Ugliness

I mean, really, what is the point of living if you're ugly?

I'm a 27 year old almost virgin (fucked a prostitute once, it sucked) and I don't really see why I should keep living. I guess I had hopes once, but I can't keep pretending it's going to be fine. I just wanted to be desire and loved, but no one enjoys the company of an ugly person. Now what? For ugly people that might read this: what's the point on keep living?

>it's not about your ugliness, you're probably fat, poor and uninteresting

If only... I'm actually very thin, already own my own apartment and can keep a conversation about a wide variety of subjects (probably as a C O P E as I was trying to compensate my ugliness, as if it could work)

So, why should I keep living? why do you keep living?

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It gets better. Really proud of you for owning your own place and keeping conversations going. Much better than me.

How will it "get better"? I will always be ugly.

I'm 23 op and ugly as well. I don't believe anything gets better. I don't even want to work a job because what the fuck is the point if I'm ugly and my life is devoid of any satisfaction or happyness what so ever? I already hate people so now why should I want to contribute to a society that hates me based on something I can't even change? I would kill myself if it wasn't such a difficult task to accomplish; fighting against every hard wired instinct that compels me to live. I'm alone no family no friends and no hope for a better future. Your question can't be answered because there is no answer for it

Your situation seems to be worse than mine. A lot worse, actually. At least I have a family and a good future, but my looks make me wanna die. I started to work really young, so I never really stopped to think about it. It's nice to have money, but without good looks it's almost worthless. If I got back to my parents' house nothing would change, as I never brought a woman to my own house. I'm almost 30 and still look like a kid, I was hoping one day I would get a beard to hide my ugly face, but it just won't happen. Have you ever fucked a whore?

Last year was tough, tougher than most. With incel hate getting really popular, it was really difficult to go outside. You'd just hear it, you'd see it online, people hating you. But you didn't do anything wrong. You actually never did anything. You hid away because of all the hatred and teasing that came when you didn't hide back in primary and high school. Because the only thing that didn't result in you feeling miserable was staying out of sight. But even this, eventually led to you feeling miserable. Now I'm here. I try interacting, I have no experience with people. They all think you're weird and just go away, find someone else.

Femcels will say that "incels focus on their own looks so much because they're projecting their own superficial desires onto us". This is bullshit, I focus on my looks because it was the only thing different between me and my peers in primary school, I was the smart and funny, but other people always got recognition for my ideas and my jokes that they blatantly stole, word for word. Other people got the laughs, other people got the "wow he's smart", not me, and the reason why is because I was ugly, no one respected me for that reason. Of course I grew bitter because of this, I stopped speaking out because I either got ridiculed or my ideas stolen, and I don't know which is worse. I burrowed away and I look back on my lonely pathetic life and wish it never happened. I wish none of our lives ever happened and at least we can cry for each other because I know no one else will.

>But you didn't do anything wrong. You actually never did anything. You hid away because of all the hatred and teasing that came when you didn't hide back in primary and high school. Because the only thing that didn't result in you feeling miserable was staying out of sight. But even this, eventually led to you feeling miserable.

amazing. you summed up 20 years of my life in just a few words. I never really thought about it this way, I've been hiding all this time.

>why do you keep living?
to become the weeb master

Volunteer at a place that works with the blind and get a blind girlfriend? Seriously. Didn't that work for Frankenstein's monster or something?

My mom literally asked me if I was an incel. Are you a virgin?

>Femcels will say that "incels focus on their own looks so much because they're projecting their own superficial desires onto us"

Do they really say that? The reality is that beauty is the only thing that matters. I wouldn't want to date or be around ugly people too. Most people act this way but they will never admit it, they don't want to be considered shallow. Beauty is definitely not shallow.

I look young also but my problem is permanent scars from severe ance, I even have lumps on my nose. I have brown skin as well so people make a connection and think I look like actual shit. Just yesterday my roommate gave me money to buy bread and while in the store two guys were talking about how ugly I am. People comment on how ugly I am almost every fucking time I leave the house. I self medicate with any drugs I can get ahold of which is mainly dxm. I fucked an escort well sorta it wasn't that great and I didn't even orgasm. I feel like my social skills and personality have been greatly effected in the negative sense, there is no way out except death and right now I'm too afraid to kill myself.

