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>first cycle
>for the first time in my life not a low test faggot
>feel like a god
I wish I did this years earlier.
I wasted all those years natty lifting without any progress.

really noticing how many guys are on the gear nowadays

pandora's box opened

Instagram made it normal.

i know right, a lot of absolute geeks are now fucking ripped. it's like you know genetically these tools are far beneath you, but you end up looking inferior to the eyes of a girl who doesnt understand human physiology and steroids

meanwhile, people keep pointing out society imposes impossible beauty standards on females, leading them to sometimes fast and diet for a while

Implying gear is a net positive. They all will get suicidal tier when they come off gear. Meanwhile somebody who put in a decade of natty lifting will make it.

>eyes of a girl
Kys you geek

gear is a positive while you are on it and are still healthy (you cant have both for a long time), sure they will hit the wall sooner or later but that's not going to change that very moment in time where he is mogging me. once he's out of the picture no one will come to me and say "oh when he mogged you before he burned out, you were really winning, now in hindsight i can say you were making it!". how about you get real, natty lifting doesnt mean shift, a decade wont get you more than 2 years. actually you are kind of irritating me with that decade of natty makebelief bullshit, how about you kill yourself you insuffrable cunt

Just 500 test e / week, right user?

baby's first step towards hypogonadism

How fast do you lose your gains when your off gear? If you still lift does it vanish quicker then someone who’s natty?

it's honestly sad how insecure all you roiders are lol

within a year you lose everything and return to your natural state, perhaps marginally stronger if you keep training

400mg a week

"making it" is having kids, and doesn't matter how much you "mog" someone in the moment when they go on to have 6 children and a genetic lineage, and you go onto the latter part of your life single, infertile, and out of shape

>"making it" is having kids
i've never seen someone set the bar that low.

Why do we never talk sources?

having kids and raising them as a good father, obviously
judging by your response, not something you've ever experienced

It's not allowed.
Use discord.

Yikes Pol fags

On my first cycle of 500mg test e. 2.5 weeks in. Noticed no change except water weight, acne and slight strength increase.
Still feel like shit most of the day and just generally tired.
When the week 5 'muscle building' phase kicks in, am i gonna be feeling more energetic and motivated too?

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Hahahahaha fucking gearhead rage is real

actually i am married and have a child already. if i didnt care about fertility i would never come off and not make the meme op picture in the first place. i just think it's cringe worthy the way you say "having kids is making it". that's like saying taking a dump is making it. having a meal is making it. this is one of the most basic things people have been doing for centuries, literally illiterate paupers are doing this as we speak. you should raise the bar, son.

say that to my future grandson
oh wait

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Keep pumping them out you fucking queer, and make sure you raise them right. Don't get so caught up in retarded shit.

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ive been on e2 for a few weeks now and only take a bit of var and 20mg testosterone.

I could do like 18-24 sets easy at home, now I do 3 sets of dumbbell curls and my arms are like jelly, I can still do a bit of OHPs and some tricep exercises but soon enough I literally cant even lift these easy ass weights.

what in the fuck

50% instagram 50% tinder 2bh

and on tattoos. i blame people watching pewdiepie for that one.

I'm just saying it take a LOT more than having children to MAKE IT. We can all understand that making it is a relative concept, but by no logical definition could it be doing something that the most useless underachiever could pull off like having children. Raising children is not hard if you pick the right wife, have enough money and are good at people management

Well that doesn’t seem really worth it.

>first cycle
>more than old timers did at peak
times change...

well it isn't to a logical sane person without deep issues

well he's right you know

So let’s say you have two people, one natty and one on roids, who’s both been lifting for two years. Then the dude gets off roids and both still lift. At year three the natty person would be significantly bigger?

Based and redpilled.

Anyone predisposed to balding been successful with test + fin?

Not at all. The roider would be far better. He's had permanent changes to his muscles.

Also you don't lose all gains going off. With a good routine you should be able to keep most.

What was your guys first Test cycle like?

Are you serious? I doubt guys like Arnold or Frank Zane did less than only 400mg of test-e a week.

They didn't.

It's not all that common to see dudes who use roids and look like they use roids.

Most guys that use roids still look pretty dyel. Just take a look at the source review forums.

>Most guys that use roids still look pretty dyel.

That's only because your sense of what's dyel is messed up from years of seeing Hollywood actors, athletes and other aesthetic ideals who "don't look that big" that were roiding.

The reality is that the ceiling for how good you can look Natty is pretty low. This is the eighth great realization.

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Nah, that's not where it's from.

Seeing that test-e has been studied clinically at 600mg/week I'd have to believe that dose wasn't pulled out of nowhere.

Arnold went back years after Pumping Iron came out and spent over a million dollars acquiring the rights to over 90 hours of broll footage shot in the making of, including the right to destroy it. Who knows what shit they recorded him doing

I did my very first injection last night, everything went smoothly. I chose my quad as the first site. There was no pain during the injection, but today I feel like there is a knot in my muscle. I feel it every time I take a step, it is mildy painful. I was planning on doing squats today but don't think I can. It was a 3ml injection. Is this normal?

You'll be fine. It's just virgin PIP. Do your squats anyways, if it feels too bad just lower the weight.

Should I take RAD-140? Where is it the cheapest in aus? Sarms4u is expensive as fuck

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If you start at 18 you'd waste that decade. Besides you could die from other shit that's not roids while roiding.

