Who here got a shitty /meme-degree/ also?

No, you literally don't.
In fact, it's better if you don't know Chinese, it will force the kids to learn English better.

>web development

If you can't get a job with 5 years of experience as a web developer your are either straight-up retarded or you live in a third-world country.

all this fucking bullshit about "YOU CAN JUST GET A JOB IN ANOTHER COUNTRY LOL"

I don't believe it. post actual, verifiable proof that an american can just get another job in some country and get paid extraordinarily well

average income in china: 3,222.70 United States Dollar per year

i live in florida.

even if i was retarded, how would they know? they don't

tell me exactly what i'm supposed to be doing differently. be specific

it's a totally oversaturated market. everyone else, just like me, taught themselves how to make websites (all the info is free online) so it's not a very "rare" skill at all

i've applied to close to 1,000 web dev jobs. haven't gotten SHIT

Do you have a master's or just a four year degree? If you went for econ and didn't get a masters have fun being unemployed you dumb fuck.

>not choosing based med field, which has job openings everywhere
what a shame, but anyways you can do a short semester long CMA/CNA program at a community college and start working for around $12-15/hr afterwards. then work your way up to a higher paying subfield

just a 4 year

>have fun being unemployed
i am, actually

>you dumb fuck
wtf was i supposed to do?

>med field
yeah, fuck that. sounds terrible desu senpai

what do you have to do, wipe fat people's butts? ha... no

its not bad actually. CMA/CNA's scope of practice isnt very wide. all you really have to do is take vital signs+chart every couple of hours and do small errands. ez pz. and you only have to work 3 days a week too

My situation is pretty similar but I got a poli sci degree

mechanical engineering here.

is it just a bachelor's? why did you think that'd work? usually people who study arts/sciences (not including computer science) need a graduate degree at least

>is it just a bachelor's?
yes

>why did you think that'd work?
because people insisted that it would. also i had no fucking idea what job i wanted to do, and i was told it was very general

>usually people who study arts/sciences (not including computer science) need a graduate degree at least
no way i'm going to get one of those

it's kind of pointless to whine about what i COULD HAVE theoretically done differently, since i can't go back in time

i was lied to by people, and gullible to believe it (because i had never worked a day in my life). such is life

Hey man Im in the same boat as you except I didnt have good grades. I have a job because I looked everything on indeed and eventually got a job as an analyst. take a bootcamp or go on udemy and learn sql/python/tableau and you can get an analyst job too.

i already put SQL on my resume, even though I only ever used MySQL (I could easily learn it quick, programming stuff is super easy to me). I have introduced myself to all sorts of shit, it just seems like every fucking job wants something different. It's incredibly annoying.

Regardless, I know PHP very well, and can not get a job even doing that, despite having actual years of experience.

fuck wageslaving, it's torture

I got a degree in something I could have used, but I actively despise journalism now and would never want to work in the field.
English was the only thing I was ever good at at all in school, and I staunchly wanted to avoid becoming a teacher since I always hated school so I went into journalism. I was just pretty much fucked when it came down to shit that I was good at.

I dropped out of college when I realised my life wasnt going anywhere if I kept going for the economics degree. Now I'm 26 and my life definitely isnt going anywhere

>Im getting my degree in environmental science just because ill kms if i have to work 12 hours a day inside or staring at a computer and want to be in the field actually outside doing shit.
Then you chose the wrong field. I did a 6 month stint in my university's research lab. 8+ hours were spent inside staring at a computer or cleaning stuff. Once per month MAYBE we'd go out into the field for a few hours for samples. Twice per year we'd go for a multi-day trip in another state we had to drive to.

You have to be able to get autistic about numbers on a screen for your results.

why didn't you just finish and get the degree? degree is better than no degree, even if it's a shit degree

Got a degree in business admin. Couldn't find a job anywhere. Loans payments were coming in fast. Got a job at a bar. Made like $3.50 per hour, but made anywhere from $300-400 in tips per night. The job was shit because it was in a rich area so all the asshole rich fucks would come in and act like rich cunts. My coworkers were all Stacys and retired Stacy.

