Thoughts on drugs

Don't lift while tripping

Why not? If you've been lifting long enough, you should be familiar enough with keeping good form to do it during a medium heavy trip.

I’ve quit weed for good (about 6-7 months ago), have also largely stopped drinking, I’ve done psylocibin 1 time a year the past 4 years. 3 good trips 1 spooky trip

Well done.

Literally every single drug fucks your mind in one way or another, alcohol included. Your best bet is to just embrace the natural euphoria your body provides you.

not worth the risk bro. stay safe out there

MDMA is a lot of fun but limit it to three times a year at the very most. Ive only done it a few times but every time Iran a great experience. Also it’s only really worth doing if you’re gonna go to a concert or a club. Would recommend tho.

Drugs hamper physical gains, but they are a worthwhile experience. MDMA, Shrooms, and Acid are fine for a few times a year. Anything else is garbage, addictive, and the high is nowhere near as good.

>be me, 19, just into otter mode
>finally starting to see gainz so I think I’m the man
>drop 350ug tab and punch a couple bongs with my mates before I decide to drive to the gym for a fat workout
>get to the gym about 8:30pm, after peak time but still a few people in
>go to the power rack in the corner and set up for a big chest/arms workout
>as I set up for bench press the acid starts to kick in visually, just keep doing my thing for another half hour or so no worries.
>half an hour passes, look at my phone and realise it’s been an hour and a half, haven’t been paying attention
>chest is very sore because I’ve just been benching sets of 8 reps for an hour and a half with lmao1pl8
>start to do superset of curls and shoulder press, start gathering my weights
At this point I’m tripping pretty hard, seeing shit, my mind is in another dimension and I’m just all over the place
>go up to crowd dj stand to change the music playing, pick “remember me” by blue boy
>pick it 20 times so it’s about an entire hour of gangangangangangangang
>keep lifting to the soundtrack of gangangang for a while
>cutie3.14 comes in as I’m doing preacher curls and comes straight up to me in my little corner of the gym
>asks “hey how much longer are you using this rack for?”
>”IM SORRY I CANT SPEAK RIGHT NOW IM TRIPPING ON ACID” I half yell at her over the sounds of the blue boy
>she looks visibly startled but I’ve stopped paying attention to her at this point just curling to the rhythm of the music
>finish up and leave, go back to my mates place for more cones

I needed to rest for a week because I couldn’t feel my body after that sesh I just let my mind go and couldn’t count how long I’d been lifting for

Lifts went up by 5kg each next time I went 10/10 would lift on acid again.

Cutie3.14 now stares at me and keeps her distance whenever we are in the gym at the same time

I got addicted to subutex again and now Im yearning for another shot, cant do shit without it. God damn, and Im out of money.

>dropping 350ug
>still able to lift
If you make up a story, at least make it believable you stupid faggot

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I think you should probably worry more about getting your life in order

it's nice for hitting PR's tho

Most hard drugs are trash. MDMA is sort of an exception, but it still damages the serotonin system.
As an adult the only drugs worth taking are psychedelics - for serious inner spiritual growth, not as toys.

Quit cold turkey now man. All that drug substitute bullshit is just addiction in another form. It's hard af to stop but if you need someone I'll share an email. Stay strong hermano.

Speed: I think it's the best drug to party, get's you hyped and you only need 2-3 lines per night if you only take it every second weekend or so

MDMA: Great feeling for 2,5-3h but the next day I feel depressed as shit. Don't want to take it ever again, only have twice so far.

Weed: Don't smoke more than once per week, it fucks you up even if you don't want to admit it because you've been brainwashed by (((them))) telling you 'bro its just a plant'. I know people who haven't get anything meaningful done in their lifes in the past 2 years because of weed. One of my friends went literally full schizo and aggressive towards his sister and his parents after smoking almost daily.

Shrooms: They're fun, but don't be a neurotic nutcase if you're gonna eat some. I usually just laugh my ass off for 20 minutes straight or think about "deep shit" while tripping. If possible, have some benzos ready to prevent a horror trip.

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350ug is a medium heavy trip, you could def still lift on that. If he had said 450+ I'd be more suspicious

The more often you take it the weaker the effects are. Are you sure you’ve dropped acid before?

Got off opioids myself but I wouldn't recommend them. Luckily I managed to quit before I went too far into the rabbit hole but you really won't want to stop once you start.

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Speed as in what drug? MDMA is so great but also he careful. Shrooms you nailed it. Just love trees.

Opiates are amazing. Also death. Don't start because you'll find it hard to stop.

>driving after multiple substances
I hope you hit a tree and kill yourself, faggot

And mushrooms (as long as you don't eat poisonous ones and kill yourself). Mushrooms are a bit milder and find I feel less fucked the next day).

Dude I'm super glad I was able to stop. I know if I continued down that path I'd end up dead because those Nods are too blissful.