Just pin you faggot.

nah I'm already norwood 2 and I don't want T shutdown and shrivelled up balls

ITT: Infertile idiots with heart problems and tiny testicles!

Top fucking lel!

Serves you right.
>muh genetics make me superior
You did nothing to earn or deserve them. Meanwhile former nerds gangbang your crush because they're smart enough to use all the tools at their disposal and aren't scared to take medicine

Fucking strawmanning nattys...
If you keep eating right and training you will just drop to your genetic max (which is still more than 99% of nattys will achieve). Steroids don't create different muscle than natty lifting does. It's all the same shit. Your body just builds muscle faster on gear. It's actually muscle

guys... i-is Cap natty?

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no

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hm I don’t. even most guys who use roids look natty

shut up testicle. nobody likes you

What do you guys use to dry out? my E3 is well in range and i'm still puffy and have water bloat..

Thank you, I was worried something was wrong. Does it matter what time of the day you pin? I am planning on doing it in the morning before work.

>Actually replying to a low standard subhuman
Quit getting baited, old man.

3ml is a lot for a first cycle

It is 150mg/ml. So, 450mg e3d.

>natty feels edition
>IMPLYING NATTYS ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD BE FEELING

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I'm on week 5 of TRT. Feeling much better since mid week 4. I now have mind muscle connection of most of my muscles, fixing my posture etc. Actually feel like a human male for once. 500mg is a lot of gear for your first cycle btw. 200-250mg would be more than sufficient to put you at abnormal test levels. I'm on 140mg a week, which I will probably drop to the low 100's soon.

I pin some things at night and some in the AM just due to scheduling. IMO, it doesn't matter when you pin just make sure to pin the same compound in the same time period to keep stable bloods.

I'm totally desperate, all my life I've been a low-test faggot with tons of anxiety and low self-esteem. To give you an idea: at my peak level of sexual drive during my teens years, I masturbated at most once a week, I recently learned that most of my friends jerked off 5, 6, even 7 times a day. I NEVER fapped twice a day.

I don't give a shit anymore, I want to kill myself, I'm afraid of everything and I'm not accomplishing anything in life. Where do I start?

500mg testE per week for 16 weeks. Retard OP doesn't include the wiki link.

reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/

thanks brah

>"making it" is having kids,
Who you have a 50/50 shot of losing in a divorce and will be trained to feel resentment towards you by the women you used to love.
I'd rather die from heat exhaustion in a sauna in my prime.

that's 1050mg/ week for your first cycle..

Yeah pretty much

You say that like fasting is bad

>Hollywood
>Actor
>Gets paid for being jacked
>Being superhuman is literally defining component of role

Uhm no sweetie

You're fat then

I'm assuming you're getting at least 3-5L of water a day

lmao bruh you will lose all the glycogen if you come off. you WILL look flat as fuck natty, and wont even be close to the natty limit

Nope. And some of that is CGI.

Yes, it's normal. Just massage the area.

>install tinder because tired of rat life doing nothing but job, lifting and college
>grill without profile pic talks to me
>invites me to go out
should I risk my life tonight bros?

It's me. Don't tell anyone where youre going.

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lmao. what chad. You can split the 3ml into two injection sites if you want, may reduce pip. But for some injecting a lot of MLs doesn't bother them.

are you a girl (male)?

taking steroids to increase masturbation frequency is a new one for me

You're an idiot.

at least a third of the men in my gym are on gear.
and two women...

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fuck bros
>finished pct
>hooked up with tinder date yesterday
>dick is not working anymore
>thot laughing at me and gtfo in the middle of the night

now what? is my dick fucked forever? is cialis and viagra my new best friend?

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Girls too. Varbies are plenty. Seemingly unsuspecting fem0ids in my feed all of a sudden have this amazing 6 week transformation from flat body to hard body with sculpted shoulders and monster thighs

Anyone have experience injecting with hemophilia? I have borderline hemophilia and pretty thin skin, so ive stuck to orals so far.

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I'll try that. Would it make sense to slightly withdraw the needle a few millimeters as I am injecting to spread the oil out somewhat, or is it best to leave the needle stationary. I have 1" needles.

Why would I PCT a 400mg test/wk first cycle when I see people cruising on 500mg ITT

Asked this in last thread but 404'd before I could see answers

Im going on a week long trip that requires discretion. Half way through Ill need to pin (Test E). Would it be alright to prep and syringe, leave the drawing needle on with the cap on the needle, take the pinning needle, swap it and pin? Or would the fact that the test is sitting in a syringe with an open needle on it fuck the sterility?

It's probably just some buff dude who wants to rape you. Most people here would pay for such a chance.

>t.

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Is 12.5mg of AI EOD normal for just a Test E 500mg cycle?

I dose MW with 250mg injections and take 12.5mg of AI right after. I also take a 6.5mg dose on Friday to bridge the extra half day between injections. But this morning (Saturday) I started getting choked up over a stupid fucking country song. Should I up the Friday dosage to 12.5mg? Don't have money for bloods but tearing up over a fucking country song and crying while watching Queer Eye on netflix seems like a good indicator of high E2. AI dosing EOD is fuckin expensive tho.

What kind of retard are you? The steroid guy would still be bigger than the natty dweep, tho not even near the size and hardness he was when on steroids

lol at keeping most... yeah, good luck with that buddy

Do you need pct for rad140? I read that suppression doesn’t last long enough for a serm and taking them could potentially cause more problems than solve.

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>If you keep eating right and training you will just drop to your genetic max
that's what i said you fucking RETARD!!!!