Worked there for 3 years and finally got tired of it. Got out and worked a bunch of shit jobs after that. I've been working at this tech company as a receptionist for a few months and its alright. The pay is shit, but at least I don't have to deal with rich assholes and Stacy.

About to hop on the learn2code meme train. Hopefully I can get a better job after I learn a little bit of coding. The coders here are kind, so MAYBE they might help me move up the company.
Hope everything works out for you guys.

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I got a degree in Biological Anthropology with the professorship hoping I'd get into academia. The problem is though that the only way to enter academia in anthropology is to go to field school which costs multiple thousands of dollars out of pocket up front. No serious school will take me in without it and the one time I had a chance to go I couldn't afford it because my family is working class and the scholarships are tabulated AFTER field school when you're already on the hook for 5K+.

It's part of why anthropology is failing as a field. It's not a meritocracy but is based entirely off who has the richest parents that can buy their way into a decent graduate school. Said rich kids legit believe they're able to do this purely off of their own skill and have a serious elitism issue which is why they all invariably become socialists so they can feel less bad about being elitist cunts.

I'm going back for an ISM degree this fall so that should work out well

I have biology and psychology degree both suck ass. Would have been better if I had just gone into work force. Shit ton of debt with low paying fed job.

got a meme math degree. didn't cost much thankfully so no debt at all just wasting time. I would rather be a farmer desu

This is why it's fucking stupid of people to just blindly major in shit. Your only avenue now is to go into finance; have fun. If you genuinely did not expect to work in economics after graduating with an economics degree you have no hope.

>This is why it's fucking stupid of people to just blindly major in shit.

What was I supposed to major in? I had no idea what kind of job I wanted, I had never had one before.

"So, user, What kind of career do you want?
>"I don't know"
"Well you should just pick something general then!"

>Your only avenue now is to go into finance; have fun.
What job can I get in this field without relevant work experience?

>If you genuinely did not expect to work in economics after graduating with an economics degree you have no hope.
What is "work[ing] in economics" even? What kind of job can I get with this shit degree?

I got a psych degree, so since there are no English, Women Studies, or Philosophy degrees here, this makes me the current biggest loser. I tried wrangling high intensity disability cases for 13/hr and washed out unbelievably fast. After that the jobs were so non-existent I had to wagecuck at fucking retail (like I did during school) to make a few dollars. Shit was humiliating. Now I am at least a para-pro (teaching aide) at a school so that's nice.

I'm starting my MSW to become a counselor though, so I'll have that going for me.

How far along in the application process for companies have you gotten? I'm kind of in the same boat of looking for a tech job, (not web dev but software dev)

>How far along in the application process for companies have you gotten?
i've had like 20 phone interviews, and 3 in-person interviews.

one was for a meme company, pyramid scheme, had nothing to do with web dev, a total scam

for webdev do they ask typical leetcode questions? if they do maybe you just need to like sit down and do some of that
it is super gay, but i did that and it really helped me with getting a job. literally 3 months of doing leetcode helped me with getting a job more than a university degree at a good school

>for webdev do they ask typical leetcode questions? if they do maybe you just need to like sit down and do some of that
honestly once they did, the other one didn't have any sort of skills test, they just asked for some examples of work i did

>it is super gay, but i did that and it really helped me with getting a job. literally 3 months of doing leetcode helped me with getting a job more than a university degree at a good school
but i don't even get offers

>be labor grunt since 14
>got tired of it at age 23
>people tell me go to college. they said any degree will do and employers will drool over you
>get bullshit degree
>cant find any jobs anywhere. had 2 job interviews this week. 16 hours combined a week if im lucky

I hate those filthy liars that told me my life would be easy after college. I'm $30,000 in debt now and places that I worked at before college wont even look at me.

I mean I've only got a single offer, but it definitely helped

Honestly I don't know then man, I would just ask around for jobs. Also keep in mind that sometimes being likable matters as much (if not more) than being competent,

That was your mistake. If you liked or at least tolerated working hands-on, you would have been legitimate prime trade material, beyond the "muh trades" meme.