> I bet you drive tired cuck it kills just as much as dui

To be honest almost all drugs are great as long as you don't overdo it. The social gains on MDMA, alcohol, weed, and amp are really good. The spiritual gains on psychs are really nice. Just don't be a retard and smoke weed every day like I used to do

Speed as in amphetamine sulphate I'd imagine. Poor man's cocaine they used to call it before poor men could afford to buy cocaine. Quite a fun drug but the come down is awful. Great for weight loss as it 100% suppresses the appetite - bad for gainz for exactly the same reason.

>compares psychedelics and weed use to driving tired
never gonna make it

LSD is literally perfect. You get the feel goods without the incrdible danger of MDMA, you get the visuals of shrooms without having to worry about any sick feeling, 8-12 hours of life-changing fun is the size of the tip of your finger and it's only $3-$7, and best of all: no hangover! In fact, the next day you will wake up with more clarity than you've ever felt in your life. A sort of mood that is almost otherworldly.

It just makes you understand everything, gives you a sort of introspection that is unmatched.

LSD is literally perfect.

hahahah md being a hard drug. Ive been taking caps for almost a year, going out twice a month. Yes it fks with ya for a day or two if youre going hard but otherwise I rather it over alcohol any day. I cant stand looking back at shit i say whilst drunk, On caps though im just a happy go lucky lad.

I know bro. Nodding is sweet bliss. I was always resistant to that dream sleep addiction. It is a powerful intoxicant though.

Ooh boy
Everyone seems to like LSD, but I just can't understand the hype. Sure you have these beautiful visions, but that is just it, you simply trip for hours seeing a cartoon world out there and little emotion attached to it. Mushrooms are a way to go Imo.
Weed is a simple no. Rarely can you find a legit weed that is not laced with thc to make it stronger, which in turn slowly fries your whole brain.
Cocaine is overrated, after a line you feel awesome and confident for only about 10 minutes until you need another line, wasting your money unnecessarily.
Amphetamines are a way to go thb.
There is a reason this drug is main one used in combat across the world ever since it was developed for soldiers. You feel like the shit when on it, it stimulates your whole cns to the point you don't feel fatique, pain and do some serious damage on it for prolonged period of time with 100 focus. But it does fuck with your brain and heart and it is very easy to fall addicted to.
PS I have not done any drugs

Rather have a shot of subutex and get shit done to be honest. No food either so its fucking abysmal.

>you simply trip for hours seeing a cartoon world
No you don't, retard.

Lol all these drug addicted sad people.
>Fucking up your brain with foreign substances
Never gonna make it.

>remember me
god I hate that track

Yes you do, druggie. You don't go to other dimensions and see ayylmaos while you are tripping.

if you think 350 is a "medium heavy trip" your dealer is fucking lying to you mate

speed wrecks your body way less than coke though

I haven't got a dealer, I buy online, and test everything I receive. I think you might just be a lightweight pussy m8

>hard drugs
no such thing. do what you want who gives a fuck. no its not going to hinder your gains unless youre doing them constantly the same can be said for eating doughnuts or drinking alcohol.

Oh you test your tabs of acid do you? That's cute, how do you do that sweetie?

i lost around 60 lbs all told from speed, but when i quit i put nearly 30 on from the massive appetite spikes you get during the withdrawal period. also rhabdomyolysis and injuries related to dehydration are actual concerns. i had several instances of minor rhabdo when i was using speed, especially early on when the shit i was getting got me ripped and was better in quality. dont follow in my footsteps unless youre a certified dipshit cuz i gave myself thyrotoxicosis from sustained, long-term use

You must really be a newbie lightweight. Or maybe your braindead dealer is just feeding you experimental chemicals.
Ehrlich test kits are only like 20 bucks on amazon. Test your shit.

yeah thats not my point. your dealer lying about your tab strength, as most dealers do. your case seems more extreme. then again you're just baiting arent you

I've been tripping for years, buddy. I know what I'm talking about. I think you just can't hold your acid.

I did mdma twice in a week once. the second time I hardly felt anything. I went home feeling dissapointed I couldnt get on the same wavelenght as tbe rest of the crowd.

You must be stupid. How does your test tell you the dose you're getting? How do you know each tab is the same assuming you could accurately test the strength of one.

Nope, you're a fucking dick.

agreed about what you said about weed.
Last summer, lets say out of 100 days, 80 days i smoked everyday. Then i realised that the only affect it has on me is that the next day i dont wanna do anything, i want to postpone everything, basically just do nothing.And if you smoke everyday you get into a do-nothing-waste-time-waste-life cycle
Thats a dangerous thing that weed does to you..

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I agree with everything you said with the caveat that it's not a party drug. If you take it expecting to have fun, you will not have a good time. If you keep taking expecting to have fun or reach nirvana, you will end up a potato. LSD is strong stuff, respect it.