>Didn't that work for Frankenstein's monster or something?
He made friends with an old blind man, and fell in love with his daughter from afar. When he finally revealed himself she was fucking horrified. So no, it didn't work for Frankenstein's monster. Frankenstein is the ultimate robot novel, more anons should read it.

I'm also afraid to kill myself, I'm too much of a coward. I want to go as far as possible to save some money for my family. I never had acne, but I do have severe psoriasis, even in my dick. But I'm going to be honest: psoriasis is just an "extra" I'm ugly without it too.

I'm think about going to an escort again, but all the things I want to do would be better with a girlfriend. I want to kiss her, hug, suck her nipples. I can't do this kind of thing with a whore. I never used any drugs, where should I start?

Yeah, I came to that realisation earlier this year and I've been doing my best to break old cycles. I don't come on here much anymore. It's depressing because I realise so many people are doing this so much younger than me and I feel like such a boomer going outside, everyone my age is meant to be bound to a job or something. It's what it is I guess.

Yeah, they do. Being attractive doesn't matter to women as much as being successful, funny and smart does. You have to believe me on this. Read more, gain culture that your, bride to be can latch onto and make her own because, like most humans, she has none. I'm currently doing this. Delving more into my interests, which I guess I did before, but it's always good to expand your knowledge, gives you more things to ramble about.

There's a good book about ugliness called Whatever. Houellebecq is the writer. I think it is the best robot novel ever made. Way better than anything else he wrote.

?It's a fact...that in societies like ours sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money; and as a system of differentiation it functions just as mercilessly. The effects of these two systems are, furthermore, strictly equivalent. Just like unrestrained economic liberalism, and for similar reasons, sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperization . Some men make love every day, others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women, others with none. It's what's known as 'the law of the market'...Economic liberalism is an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society. Sexual liberalism is likewise an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society.

got a night job where i'm completely alone, sunk into hedonism and isolation, waitig for good vr and sexbots

i just want to be alone 24/7

I don't read books written by women

>Being attractive doesn't matter to women as much as being successful, funny and smart does.

Have you ever had sex? Why would an attractive girl have sex with an ugly guy? Reading isn't sexy.

>Whatever. Houellebecq
Thanks user, I'll make that my next book. I'm sure I've seen that quote floating around Jow Forums.

No sex? Not even with escorts?

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Yeah despite my shitty acne riddled skin I think an ugly without it also. I have a mustache that grew early when I was like 11 years old and my bone structure (forehead) is also a factor contributing to my ugliness. Without the acne I would be AS ugly but I'd still be ugly. I also want intimacy and romance or whatever the fuck but when I actually think about it I can't realistically see my ugly ass in any sort of relationship. Yuck. I don't know man, dextromethorphan is everywhere and it's legal but most people tend to dislike it. I don't like weed because it gives me paranoia. Alcohol is gross. Not having social connections due to being ugly makes obtaining better drugs pretty much impossible. I don't know what else to do

What's the point?
Even ugly people can get laid. Learn to be fun to be around. Plenty of ugly people are funny as fuck. Louis CK got hit with the metoo movement as a fat, bald ginger and dude still draws crowds and gets pussy. You will probably never fuck the type of women celebrities fuck, but you'll be able to find a sweetheart in the 4-7 range

I just want to be loved and desired for who I am. I don't want to become somebody else just to have sex. I need love. I used to be the funny guy in high school, never got me anywhere, and everything today is Tinder. Girls won't even look at you if you aren't a 8/10 at least. It would be a different game if I worked with people my age or studied/had a group of friends. But I only work with old people.

>I also want intimacy and romance or whatever the fuck but when I actually think about it I can't realistically see my ugly ass in any sort of relationship.

This is it. I can't picture a girl inside my house, giving me a blowjob, letting me suck her breasts. I'm so far removed from this world.

>Not having social connections due to being ugly makes obtaining better drugs pretty much impossible. I don't know what else to do

Yeah, I never tried any drugs because I don't have friends. It's a vicious circle.

lift

oreganoliosis of the spleen

Worthless if you're ugly.

