Why aren't guys ok with platonic relationships with females? Hugs, hand holding, and cuddling...

It's disrespectful. You're basically saying he's not good enough for you because you won't fuck him.

>Why aren't guys okay with being a sexless ATM, rent-free condo and on-call 24/7 therapist while I get dicked down by Chad and Tyrone on the side? Like ugh is all men think about sex

I don't know Roastie OP (Roast-P). I just don't know.

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>I'd rather hang out with fat fuck friend.jpg

I'd be fine with this desu
as long as she wasn't fucking someone behind my back
because whats the point

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I would genuinely prefer that to a romantic type one. I do not hate anyone or wish any harm on them but I would not be comfortable with anything serious like that.

hand holding and cuddling isn't platonic, at least not for men and a good portion of women.

Because girls don't like the same things I like and they'll judge you and be mean to you in ways guy friends would never do. Plus, women love shit talking and crying about their problems while men just want to have fun and take it easy. And most likely, there will be sexual tension on someone's part as either the man or woman will catch feelings.

Also most people are greedy. A romantic relationship is better than a platonic one, and having a platonic one when you liked the girl hurts a lot. makes you self doubt, wonder why you're not good enough, etc.

>hand holding
>cuddling
>hugging

mhhh k.

Can we do it once? I'd be your friend forever after.

>Hugs, hand holding, and cuddling

I'll want to fuck if I do that

I always fall in love with girls when I try to just be freinds with them. I don't even want to most of the time, I just find myself laying in bed one day thinking how nice it would be to embrace and kiss her. Too bad no girls find me attractive, so I'm kept strictly in the friend or bro-zone.

Can you imagine how your live would be if you didn't had the self control of a horny indian?

Maybe you just have a shity fucking personality that no guy wants to be around.

What makes you so fucking interesting you boring ass wasteful bitch. most men just stick around cuz they're looking for pussy that's it otherwise you got the personality of a burnt toast

>owo I'm so shy I watch the office haha

Not a fucking personality you lifeless husk

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Why no kissing though?
I'd be willing to try it if kissing was included.

Most women are boring. Guys only put up with girls for sex or female validation.

>hand holding, and cuddling

I think these are too intimate for a platonic friendship, I'd only want to do them with somebody I was in a romantic relationship with.

I want to bang literally every single woman I am friends with, including the ones I didn't find attractive. being emotionally close to them made them attractive.

what you are asking for is literally a relationship, but without the sex.

I have self control. I'm just not dumb enough to make friends with someone I'll feel emotionally close to knowing I'll develop feelings only to sit around hearing her talk about the guys she's fucking.

If you want to discuss something like that, you should speak in person.

why would you want to cuddle with a friend? that's too intimate.

women don't have much to offer outside of romantic/sexual activities. They are childish and dumb, and we love them for that, but any platonic relationship with a women is more akin to a babysitting job than a friendship

I'm a guy and I would love to be a girls platonic friend that way, no sex or lewd stuff. I get what you mean though most guys would not like that though and get jealous or needy.

never have a female friend before?

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because eventually we will probably want to fuck the girl. it just happens.

Yeah the whole contact thing is bullshit. I've had more female freinds than male at this point, and I have gotten two hugs total. Nothing else.

its always girls that want guy friends that say shit like this. guys dont really care too much about having girl friends. really tells you something.

all my friend grils dissapear after 3 year of hs,because they listened to horrible music and could not have an mentally challenging convo. for more than 2 min.

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platonic relationships sound so much more comfy than pornstar relationships people fantasize over.
as long as she isnt cheating I would love to just hold hands and cuddle

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>Why aren't guys ok with platonic relationships with females?
Because usually one or the other actually wants to get it on and it sucks to put up with less than what you really desire, especially if someone else has it and it keeps being rubbed in your face. Even that aside, women are given to viewing their male "friends" as mere conveniences, not all are happy with that.

Male-female friendship probably works out best when they both already someone in their lives and/or are friends by proxy.

If she's clamoring about wanting guy friends, she's either wants an orbiter or another option.

well yeah guys just think about sex and never have consideration for anything else

more like we would rather just hang out with guys so we dont have to walk on egg shells if we dare say something offensive.

More honest than using a guy as your emotional tampon or back-up plan.