>PS I have not done any drugs
Imagine my shock, after all the absolute normie trash you just spewed. How about you remain silent on topics you have no experience in ay bud?

No joke, but sometimes after a killer workout I enjoy some bumps of cocaine when I get home and get so fucking horny it basically scares my girlfriend.

>out of 100 days, 80 days i smoked everyday

The reason you're all DYEL is because you do drugs.
>Are these degenerate if taken in moderation?
Yes, even small amounts are degenerate

I do MDMA maybe twice or 3 times a year and that's for big events. Normally I have enough energy to last all night.

I do blow twice a year, typically on boys trips where we're just tryna get fked up

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>hold your acid
Shut up faggot

You're an idiot mate just accept you don't know your figures and shut up

What happens when the coke wears off and the fentanyl takes over and you fall out as you’re benching

I've done up to 800ug.
350ug is not a lot. I am still fairly coherent and in control. I can do most normal things.

I wouldn't recommend touching them. MDMA, Cocaine, Ketamine, whatever it is are used as a crutch by overly self-conscious individuals to "let loose" and often become a necessity for them to socialise. I nearly ruined my life taking hard drugs and left my brain stuck in a loop of depression and anxiety.
Anyone championing drugs in this thread is most likely 18 and dropped "molly" twice.

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cocaine, MDMA:
>hard drugs
alcohol:
>all good brah :D

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>retard thinks that lsd is just seeing funny things

>PS I have not done any drugs
Then shut the fuck up retard

>PS I have not done any drugs
Then why the fuck are you talking about them? Fuck off, square.

>PS I have not done any drugs
Stopped reading right there

I've taken that reported amount from multiple sources. Each time it was only a heavy medium trip. Why are you so butthurt about this?

t. lightweights

Based and red pilled

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It’s not about being butthurt, you fucking knuckle-dragger. It’s about spreading misinformation. In no world is 350ug a “medium heavy” trip. It’s nearly certain ego death, a traumatic experience for somebody who doesn’t know what they’re getting into. You’re probably going around telling noobs that 200ug is a good starting dose, because “hey I’ve done 800ug before! That’s what a REAL heavy dose looks like!”.

You’re the typical loud-mouth shit head who never knows what the fuck he’s talking about, yet has utter confidence in everything he says for no reason at all. If everybody was as stupid and arrogant as you, we’d still be swinging from trees.

Drugs are for losers

>you don’t go to other dimensions on LSD

Media portrayals have ruined your perspective

If your dealer is “lying” about your LSD, it’s not LSD. An actual LSD dealer will know exactly what you’re getting and will be happy to explain what happens

I would not recommend drugs at all for this sole reason: they are short-lasting. What comes up, must come down. Having the beauty of life forcefully stripped away from you is worse than never doing drugs in the first place.

It creates a temporary and unstable hedonistic mindset

I'm not him but I've taken up to 800ug in one go. In total over a span of several years I have consumed around 7,500ug of acid if they were truthfully dosed.

350ug is no "ego death" nor traumatic. 350ug is enough for me to be coherent enough to take my dog for a walk while peaking and fight off/protect my own dog from another person's stupid off leash dog - this has actually happened.

200ug is a decent starting dose for someone who qualifies. Having a good mindset overall, being in a good setting, being with someon calming an experienced, use of other psychs even just heavy doses of weed, etc. All factor in. I would suggest most anyone eat something like 50ug just to get the idea of how it feels personally, the first time, but if they are in a good situation and want to go for it I have in the past suggested they take the whole 200ug while I sit with them.

Even erowid refers to 200ug as a common/medium to high dose. Exactly as that poster described.

What I've learned through years of different phases is that the only people that use the word 'degenerate' is da juice did it poltard brainlets

>DMT
>foreign

Drugs are good and fun if you're not a pussy

>It’s nearly certain ego death, a traumatic experience for somebody who doesn’t know what they’re getting into
Again making me think that you're taking some cheap experimental chemical sold by some shady hoodrat. Test your shit, user.
200ug is indeed a very good starting point, as long as you have the proper mindset, are in a safe+controlled environment, and maybe have a trip sitter if you still feel antsy.
>You’re the typical loud-mouth shit head who never knows what the fuck he’s talking about, yet has utter confidence in everything he says for no reason at all
Jesus, the irony is palpable

At least someone here knows what he's talking about

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350 is a lot, stop acting like le drug master.
You probably got ripped off by someone

i don't smoke weed but this happened to me when i play world of warcraft. i just feel like escaping reality over and over when i have it available

not that guy but no, you guys have never had pure shit. I've had what you normally get on the deep web and with that I could easily take 500 and be in decent enough shape to talk to people. Then I met a guy that makes it and watch him make almost completely pure shit and let me tell you. 300ug of that make me into a potato, literally couldnt move for 4 hours, I was passed out flying through the universe. If you have actual good shit 100ug is good enough as a starting dose.