Lmao actual meme degree

No, I was fed incorrect information by family, friends, and the school. I can tolerate working hands on. It was the not knowing when I was getting off and not having any free time.

I can tell you're really talking out of your ass and have never had a callused hand before. If you're trying to build yourself up, take it elsewhere.

you give shit advice

Well fuck its a pretty broad field to get a degree in isnt it? Cant i just go for a job that isnt staring at a computer 12 hours a day? I have family in the timber business and theyre outside or atleast driving for 80% of the time theyre on the job

Finishing up my degree in chemistry next month then doing a PhD, not meme tier but apparently going into tech is better than sciences these days. Working in industry is just you getting laid off every few years and academia is a lot of work I hear. I guess I can make good money if I make good connections.

Someone's mad. Look, you said you tired or pure labor at 23, that's 5-6 more years of experience and maturity than the typical wide-eyed freshman has going for them, and you fucked up all the same.

Maybe you should have played to your strengths (trades) instead of bs-ing your way to pleasing people who shouldn't have too much power in your life at your age.

Not mad. Just don't have time for retards who try to boost themselves up on r9k. You've done nothing with your life so you come here and take your inner aggression out on people. It's ok man. Let me know when you ever work a long shift or do labor in your life and you can come back to me for this conversation.

Most positions are often a rendition of this
>Go collect samples
>Bring samples back
>Process samples
Then, depending on how your organization or company works and your pay grade
>Interpret results
>Scribble up report
>Turn in report
>Rinse and repeat
It's also rather a pain in the ass to get a job with a bachelors unless it's something rather obscure. You can get on well enough with a masters but higher degrees in the environmental sciences is rather common.

The issue is that in order to save money you're often required to do a lot of the work that used to be split between different people 10-20 years ago (Especially if you go academic) and most the processing, interpretations, and report writing are done on a computer. No matter what, you'll spend a lot of time inside but get a break from it once in a while to go out for samples for a few days. Academics get more of these breaks but spend more time on the computer than running samples and cleaning.

The lab I worked in was a mercury ecotoxicology lab. I was all but offered a masters position in the lab but I cannot stomach academia anymore after all the horse shit I had to put up with an watch my lab mentor and the advising tenured research professor put up with.

Pout more, it's not going to wipe away your 30k debt. I was admittedly condescending, but I honestly thought I was saying useful stuff.

currently working on associates in graphic design but i have so many internships, school jobs, high GPA's and a resume and portfolio that it seems so unlikely that i wont get a job.

be careful man, depending on what lab you get in to you could be in for smooth sailing or a whole fuckload of walking on eggshells and drama, which for people like us on Jow Forums is so difficult to deal with because it's all about interpreting signals from people, except it's from high ranking professors instead of girls like in dating

I'm in that situation now as an undergrad but I try to ignore it (though it's impossible) and move past it and focus on the fact that despite that, I've learned a whole lot and am probably gonna get published a few tikes before graduating

The only business degree at the graduate level worth a shit (without a double major) is Accounting. Finance/Economics + Applied Math is good but that only gets you to graduate school. Plus they still expect you to take some programming courses.

If I could recommend anything for Uni it would be either Statistics (Actuarial if possible) + Computer Science. Focus on cryptography or software engineering

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oh yeah and I recommend Accounting + Business Info Systems.

Also if you know a hard language down the line (Chinese, Arabic, Japanese) it really helps advance you

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>Computer science
Not really anymore. Most Comp Sci tier work is either given to Pajeets or you are a short term contractor forever.

>being likable matters as much (if not more) than being competent
No, he doesn't. You're just an annoying cunt.

No degree is safe without a double or dual major that compliments it nowadays.

Computer Science + Actuarial Statistics
Business Info Systems + Accounting
Finance + Applied Math

If you want to go into the social sciences at the graduate level you need to at least minor in math, statistics, or cs

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What do you think would be better than Computer Science?

Over the last 10 years the need for Computer Scientists has massively increased as technology becomes more ingrained in our society with more companies using more computers everywhere, and unless there's a hip new thing to replace "Technology"
like TV did radio, the need for computer science grads will keep increasing. Also in the top 5 average salaries for graduates in the UK.