What's so wrong with that? It's just males being males. Not my fault women are obsessed with whatever bullshit expectations they have, men and women normally interact to reproduce, why would a guy waste his time hearing about makeup and fucking this or that Chad when he could be doing literally anything else with guy friends with the same interests that are 100x more enjoyable to be around? Your role is to confort him, by having nice warm meals ready or giving him good orgasms. What? did you think you matter as a person?

Hmm lots of incels around today

Well-adjusted men are fine with female friendships (note that this does not include the "thirsty beta cuck" dynamic). A lot of the time you only see this after men are committed and settled down. Even then, many men simply relate much more to guys, and there's nothing wrong with that. Source: me

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Platonic relationships are great, especially if they come with the benefits started. Lots of guys likely see it as fruitless, which makes sense as you'll never get all the benefits of a full relationships, but that's the point. You also never get the negatives, but you're labeled as an orbiter. That kind of dampens chances of getting with their friends though.

I have had pretty good friendships with girls before, the only real big difference is if you dont want to hang out with them you have to rationalize it, or else they feel like you're avoiding or are upset. With your guy friends it can be as simple as "I don't feel like hanging out today" "okay"

I have a couple of female friends like this minus the cuddling. It's nice especially when I haven't seen them in a while.

We're all in committed relationships though.

most of the time it's the guy who's still convinced he can fuck her eventually while she got 10 other guys on the plate and he's moving furniture for her.
>cuddling no sex
why.

Women are shit to have as friends

this
fuck off roast post
i enjoy cuddling significantly more than i enjoy sex but the male brain and body are built to want to fuck any half-decent nearby female that isnt family and sometimes it gets bad enough to even make you horny around ugly women and family members
the longer you are around an unrelated female the more a guys brain and body yell at him to fuck her
thats why if men and women are going to be friends they have to have benefits or it just wont work out

only the most pathetic males would just hang around a female with that itch constantly building up knowing that they will never have it relieved

I love platonic relationships. It feels more geniune and fulfilling than conventional relationships too

>Why aren't guys ok with platonic relationships with females?
Prior experience.
Women usually just aren't very good friends.

If I want friendship from an inferior being I have my pet which is a lot more loyal than any female "friend" would ever be

>Go back lurk your gay/trap threads
Stupid retard and you cant understand the point he made.

Women have nothing to offer in a friendship (or relationship of any kind) besides sex. Women can't even be friends with other women.
Women are completely useless, worthless, soulless parasitical beings.

It's either all okay or none of it's okay.
Anything in between is emotional support and just a tease.

I wouldn't mind a friend if they helped me with money or to find something with a decent wage.

the woman won't be friends with the guy when he gets a gf because his new gf will get jealous and tell him to stop hanging out with her.

if the man is a non-chad, chances are the female friend is just pretending to be friends and is secretly repulsed by him. I've never seen a non-chad guy with female friends.

Because yo have tits and a vagina.

Because your peepee gets hard too easy and you are inclined to hump. I stopped with hugs when my brother would hug me and rub himself on me. Men make me sick.

And you can offer what? Hate, anger, rage, no thanks.

>Hugs, hand holding, and cuddling , in addition to all the normal friend stuff guys do.
If I did this I would get aroused doing it. that much is unchangeable. It would ultimately be an unpleasant experience because of that.

i was in that shit to long op. You eventually want more but the other doesnt so it eats you up inside. After moving to study i cut all ties because i couldnt deal with it anymore after 3 years

>cuddling
yeah I'm just going to "platonically" grind my boner into your ass all night
GTFO

I can't hug my female friends too long because I'll get boners. Sometimes just being too close makes that happen. I don't want to, but IT'S FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE not to.

because those are pairbonding activivities you would engage in with a partner you were potentially going to have children with, not just things you would do with just anyone.

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its good but all the good gets reversed when she dates another guy. then it hurts.

gotta be a little cuck to be friends and be happy for her dating a better man.

like all those things are good. but come friday night and shes out on a date my stomach flips upside down and i get spikes of cortisol (stress).

the downside is enough to scare off most guys, UNLESS they have a cuck fetish.

because women make awful platonic friends.

I wish I could find a girl like Origami.

the girl wont feel this. she has her male friend for emotional connections and chad for wild, happy fun.

idk. this borders on being poly.