>I just want to be loved and desired for who I am. I don't want to become somebody else just to have sex.
You become someone else simply by aging and having new experiences. The only way you fail to become someone else is by continuously performing the same activities. You are in a rut, and unless you break out of the rut, you will remain there. It has absolutely nothing to do with sex.
>I need love. I used to be the funny guy in high school, never got me anywhere, and everything today is Tinder.
Being funny is literally a way to open up dialogue, it doesn't "get you" anything. It allows people to feel comfortable in your presence. It is still entirely up to you to perform a show of confidence and communication to form a serious connection. Tinder is about having sex, nobody goes there for "love" unless they're beyond desperate
>Girls won't even look at you if you aren't a 8/10 at least.
This is a lie and makes me think that you've never even had a platonic conversation with a girl about what she likes.
>would be a different game if I worked with people my age or studied/had a group of friends. But I only work with old people.
It wouldn't be a different game, apparently. You allege that in high school you were surrounded by peers and all you did was be funny and expect that to make things fall in your lap.

You want love? It's not just gonna fall into your lap because you want it. Love is a continuous effort, before and during the relationship.

>Tinder is about having sex, nobody goes there for "love" unless they're beyond desperate

So where should I go?

>surrounded by peers and all you did was be funny and expect that to make things fall in your lap.

I even asked a girl out, just kissed her sometimes but didn't even had sex. I'm too shy and afraid of rejection. I have next to zero contact with people my age nowadays, I wouldn't even know where to start. And, anyway, why would a girl settle for an ugly guy? She can literally have sex with any attractive male anytime she wants.

>So where should I go?
Depends on your interests. You want a genuine connection with someone, you should probably meet them doing something you like doing. I.e. girls who go to bars like to drink, they're not there to be picked up by a straight edge dude that wants alcohol to be illegal. I'm into music and other arts, I go to museums and concerts. I also go to metroparks because I like nature. I also go to bars because I like drinking, and there's board game bars where you can just shoot the shit with someone and join a game.
>I even asked a girl out, just kissed her sometimes but didn't even had sex.
You said this is about love, not sex. Make your decision on what you want.
>I'm too shy and afraid of rejection. I have next to zero contact with people my age nowadays, I wouldn't even know where to start.
Assuming OP, you're 27. Your age group is anyone at or above drinking age. Find a hobby, find a place where that hobby is engaged in by others, make friends, talk to girls without trying to pick them up. Women don't like going home with a guy on the first date unless, again, all you want is sex.
>And, anyway, why would a girl settle for an ugly guy? She can literally have sex with any attractive male anytime she wants.
This is objectively untrue you fucking idiot. I could rattle off situation after situation with women I've fucked or dated, and all you'd do is insist it's pointless because of your looks. Hurr durr, you're ugly, get the fuck over it. You think your insecurity isn't out in the open for everyone to see when you act like this? You think women go into the bathroom and say, "God, user was sweating BULLETS just saying hi to us, I'm so fucking wet right now"?

>"God, user was sweating BULLETS just saying hi to us, I'm so fucking wet right now"?

That's the other problem, I sweat a lot. And it has nothing to with being nervous. Just bad genes.

My "hobby" is reading, watching movies, listening to music. But girls that are interested in the same things as me are looking for some other kind of guy, not me. I don't really should like the things I like, it doesn't suit my appearance. I like art a lot, I travel abroad only to visit museums. But girls that are interested in art obviously prefer handsome men even more, so I obviously won't bother with them.

I'm just like this guy. Do I have any chance? youtube.com/watch?v=fCbwQ7GDfjQ&t=9m24s

>I look like an average guy
Fucking shocker, you look absolutely average and think you're a 0/10. Quit using appearance as a goddamn crutch you pathetic child. Paul's Ego on YouTube is a successful fat, neckbearded youtuber who was fucking married before being successful. He has a podcast with other equally obese youtubers. He has less "sexual market value" than you.
Quit watching cringe ass videos like whatever that video is. Sweating bullets is a metaphor, and wasn't referring to actual sweat.

Jesus Christ. I'm not going to keep replying to this thread. you know what you can do. You can go out and make friends and meet a qt, or you can stay on Jow Forums watching videos about whatever the fuck that video is.