Incorrect, university students as they are currently already don't learn enough in 3 years, when you do a dual major or double and end actually doing half the time for the job you want it makes you significantly less employable UNLESS its for that specific position. ie Comp Sci + act stats, 95 places out of 100 would prefer just comp sci but those 5 places that like a lil bitty of stats will prob prefer you but all round stupid choice to make unless you have a big interest in stats.

>What do you think would be better than Computer Science?
Any salaried position with even remotely mediocre benefits.

Anything dealing in programming or software is going to be a series of 2 year long contracts which are not guaranteed to pay any better than the previous. If you;re in the US since you're a contractor you have to pay your way for everything such as insurance, IDE's, computer, etc. She's had friends start out making $70,000 per year but are forced to live in a city in which that is barely middle class only to not get a continuance of the contract and end up halfway across the country making $50,000 per year since said friend was given little notice that they weren't going to continue. The general, long term, pay grade is an increase but in the short term it will be variable.

This is also a specifically United States issue but many calls for more CS students are pure malarkey. They're simply trying to flood the field so they can afford to pay less and many are not hiring local talent and instead holding out long enough for an H1-B willing to do the same work for half the pay. I know A LOT of CS students who are left out to dry because of this, even the ones who did side projects (Often they were told the side projects weren't big enough). Most these businesses aside from some of the highest levels don't care about the quality of their work and simply look at it as "If I can get the thing to work at the lowest cost I'll do it then charge them to fix it later."

So, I'd recommend something like accounting, information systems, or getting an MBA.

Students need to stay in school for at least five years. You need the extra time for a prolonged internship to gain experience when you go to apply. Becoming more well-rounded is also a necessity nowadays. At couple years ago the advice was that you just needed a CS degree to succeed. But because of the nature of the computing business and its international outreach, it takes a little extra for an employer to notice you from the pack, especially if you are just entering school NOW.

I also recommend double/dual majors for Physical and Computer sciences because they're much better than Masters degrees or even PhD's outside of Physics or Math

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I originally majored in accounting because its pretty lucrative but I found it too hard to remember all the rules so I switched to marketing

It was an extremely easy program but I couldn't find anything because I had no experience and couldn't find an internship

I feel like if I'm going to be paying the university thousands of dollars for a degree they should be required to find me a suitable internship but apparently nobody has thought to lobby for this

Wgat courses did u take

History here

can't even enjoy history here because of Jow Forums

"Students need to stay in school for at least 5 years"

uh uh, not for comp sci, I'm a 2nd year and at the Uni of Leeds they offer us a year internship for your 3rd year and then you finish off uni in your 4th, however our lead tutor told us about how theyre constantly being bombarded with recruitment requests for their current graduates and are running with a 97% employment rate in the first 6 months. He says that we can take the 3rd year out and intern getting _20,000 for the year or we can just do the degree then start working and get _35,000 for the year and keep increasing from there.

Maybe it's just a UK thing though, or maybe its specifically because Leeds has a large tech industry. But official UCAS statistics (UKs exam board everything done by the book) the graduate employment rate in the first 6 months for computer science is ridiculously high.

unistats.ac.uk/subjects/employment/10007795FT-G400/ReturnTo/Search

Huh I just looked it up, for the uni of leeds the graduate employment after 6 months is literally 100%, so I've got nothing to worry about at all lol.

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Like I mentioned, you need something that would get you recognized from the dozens of faces applying for the same position at a job. It seems the Uni of Leeds is traditionally a well recognized and targeted school by employers. The same can't be said for every public or private Uni here in America. That's one of the issues. If you were a good student, got into and graduated from a top Uni then you at least have the benefit of name recognition than the mediocre student who gets into the best he can and needs to gamble on a education strategy that will pay off his debt. Many people are in his position and they are competing to get the best they can.

Another issue is Computer Science is a rapidly changing field and the safety of steady employment and a liveable wage are being divided between the hardcore (software engineers, it security/cryptographers) and the mediocre (database administrators, web designers, financial analyst). If your skills aren't diversified then the next twenty years will be hard to adapt to. Don't even get started on the effect that AI will have on CS-related jobs.

