don't want time to fly just like that.

lol ur dads a cuck m8.

why the fuck would you want to lose it at 38. wtf, im a 28 kv and you have 10 years on me dude, wtf its wayyyy too late imo. you're past the point of experiencing teenage love, now you're with some used up whore and her bastard child

not to mention this would be a work relationship with a female with a young child, so she is probably kinda crazy. work relationships almost universally go bad and it usually results in getting fired from that job, so you're playing with fire here. if you really value the job then its a horrible idea, but if you dont care then maybe

personally ive just accepted im dying a virgin and am just waiting for space jesus to arrive at this point, but you do you. like why waste your virginity like that, theres some spiritual value with being a virgin, and its not like you are going to be able to experience love or anything with this used up whore and her bastard child

If being a cuck results in a happy existence with a dedicated partner for the rest of your life, I'd say being a cuck sounds pretty great to me desu

is the kid black?

this is very important

No it's not, you racist. She made a big mistake regardless of the father's skin color. Even if it's a white baby, she still carried another man's child. She still lacked the foresight to practice optimally safe sex.

Why is everyone acting like he's going to marry her? It's just easy poon.

yo you really seem to have a shit personality

> what was being a virgin like before the days of smartphones and in the late90s-07

this i wish op would answer

In some countries like Canada simply being in a sexual relationship makes her entitled to your possessions and money the same way marriage does

Because that is what virgins do, you lose your V card to a girl, you fall in love with her

based virgin is based

>No it's not, you racist
racism is not unethical or immoral. theres nothing morally wrong with racial discrimination or any discrimination

It ultimately shows that you're a poor judge of character. That meaning, you barely judge character at all -- you work off of group averages instead of individuals' merits.

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Shes gonna get you good and comfortable raising the kid while she parties her 20's away, fucking kids her age from school. Dont do it.

im sure there are convicted child molesters with a great kind personality and some hookers with a heart of gold, but theres a reason why people are averse to respecting these demographics

have fun loving your used up whore who got pregnant with some chad's baby and decided you'd make a perfect cuck father. just to let you know she secretly hates you and is repulsed by you, but because you are financially stable you're a great catch to her and her bastard

Fuck her and drop her.
If she has a kid at that age she has mental issues. Don't stick with her no matter what you do.

>Fuck her and drop her.
he cant drop her because he WORKS with her. she will sue him a million ways to sunday the second the relationship goes sour, and she will tolerate a lot of his autism to get close to him because he is financially well off

women are shameless soulless whores and op is falling in love with some used up roastie and her cute bastard. if he had an actualy brain he'd not get close with her and her bastard in the slightest and ideally try to get her removed from his work or at the very least not spend any of his personal time getting anywhere close to this diabolical single mother

op is you want to lose your virginity you need to go out of your way to do so, this is the optimal way to go about it. dont mix your personal life and your work life, this is fucking dumb. go pay a prositute, or get some mail order virgin bride that signed like 20 different pre-nups to date casually or find something out of your volition that is better than this single mother, because secretly she is poison

but whatever, maybe you secretly want her ruin your job and profession or something, fuck if i know. you do you bro

I mean daughters are easier to raise than sons
Go for it dude, as long as its not half black

WHAT A FUCKING KEKLORD OMG LMAO XDDDD

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heres some tom leykis to listen to op. he touches the subjects of dating single mothers and workplace relationships. this was back when radio and men in general weren't nearly as cucked and you can get away with saying some outrageous shit on the radio, over a decade ago, before pc culture became a thing

tom leykis was a nerd loser like you and after getting rich, he used his money to get laid much more often and just stayed banging teens and brags about it. it seems to me as if you dont like the idea of being a virgin and you want to leverage your financial stability into getting poon, well if you're going to do this there are simply BETTER options than dating used up whores with bastards at your place of employment

i hope you listen to these in your spare time, they are very entertaining and very informative. personally myself im dying a virgin, but these are great for a laugh regardless. if you're going to lose ur virginity and date girls, you might as well do it correctly

when this thread gets archived besure to keep us updated user

If she seems responsible and you genuinely like spending time with her, then I'd go for it. Just be careful that you're not dating her out of desperation from being a 38 year old virgin. I would definitely spend some time thinking about it first, but it doesn't seem like a bad idea.