>be, 27 year old khv never been on a date in my life
>have been mocked for my looks at pretty much all periods in life
>have posted photo online multiple times on Jow Forums and even plebbit a few times and got called ugly and sympathy for my ugliness, even by the foreveralone crowd on plebbit
>met a girl online who became practically in love with me and even she said '"it would take a unique girl like me to find you attractive"
>even something as simple as asking about advice for a haircut for my jewfro created a completely mixed response, with every person saying either "keep growing it out" or "buzzcut it" to hide my deformed head features

its really quite something

That's not average at all. He's way bellow average. See pic related.

>Sweating bullets is a metaphor, and wasn't referring to actual sweat.

I am, unfortunately.

I think you are delusional, honestly.

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Why keep trying?

keep trying what? i dont try anything

Fuck it, I'll get a ban showing you how stupid you are. This photo is (not) me

This guy has fucked 16 women. 14 of them were after high school, and the 2 fucked/dated in high school were land whales. This picture look like an 8/10 to you? This look like a fucking Chad? No? Thats what I fuckin thought you little dick energy faggot

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Ugly is a surprisingly effective trait and coping with no gf really isn't all that much harder than coping with the fact that someday everything that makes you you be so long gone it may as well have never existed, even with a gf.

Hes purposely making an ugly face

He is a 3/10, I am a 1/10. And he is white, tattooed, seems like a nice guy.

Jim Carrey based a whole multi-million dollar career off purposely ugly faces.
I thought women only want 8/10s?

>why do you keep living?

I don't want to upset and burden my parents with my death.

>thought women only want 8/10s?

And above.

Well, I hate to break it to you but this
Isn't an 8/10.

I know, he's a 3/10.

>be yourself

So he's 3/10, he's getting laid, that means women want him, is the logic hard to follow or what?

He's the exception. I used Tinder Gold for a month and not even one girl swiped right. It's hell.

lol a relationship is not what it is made out to be just build your enviroment means gym, finances profession ect and dont worry about woman and they will come t you.

>used Tinder Gold
Tinder literally tries to weed out people who swipe too much. Women see profiles which swipe a ton less frequently. Plus Tinder is more about your picture/description. I'm the one who posted the photo, and I'm not good at Tinder. Like most young men, I don't take photos of myself when I go do something, and I'm not going to have my friends take photos of me at an event for a dating profile. Thus, my profile is full of basically mirror shots which makes me look like an incel. Also, I don't use Tinder often, so my profile description is obtuse and drives more people away than brings in.

I didn't swipe. With Tinder Gold you can see people who liked you. Not even one liked me.

Read about how Tinder works and how to improve your probability.

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Guys sleep with ugly girls because they are lonely, are horny but can't get anything better at the moment or for practice purposes.

Girls sleep with ugly men because they are horny and there is no better choice around, because the guy is popular and/ or well off, or because she'll be able to manipulate him for personal gain.

Pretty fair, if you ask me.

It doesn't get better.

You either become prettier in some way or you find people who genuinely don't care about your looks but that's so rare that it's out of the question.

There are some people who don't need human interaction but that's probably not you.

Become an entertainer, stream videogames and stuff like that. If you have a good personality your looks will genuinely not matter at all and you'll have a purpose.

(Not) you still has a hairline faggot. Imagine going bald ontop of everything else. Just live your life and be grateful for what you have. It only gets worse

Plastic surgery needs to be government subsidized. Ugliness is a debilitating genetic disorder, and treatment should be considered a human right.

Accordering to soc I'm average.

However I'm losing my hair and I'm only 22 (am on medication though). But soon I'll join the uggo squad with you OP.

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>Girls sleep with ugly men
no, they factually don't. every example you try to post will either not even be ugly and show how little you understand about what you're saying or will be an absolute cream of the crop exception.

You're gonna die anyway. Might as well enjoy the ride while it's rolling. Just on your own.
People will never feel sympathy for me, people will never like me, I will never succeed, I will never experience true love. At least it teached me something. People are animals. They do not care who you are, they just care about your superficial quirks. Superficial charisma, loudness and an attractive face are the pillars for being appreciated, not your soul, your core, your intelligence. Nothing of that sort. It's sad really, but at least I got to understand it after I downgraded from 7/10 to 4-3/10 thanks to acne and shitty hormones.

I stole a Hershey's bar, some lemon head candy, and a bottle of Robitussin

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It's nice to finally know what your crime was. Man, that's fucking sad.

>Sad

Explain how