To feel secure in a job in Computing, it's unfortunately a requirement to have good knowledge of business and heavy math skills beyond three classes of Calculus.

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I'm about to get an Educational Studies degree. What am I in for as a male in a predominately female degree field, job wise?

quality fucking anime tiddies, i don't even care anymore that i wasted years to get a compsci degree and i'm still a neet

Who /English/ here?

Educational Studies but focusing on English so I can teach TESOL. What do you plan on doing?

>political science and geography
>worked in regional planning doing grunt work surveying for 3yrs of college
>still won't make up for my shitty choices
Had no idea what I wanted to do and was too much of a pussy to tell my mom I didn't want to go to school yet and just filled out scholarships like she wanted. Ended up getting a tuition waiver so I just fucked around for 4yrs for free and got my meme degrees so not too much is lost I guess. I just don't know how to get a job now

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Use the meme degree to push yourself to achieve even more than normies via compensation.

I can't imagine being a doctorcuck, literally living in a hospital for 30-40 years, or being a programmer stuck at home or a lawyer defending roasties or thugs for a living. It's so constraining.

With a meme degree you have that existential push to do more, otherwise you're fucked. And you can be flexible. You don't have to work the same job with the same fags for the rest of your life. You can work something you enjoy until you get capital, and then start investing it.

>You can work something you enjoy
LOL! funny joke

if there's actually work you can enjoy doing, while still getting paid, you really need to check your privilege

You can bartend. People literally love you for doing your job and you're getting paid + tipped to poison them.

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>You can bartend
i would be miserable doing that

>People literally love you for doing your job
don't you have to be outgoing or talkative for that? i am not good at that. also i really hate alcohol, it makes me want to argue with people too much

plus the only bartenders i've ever seen are hot girls or the dudes that own the bar

I'm in my last semester of an Actuarial degree, it's rough.
I just hope this thing is worth it.

The "have to be extroverted to bartend" meme is a meme. Especially if you work at a high turnout bar, you won't have conversations longer than a few seconds. You simply won't have time for that.

Have you tried to get to know your bartender at such place? They are cold as fuck, superficial, keeping up a friendly facade but they're never there for you. They're there for your money. There's different types of bars, like ones that attract repeat customers. I avoid those. There's too much drama and you have to have actual people skills to work there. High turnover like a club or beach bar is SO much better. Especially clubs, the normies here order full bottles or shots, they don't even bother with ordering fancy cocktails. EZ money.

I got tipped so much, because I stood out from my colleagues. They treated people like a nuisance. I accepted the nuisance and didn't get bothered. They were there to bring me ez money. I'd tell them why I built their drink the way I did and they'd feel appreciated and special. It's weird. You can't really talk about anything else because you get distracted. But you can talk about the process of building the drink, it helps you stay focused. And it sucks them in.

it just seems like something i wouldn't want to do, and if i ever got interviewed i probably wouldn't get hired. i'm a very "not emotional" person. people say "you always look serious" -- something like this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduced_affect_display

i just wouldn't enjoy being around people all the time like that.

>Have you tried to get to know your bartender at such place?
i've been to a few bars, but i never saw much of a point. i don't like alcohol or going out like that. and they were virtually all hot girls. but i was in a college town so there was a lot of those. never been to a bar outside of one of those

Not him but I have a fancy face and if I bartended I would have to get hit on by drunk girls all the time. It sucks because you can't fuck until the shift ends and by then the girl has lost interest.

>That feel when got shit grades throughout highschool
>Got into a shit university
>Only degree which seemed alright which I could get into with my shit score was a Construction Project Management degree
>Basically talk about bricks and shit for 4 years
>Everyone was a fucking retard just like me
>Half the class was retards from highschool like me who were too stupid to do anything else
>The other half were old retards who can't use the tools no more cuz they back hurt
>Somehow pass the whole degree
>The degree was an honours degree yet I did so shit I can't even use 'honours"
>Don't know fucking shit except to not let people die on site, use a hivis shirt, steel capped boots and a hard hat
>Somehow get an entry level job with a shit tier company
>Holy fucking construction pays shitloads for doing fuck all
>Get $65,000 starting when all my friends who studied engineering or something difficult, who got good grades can barely manage $40k starting
>Spend the next 3 years basically doing fuck all on site except making sure to accept deliveries and making sure contractors done die
>Now I am a jr Construction manager in the company making $100,000
>I still basically do whatever the construction manager tells me to do and just make sure nobody does something stupid
>I never need to think for myself because the person above me always tells me what to do
>Today is Friday and I just spent all day talking shit with the QT Asian girl who holds the sign outside the entry to the construction site. Only really worked for the first hour of the day.

