Is communism inevitable?

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It is, but as long as you keep the interests of the people in mind, and capitalism at a moderate level.

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Nope, but Nazis and communists fucking each other up is

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Yes!

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Well we could if we weren’t trying to put people against each other via “their ideology is bad, ours is good!” And instead work on the facts as best we can.
Full capitalism sucks, full communism sucks, full fascism sucks, full centrism doesn’t always work, so we need to find a solution

communism is can't be achieved because the workers cannot govern themselves without a state
also Trotsky did nothing wrong

>Full capitalism sucks
Yes.
>full communism sucks
No
>full fascism sucks
Yes
>full centrism doesn’t always work
Centrism is basically "uphold the status quo", and since the status quo is neoliberal capitalism, then it also sucks.

What we need is to revolutionary destroy the oppressive system, and then rebuild it with Democratic Socialism in mind. It's a branch of Marxism that appeals to all ideologies in the Leftists spectrum, all while keeping it from turning back into regressive capitalism.

Communism is achievable with a state. Anarcho-Communism is the one that can't work because they plan on doing nothing to the counter-revolutionaries who want to reinstall the capitalist government.

Do you communism, or socialism? Please define which VERY CLEARLY.
Because if I’m not incorrect, communism has always ended in totalitarian rule which is the opposite of its purpose as well as the interest of the people, we need a government that will listen, and a people that will listen

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i don't think communism by Karl Marx's definition of communism is achievable
but socialism is the closest thing can can be achieved.i consider the USSR to be a socialist sate and not a communist one. but then again i am not well versed in the subject of communism only the very early history of the USSR such as the October revolution

Communism has never even been achieved lol. It's a stateless, classless, currencyless society where everyone works for the benefit of the COMMUNity in an industrialized society.
Socialism is basically Cuba. The workers have the mean of production, but currency and the state still exist. The state is entirely composed of workers and representative of workers, and it still exists if there are hostile imperialist powers, or in Cuba's literal case, right next door.

>has always ended in totalitarian rule which is the opposite of its purpose
You're referring to revisionist-era Soviet Union and China after Stalin's and Mao's passings, right? There's a VERY good reason why Russians and Chinese fondly remember and miss these two, but not Kruschev and Deng.
They turned on the people by converting the socialized nations into state capitalist countries with social securities, and that's where most of the criticisms come from. They're the ones you're referring to about betraying the revolution, and indeed they have.

>we need a government that will listen
The Soviet Union was a democracy during Lenin's time, and yes, it was still democratic in Stalin's time. Lenin lost on things he voted for, and Stalin attempted to resign a handful of time, but people still voted him to stay.
I personally want an equal ground for Marxist-Leninists, Maoists, Luxemburgists, Anarchists, and other leftists to discuss on via party systems instead of just one party. That's achievable in Democratic Socialism, but no social democrats though.

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No need to be so grumpy, Cheeri.
It is possible. What do you need governments for if wars and capitalism no longer exist?

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>What do you need governments for if wars and capitalism no longer exist?
law and order and to make sure that people are being good communists, some people are just born being selfish and if there is no government to implement the laws and take care of the counter revolutions then the system could be exploited

I gotta be grumpy because I fucking hate these shit threads on Jow Forums. All I wanna do is do a boss raid but shitpost never makes a fucking thread and Im depressed.It's the only thread besides happy day where they like me because I put some fucking effort.

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>fatty caring about food
lol

>law and order
The people hold up the law and order. Anarchists also firmly believe in this.

>some people are just born being selfish
Greed isn't a hereditary gene, it's a psychological and spiritual sin. Capitalism makes people selfish because it's an ideology of greed, communism makes people altruistic because it's an ideology of generosity.

>take care of the counter revolutions then the system could be exploited
Which is why anarchism will never work. The Soviet Union worked because the Bolsheviks formed a government the moment the Tsar fell, and their government prevented the capitalists and monarchists from ever coming to power.
Cuba worked because Castro and Che, with the help of the Cuban workers and peasants, repelled any gusano counter-revolution.
Once all the imperialist powers are gone, once the workers have the means of production, and once all inequality has been quelled, the state no longer needs to exist.

>The people hold up the law and order
how can you trust the people to do this though? apparently in the USSR the amazing workers were given so much praise and extra food that is made other workers jealous and some even say they killed the talented workers.
>Greed isn't a hereditary gene, it's a psychological and spiritual sin. Capitalism makes people selfish because it's an ideology of greed, communism makes people altruistic because it's an ideology of generosity.
yea fair enough i can see how capitalism makes people greedy
>The Soviet Union worked because the Bolsheviks formed a government the moment the Tsar fell
no they didn't they overthrew the provisional government, unless you are referring too the soviet councils.
> the state no longer needs to exist.
ehh it's an interesting theroy but i don't know if that will ever pass.
Also what do you think of the NEP? very capitalist no?

No

>apparently in the USSR the amazing workers were given so much praise and extra food that is made other workers jealous and some even say they killed the talented workers
If that did happen, then that means the workers who got more were more productive than others, and that should inspire others to work harder.
It is what Marx said: “to each according to their ability, to each according to their need”. Those who pull the most weight deserve the biggest slice of the pie, but that doesn’t mean those unable to work shouldn’t get fed and cared for, mind you.

>unless you are referring too the soviet councils
Yes, that.

>Also what do you think of the NEP? very capitalist no?
Tsarist Russia was still under feudalism, and if you’re still under feudalism, you’re not industrialized. If you’re not industrialized, there are no means of production, which means socialism can’t happen.

Lenin himself said the NEP was temporary state capitalism, a brief period to get the country built up before applying Marx’s theories and creating a socialist society. It achieved its purpose and Stalin abolished it in 1928, as Lenin has intended. Sadly, the revisiont era that came with Kruschev regressed the socialist period back to state capitalism.

I can’t respond to any more posts since I got some work to do, so I bid you farewell.

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