>hugs hand holding cuddling
This is my relationship.
It is cozy

I'm a weeb. I can cuddle and hug most of my femoid friends in the anime circle. They're all low tier, so I don't have any interest in them. Still it feels nice to hug someone.

I have quite a few female friends. A lot of them I slept with, to be fair, but it was never about that and still isn't. Not sure if you're a femanon or just LARPing as one, but Jow Forums is one of the few places where misogynists actually act like misogynists. You'll have better luck as you get older and the guys around you aren't young anymore

they were all one-sided friendships.
eventually i would crave physical affection, like most living things do, but i would never be able to get it.

then my female friend would turn around and get affection whenever she wanted it and could get sex whenever.
it would just suck my spirit and i stopped having female friends.

imagine your friend keeps winning the lottery and they don't share a single dime with you and they still expect title of best friend and for you to not question anything.
why would anyone be friends with a selfish person?

look, i think thats straight up impossible. Some fags on here might tell you otherwise but they are lying.
Our hormones force us to want pussy. Sure a dude can hang out with a female friend with out fucking her, but trust me when i say the he will get the urge to fuck her at some point.

For that matter, being in a platonic relationship equals pure hell for any straight dude

well no, theyre nice. but yeah eventually the guy will want some. is it cheating if the guy goes to see an escort or gets tugged off at the rub shack?

doing these activities will reduce the platonicity of the orbiting friendship (lose the energy).

What kind of animal can't control their own hormones?

hes speaking from a monogamous pov. to most guys the female friend you orbit is the woman we want to gf.

I'd actually love that. I'm almost certainly asexual, though.

no man is asexual, another meme.

Im not saying that I cant control my sexual urges, but imo its awkward to hang out with some on that you constantly want to bone and have to suppress that urge.
Idk, this dosent seem good/healthy to me

That could be an option, but thats a high price to pay for a relationship. Dont you think?

you can do better. and it can be fun. you havent taken the escort pill so you dont realize you can just go see one for that, but to me its wrong because the woman i want is my friend.

not at all. if it were a relationship i wouldnt have see escorts.

Jesus Christ,
>orbit
It is called being friends

I had this in middle school with two girls, this blonde girl and I sat next to each other and we usually held hands during class, touched each other etc, looking back at it, it's pretty weird, but back then it was good to touch girls legs and have my hand stroked during class, she was quite qt, the other girl was my "best friend" and we did pretty much the same shit, but during our free time since we didn't have class together, looking back at it I only enjoyed that one because it made my first girlfriend (by then ex) jealous.

I've had zero and I literally mean zero female friends much less that kind of intimacy with a girl who wasn't my girlfriend since I joined highschool. Truth is that girls are boring and have bland personalities, they're solipsistic in nature, and unnable of unconditional love and affection, If I wasn't blessed by genes you can bet your ass I wouldn't have had that kind of relationship with those girls. I also can say that girls who want orbiters will do those things you described in very subtle ways with little frequency to keep their orbiters.

I also will never ever take a girlfriend who interacts like that with her male friends, that's an indication of being either a slut, attention seeker, or manipulative women.

Don't be like I was, and if you actually do find a human female that has an interesting personality and hobbies, treat her like you'd treat a good male friend, you wouldn't cuddle or handhold with your male friend, so why the fuck would you do that with a female friend?

This thread is just incel fantasy

In a platonic relationship? gr8 b8 m8
In a normal relationship. Sure, because you get head.

Way to expensive for some bitch that doesnt want to fuck

orbit is a dirty word. ya we are friends, but the motivator for the friendship is love. platonic love between men and women is a thin line between romantic love, only held back by her choice.

so i ask you, is it cheating to see an escort while being in a platonic friendship?

Sounds like you're a starved, depraved animal. You're the only one making that situation awkward

i dont think you understood my post.

here

woops. see

because girls only value to men is their bagina

so you want men to remain sexless, but give it our all in a platonic relationship. and if she chooses to date other guys, we are the shallow ones for tarnishing the friendship.

lets say we dont get upset with her for dating out, is it cheating for men to see escort while in a platonic relationship?

Yes you will be, if you have to hang out with the girl you love and your not getting you knob gobbled.
If this keeps going on for long you will get regress to the state of a depraved animal

Why do females hate sex so much?

was about to question your logic. lol
because they are both my posts

nope. he can simply see an escort before it gets that terrible.