Holy shit I swear this degree is an unknown goldmine which nobody ever talks or posts about.

Downside is 6am starting 5pm finishing I suppose.

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>Downside is 6am starting
well fuck, that's terrible. really a dealbreaker for me

t. genetic night owl

>talked about bricks and shit for 4 years
Lmao solid greentext

get a web dev job you madman
or freelance

why are you pursuing a career you obviously don't care about when you have experience doing something very skilled and in demand?

You shit I am joking do you faggot?

One course was about construction technology aka.

>Construction Tech 1: Whats the difference between a brick and a block?
>First hour the teacher would go through 30 slides of how bricks are made and then how blocks are made
>Different ways to stack them and then how to count them to estimate the quantity on a wall
>Then spend the next 2 hours in a tutorial holding a brick
>Then holding a block
>"Can someone tell me the difference?"

Basically imagine the retards from school who were too beta AND retarded to just get a trade. That was the whole class. Brainlet betas.

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>get a web dev job you madman
been applying for 9 months and haven't gotten one

>why are you pursuing a career you obviously don't care about when you have experience doing something very skilled and in demand?
yeah it's not very "in demand" apparently. i think it's an oversaturated market, or something

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did you do well enough to have a chance at going to law school?
try studying for the LSAT and see if you can make it

Not all the roles need to start that early m8.

Some of the office roles start at 8am and finish at 4-5pm but they need SLIGHTLY more IQ then the site guys. They pay slightly less too for some reason.

Try estimating or quantity surveying. Basically just counting things from the plans and talking to contractors to beg them to price for you.

Safety managers are also pretty easy but shit loads of paperwork. Any half decent company will have hundreds of files which you copy and paste to make your safety sheets for every job on site. Make sure the retard contractors read it, sign it then you just watch um a bit then go prepare for the next load of paperwork for the safety required. Sorta like baby sitting except with a lot of big shit to squash retards or tall things for people to fall from.

You basically tell us how to do something safe and I watch them anyways for ya. But you just get them from your companies database or the contractors write their own safety sheets for you lmao. I I didn't go into a construction management position I'd pick the OH&S management. Piss easy job for only slight retards.

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i'm not a retard when it comes to math, science and stuff like that. i used ot do programming

i'm a retard when it comes to talking to people. if someone tells me their name i forget it in a second. i have to read it to even remember it

now, i'll remember some random historical fact i read one time months ago, if i'm having an argument online or something

Well come to Australia then because on site I don't fucking know anyones name.All I do is yell "mate" to everyone

>Hey mate how ya going today
>Oi mate get your crew over here now
>Morning mate what can I do for ya?
>YOU FUCKING WHAT MATE? GET DOWN FROM THERE NOW.
>Haha, yeah mate no problem.

You'd think this is an exaggeration but it's pretty much spot on. I only know perhaps 2 persons names on site at MOST on a given day of 200 people or so. Yet I need to speak to at least 50, all called mate.

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brick class sounds fun where do i sign up

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>Then spend the next 2 hours in a tutorial holding a brick
>Then holding a block
>"Can someone tell me the difference?"

This.. this is exactly the kind of brainlet education I need.
Simple.
Not complicated.
Brainlet shit.
This is A and this is B
One is heavy one is not heavy
This is big and this is small
This pointy this not so pointy

Where can I sign up for this?

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>tfw bachelor in physics
Shit degree, do not recommend if you're thinking of getting into academic world

I'm in my last semester of Electrical Engineering and I still have no idea what the FUCK I am studying.

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