This. Two for the price of one. Price might be a bit steep if you fuck up and marry her, but what the fuck else are you gonna spend all your dentist money on?

He can marry the daughter but not the mom.

Do whatever makes you happy user. Principle be damned, its your life. Dont feel like you have to make a decision for anyone but yourself

No wonder why you're a virgin, literally asking this shit board if you want to fuck a 19 year old. You're a literal autist.
Fuck the girl then decide if she's worth long term

>guy fucks a 19 year old
>19 year old fucks with the life of a guy who had it stable for 38 years

She's literally free pussy, whos asking for money here?
Stay an incel

we still dont know if op works with this girl or not. he said he met her through work, but if op doesnt work with this girl then thats a diferent issue

maybe~~? its possible? i dont know, but you do you op, keep up updates with all the juicy drama

>19
>signle mother
>kid is 5

stay the fuck away from that trainwreck, get a prostitute.

You're losing altitude considering going into a nosedive.

How can one person fuck up that badly?

>19 year old wants a daddy for her and a daddy for her kid
>user wants some fresh teen/20-something pussy
>guaranteed to still be be better than what you can normally get 20 years from now when user is nearly 60 and she's still just under 40

Depends on how desperate you are

>RP

This is Jow Forums

Not OP, but when I was 20 I though I'd hit some college puss and never end up like the NEETs on this website and now it's years later and I've procrastinated that to the point where I'm now aiming for the grad school/entry-level roastie puss instead. So you know, procrastination.

>She's literally free pussy

pussy is not free you dumb fuck. it comes with the price of a false rape accusation, STD or child support extortion at gun point.

>Would it be a bad idea to date a 19 year old single mom?
>Would it be a bad idea to date...single mom?
Yes. Only legitimately hopeless onionboys have any interest in single mothers.

No.

I don't work with her. I met her because of work but she doesn't work with me, sorry if that wasn't clear. I'm her child's dentist.

So you're gonna clean her daughter's mouth during the day and clean the mother's pipes at night. I like it.

What do you want to know? I can tell you that it was extremely lonely. There was no Tinder or Facebook or any social media, you had to actually go outside to meet girls. I was never one for bar hopping or partying, I stayed in my dorm studying all throughout college and dental school. So needless to say I never got any female attention whatsoever and dating was impossible. Once I actually started working, it was painfully lonely.

Now we're here.

>I'm 38.
>Would it be a bad idea to date a 19 year old single mom?

This is a bad idea at any age.

>fresh
Sure man

Dont trust women OP
Regardless of "but shes sweet" and each case is different. You dont know how the teen pregnancy happened, what she tells you may not be the truth because she got close to your situation. Dont fall for that weird situation. If you really that desperate fuck some prostitute or kill yourself instead of living a patethic life(my case) its way too late for that age range and you know it.

If the majority here thinks its bad, it really is. You are smart enough to realize the whole situation.

dedicate your life to 2D and end it on a high vacation or something

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No matter what you do, you're gonna regret it. Guaranteed. She's gonna ruin your life. But you've already made up your mind.

PUMP AND DUMP! THIS IS YOUR RETRIBUTION! THIS IS YOUR MOMENT OP! REMEMBER ALL THAT PAIN, THOSE LONELY NIGHTS, HOW WOMEN ALWAYS DEEMED YOU LESS OF A MAN. IT'S GOT TURN NOW.
GIVE HER FALSE HOPE AND DESTROY THAT TRAINWRECK.

OP, do you have a big dick? Are you tall? How tall is she?

Why do you like this girl, OP? Whats so special about her?

YES IT'S A FUCKING BAD IDEA.

I mean. It could. COULD work. But theres a reason why she is a single mom especially one going after an older guy who presumedly is more wealthy than her.

Also nice b8

> 19
> kid is 5

So she had a kid at 14 years old, jesus christ it just getting earlier and earlier.